They're changing the townies in The Sims 4?!

[@CupOfCheeese]

They could give Johnny an angry sentiment with his parents! Would be a cool scenario to either make up with his parents or not as well. Like become mortal enemies with his parents.

[@christinewhoyt]

like mayb despised or somethink like that. :)

[@pamisachan]

Yes!!!! I love Johnny's story. I made him a famous entertainer, made him marry Judith Ward, then turned him into an obnoxious youtuber and then when Judith got older she retired and they moved to the beach

[@CarolinaRodriguez-bz6cc]

Or even better, having Johnny ACTUALLY related to the Landgraabs

[@CupOfCheeese]

@@CarolinaRodriguez-bz6cc Kayla already stated that in the video. I just added on saying it would make a cool scenario. :)

[@indedgames4359]

They ar restrictions on what they can do

[@winifreddie]

absolutely iconic of mortimer to just throw on sunglasses for hot weather and gloves for cold

[@caseymarie625]

It fits him honestly

[@jaqsre]

honestly feels fitting because hes a bit weird /affectionate

[@bessmcmess4314]

Me tbh

[@CeaseEcho]

I see it as lazy. They put far more time and effort into Bella than him.

[@graysonrogers-barnes6302]

Relatable.

[@bluefluffyunicorn8190]

i like that they are updating the townies, i just wished bella would have kept her iconic dress

[@peaceout7152]

Ya same

[@hayleighpouliot6327]

i looooove the new dress so much. i agree somewhat, but i’m just going to add her iconic dress as another outfit i think.

[@floatingeyeofdeath]

And aged up Alexander just to check how he looks.

[@andrewmoeller1987]

It's very easy to just change the dress.

[@niallsbox82]

yeahhhh

[@jenniferschmidt3854]

Age up Alexander, then look at him from the side. They did him dirty. You'd think after 8 years of this game they'd know that toddlers and children don't look anything like their adult form. There's even a CAS "toddler to adult" challenge because of this.

[@Komi83]

You don't even have to look at him from the side. Front is sufficient.

[@hyenagore2982]

@@BengtBagels the mustache makes sense for morty. He's based off Gomez and he's got the same type of mustache

[@cawesomewhatever]

But Alexander was so attractive when he aged up into a teen. 😰

[@cawesomewhatever]

Orignally

[@danielm4436]

They made Alexander...Vlads offspring.

[@lukevanwyngaardt6584]

My only complaints about the Goth Update are that Bella is no longer in her Signature Red dress, Alexander ages up poorly and while I appreciate that Bella and Cassandra have darker skin tones, they look a bit ashy

[@deadmeme9031]

apparently they based Bella's off of ts3, not ts2

[@caseymarie625]

I completely agree

[@natanpeixoto7460]

They could’ve only alongate the dress and made some simple recolors/retextures but nooo 😮‍💨

[@bearoqueiro8905]

I actually love bellas new hair and dress, but damn. alex is... something

[@Athena_xpz]

Yup

[@Littlespongeysnail]

I’m so glad Cassandra got new hair and looks like a normal teen now

[@bluehoodiegamer1322]

Whenever I get in the game, I edit the Goths and the Landgraabs. I hated their looks... But I love this look now for them!

[@Post_the_most]

Bwahahaha. She now doesn't look like a Goth anymore

[@chillfactory9000]

@@BengtBagels the skintone did piss me off a bit but I never saw anyone else mention it- you'll notice in the sims 2, aka one of Bella and Cassandra's most iconic appearances, both their skintones are VERY warm. they dont look ashy at all. edit: also, being goth or alternative doesn't mean pale / desaturated in skin too.

[@eroticmanhole]

@@BengtBagels To be fair as a person who's mixed, with my skin in around the same range as Bella Goth, ashyness like that is pretty reflective of how much sun you get. I get no sun, and am ashy as all Hell

[@Post_the_most]

@@BengtBagels The 1920 silent villain look can be goth-ish

[@fivosfivos5644]

Wouldn't be a GREAT idea to do the same thing with the houses too??

[@ktufktuf333]

YES especially the strangerville and the (idk what its called but the magic one, spellcaster world)

[@buttons256]

I think they should do the houses and NOT the townies tbh

[@julialeavister]

I’d prefer that over the townie refresh

[@deadmeme9031]

@@buttons256 this except for the whitewashed townies

[@buttons256]

@@deadmeme9031 Yeahh you’re absolutely right I think they should just change the skin tones to be more appropriate and leave everything else

[@biscuityy]

Despite all of our disagreements, we can all agree they did Alexander dirty.

