Game Theory: The Unsolved Lore of The Sims (Bella Goth Mystery)

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Can you believe I've never covered the Sims? Once I realized it, I knew I had to remedy that IMMEDIATELY! And what better way than to dive into the weird and wondrous LORE of the Sims universe? There is a surprising amount of lore to sift through, so today we are focusing on one of the biggest ongoing mysteries. The mystery of Bella Goth. Who is she? You are about to find out more than you could ever imagine.
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[@OverflowingWithIdeas]

FINALLY, THE SIMS THEORY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THANK YOU MATPAT!

[@elizabethixxx]

Samee

[@phoebedorsai7145]

I can't tell you how fast i clicked the notification.

[@Zeipio]

the amount of bots here

[@suganyalakshmi2633]

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa finally

[@deivisnx]

@Queen haha dead bozo

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

“Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” I’m actually dying.

[@KaytNicol3]

i lost it haha

[@paulapeterson7241]

i play as her in sims 4 🙁🙁🙁🙁👀😮‍💨😔

[@raindozer249]

Lol I couldn't stop laughing!

[@carized8852]

Rip

[@kristenholland1730]

Your just fine

[@sm0rie]

I'm surprised we haven't discussed this yet on this channel. The amount of mysterious lore is just itching to be unveiled

[@shmook28]

Agreed! Especially in the item descriptions these games are dripping with seeeecreeeets

[@ilikedairy8539]

@@shmook28 yeah I think there is a story talking about a princess and pirate love story in some of the descriptions of the items in the sims 4!

[@Deeviiouss]

Fr

[@wildflowerwingz4398]

This just make me realize how much sims 4 is missing. The og sims had so much going on that you’d never get bored.

[@coastlinexclothes]

bella is in sims 4, i was playing yesterday and the first person i saw was her

[@blew2077]

@@coastlinexclothes yes but it doesn’t add to the lore

[@coastlinexclothes]

@@blew2077 yeah ik, i just never knew that she disappeared

[@Ash2theB]

because it's a different timeline.

[@Ash2theB]

@@blew2077 Umm it actually does Strange Town

[@MissSweetie]

the calientes are truly evil, but mortimer goth really was a fool to fall for the caliente's shenanigans

[@kurukavatar5089]

I always knew my brother was in the right for blowing them up with a grill

[@alondraarrizon5472]

Literally. Like how does your wife disappear without a trace and you end up falling like an idiot for two other ladies

[@laco403]

They can send Sims into the past. It only stands to reason that they also have the means to manipulate Sims to be romantically interested in them.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

I wouldn't be surprised if they used some shady tactics to make him fall for Dina. It doesn't sound like they ever play fair.

[@laurenfaulk4637]

To be fair it’s been a whole life stage since her disappearance, he’s an elderly, depressed, broken soul.

[@1NT3RN3TBARF]

For someone that doesn’t play the sims This is probably the equivalent to watching a murder mystery

[@arandomguy8261]

Yo wtf

[@thatonetreeguy]

Bots

[@silverluna8218]

Damn I didn't know THE fresh watched matpat

[@samuelspace101]

E

[@vipprincess5770]

Yea gotta be

[@djparty4941]

Killing the maids in the sims 3 when they’d flirt with your husband was so tense. I’m so glad he found this mystery. The caliente sisters and don lotharo are suspicious

[@him6603]

who said you had to kill them? 😐

[@michaeld.jconnolly1281]

Alien Abduction was revealed when in?Sims 3 you explored the Alien home world there is Belle Goths Tombstone.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@willford55543]

@@michaeld.jconnolly1281 I mean in one of the neighborhoods in Sims 2 you can find Bella's alien body double there as well.

[@akarimonet]

I wish sims would make a scenario around finding out why and how she disappeared, I would do partake in that

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

Let's play to come.

[@moth8455]

200th like 🤪😋

[@user-bp6cg7bj7v]

knowing ea as it is they'd probably execute it horrendously

[@tomsparrow1823]

Therapist: SimPat isn't real, he can't hurt you SimPat: 👁👁🤔

[@Nhaptenkenh]

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[@discoverysmith1111]

wohutu tukiwatu'si dohusitu wa tukiweboruya, wa bawamowe tukiweboruya! tukiwanilasi naboru fewatulikijiniba. (But thats just a theory, a game theory! Thanks for watching.)

[@KemFi]

"Whenever there's a backstory, there is LOOOOOOOOOORE!",said MatPat calmly.

