I can't wait to watch this even though I lived through it. Thanks for editing everything up so nicely, Jordan!
@evkx3 ай бұрын
Great editing. Closing up to Top Gear :-)
@eggy17113 ай бұрын
was this a Rivian R1S GEN1 ??? will you be evaluating or getting a R1S GEN2 with the newer hardware.
@BillB335253 ай бұрын
The race to Florida had issues finding the end point as well. A better discussion of finding the end point sould be discussed on future races.
@ervin98053 ай бұрын
just finished watching the entire thing in one sitting! I love your content man. you have such great camera presence. my hero ngl
@onthetrench41783 ай бұрын
I feel like Kyle is betting on R1T Gen3 with 800V tech.
@SpottedSharks3 ай бұрын
Loved it! My only critique is that this was, at the beginning, billed as a test of family road-trippers. There is no universe in which you can take a family road-tripping in those temperatures and turn off the AC. There would be a mutiny. A race rule should be that you have to maintain a comfortable climate at all times. For hilarity you should also hire some screaming kids in the back seat.
@CaliJerS153 ай бұрын
Spot on! Plus the random kid mess stop/ bathroom break.
@SiuLeung3 ай бұрын
ya, i was thinking they need to add weight to simulate 6-7 people total in the car. That would be more realistic of a 3 row family SUV road trip. Some of those SUVs didn't even have a 3rd row...
@SpottedSharks3 ай бұрын
Update: Kyle said at the end of today's vid that the return trip would be as "normal" people would do it.
@martinekstrom63033 ай бұрын
Or Kyle bribing people to give up their charger..
@clasqm3 ай бұрын
You can just program the audio system to say "Are we there yet?" at random intervals.
@gravitas513 ай бұрын
“It’s 109 outside, it’s got to be 130 inside and 150 if you’re wearing a hoodie!”
@Charlesbjtown3 ай бұрын
I've noticed more and more people doing this, usually really young guys like Kyle. Just the other day, it was around 95 degrees, and I seen a guy walking around with a thick hoodie on..... with the hood UP.
@markfitzpatrick66923 ай бұрын
@@Charlesbjtown crazy people
@gordongurley39823 ай бұрын
"It's so hot" says the guy wearing a hoodie.
@anton_grahn3 ай бұрын
Kyle in a super hot car: "hoodie stays on ok"
@markfitzpatrick66923 ай бұрын
I know he loves sweatshirts but I would have had a t shirt in 95 to 100 weather.
@williamerazo39213 ай бұрын
@@markfitzpatrick6692heat strokes are a thing
@evkx3 ай бұрын
Can somebody explain why I never have time to watch a movie anymore. But watching 4 hours with EV Suv racing is fine? Asking for my girlfirend.
@clasqm3 ай бұрын
"Give a man an EV racing video and he won't have time to go out drinking with his buddies".
@AlexBerman13 ай бұрын
Same!
@PierreSimonsson2 ай бұрын
dont forget you watch loooong livestreams from some guy in Norway also :D
@mkrisch19862 ай бұрын
Sadly i love YT videos involving EV’s, True Crime and Financial topics than regular TV. Lol
@jrr8513 ай бұрын
Its 5:45AM on Sunday in New Zealand. My son woke me up. Seeing this in my queue made me smile. So excited.
@LarsDennert3 ай бұрын
To have 1 2 and 3 4 shows up essentially at the same times is amazing. Having them all arrive within an hour over a 12 hour trip is really good. It's basically the same experience.
@brandenflasch3 ай бұрын
“It’s 116F and we have the AC off” …. As Kyle is wearing a hoodie 😅😅
@CaliJerS153 ай бұрын
Next time a real race with required temperatures for air conditioning. Let’s see what real people will experience.
@lm13143 ай бұрын
Plus, we have to go at least the speed limit. It's annoying to come up on someone going below speed limit.
@tazeat3 ай бұрын
@@CaliJerS15 No! It's a race! A race should be treated as a race, that's what makes these fun, wring them out to their limits so we can see the potential not some boring over charge and stop cruises.