[@Staffordmiriam]

Ohh 😂😂

[@malami4891]

Yes, really

[@biscuityy]

@@malami4891 I’m Glad they updated them, but I liked them before and I wish they hadn’t changed so many features on them tho.

[@mi1kguts]

@@biscuityy lmao they completely whitewashed bella and cassie. you prefer that?

[@biscuityy]

@@mi1kguts No, I don’t agree with them doing that, obviously, I said I don’t like how they completely changed all of their features.

[@candalalala]

If they had given the townies lore from the get go this wouldn’t be so time consuming for them 😅

[@kinleyyy]

everyone makes mistakes and now theyre fixing their mistakes :) but actions have consequences.

[@danitho]

@@kinleyyy Love the way you think

[@zandeis]

I miss the lore from the other games so much 😭

[@si-jx1nb]

but then they would have had a delayed release, most prefer to have the game out early and a patch later than a delayed release.

[@antares6167]

@@si-jx1nb I mean, sure, I guess I could understand it, but not when that "later patch" comes 8 years after release

[@WHAATEVEN]

The irony is the problem with Bella was that her skintone was not warm enough and they actually made it cooler. darker yes, but cooler. Bella is meant to be Mediterranean with a warm olive tone, they did not meet this expectation and instead it comes across as ashy (which given their track record with skin tones is very disappointing) ESPECIALLY since they got this feedback of her looking ashy when they revealed the concept art questionable paint over that people were already not vibing with as she was not recognisable as Bella!

[@indecisive.325]

I'm glad someone else noticed this. When I first saw her new skintone, I was put off by it and I didn't know why. Poor Bella is ASHY 👀

[@punkrockerlego]

Found a chart comparison on Reddit. It seems the devs matched their skintones with their Sims 3 version instead of Sims 2, which what everyone was expecting

[@deadmeme9031]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING. Bella always had a warm skintone, It feels off to see her with a cooler tone

[@deadmeme9031]

@@punkrockerlego (sorry for commenting twice) but that actually makes sense, as Sims 3 still has the widest variety of base game skintones because of the slider

[@WHAATEVEN]

@@punkrockerlego that’s disappointing to me too as I felt the Sims 3 versions weren’t accurate to the original and The Sims 2 Bella either which is wildly frustrating to me as The Goths from Sims 1 and 2 are the most iconic iterations of the family

[@amandastevenson3970]

Okay, I’m from Alaska and the moodlet lamp is like Happy Lights! In places that don’t get a lot of sun, happy lights give you UV rays that simulates sunlight to produce natural Vitamin D that you’re probably lacking in higher latitudes. So this tiny detail is actually so cool and realistic!

[@emmmma143]

That’s actually so cool. I’m from Arizona (as polar opposite as you can get lol) so I have no idea this was a thing. You learn something new everyday!

[@livilou3099]

That’s what I was thinking to! I was literally thinking “oh I can use this so often” right before she said she didn’t think she would find a place for it most of the time!

[@erinheaberlin2666]

Here in the pacific northwest it's raining most of the time, so we have happy lights too!

[@landsaroundtheworld]

Winter time must have.

[@elenas3571]

They did Alexander dirty! He’s spot on as a kid but as a teen he’s a completely different sim!

[@hesterwright3674]

I've tried using genetics to make kids with Bella and Mortimer, both the old versions and the new and honestly, no matter how many times I click "randomise son" their sons are always kinda fugly as a teen/adult 😆😆 idk what it is

[@taraburton5113]

Same I never had decent looking Alexander as a teen😭

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

@@hesterwright3674 that's in most cases just sims genetics.. it's very rare for my born in game male sims to look good.. though it does happen sometimes most of the time they end up looking like an absolute toe.. though i do often go in and change them around because i just cannot i did recently have one that looked fine though in my current save he was my second generation heir and actually was pretty good looking. (another odd thing is shoulders for me they often end up with really broad shoulders so if they have a female child it just ends up looking odd when you put certain clothes on said sim )

[@monae1529]

@@taraburton5113 my Alex kept growing up to be buff asf with big ears 😭

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

@@BengtBagels it's true though

[@SGast]

I am also annoyed that they did not add likes and dislikes. I also thought that Cassandras black and grey wardrobe was a rebellion against her Mom and her obsession with red. So it seems weird to me that she now suddenly also dresses in red and black. I also hoped that they would give the family some more skills and maybe relationships. That was a reach goal but it seems odd to me that the NPC have such random skills that make no sense to me. Bella should have some parenting skill if you have Parenthood and Mortimer is supposed to be a writer but no writing skill if I remember correctly. Makes no sense for someone this established. We are not allowed to start a game playing with the NPCs anyway so why not give them a better fuller backstory with real careers and skills. It would be funny to me if the Goth household had already a maid service and if I started playing with them it would just show up.

