They had NO SUPERSTARS & STILL won the NBA Finals - 2004 Detroit Pistons Documentary

[@oronasundial]

Take it from me being a die hard SPURS fan. These pistons we're my favorite team in the east because they played defense just as good as we did. It was insane. I can see how that Lakers super team was overwhelmed they used the same blue print pretty much my Spurs used to beat l.a. in 2003 to end their threepeat to perfection. These pistons we're just way better at it. Team Chemistry will always be stronger than a talented super team. That is why all the player's on these pistons team's we're deadly on the court. I still remember that 05 finals. This piston team was the hardest team I've ever seen.

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

I'm a die hard Det fan and feel the same way about the Spurs. I always rooted for them unless we were playing each other lol. Coaches were from the same tree and built their teams the same way. U guys just had better players and executed a little better when we played in the finals. One of the most hard fought finals I ever seen! Those were the days lol. Look at us now!!

[@oronasundial]

@@LaStOnE_leFt wow. Cool man. One thing for sure we we're both blessed with two incredibly good team's and franchises. I ALWAYS have nothing but good thing's to say about this Detroit team they earned the respect.

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

@@oronasundial SAME!!

[@oronasundial]

@@LaStOnE_leFtbut dude take it from me I know a thing about the 04-05 season I aged during that incredibly long season watched and recorded just about every Spurs game even the eastern conference finals that went to 7 games where detroit won on the road. The Spurs had home court in the finals won the first two only to loose the next two in ridiculous blowouts. Detroit seemed unbeatable at home. If we didn't have luck and the will to pull away finally in that 4th quarter detroit would had won it. Just think of this we had our big three in their primes a solid center and a loaded bench. Yet we still barely won. That's insane That's how good that detroit team was. I'd pick them over any team just about. In other words that wasn't any ordinary Spurs title team it was our strongest in all honesty.

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

@@oronasundial that's a great point! Never really looked at it from that POV! Always liked the Spurs fan base as well. U know how some teams have an obnoxious fan base lol? I hate the cowboys just because of their fans. No other reason! Yankees too! Theyre the worst no matter if they win or lose! All the excuses in the world if they lose and all the praise if they win.

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

Dumars didnt get enough credit for putting that team together. Take away one piece and it wouldn't have worked. Genius!! Still one of my all time favorite players!!

[@unclesam6972]

Built them to look like the Bad Boys

[@AJ-vm8ft]

He got all the credit and leeway. His decision after 2006 is what caused his reputation and image to be tarnished

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

@@AJ-vm8ft I don't know what you're referring to

[@AJ-vm8ft]

@@LaStOnE_leFt of course you don’t.

[@AJ-vm8ft]

@@LaStOnE_leFt I knew this before I even started my first comment

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

That Darko pick still makes me sick lol

[@podunkest]

He got a ring lol, sure woulda been nice to have had Chris Bosh or Dwade :/

[@WBendolph]

Same here but without the Darko pick (bust) there probably wouldn't have a reason to trade for Wallace.

[@LaStOnE_leFt]

@@WBendolph very true! It all worked out I guess. Hopefully our boys take major steps forward this season!

[@instantbasketball7726]

I think if they drafted Melo their chemistry wouldn't have been as good 🤷‍♂

[@MrHunterbg]

An opinion based on the fact the team themselves said it. If they didn’t say that, nobody would be saying that.

[@herchelleonwood7463]

after seeing darko flop i'm A OKAY taking that chance..

[@AJ-vm8ft]

Right coach with the right player. Changes history

[@AJ-vm8ft]

Prince as 6th man to come off the bench for defense, still will be who he is. Melo, under a coach that prides defense and the right way, changes his mentality. Absolute dynasty

[@stephenleal2433]

Being 8 years old, this Piston team is what got me into basketball. Watching that chemistry and determination as a child really grabbed a hold of me

[@zackspiker_]

That team is easily one of my favorite favorites.

[@HWolfeIII]

Only mistake Joe made was drafting Darko, otherwise he put together an incredible ream and coaching staff. Great video.

[@anthonyclark9441]

Dumars had nothing to do with shipping Grant to Orlando. Dumars retired that Off Season and DID NOT WANT Grant to leave. The Pistons did NOT want to get rid of Grant, but the mishandling of his Injury and wanting to go join with Duncan (or so he thought) meant he wasn't coming back. He agreed to do the Sign and Trade, because he was a Class Guy, and wanted the Pistons to get something for his leaving. If Dumars had his way, Grant would have still been a Piston.

[@tenzinalexander]

Max salary was 9 million in yhe first year of the comtract. Crazy that i thought that was super high back then. Oh times have changed!

[@jessiesmith5577]

Just think if they drafted Chris Bosh that would have been cool too

[@neal6473]

That's right and I think Chris Bosh would of fit in better with Detroit then Carmelo.

[@tolicelawrence461]

We need Dumars back as team president bad ! He had a gift of picking great unheard players to form a great team.