@martinekstrom63032 ай бұрын
The Tesla actually has the AC on all the time, didn’t coast behind trucks, bribe or talk people out of a faster charger or went to limp mode. They pretty much did a road trip as “normal people” would.
@martinekstrom63032 ай бұрын
@@tazeatBoth. There is of course entertainment value. The Tesla actually has the AC on all the time, didn’t coast behind trucks, bribe or talk people out of a faster charger or went to limp mode. They pretty much did a road trip as “normal people” would.
@ArtiePenguin12 ай бұрын
Exactly this! Maybe also require them to arrive with at least 5 or 10%, otherwise they suffer a time penalty. No one does a real road trip in an EV and shuts off climate to conserve every bit of energy. Most people also don't try to target a 0 or 5% arrival.
@user-rl6px5ob3d3 ай бұрын
The young cats clowning Kyle when they were coming up on Vegas was hilarious 😂
@markfitzpatrick66923 ай бұрын
@@user-rl6px5ob3d yes it was great to have Lacey along
@scottstowell73 ай бұрын
Ryan and Lacey were cracking me up 😂
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
Well done to the Rivian team! I’ll be the first to admit Dom and I screwed up our EV9 performance and missed the chance to get 3rd. This was my only race to Vegas and I learned a lot about optimizing EV road tripping!
@skyemalcolm3 ай бұрын
How come you guys didn’t use all the tricks and use ABRP Premium? You mentioned using a BT LE OBD-II dongle so with that you could have had live SOC to a phone running an actual usable route planner. Now granted the EV9 profile is only at an Alpha level, but surely it would have added a second opinion to the built in trip planner.
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
@@skyemalcolmWould have been nice. Don’t have Premium and had issues setting up my account through iTunes/Apple. It served Ryan and Lacey very well!
@ayushmalpeddi27933 ай бұрын
Realistically that wouldn't have helped them much. They messed up a bit by not overcharging which is their biggest downfall. If they had just spent an extra 3-4min charging they likely could have saved at least 5min on the road easily earning them 3rd place.@@skyemalcolm
@fleecystheking3 ай бұрын
Did I hear you guys were using i-Pedal on the highway for a while? Why? Coasting is your friend on the highway. I-Pedal is for local city driving.
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
@@fleecystheking we mostly lived on HDA and adaptive cruise
@famousamos13 ай бұрын
I would say the Tesla MX won by more than just 10 minutes!! It won by speed, comfort, no stress of range anxiety, and easy charging!!
@zeedustrakok3 ай бұрын
That’s not how you travel. 15 to 20 minutes stops? I do actually when driving with other people do stops for 40 minutes since they want a bite to eat and make a toilet stop?
@Dangerspeed8623 ай бұрын
@@zeedustrakok it really depends on where your road tripping to…there could be more super chargers or less if really depends but I get with people it can be different!
@martinekstrom63032 ай бұрын
@@zeedustrakokI do 8-10 minutes toilet and piss pauses mostly and they are really effective charging. There should be more 50kW chargers for 40-50 minute food stops so you don’t occupy superchargers overcharging. That would really make sense.
@getoveritlive3 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Ryan & Lacey to tell Kyle & Drew that they might roll the windows down because it was so cold in the Tesla. And clearly the Model X won because they didn't need to drive 35 MPH, sit in over 100°, and didn't have to worry about a "charging curve." Great time like always, thanks.
@isserdigan28353 ай бұрын
People forget that the MX spotted the rest of them like 15 mins at the beginning.
@Al-Misanthropic-Bundy3 ай бұрын
Yeah, remember the train delay
@TheReal_JG3 ай бұрын
Love these 'races' and all the tips and insight that come with it! Please do something similar to the inexpensive options (any vehicles under $40k).
@AK2CO3 ай бұрын
That would be fun!
@markfitzpatrick66923 ай бұрын
@@AK2COa non Tesla race would be fun.