[@Post_the_most]

Yeah for real

[@TheLostTVRemote]

@BISS where did you get the information that she liked blue :0

[@honorablesix]

Old Bella: in her late 20’s New Bella: in her mid 40’s

[@AKA_Studios]

Which kinda makes sense since she has a teen daughter!

[@honorablesix]

@@AKA_Studios ohh true, what was she like 9 when she was first pregnant 🤰?? Lmao 😂

[@MariusBoss11458]

​@@honorablesix Finally someone talks. I don't get why she looked so Young. Sure she's a Young adult here but still. Though uhh. I can't say much. My Sim is still a Young Adult and he's got a Teen Son. Such a Hard name! Marius Junior!

[@MEDSZ13.08]

I feel like old Bella was older just got some enhancements..34 ish is what I thought

[@AEwell5858]

Tbh she's supposed to be around the same age as Mortimer, but there's a few reason why they aren't. Gameplay-wise, Bella's had two kids. Mortimer would've aged up before her. Lore-wise, I think Bella uses aging aids like Elixirs of Life, Potions of Youth, etc. In some variants she's able to use magic like the seance table. And Mortimer is a scientist in some versions. I think at some point an experiment made him age faster. That or he drank the Elixir of Life with negative aspiration.

[@clarehealy3632]

Sentiments are a great way to add lore that they should take advantage of!! Like johnny zest and the Landgraabs could have that festering grudge sentiment. I really hope they use their own mechanics to bring these townies to (better) life!

[@dandeliond.3560]

I think they dug their own grave by adding those features to different packs. now it's harder to make the base game better, sadly....

[@gaysonorthotdaughta]

im still feeling a little 50/50 on the “updating townies” idea, it could be a good thing but ill still miss the old charm that a lot of the original townies bring. ill admit that bella goth got yassified like hell and it came out amazing, but it’ll be surreal seeing the familiar old faces in the sims have complete wardrobe makeovers.

[@buttons256]

Welllll, they’re not “familiar faces” because they literally gave them new faces 😂

[@MariusBoss11458]

It would be nice if everytime you start a new Game you can choose if you want the old look or new look. Or make a custom section where you can choose. Like you can have everyone else have the New look except for the Goth Family.

[@gaysonorthotdaughta]

@@MariusBoss11458 RIGHTT, that’d be amazing

[@shortytori9119]

@@MariusBoss11458 Though I'm sure their old look is on the Gallery, so we could always just delete the new and replace with the old

[@deadmeme9031]

Personally I think the og looks were good (except the whitewashing obviously) but I also like the new ones, I think Bella looks more mature now, and Cassie looks like a modern teen. But at the same time, I miss things like Bella's iconic dress (yes I know it's her party outfit but idc

[@dear_totheheart]

I want changes and genuine improvements that aren’t skin deep… Give us lore, character, gameplay, complex personalities/desires, etc. not just a clothing change and poor makeovers

[@MiloKuroshiro]

So you dont want skin deep changes but want lore? Literally just a wall of text?

[@deadmeme9031]

@@MiloKuroshiro I mean Sims lore is a lot more than that, take Sims 2 for example, with memories and wants and fears. And Sims 3 with the scrapbook and memories and family trees. And each of these games also had complex personalities for these characters

[@regeneratedwitch]

@@MiloKuroshiro TS4 is just a text! Lore is deeper than that! Jump into TS2 and thank me later 💕

[@dear_totheheart]

I want quality, not mediocrity

[@kbasyt]

@@MiloKuroshiro wow dumb

[@peterhsu7137]

I love their new appearances and make up but I prefer their old outfits tbh

[@edit6588]

Me too I don't like Bellas hair and makeup

[@Gafafsg]

9:14 the issue with the lamp’s “lighting” is that it isn’t actually lighting. It’s a translucent image on a flat plane that’s locked to the angle of the camera, but it cuts through the floor which is why it looks like it stops so suddenly.

[@Cokytron1]

Even if they dont go and revamp all of the townies, i would love a fashion update. 2014 fashion feels so outdated already, specially on townies like the laandgrabs and the calientes, that are supposed to be fashionable. Like the Calientes are supposed to be these pretty, young ladies and i feel it would make sense for their outfits to reflect that in 2022 context. The landgraabs are a rich family and i would love their clothes to reflect that too, like Nancy could definetely feel the kind of woman who shows her wealth through her straight-off-the-runway clothes. I thnk that would be pretty nice.