[@user-to8hw5vg8x]

@icecream !! weeewoooweeewooo

[@SoggyCoffeeAddict]

"Did you put your name in the goblet of fire harry?!?!?!?!!??!??!!!!!" Dumbledore said calmly

[@jan.akisa.]

why is every bot on this comment

[@_Gingi_Berri]

I love these bots claiming to lead to videos about getting rid of bots

[@Hat.]

The matpat movies vs the books

[@maiqisdonetalking1832]

"Bella disappeared without even a dag dag" made my day.

[@lolliii5477]

HEH

[@doantranvan1844]

ok

[@caseyjennings7420]

Arba guenchy, kempa halta - sims 3

[@brentus86]

I am in tears and we’re only 39 seconds in!

[@zoegarcia243]

me too i love it

[@Katie-ws8ph]

“She enjoyed many passtimes, from golf to minigolf”

[@flonet5906]

What I find very interesting is that when you play as the goth family, Cassanda has a negative memory of losing her mother. However, Mortimer has a positive memory of losing her. The sisters are aliens and Mortimer had a romantic relationship with the one of the Caliente sisters. So I think that Mortimer worked together with the Caliente sisters.

[@deadeyeguys]

im pretty sure mortimer is a knowledge sim. they always have positive memories when they or a family member get abducted by aliens. while it's suspicious, i usually chalk it up to the way the game was programmed.

[@flonet5906]

@@deadeyeguys After going back and playing the sims 2 again, I think you might be right, although i still find it suspicious that Motimer has a romantic relationship with one of the Caliente sisters.

[@deadeyeguys]

@@flonet5906 yeah i do agree w that, it's weird but it doesn't inherently mean he had anything to do with it, he's probably just a weirdo lmao. but in general tbh, as someone who knows a... bit too much about sims lore i don't agree with matpat's theory at all in general as well.

[@KNUCKLES-vl5bv]

@@deadeyeguys what's your theory?

[@Lemony123]

@@flonet5906 I wonder if Mortimer actually know about Cassandra ancestor, and that is why he actually had it.

[@helpidroppedmydignity6138]

If Matpat dived really deep in Sims lore he would have an abundance of content, especially from the older titles

[@Yayiden]

I really thought he was going to talk about strangerville tho. It might not be related to Bella Goth story but its still really intresting and might give us a lot of ideas for all of the paranormal stuff going on in this city

[@helpidroppedmydignity6138]

@@Yayiden Not just Strangerville, there's Olivia Specter, the Landgrabbs, etc.

[@booleah6357]

Sims 3 when you could cook and eat babies

[@zeroknight1311]

We might end up having a complete series of videos that could Rival the number of Minecraft theories. I'm not saying the Fnaf Theories because....that number can't be surpassed by any other series. Especially with how Fnaf theories seem to just appear on this channel.

[@M0rbidCuriositea]

Plumbella has an amazing series on the history of specific sims. I think she has several about Bella.

[@chriscomer1798]

The "she disappeared without even a dagdag" REALLY got me lol

[@NurseKortney]

Lmao me too! I started laughing hard

[@meggnogg]

Same here, not even a casual lil nose laugh but a full on belly laugh lol

[@MarieMaia445]

Caught me off guard too.😂😂😂 I've never surprised laugh before.

[@CammieCakesz]

I literally almost choked on my food when he said “ Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” in such a serious voice 😂😂 I cannot. Great detective work! Your explanation makes wayyyy more sense and you definitely cracked the case WIDE open

[@jennhernandz3912]

Well, there’s another key piece of information that you overlooked that’s very easily very early stated in this whole thing Bella was the last scene scaling that means climbing his balcony. Nobody finds that weird but me.

[@alexking1075]

She may have been climbing his balcony for personal reasons (affair) but she was abducted from said area before anything could happen

[@vexywexypoo]

Knowing the sims, she might be been trying to kill him in his sleep or something.

[@PhantomCheddar]

this could mean that the abduction took place at his house. whoever saw it saw her floating up, and misremembered it as her climbing

[@Mustafa_AhmedPGH]

@@PhantomCheddar Could be.

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

He gave her a house tour 🤣

[@AussieCassPlays]

The Caliente family name literally has the word alien in it. The Sims team were never subtle. But the Sims 4 isn’t part of the same lore universe as the rest of the franchise - Bella was never abducted in that game.

[@mineamuumaa6849]

Maybe Bella was able to change the future of her the Sims 3 kid-self by writing those books. And that's why she's still there in the Sims 4?

[@jjbarajas5341]

I mean.. Caliente just means "Hot" in Spanish. If the devs were alluding to aliens on purpose, that was a clever bilingual joke.