@badbasic3 ай бұрын
40k would be smashed by a RWD M3, nothing even close to it at that price...
@Dangerspeed8623 ай бұрын
@@markfitzpatrick6692 they would have to do it on the other channel because “Out of Spec Motoring” is dedicated to only EVs
@UtagU_abАй бұрын
there is no EV under 40k that can beat Tesla pound per pound. Anyone saying that is just bias and gaslighting themselves. Maybe when BYD makes it here Tesla will finally get some competition but currently every legacy auto’s EV is a complete joke compared to a Tesla.
@jamesk973 ай бұрын
Max permissible speed 85, here's team Rivian doing 90.
@patrickphalen17153 ай бұрын
"How do you help these people?" You keep creating great content like this. Four years into EV ownership I still struggle with range anxiety. Your videos of the race to Vegas will be extremely helpful for future road trips. Thank you so much for posting.
@nycplayboy783 ай бұрын
Kyle and the rest of the Out of Spec Gang are such EV enthusiasts I LOVE IT!!! Thank you Kyle & Crew for a great video I wished the Lyriq was included I do understand that it was a 3 row EUV test :)
@Ed209423 ай бұрын
Maybe they’ll do a race with the Cadillac Vistiq when it comes out. Or the Escalade IQ. But the IQ is so much heavier the efficiency will take a hit and it will need full power charging to get through, but it does have massive range.
@davidnielson91393 ай бұрын
I think there should be rules added for having to use climate and keep it at a realistic temperature. This is doubly true for road tripping a family SUV. If you are going to do legs where mostly no A/C is being used on some legs it shouldn't be a road trip but called something like a Cannonball race.
@jrr8513 ай бұрын
When I hear people talking about buffers in EGMP vehicles, i immediately think about Dave and the Ice Machine.
@AlexBerman13 ай бұрын
Damn what'd I miss?
@Badgerpat833 ай бұрын
I have always loved the OOS road trip vids. The race videos are an incredible update from the old road trip videos. Keep them coming, guys! Kyle, you must do a race video with your mom and dad in one of the cars. That...would be fun!
@RyderNight993 ай бұрын
Wow what a great race! Love these series. The ending was crazy, edge on your seat! Thanks Jordan for editing this movie
@martinekstrom63032 ай бұрын
Kyle’s summary at the end is freaking incredible. Doesn’t miss a beat and you totally get it. Amazing
@777Outrigger3 ай бұрын
The Kia lost because of a bad route planner, and the X won because of the best route planner. It's not only range or charging speed. ... ....Can't wait for the return race.
@yournumberonepal3 ай бұрын
I was shocked because the Kia charging ability is just so good.
@777Outrigger3 ай бұрын
@@yournumberonepal I kinda was too.
@ericgregori3 ай бұрын
And the X is close to the price of the top spec Kia.
@ArtiePenguin12 ай бұрын
The Kia EV9 lost because Max and Dom didn't seem to use good route planning and they relied too much on the car's nav and range estimate. Unfortunately that's probably the same thing that will happen on the return trip when they'll all be required to use each car's built-in route planning. They should have relied on ABRP more.
@777Outrigger2 ай бұрын
@@ArtiePenguin1 Most people will rely on the car's route planner. Most are not Out-of-Spec level EV road trippers. I know there are some very good non-Tesla EVs out there now, but I would only recommend a Tesla to the average Joe because of superior route planning, and reliable and easy-to-use charging.
@777Outrigger3 ай бұрын
Another luxury feature Mercedes has that no one talks about. Saunas!
@stevenichols46393 ай бұрын
By the way, Kyle, I know it’s your signature style, but I don’t think a hoodie with long sleeves and long pants is the appropriate attire for a trip through the desert at 100. Lol
@RayNLA3 ай бұрын
Ever seen people traversing through the desert? They have thier entire bodies covered. How about people working outside? Same thing!
@heidisalaka69383 ай бұрын
Exactly. Lacks common sense.