[@yomiyuarts]

The caliente's fashion in sims 2 Looks more modern than the one theyre wearing today.. like how does that make sense?

[@dragonlord1935]

@@yomiyuarts lol I think that says more about fashion trends in general than anything Sims specific tbh

[@miss_sjo]

I like how Kayla is happy about "iconic hair of Bella" being kept for formal wear.... When it is not THE hair. 😅

[@stargayzer-piyo]

I was playing Sims yesterday and was astonished when Mortimer had no mustache!! I don't even like mustaches in Sims but it's iconic for him

[@Magicme79]

If I was Morty, I’d want a paternity test the minute that kid aged up, lol

[@seanrepuyan3493]

This video is EXACTLY a year when we got likes and dislikes!!! When Kayla said “over a year” I was like, there’s no way, feels like yesterday. I have no concept of time anymore, everything is a blur.

[@thesourpatchkidd579]

You know now that you mention it, this whole thing is kind of odd. Cause if you were just going to add some new outfits and skin tones you probably didn't need a year to roll out one family. Appreciate you doing it though. Also I started playing the Sims when the pandemic hit so I had no idea seasons only came out in 2018????? Seems like that should've been one of the first expansion packs.

[@MiloKuroshiro]

That's not how things work in a giant company like EA and Maxis. Think like that: Every small change to be done needs to have a written plan sent, approved, a team and a budget alocated, a time slot alocated, a budget, team and time for QA and a budget and slot for rolling it in (now with the Delivery Express this last one is remedied and that's why it exists). The most insignificat things, if it's not a Level 0 issue, take something like 6 months. And the thing with Seasons is that, after Get to Work and Get Together (6 months cycle) were heavily criticized for being pretty bad content-wise, they started a 9 to 10 month cycle. City Living(2016), Cats and Dogs(2017) and Seasons(2018) were the only Expansions released in their year.

[@Stettafire]

@@MiloKuroshiro This

[@Char10tt3_]

imo just because content is free doesn’t excuse it being poorly made, personally id rather have no free table than a free table that they either half-assed, or weren’t given the time to finish properly

[@JessScreams]

Ngl I kinda liked the fact that Alexander’s eyebrows didnt used to match. I liked the fan theory that I saw once where someone said it was like the Goths had had him dye his hair black to match the rest of them haha. But all laughs aside I am super stoked that even one family of townies got refreshed :)

[@crisiscat]

I just wish they hadn't made Bella look older without actually aging her up from young adult to adult. And her iconic mini red dress :(

[@kimberlypagnozzi24]

I like Cassie’s new look. But I actually prefer Alex’s OG base look, especially when he ages up.

[@Karin-fj3eu]

And Alex never inherited that dark of a skin tone and was still quite pale in the sims 2 so

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

I feel like he dresses less like a kid

[@lenwalker6254]

I hope they remake the landgraab and zest households and make it so they're actully related in the family tree

[@Stettafire]

Yes, I always correct it in all of my save games cus it's weird. Also make them enimies. Zest was exiled from his family so he'd of course hate them!

[@thefinalfrontear]

i hope eliza and bob are updated!! i want their relationship to actually reflect their lore, and i think it’d be great for eliza to start out being pregnant and not know! how does their relationship change if iggy arrived unexpectedly? i feel like it writes itself, i don’t know why it wasn’t already like that

[@lyricallovex.]

I like the idea of them refreshing the townies, but if they refresh ALL of them, I wouldn't like that. People like Nancy and Eliza are just to iconic to change.

[@nikkie9302]

I remember the Goths in the sims 2 they are still my top fav townies.

[@CarlDillynson]

Bella’s new hair for her new formal wear *isn’t* her original hair from before, Simsie. Lol!

[@Daffyduckieable]

New lore and appearances will be interesting but this is huge!

[@steveharringtonisfine9422]

OMG THIS IS SO EXCITING! I am so excited that they are doing stuff to the base game for players that can’t get the packs or don’t want to spend money on the game

[@Astrella.Alhena]

Could probably use that new moodlet light for Stanley when you're trying to make money and he's just uncomfy!

[@KingdomLex]

There was nothing wrong with Bella's old dress, Mortimers outfit too

[@bessmcmess4314]

Feels a wee bit awkward only doing one household at a time though, are they trying to update us into submission? 😂

[@dandeliond.3560]

pretty much. giving little tid bits to keep us from starting a revolt 🤣

[@RSiB-22]

Still miss Bella’s iconic dress and hair. I do like the skin tone change tho. It fits her original design better. And Morty looks good too. Cass didn’t change too much, but my gosh Alexander looks so bad in comparison-

[@peach_5127]

I agree

[@MariusBoss11458]

Alex reminds me of what? Malcolm? The Original one. Or some other kid in Sims 3.