[@Philmccracken790]

@@jjbarajas5341 theres a lot of jokes like that in the game, it was definitely on purpose

[@AussieCassPlays]

@@jjbarajas5341 I’m positive that was the case. 🙂

[@Anti-HyperLink]

I've never even thought of that. How is that not subtle?

[@projekttaku1]

Matpat! Another mystery in the Goth family is from the Sim 3. There’s a grave in the backyard named “Lolita Goth” who died of electrocution. The texture beside her grave is more brown dirt compared to Gunther’s parents who had dark green grass, implying that she was buried recently. In addition, if you look at any of the Goth family trees, there no Lolita in sight

[@mexicafluentgamer473]

Could be a family pet

[@AutisticKittyStar]

She died before electricity was a thing, her ghost can be found ...

[@coolguy5133]

@Based Beast 😈 Bruh, put up or shut up!

[@SCPguy]

@Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

[@SCPguy]

@Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

[@broadwaybrat1986]

The fact that my sim tried to kiss Bella and she rejected her and all of a sudden Dina appeared out of nowhere and kissed my sim. They are married now and living a beautiful lesbian relationship. This is mind blowing right now…

[@zanyzz2343]

0:53 Let’s just appreciate that he said hello in Simlish.

[@CambieEverdeen]

That also makes sense why Bella’s whole family is together in the Sims 4, the alternate timeline. The timeline where her warnings from the past had worked

[@BunnyDoesArtThings]

Technically it isnt either, players just say that. Because reality the sims just never continued the lore because by sims 4 they were money hungry, ddint care about it

[@unknown60963]

Cambie, Bella escaped, she is in the Sims 4 because her warnings worked, it isn't a alternate timeline, it's just bella being smart.

[@tgamer1510]

@@BunnyDoesArtThings This just isn't true. grow up

[@astronomy7823]

@@unknown60963 No it's because Sims 4 has little to no significant lore because EA got indeed too money hungry. If she really escaped you would've had any sort of hint about it, such as Nina/Dina being locked up or some lore regarding the past. Go read Caliente's biography in Sims 4, if you still think it isn't an "alternate timeline" aka just EA being lazy then you must be high.

[@redrosey6768]

That what I think to glad someone make this comment

[@xx_robotkrew_xx1446]

I certainly wasn’t ever expecting in the 7+ years I’ve been watching the theory channels for Mat to make a theory about the SIMS, but here we are

[@blitzie66]

i was so excited to see this- been playing these games since i was a child and love the lore of them

[@blyat8832]

Then you must've actually not been watching for 7+ years like you just lied about lmao. They've done theories for way wackier and more obscure games, of course they'd do one for this one. I am guessing they just didn't know there was a big theory inside this game until recently

[@xx_robotkrew_xx1446]

@@blyat8832 no what I’m saying is that I wasn’t expecting there to be any kind of lore in the SIMS. Granted, I don’t play the sims. That’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t exactly clear

[@Human_traain]

Its fake

[@ms.fukawa-hanamura3754]

@beyond your imagination Nice nuts

[@raistlinsmith4181]

Does that mean I broke the cycle when I stole Bella from her husband changed her name and hair and killed a rich guy to live in his house and forced her to never speak to her family again? Wow I’m a hero and I didn’t even know it

[@adviththegreat5610]

I think there is something missing in the theory. Bella was last seen scaling the deck of Don's condo, but why? Was she lured there? That could be a possibility as he was dating both the sisters, they could have made him lure her to a to his condo and then sent her to past. Not only that, this would also explain why they sent Don to past, to erase any evidence. Anyways, as sims 4 was my first sims game, I used to think sims games don't really have much going in them but now after watching this I was surprised. Great video mat.

[@xavierparis2789]

I desperately want to see more Sims theories in the future. The entire “canon” has this mysterious air to it, and since it’s supposed to be a sandbox you only ever get just enough to make you wonder, so it’s always super intriguing. Creeped me out as a kid. If I recall, the Sims 2 has an entire plot when played on PSP, I wonder if that ties into anything.

[@lulaellie]

Yeah, you can spot Bella who tells you she's running away from aliens even :)

[@SkycometFallen]

Look into Olive Specter. She’s a serial killer who buried her victims in the backyard. She even has a chair to gloat from. (The sims 2)

[@justaperson4656]

The sims 2 also has lore on sims 2 ds, such as the mayor of strangetown (Honest) being murdered by a mafia man (Frankie). Iirc didn't the sims 2 psp also happen in strangetown? I remember nervous subject being dead in that game

[@TheElephantChumpkin]

Ps2 sims2 had storyline as well.

[@duskdawn1974]

Sims 2 psp had ghosts, monsters, zombies aliens, a cow cult, a robot wife, a mad scientist, bella, and a couple of other weirdos. It's so interesting maaan.