@adamcarlson49223 ай бұрын
@@RayNLAcovered in extremely lightweight and breathable linen, not thick material that doesn’t breathe.
@stevenichols46392 ай бұрын
@@RayNLA robes in hot climates are made of thin cloth and are lose fitting to allow air movement. I have a set I bought in Egypt. Very practical to have your body covered but not mostly in contact with the actual garment
@ClemsonNY133 ай бұрын
I would like to see the same teams run the race to Vegas again now that they know the quirks of their vehicles and learn from their mistakes. Would be really interesting to see how the results would change, if at all.
@newscoulomb37053 ай бұрын
15:01 I love how Lacey arrives and immediately reads the instructions that everyone else ignores while they are complaining about how bad EA is. 🤣
@RedvinezYGO3 ай бұрын
Those instruction have literally nothing to do with the complaints people have about EA being trash
@newscoulomb37053 ай бұрын
@@RedvinezYGO When a good percentage of failures are user error, I think it does matter. You can dismiss it if you want; I'm happy with my ~99% first-time activation success on EA.
@RedvinezYGO3 ай бұрын
@@newscoulomb3705 no one said user error wasn’t a factor but you are coping hard if you think that EA doesn’t have trash reliability, maybe it’s good in your area but we have tons of proof on this very channel of how dogshit it is
@newscoulomb37053 ай бұрын
@@RedvinezYGO Those are two different issues, but if you discount the fact that user error can amplify the number of issues people encounter, you're also coping hard to support your own biases. Yes, objectively, we know that EA's older hardware only has reliability issues with an 80% charger uptime (yes, that's bad); however, their newer hardware has close to a 97% charger uptime (much better). We also know that 9% of charging sessions fail on the first attempt, so user error might be a bigger factor in EA's perceived reliability than some people are willing to acknowledge. If you want to use Out of Spec as a reference, how do you explain that their EVs relying on Electrify America consistently beat or are at least competitive with EVs relying on the Tesla Supercharger network? Do you also hyperfocus on the number of issues Out of Spec runs into on the Superchargers? Either way, you seem to have really gotten away from my original point with my comment: Using the proper activation protocols will definitely improve your EA experience. That's it.
@blazure1013 ай бұрын
@@newscoulomb3705if we're talking anecdotes, as an EA user I've had bad charging sessions. Believe it or not, when using the Mobile App rather than plug-and-charge or tap-to-pay, you get different instructions. On EA's own website you see branching logic *at step 3* for either Swipe First or Plug In First. There isn't always exactly one way to do things. If you do it your way that's fine but that doesn't mean other ways of doing things are user error, especially if instructed that way by EA.
@dbarn53243 ай бұрын
These races are more entertaining then the Indianapolis 500 to me. Keep it up.
@Yelonek19863 ай бұрын
Exactly, it is like Formula 1 in slow motion. XD I love them.
@MountainManGuy3 ай бұрын
Congrats to the Model X and team for winning
@samatwesu3 ай бұрын
Hell of a race!
@Heartless_132243 ай бұрын
Just at 13 min now, with the EV9 in turtle mode. If the EV9 loses, it is because they didn't charge to 80% on the first stop.
@stockey3 ай бұрын
100% agree, for the price, the EV9 is unbeatable.
@boostav3 ай бұрын
@@stockey Only the poverty spec, above that and you're dangerously close to Model X money given the $7,500 tax credit.
@swimshadey3 ай бұрын
Love these videos, I think adding a mini progress bar on the bottom of the current places throughout the video would be amazing
@nicolaslab18143 ай бұрын
Part 2 let's goooooooooo
@gofortyninerss3 ай бұрын
Experience played a role in the order of finish. Can't wait for the return race.
@ehudk2153 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be allowed to turn off the AC, it isn't realistic, the X won comfortably
@mrneva3 ай бұрын
Exactly. No one drives with the AC off in a family road trip when it’s over 100F outside.
@ExperienceCN3 ай бұрын
Turning off ac doesn't have any really significant impact at highway speeds.