[@MariusBoss11458]

@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 🧠⃠ That it was white or? Because before in the Older games they were darker. So now it makes more sense.

[@RSiB-22]

@@MariusBoss11458 why am I blanking on who Malcom is

[@RSiB-22]

@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 🧠⃠ I wouldn’t say it was dumb, I mean they do fit their original design more now. Just hate they changed her hair and such

[@nick_stuff]

The new chair will go really well with the dream home decorator stuff.

[@danielaj.4991]

I know they already have the Calientes planned for a refresh, but I REALLY hope they change Liberty’s skin tone soon because they whitewashed the hell out of her compared to her MySims counterpart (+ arguably Yuki too, although they only really share the name 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@MariusBoss11458]

That reminds me. I would like if they change the Pancake Family. Add their Son and have the Relationship bar be low and shit. Oh and Liberty. I don't really like her in my game. So I just delete her. It would be nice to have her and she finds a man.

[@niamh7035]

the calientes need it BAD.. i wonder if and how theyll acknowledge nighat and flamenco

[@nojams1231]

Theres a lot of sims that need make overs. My personal picks are Dustin Broke (literally does not look like Dustin at all!) and Holly Alto (Uh... who is this imposter?)

[@townjester]

i mean, if shes supposed to be asian squinted eyes and buck teeth seem problematic for a design too... yk going off her mysims

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

I- liberty has buck teeth in MySims 😭

[@kawaiijohn]

oh the moodlit lamp looks just like the sun lamp I use for my SADS in winter! I like that it gives off a cheerful moodlet.

[@RychaardRyder]

so i have had the sims for a long time now and wanted to pull up an old save so i can compare and, omfg, i have a save from 2017 titled "don lothario impregnates all men" as my attempt at a gay 100 baby challenge but stopped midway since i hated editing each male towny to be able to become pregnant in cas(i feel like there should be a mod for that) and i am DYING AT THE MEMORIES

[@n1cote3n]

HELPPPP DON LOTHARIO IMPREGNATES ALL MEN??

[@vodanykey_5780]

Kayla has been in the sun lately! Her freckles are so cute!!

[@AEwell5858]

Personally I've been with the TS4 Goth Family since before ghosts or pools were even in the game. It's been about 8 years at this point. I'm ready for something new and I actually like their take on Bella in a lotta aspects. I don't think I've ever seen a realistic take on her like this. She might not wear the dress she had on when Cassandra was still a child, but she's definitely got it locked up somewhere safe. Body wise, I know my own mom had reduction a while after having 2 kids. Bella to me has always felt like a natural beauty rather than someone who'd get a lotta work done. I think that fits Nancy Landgraab way more. Tbh I think Mortimer got the worst outfit. The old one made him look like he lives in a cold haunted mansion. Very formal, but kinda comfy. But now he looks real plain. He definitely stands out, but he looks like he part of Mobwives and his winterwear makes me think "oh he's definitely gonna murder his wife". The old family are still in the game. The Gallery especially wouldn't let them disappear. It's a bit of a pill to swallow knowing that brand new player now may be unfamiliar with the Bella we've basically grown up on, but it's ok. Things change, new ideas are thrown in. It'd be impossible for them to please everyone.

[@arieltales8952]

There's a theory in Sims 2 about Mortimer murdering Bella because she cheated on him.

[@AEwell5858]

@@arieltales8952 Yeah, fun theory but doesn't hold up well. If I remember right, Bella rejected Don before she disappeared. She was over his house to welcome him to the neighborhood. But if that's the ref they were going for with the winter wear it definitely made me laugh

[@arieltales8952]

@@AEwell5858 Bella rejected making out with Don, but a Sim in TS2 requires flirting and a first kiss to enable this option. Also, it is plausible Bella and Skip Broke had a romance.

[@AEwell5858]

@@arieltales8952 In TS2 you only have one First Kiss and that gets locked in. For Don that was Nina, which I actually didn't know they knew each other that long. But you can actually go straight into making out with another sim if you've built enough relationship (making out also doubles as a "first kiss" with a new sim in the memories). Seems to me that they were getting along and Don started hitting on her real hard. Skip and Bella? K you've lost me. As far as I can tell the Brokes and Goths don't know each other. Brandi knows the Calientes, but that's kinda it. There's a small connection in that they're both missing/dead/displaced Sims and both technically have two versions within the game. Skip Broke/Skip Broke (hidden) and Bella Goth (Pleasantview)/Bella Goth (Strangetown) with this one being an actual clone

[@landsaroundtheworld]

I wish they could remember their relatives after they move out.