[@envyops]

Hope I'm not misremembering, but I think there was an article where players complained that Carlisle was fired because he tried to call every single offensive play.

[@younglove3362]

People say they had no superstar. But their actual best player was Rasheed Wallace who was the Blazers franchise player. History gets convoluted because Billups was the finals MVP. But anyone that knows history knows that Rasheed was a major piece and the driving 🚗 force that pushed 🫸 them over the hump, resulting in an instant championship 🏆🍾 afterwards.

[@seandaniels7938]

Yeah he was a big piece but a superstar is a clear cut best player like a superstar is someone you say we gotta build around this one player no team would build around sheed as good as he was as for Portland it was kinda the same boat they just had lots of good players that complemented each other but no on that pistons team was a generational player just a bunch of good starting caliber guys who had chemistry throw the roof I seen them growing up went to many games and this was just a well rounded team no clear best guy they all were good and played well with each other closest comparable team is 2014 spurs yeah they had Tim and kawhi was Making a name for himself but was just a team who played well with each other

[@younglove3362]

@@seandaniels7938 so you're saying that Ben Wallace was the super star?

[@sportsfordays2039]

0:00 Intro 01:10 The Grant Hill Saga 04:03 2000 - 2001 Season 07:06 2001-2002 Season 09:09 2002-2003 Season: The Arrival of Chauncey Billups & Rip Hamilton 15:52 2003 Offseason: Drafting Darko & Hiring Larry Brown 19:53 2003-2004 Season 22:32 2004 Playoffs 24:25 Conference Finals vs The Indiana Pacers 26:25 NBA Finals vs The LA Lakers

[@max_performance_solutions]

Great video!

[@Eazy6874]

Well done video sir

[@richardtabor8686]

Deeeeeee-troit Basket-baaaaallll!!!

[@tonybrodeur4766]

Dope. All the KZbin videos I seen on this team are 5-10 minutes long maybe 15. No one goes depth it’s just a quick review of the starting 5 Players maybe going into details proceeding the 03-04 explaining why they could never win again but no one explained how they got here. Only interviews with the players explaining the past but never in a documentary on the whole team

[@sportsfordays2039]

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[@chuckbritt8806]

My favorite team

[@Bigskiiruff]

Yea Melo would've improved their scoring but he also makes one of the best defenses in nba history no longer that

[@PaulJohns-k8j]

I don't think Darko was a bad pick

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

A 3 year old Wilt Chamberlain is what they must have meant when comparing Darko to “a young Wilt”.

[@alatthepost]

They had multiple super stars. What are talking about?

[@seandaniels7938]

No they didn't lmao all stars maybe not a superstar a superstar is a player like lebron jordan kobe etc we did not have a superstar

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

@@seandaniels7938they have 2 hof

[@younglove3362]

They had no super star. If you don't consider Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace a super star then you weren't watching the NBA in 2002. And if you did then you don't know basketball.

[@sportsfordays2039]

Rasheed was very talented but not a superstar. You can make an argument for Ben Wallace maybe being a super star but I would say he was a star at best.

[@seandaniels7938]

Superstar is someone like bron or kobe

[@seandaniels7938]

So looks like you don't know basketball

[@younglove3362]

@sportsfordays2039 First off, Rasheed was a superstar. Secondly, that Pistons team was stacked. Three superstars, possibly 4 if you count Hamilton. They were all in the Allstar game's. That right there already proves you have no clue what you're saying. And no they weren't Allstars because they were just shoe ins. All of them were legit starters and only Prince was a role player. The only reason y'all don't consider Ben a super star is because he was a defensive player. But seeing 👀 that he was the best defender and shot blocker debunks what you say about him not being a superstar 🙄.

[@younglove3362]

@seandaniels7938 I was watching basketball before Kobe and LeBron. That's why what I'm saying sound foreign to you while folks that watched them play know what I'm saying. You got it twisted. **You** don't know basketball.

[@deftcoyote7651]

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetroit Basketballlllllllllllllllll

[@Alczervik]

This is horrible and inaccurate analysis. Shoot me a message and I’ll tell you precisely what happened.

[@Alczervik]

Yeah. This was my era.

[@Alczervik]

@@sportsfordays2039Do you want to know why they got rid of Rick Carlisle? It’s because he was too hard on players. The Pistons had legendary scout Scotty Robertson (former local coaching legend) to talk to him, and Rick hung up the phone on him. Bill Davidson had to get rid of him at that point. There is one point of clarification.

[@Alczervik]

Grant Hill had horrible ankle injury and played through it. He never sat out. Dumars didn’t decide to get rid of him, We wanted him back. Grant wanted to make a super team with McGrady and his wife wanted out of Detroit. Dumars was given a gift - That he capitalized on - with the request for sign and trade. Grant was gone, regardless of what Pistons wanted.

[@seandaniels7938]

You don't know shit

[@manimani-xe3xg]

I think Darko arrived when the pistons were contending. No one can expect him to do great things at 18. Bad luck! Every other year, the same thing happened. I feel sad for him. I guess he got some good money at least.