@KiRiTO729873 ай бұрын
Well TBF if they where actually road tripping and not racing your battery doesn't ever get that low that you'd turn off AC if you want a real normal EV Roadtrip id recommend the one Technology Connections did in his ioniq 5 with aging wheels or aging wheels polester2 vs Tesla road trip comparison
@ChamodUshan-db7qj2 ай бұрын
@@ExperienceCNit's ev impact on battery.
@gravitas513 ай бұрын
Those cheese tots in Green River looked tremendous!
@SirHackaL0t.3 ай бұрын
I never understand why the driver is holding the camera or using a phone when there’s a passenger who’s not involved in the actual driving who can hold the camera or the phone.
@Jhunt123032 ай бұрын
Living vicariously through everyone in this video. I’m nervous taking my e-tron on a road trip. Keep videos like this coming as it provides real world EV experiences.
@jrockerstein3 ай бұрын
I love these videos! Please keep them coming!
@alancapes56443 ай бұрын
I can't wait for Kyle driving vs Lacey supervising FSD race. THAT'S real world.
@sketchpro123 ай бұрын
Easy win for Tesla as a no compromise car, never compromised comfort or performance, which is what 99% of car owners want and expect.🤷♂️ limping in with no AC is a serious no go for most.
@ahbushnell13 ай бұрын
In the 30's my Grandparents would travel from New Mexico to Southern California. They crossed the desert at night.
@gregpalmer99492 ай бұрын
We did it in the 50s also
@Crazypostman3 ай бұрын
Man, they really did the EV-9, a disservice in this race 😂
@stockey3 ай бұрын
You need to know the car.
@Longsnowsm3 ай бұрын
Yeah, It was Max's first run to Vegas and he did not have enough time with the car. He was too eager to get off the charger and get on the road. He said they assumed that the Tesla charging method would work for the EV9, but they are totally different animals for sure. The Tesla's you keep them on the bottom of the pack and only charge until 50-60% and then move on to stay in the peak of the charge curve. The Hyundai/Kia's don't work that way. I thought they would pick up on that after the first crawl into a charger, but they did it twice. I think Kyle called it right when he listed how he assumed they would finish and said he thought the EV9 would be in second place. I think that is probably right.
@mattc68543 ай бұрын
so many fingerprints on that EQ screen(s) lol
@Crazypostman3 ай бұрын
These are so fun to watch!
@ulfw3 ай бұрын
This is what I come to KZbin for! More please! ❤
@steveallwine14433 ай бұрын
At 8:43, we see the Rivian doing **90mph*** on the freeway. The energy consumption and wind resistance at that speed must be atrocious. Odds are if these folks actually did the speed limit, they’d see a ton more range between charges.
@AK2CO3 ай бұрын
Sad that the Rivian got neutered on its first stop at the RAN charger. I know its charging curve isn’t the best, but I figured it would come in front of the EV9 but behind the MX. However knowing Kyle was in the EQS makes it the dark horse to win. That stretch to Salina bypassing green river is riskyyyyyy
@supergeek024683 ай бұрын
Laughing at Kyle ragging on the EQS the entire drive and right as they’re pulling into Vegas goes “I’ve really fallen in love with the EQS” 🤣 Loving the series! Really excited to see the route planning return trip. The behavior seemed radically different even on this run
@Yelonek19863 ай бұрын
Jordan and Andreas are going to sit for 2,5 hours on J1772. Better bring some snacks! XD
@ezpoppy553 ай бұрын
Very satisfying conclusion to The Race to Vegas! Looking forward to the return trip. Note: If I’m not mistaken, Kyle, you have advocated (correctly, I’d say) that manufacturers and consumers need to recognize the folly of ultra large battery pack. They add unnecessary expense to the vehicle, add unnecessary and unused weight the vehicle has to haul around every single day (and pay for that privilege as well), and rarely if ever come into any practical use for the vast majority of use cases. Full disclosure: I drive a ‘21 Model 3 SR+, the slowest charging, shortest range, smallest battery pack vehicle in Tesla’s line up. I have driven this car across the US, and all over creation along the West. My wife drives a ‘21 VW ID.4 PRO, with similar battery pack size. In other words, we walk the walk and talk the talk. These kinds of vehicles are the future of EVs - affordable, practical, and reliable. They may not have the bleeding edge tech and specs that those ginormous SUVs have - and their price and accessibility to the average family reflect that. Maybe some hero episodes heralding the benefits of these smaller battery packs would be forthcoming.