[@Bunnybananabunny]

I'm happy that you brought up what they actually said about the townie makeover, because I remembered they mentioned it, but forgot how detailed they told it would be. I would not have realized how meh this update was compared to what was promised without you pointing it out!

[@Cafe_Maple]

im watching this in 2024 and the landgrabbs still dont have an update

[@ErinnPG]

Also lore wise- I'd love to see Johnny Zest have like 1-2 class credits in university showing that he dropped out.

[@derpyjane2524]

Interesting take! I always assumed he dropped out of high school 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@mayamoon9207]

I don't know how I feel about this. Obviously the acknowledging of the white washing and changing that is a good thing, but it feels like they made them too different from how they were before, especially Alexander. Like, that's a whole different sim

[@sleepwellbeast]

I agree. They could have adjusted the skin tones without changing them so much.

[@kpopoholic_4623]

If they made their skintones warmer it would of been ok.

[@MEDSZ13.08]

You can change them in your own game..I like them to each his own

[@Post_the_most]

@@MEDSZ13.08 You can't because unlike in the previous versions relationships aren't saved via gallery

[@FirebladesSong]

@@Post_the_most Within a single household they are. Or at least as much as they start out with in a new game anyway.

[@Kai-yr6em]

For Bella's formal hair, it's not the old one it's a different one

[@alkemi5522]

The sdx drp furniture could be great for a kid's hangout place. Like cafe where parents can have a cup and lots of toys and activities for the children (toddlers). Those things exist irl so it might be cute.

[@donner919]

Hi Simsie, I just wanted to say thank you for putting captions on your video's. I find it helps me better understand videos and I find I remember more information that way. Thank you so much :)

[@arieltales8952]

I prefer them now and I think the Caliente's need a refresh. I hope they don't make Don uglier. However, I would prefer EA added more options in CAS like making lower noses, bigger foreheads, more eyes, lips, cheeks, etc. Also, individual bios and create a style. The skin tones and the likes and dislikes updates received fandom's great reactions that are evidence CAS requires more options to be added.

[@Est_valentine]

Another thing u would like if they updated the sims again would be for like Johnny zest to have like a red bar relationship with his parents instead of like not knowing them

[@christinewhoyt]

Agreed!

[@bIairsarchive]

bella and cassandra look ashy and whoever did alexander paid no attention to the way he looks aged up, his features are exaggerated and he doesn’t look related to the family.

[@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059]

I have no clue what Cassandra goth was supposed to be, but if she was supposed to be a nerd then her clothes wouldn't have to be "trendy". Not all Sims have to be trendy, but for some reason they all end up being fashionistas.

[@possummagic3571]

I always pictured her as a nerdy goth girl. A bit like Abby from NCIS.

[@Stettafire]

Yes, this. The hyper focus on super fashionable models is a bit odd

[@emilyschoener5441]

She’s supposed to be like Wednesday Addams - the only version of of her that fits that concept is her adult version in TS2. I don’t understand the “nerdy” thing they’ve done here, at all.

[@lianna9492]

love that they look more natural now (not bella's body but just the way they all are dressed)

[@tanja_e]

2:37 not the pepper pig outfit😭🤣

[@707Bubby]

I would love them to add a lot more lore, I would even like to see things like a couple dead relaitve in the tree, like maybe some people that are ALREADY ghosts in the game, or just to see in the family tree some past ancestors of people

[@mertarican5456]

8:00 I wish anyone other then EA made this franchise. It has so much potantial... They do not give a single shit though :(.

[@champagne90]

You can use that lamp when they are mourning

[@Ryazzan]

I LOVE that they're updating townies! Although I'm a little annoyed about the timing since I just caved and updated the Goths for myself literally last week. As far as the not-bump-mapped table, is it likely done that way on purpose to reduce the polygon count? I learned from lilsimsie videos that part of the reason some of the EA-made houses are so terrible is because they test them to run on minimum-spec computers, so I would think the new table has a simplified mesh for the same reason? I'm also intrigued by this idea that they've somehow managed to do Alexander dirtier than they did before. Old Alexander looked ABSURD as an adult, and I wouldn't have thought they could make that worse. Half of me wants to go age him up and see, the other half wonders if I would rather not know. Thanks for the existential crisis, KZbin comments section!