[@deku976]

"Those who knew her best would describe her as: Jowlenin, kooj, and even ravasheen" absolutely killed me

[@FredrickVonFazbearon]

Wait a minute is that, a, JOJO REFERENCE

[@CsGalaxyID]

There is more bots in this comment than the population of Texas

[@deku976]

@@CsGalaxyID sadly yes

[@flufflewarrior]

@@CsGalaxyID Right!?

[@shreyasnathani7628]

could someone explain the joke? I dont play sims.

[@celesteeeeee]

Is it just me or does that Goth family remind you of the Adams family 😂

[@doc-savage]

Isn't that the exact reference that they're based on? 🤣🤣

[@DessertDoggie]

There's only so hyped you can get about city planning" my thoughts immediately went to Annabeth Chase.

[@vi0letrei]

I used to spend hours just reading all the descriptions of everything in the sims, the writers are top tier

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

sentencing 100 kids to life in school prison

[@alpha-noob7820]

Bella was just taken to be a part of one of Graystillplays’s “experiments”, honestly a fate worse than death. But that’s just a game theory.

[@TheGudeGamer]

LMAO

[@scarxnnivs]

Made even worse if you remember Gray hasn't played the Sims in like 3 years lmao.

[@terezamatys4489]

Too bad there haven't been new videos about it lately. I miss the torture.

[@CyberBlastoise]

Alright so we're playing the only game where you can abduct someone to ruin their marriage, it's The Sims

[@_.z33._]

im convinced this is actually what happened

[@dominicstevenson8816]

Sims online and sims medieval sound like my kind of game, and I just leaned about them now.

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

Sims online is no more second life took their playershare with better economy or ecosystem

[@princeneko9103]

I'm surprised it took Game Theory this long to talk about probably one of the biggest misteries in video game history but alas, I am very happy it's finally here

[@anastasiaalex6177]

“Bella disappeared without a dag dag” im dead 😂 he isn’t wrong

[@BerryPower15]

obligatory rick roll link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@diversezebra6754]

Not as dead as Bella.....

[@justsam4321]

FINALLY. We did it simmers. We reeled in Matpat into the lore of the sims And this is only a taste of what the main Sims games have to offer

[@mystykmarigold]

1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 ,7 bots noticed, 3 of which are the same bot with the same message

[@williamedwards4151]

I like the idea that Bella got the last laugh and her efforts in the past changed the timeline and resulted in Sims 4 where Bella and her family are fine and the Caliente sisters are still stuck with Don and no longer a threat.

[@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly]

I loved the Sims as a kid, but I always kinda wished there was an option beyond sandbox play for more explicit story-driven events, etc! This is exactly the kinda background lore that I wish could have been pushed more to the forefront in a story mode of sorts!

[@Snowangel231]

You're gonna love Strangetown's backstories. I personally like Curious, Beaker and Specter household backstories. Specter family is creepy but also very sad one.

[@raxxie]

Sims 2 had the BEST lore to play with. I miss Strangetowne every day!

[@huynguyen-yb4pf]

ok

[@galicry]

honestly when i first saw this vid when it came out, i thought this was goimg to be about the ghost in the mansion u just... adopt? in sims 2

[@rena3433]

​@@raxxie oo

[@rena3433]

​@@raxxie oopoooqo

[@Dfayethegay9]

Sometimes I wonder what goes on in his head, I never thought the sims could be theorized

[@mckamy4711]

now that we know the sims 5 is coming, it'll be interesting to see how they continue the goth family story

[@nyashiahughes3829]

This actually makes alot of sense considering the sims 4 was labeled as an alternate timeline all together.

[@WorldWeave]

Sims 4 is an alternate timeline?

[@benjaminphelps561]

You know, i was just gonna ask where sims 4 would fit but that makes a lot of sense

[@holy8782]

@@WorldWeave Yep, the Sims 4 is in a completely different timeline. Hence why Bella isn't missing in it.

[@kayquinn9439]

Oh ok so the new timeline bella made

[@brandongreenland9632]

Beat me to it- I was originally going to comment this? Come to think of it, Bella's death really wasn't in vain, seeing how in the Sims 4, an "Alternate universe" to the older timeline, has its Bella alive and well, even if the Goth family overall are at different ages. If everything is correct, then that means the sisters WERE in fact thwarted by the preparations that Bella made in the past to affect the future, changing the timeline as a whole.

[@haileywheeler1397]

The amount of lore we have within the sims games is crazily abundant. If matpat did a deep dive he would have soooo many videos on his hands. I am all for matpat getting into sims lore.