@Areku062 ай бұрын
That’s why I got a Tesla, I like to take trips. Build in trip planner on Tesla is awesome. Took many 800mi+ trips.
@Kyle-ei2lc2 ай бұрын
I’m reminded why I drive a Tesla every time I watch one of these. However, the Rivian with Jordan and Andreas would absolutely be the most fun car.
@alberts80753 ай бұрын
What happens when OOS simulates a family trip: Just eating fast food, breaks are only allowed when the car needs energy and gets a quick top up, therefore there is the constant risk of being stranded in the hot dessert without power which wouldn't have a difference from the heat perspective for the kids as the air con won' t be running by 43 C/111 F. And still it gives the best idea of how you should road trip and is serious consumer advice while entertainimg. Keep up the good work.
@mattl79673 ай бұрын
Kyle you need to revoke Max and Dom’s EV roadtripping cards
@marcusrose59433 ай бұрын
They are terrible 😂 and then they blame the charging
@mattl79673 ай бұрын
@@marcusrose5943never unplug when you are getting good charging. Rule #1
@markfitzpatrick66923 ай бұрын
@@marcusrose5943max always blames someone else
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
@@markfitzpatrick6692it was your fault
@BroncoPH3 ай бұрын
@@iMaxPatten😂😂😂
@mystisith39843 ай бұрын
Thanks for the data. Good battery software management + charging infrastructure are really more important than the theoretical range & people should be educated about that. The charging grid is improving super fast (number of stalls, high capacity & speed) so what we have here is the worst we'll ever have (& so much better than just 2 years ago). Prices of vehicles & energy are going down fast. EVs are the future AND the present already.
@Trashed2065913 күн бұрын
great comment on charging curve. On long trips where you know you will be stopping again to charge, don't disconnect before the charge rate nose-dives, even if you have more than enough to get to the next charger!
@CraigMatsuura3 ай бұрын
Love the way you edited and recapped this video. These are so fun and informative.
@adamchoi81363 ай бұрын
That was epic!! Everyone lived in the heat. Minus the model x team. 😂
@magnus9663 ай бұрын
I think keeping the EV9 in the 15%-80% range, even if another stop needed to be added would have made a world of difference of keeping those 210kw charging speeds
@tomm59363 ай бұрын
It’s better to come in low in an E-GMP car. Of course they came in too low. You get full speed charging from you plug in until the battery gets too hot and throttles. They should be able to run full speed and then come in as close to zero as possible. What you charge to depends on what charging options you have.
@MiniVegas420Yo3 ай бұрын
Why in the world would you suffer 110 in the car or driving on the shoulder instead of spending 15 more minutes at one charging stop to put you over the threshold?
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
Bad calculations on our part in the Kia EV9. We had no idea the headwinds would be so brutal for us. Lot of learning
@marksimpson39683 ай бұрын
Only Kyle can demonstrate the wisdom of wearing a long sleeve hoodie in 100+ degree heat. 😂
@HAJIMAY3 ай бұрын
I love these! Kyle talking about massage seats at 1:50:44 was hilarious
@pasilehto3 ай бұрын
Crazy to see trucks going 120km/h+ as ~87km/h is max in Europe.
@Nickkenf13 ай бұрын
Love the road trip/race videos… entertaining adventure and they provide useful real world info about the cars we drive. I am hopeful another cannonball is in the works… though I know a lot to plan.