[@KimDominie]

I'm just going to save the Goths to my library in one of my old saves, and every new save, replace these new ones with the old.

[@Magus魔王]

I love Casandra but she's a little bit darker than Bella and personally when I played the sims 2 Casandra with her hair down and without glasses is literally like Bella, even tho, I like her but it's a little bit weird, and PLEASE SIMS TEAM give her proper ponytails :'((((

[@cozythembo]

Fr, she would look so cute with pigtails except they use the weirdest ones both times

[@Post_the_most]

I personally can accept the rest but this is something I hate especially when it comes to Mortimer

[@Magus魔王]

@@cozythembo I know, right? She could've have ones a little bit more stylish and it would look like a brand new Sim!

[@scottpolk8000]

I update my townies anyway. For example, I use the Eco Lifestyle pack to update Moira Fyres because it seems to fit her much better than her given outfits. I am going to have to save some of the townies before they change them to something I don't like.

[@organicstorm]

I think all current townies are already in the gallery in their "original" Form, anyway, so you don't have to worry about doing it yourself

[@theonlyenekoeneko]

Also, I saw in the start up menu they have added East Asian facial features

[@Stettafire]

They have and they look great

[@alexandragames2020]

My headcanon: Johnny Zest is either Nancy's little brother, or he's her cousin via the other Landgraabs referenced across the rest of the game.

[@lehayura]

I always surmised that it was Mr. landgrab’s son from a previous marriage before Nancy.

[@alexandragames2020]

@@lehayura This is also quite a juicy idea. I once set up a save file with the full landgraab tree from the wiki, and iirc I made Johnny Zest one of the Dudleys? It was over a year ago so I don't remember well, but he was Nancy's second cousin.

[@allison8076]

I wish that they updated all the townies in one update, or at least by world. I hate having to update every time I open my game. Maybe that's just because of my slow internet. BUT IM SO EXCITED IF FOR ANY WEREWOLVES. It gets in so well with sims AND I can finally have my Twilight dreams come true

[@AnneSidelmann]

The townies really need an update, so I´m happy that they finally get around to that. Imagine with all of the talk about werewolves, they come out with a pack with Evil unicorns. Hehe, that would be sweet.

[@kerenb14]

haha yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that it'd be a disappointment for the people who actually want werewolves, i think it'd be really funny if they hyped it for months and then released something completely different.

[@AnneSidelmann]

@@kerenb14 I mean what a way to piss people off 🤣🤣

[@stankoradosavljevic6605]

i love how the only cc kayla has is peppa pig suit and that green blob thing from hotel transylvania

[@Emma-yv1yb]

As someone who has only ever played the sims 4, this freaks me out… I’d love for them to add lore but they COMPLETELY changed Cassandra and Alexander. I will definitely go to the gallery and change them back everytime I play with them…

[@ben6217]

6.21 I actually know people who look like that Kayla. Granted they do have really bad anxiety and body issues. But they still have that body type

[@simi_xd4990]

I love how you miss her iconic hair and "found" it in formal wear, even tho that is NOT her former hairstyle ... so it couldnt have been that iconic xD

[@toxxicx]

not me waiting for her to see what alexander looks like aged up and then she doesn't

[@Juwlz]

Everyone is so excited but the Goths have been dead in my game for generations now 😂

[@kyidyl]

That line on the lamp happens on all the stuff that has like a glowing aura. The aura collides with the surface and it gets cut off.

[@fddsite11]

Hello! I would like to thank Kayla and all of you for donating to St.Jude THANK YOUUU!

[@EdenWeinberg]

Johnny Zest was the husband of my matriarch in my legacy challenge, I didn’t bother with reading his story and didn’t know he’s related to the Landgrabs basically until I got to like gen 7 or 8. But at least in my game he got to level 10 in his career, had three kids and a lot of grandchildren and great grandchildren, some of them still carry the name Zest. So he got a good life and died of old age and was buried next to his loving wife.

[@quinnmcbride9564]

I don't know how I feel about this honestly... Other than fixing the whitewashing, that's a definitive positive. But other than that I'm not sure how much I like this. Not that any of it is bad, I just don't do well with change, even in video games lol

[@AlexandraUtschig]

I never play with townies, so had no idea that Johnny Zest was related to the Landgrabs (and I've been playing since Sims 1)!

[@organicstorm]

These Landgraabs, and Johnny in particular, were not in previous games.. there are several other Malcolms, but none of them match Sims 4 Malcolm, and Sims 3 Nancy was a business woman, not a criminal, iirc, with 3's Geoffrey being a doctor too, they are simply different sims who happen to have the same names .. same with Sims 4 Calientes. They are SO far removed from their Sims 2 counterparts, i didn't want to believe they were actually supposed to be the same sims 🤮 Dina, Nina and Don Lothario were my favourite townies after the Pleasants, too. When i start a new save now, I usually just replace them with less horrible versions 😆

[@Sierrageorge135]

side note, but you look SO good in this video!! your eyes are shining and your hair is extra cute and your skin is is glowing

[@FiveSolasMap]

I don't think Johnny is Malcolm's brother. I'm pretty sure he's a cousin.

[@brittakimushroom562]

Thanks for always updating us Simsie 🥰 I wouldn’t know anything new about the game if it wasn’t for you

[@JessicasASMR]

I feel like that lamp is good for like the 100 baby challenge or something that’s about it lol

[@scottadams8202]

I don't like that they can just go in and change the game like this, I'm going to miss the iconic looks of the families that we've had since the beginning of the game.

[@pitrku175]

And that would be all. They updated 2 base game families and thats it. another duped project :D

[@LardZardd]

The Caliente's desperately need a makeover

[@thtfnkyspceprst]

Started a Goth legacy two weeks or so ago, with the old version of them. Alex became a buff astronaut and married Luna Villareal and they have a toddler son. Cassandra is a multi-instrument virtuoso, married Sergio Romeo, and they have twin daughters even though Sergio hates children lmao. Bella was a master medium and died in Bjorn Bjergsen’s pool during a party after passing out from exhaustion while swimming. And Morty is a famous author trying to write the book of life to bring her back. I’ve been loving how wholesome and loving they all are. 💚

[@Ucantreadthedoll]

Praying they do Dina and Nina next.

[@MariusBoss11458]

I hope so man. I can't believe I killed Nina after making her my Enemy. Glad I found a Version on the Gallery which looks good. The Hair she has now is iconic but I just hate the way she looks. Her face pisses me off. I've seen a lot of people use Katrina's Hair. Dunno if I'll change back to the Original hair. Dina I changed her myself. Made her a little darker. Not too much but I did. Changed that Cheesy Yellow and Gave her better Hair. And the Iconic black Dress. I think I changed a little too much. That Cake 👀

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

Cassandra looks so cute now 🥺

[@tessxpeeters16]

I actually liked them more before this refresh because their looks were so iconical

[@shmebulocck]

nah cassie’s pigtails were CRIMINAL

[@jackiecozzie4803]

they were severely whitewashed tho? also, imo Cassie was done seriously dirty by her previous look

[@Bunnybananabunny]

@@jackiecozzie4803 They could have still just changed their skintone though. The hairstyles, facial features and outfits weren't whitewashed.

[@jackiecozzie4803]

@@Bunnybananabunny I guess, but I personally do like their new looks

[@Bunnybananabunny]

@@jackiecozzie4803 I don't mind, because I usually always get rid of the townies anyway, but some things could have stayed unchanged, like Bella's hair and iconic dress. Especially Bella isnt even recognizable if you run into her in town!

[@csvidal7375]

Tiny overhaul: I think it's an overhaul because they'll update all (or most) of the townies, but it will be tiny because it is minor changes to each one.

[@LittleSam1987]

Love the lamp. It's a SAD (Seasonal affective disorder) Lamp. My mum has one for the months October - March as we don't get a lot of sunlight in the UK during that time.

[@whimsicalsimmer00934]

Does it actually help?

[@LittleSam1987]

@@whimsicalsimmer00934 It seems to. Mum is less depressed in the winter than she has been before she had the lamp. We got it for her about 5 years ago and have seen a difference. She usually uses it when she has breakfast as you don't have to look at it to be affective. As long as it is shining on your face it seems to work. We have one of the Lumie lamps. Hope this helps.

[@Stettafire]

@@whimsicalsimmer00934 the lamp itself won't do anything, but having a daylight bulb can help.

[@libbyhardel1826]

They probably waited this long because TS4 is coming to an end and they just have more time for it now. Also the likes/dislikes...they probably left them blank so WE can give them instead of having them already being there.

[@milacelestialugc]

I love how Kayla has a peppa pig costume from cc 😆lol

[@alejandrasoto521]

simsie, alexander goth was not supposed to have dark skin tone but the same as mortimer, just like TS2. bella and cassandra are okay though

[@grenesims]

i hate change but new bella looks gorgeous

[@Post_the_most]

I normally like change but hate this one lol

[@alixx8624]

I have a friend who wears the same black jeans regardless of how hot or cold it is out so mortimer makes sense to me