@tomm59363 ай бұрын
Me too. I think Kyle hinted at it when talking about the new Taycan. If they can get the charging to work to work it should be one hell of a race.
@skyemalcolm3 ай бұрын
Watching it through for the second time. Love it!
@anton_grahn3 ай бұрын
Max and Dom really should consider charging longer in general lol
@DriveElectricWithDomenick3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! It seemed like we had plenty at our last stop, we even did the math. But, nope.
@j4k3br4k33 ай бұрын
The wrench microphone is on point.
@Axelrodz073 ай бұрын
Next should be the EV6, Tesla, Polestar Hyundai Ionic 😊
@Charles-in5xg3 ай бұрын
epic series. hope to see more of these in the future.
@Json9183 ай бұрын
Tesla wins ❤
@marcusrose59433 ай бұрын
Nope😂 driver error
@Json9183 ай бұрын
@@marcusrose5943 Kyle definitely knew that parking garage was tricky when setting up the end location 🤫 if you have to turn off your ac to end 2nd place that’s a big L 😂 all the screens in that tacky Mercedes couldn’t help them stay comfortable.
@MakeAMark17553 ай бұрын
Model X FTW
@yournumberonepal3 ай бұрын
Hopefully Hyundai/Kia build the packs a little bigger and higher voltage on the next version. It's weird they lowered the voltage compared to the Ioniq 5/6 and Kia EV6, with that bigger battery you would expect to hit 250 to 270kw charging rather than 200ish kw.
@advosburgh3 ай бұрын
Congrats to the Tesla. Seems to me that the EQS could have won if it actually got the charging speed that it always said it was going to get.
@Awaks3 ай бұрын
Yeah...the Tesla only won due to having the best charging speeds all trip. The rest were pretty unlucky, all the way.
@tauzN3 ай бұрын
Teslas charging wasn't perfect either. Solid win.
@boostav3 ай бұрын
@@Awaks Nope, Tesla saw 250kW only once.
@Longsnowsm3 ай бұрын
@@tauzN You are right, the X did not charge well for them at first. Ryan started paying attention about how low they let the SOC get since that car has known issues at the bottom of the pack. Worse yet Lacey had them take a different route out of the starting location and they got stuck waiting on that train. I agree with you it was a solid win. The second and last stops to charge were good, and Ryan made the right call to sit and wait a little longer at those charging stops. That turned out to be the deciding factor IMHO.
@LeesReviews69Ай бұрын
I watch all the way to then on 5 hour long videos. I can’t believe it
@michaelwitkiewicz70523 ай бұрын
Tesla crossed the line into a parking garage first. The fact that “someone” gave non-specific instructions doesn’t change that fact.
@osl773 ай бұрын
Kyle, next time you do a race like this one, the rules has to be: driving with the AC on at a comfortable setting, you have to make it to every supercharger with a xx% soc. Etc. To be more realistic. If people are driving with kids or pets this race does not help at all. I enjoyed watching the whole video but couldn’t help thinking what new EV drivers would do in situations like the ones you all went through. Looking forward to more content from OSM.
@JeffWusch3 ай бұрын
Also Frankie needs the EQS as her replacement company vehicle after the VinFast
@acaurora3 ай бұрын
If I had a buck for every time that Rivian chirped during the recap... 😄
@jdlutz19653 ай бұрын
I'm now interested in your time difference with in car route planning and would love a comparison in the future using only Plugshare, ABRP and Chargeway apps for road trips.
@henrymalong45423 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Heating up the popcorn. ❤
@webboy9982 ай бұрын
it's better than most movies out in the theater these days
@FarhoodEnsan2 ай бұрын
Great entertaining video! I do think Tesla had the best strategy and they won deservingly. Charging a few percent more, so you can cruise faster and keep comfort in the car is the way to do it even if racing. Hoping for bigger battery capacities and better charging stations in near future.
@justinswaagman25183 ай бұрын
Great video comparison. Would love to see a raw data table of the efficiencies of the route and legs each vehicle did. Races are interesting but a normal family wouldn't drive for hours without AC just to get somewhere faster lol. Looking forward to additional tests like this but possibly a more realistic drive versus just racing.
@SiuLeung3 ай бұрын
I think it has less to do with the cars and a lot to do with the strategy they took to get to their destination. If Kia took the Tesla's strategy and just overcharge to take advantage of preconditioning and speed limits, no doubt they could have won. That's the difference from first to last.
@iMaxPatten3 ай бұрын
I don’t think the Kia would ever beat Model X given its far superior efficiency. We could have easily done 3rd, *maybe* 2nd if things went awry for EQS
@newscoulomb37053 ай бұрын
48:35 I've seen similar behavior on other EVs, and I think it's possible that the car uses different battery temperature management parameters depending on whether the car is plugged in or unplugged. What happens is, the car sets the charging speed based on the battery temperature at the time it is plugged in, and then it manages the temperature rather than the charging speed from that point forward. Essentially, if the battery is too hot when plugged in, it will default to a slower charging profile rather than controlling the temperature and adjusting the charging speed up after the fact.
@ulfw2 ай бұрын
This was soooo good!
@user-Timothy13 ай бұрын
I am curious how the upcoming Volvo EX90 performs compared to these rivals.
@MrRaitzi28 күн бұрын
I bet not good. Early to tests indicate very poor efficiency
@jessesea773 ай бұрын
Another 2 hour video that is going to take me 15 hours to finish
@stevedowler23663 ай бұрын
The race obviously was a lot of fun, I'd join in on one of those head to head trials any time. My road trips are family style with stops for dogs and food and breaks so I'll be interested in the Return From Vegas run. Especially because Tesla runs the old highway software and I hope the other cars have better Automated Driver Assist than plain old Autopilot. Thanks to everyone in the race and safe driving back home.
@daisymae03 ай бұрын
Kyle you are slimming down. Nice. Great job. Just now getting the end. I only watch 15 minutes at a time
@Scott-10003 ай бұрын
Awesome video gang. Love these long races. It shows they are slowly catching up on tesla. Well done all. Look forward to the trip back 👌👍
@MatthewSerta13 ай бұрын
I would kind of like to see a race to Vegas in 4 identical cars, where strategy is your only downfall or benefit.
@tomm59363 ай бұрын
Then Kyle would win because he has so much experience in how to optimize the driving and stops etc.
@MatthewSerta13 ай бұрын
@@tomm5936 well obviously. But it would be a good test to their ability, and may be a good learning experience for everyone.
@falklumo3 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my Renault 4 memories with its 330 miles of reach. We came full circle in just a few decades ... ;)
@adamchoi81363 ай бұрын
Max and Dom are the rockstars pulling in at zero.
@thomasjacques52863 ай бұрын
Driving in the desert heat without AC should be a disqualifier. That's not real-world. And geez wife and I are 72 and have had no trouble adjusting to NO STALKS.
@Carfan6783 ай бұрын
Just cause u have adjusted to it doesn't mean its better why try and fix what isn't broken
@Awaks3 ай бұрын
No stalks is stupid. Easy as...Deal with it. It's dumber than the overhead gear selector on the Cybertruck, and only outclassed by the Tesla's on-screen gear selector.
@michaelrichter25283 ай бұрын
The entire Out Of Specs roadtripping style is not at all °real-world°. Thats what makes these videos fun for me
@ezpoppy553 ай бұрын
@@thomasjacques5286 Yeah, I thought Ryan’s comment (“No stalks is a deal killer”) was… odd. Really? I thought the young ‘uns were the more adaptable. I’m 68 and while no stalks would be an adjustment, it’d be one I could and would make. I’ve already made much bigger ones going from Camry to M3. And agree, if it’s a “family race” then there ought to be family requirements: climate minimums, unscheduled bio-breaks, unscheduled food/snack stops, dog walks, etc… You know, the real world stuff that makes a family road trip the unique experience it is!