[@gracewawrzynaik2411]

The sims replacing fnaf? Yes or Yes

[@So_Indecisive]

@@gracewawrzynaik2411 absolutely

[@Alevia.]

@nat2005 50+ maybe

[@JV_inthemix]

I hope there’s more lore, this itself is amazing

[@aranxtil5554]

yesssssssssssss

[@jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787]

This theory was great. And I might be biased as a huge Vinesauce fan buuut, if sims theory’s are now on the table you should look into Johnny Zest.

[@galix_c]

There’s SO MUCH sims lore to explore! I’d love more GT episodes please

[@kayaikinci9855]

I've waited for 16 years for this explanation from the creators , you are really a life saver

[@Hadalamehandle]

“Where there is backstory there is MUSIC MANNNNNN”

[@maxwellstefan8868]

Plumbella on youtube covered this same theory also and she makes a lot of other videos about Sims lore if you're interested

[@alissabeck5608]

There's also a channel called The Sims Lore that dives into the lore of all of the different sim families

[@kayaikinci9855]

@@alissabeck5608 yes, I love that channel just recently discovered that and watched all her videos

[@dazzlethestar151]

I remember hearing about the disappearance of Bella Goth and always wondered what happened to her. Glad to see MatPat trying to solve this mystery!

[@-Kyomi-]

@Тhе Fооd Тheorists 🅥 change your profile picture to make it legit🗿👍

[@samuelspace101]

E

[@angryrevolvers]

WHY IS THERE SO MANY BOTS

[@samuelspace101]

Idk

[@Dorito_King_Arkus]

WHY SO MANY BOTS!?

[@Vall..TheEmo]

this hurt my brain- I had to rewatch it 3 times to understand lol, seriously though, how can you explain a 16 year mystery in under 20 minutes, keep it going!

[@Heather_no_numbers]

Whoa, that is pretty amazing. And kind of creepy. Man, I wish i could play the Sims again. It was so fun just building houses and neighborhoods. I think i built more than the Sims themselves.

[@makaylaserniotti1474]

Wait until we tell him about how the occult sims in the sims 4 interact, werewolves especially have an absurd amount of lore

[@Oddhowl_GlitchXYT]

I love how they added werewolves, it’s a lot of my sorta style, especially when they’re anthropomorphic

[@thunderbolt64_]

theres werewolves?

[@xeoney]

I wonder if he'll be able to come up with a theory, considering most of it is already told through artifacts or in the descriptions of furniture/paintings

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

Or our dear leader

[@julia-so5jo]

As someone who had a phase where I was obsessed with Sims lore, my personal favorite explanation is the one Plumbella covers in her “Bella Goth Mystery Solved” video (not the exact title but if you search that you’ll find it). It ties everything together without having to make any leaps that are too far and explains other mysteries like the identities of Mathilde Goth and Lolita Goth (the first being a sim in the Sims 3 with seemingly no connection to the family but looking exactly like Bella, and the latter being a sim in the Goth’s graveyard not found on the family tree) and even why The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

I assume this is the old video then. Does it has the same conclusion with Mattpat? If you mind spoiling me a bit

[@trickskitauknow7744]

I'd like to say that I also like quite Plumbella's video but also without context, from your comment alone, you saying that there are no leaps then following it up with "The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe" is really funny to me.

[@julia-so5jo]

@@trickskitauknow7744 yeah lol

[@kaitlynlorentzen4375]

@@trickskitauknow7744 but the Sims 4 is an alternate universe. There is no correlation with the original lore anywhere in the fourth game. For example, Bella never disappeared, Don Lothario is a serial romantic but has no relationship with Cassandra which makes sense since she's a teen and he's a young adult. The Caliente sisters aren't even aliens and although there is still quite a lot of drama surrounding all these characters, there is no backstory suggesting that the abduction ever happened. So it's not a leap, I'm pretty sure it's canon or in reality extreme laziness on EAs part so that they didn't have to continue that storyline.

[@Philmccracken790]

@@trickskitauknow7744 it's canon that the sims 4 is in an alternate universe but the theory tries to explain why that happened, it ties everything together and even makes the sims 4 make sense with the theory

[@lulumo9229]

We need more sims theories. There's so many mysteries in the sims. Like Olive in sims 2 with the graveyard in her yard, her romance with the grim reaper and her son who was taken away and adopted by evil scientists.

[@Lil_Why]

Im so new to the backstories…. It’s blowing my mind! So much information to delve into without getting lost! This is making me fall I love all over again with sims ☺️❤️

[@HalluCat]

Bella also appears in psp version of The Sims. She walks in the small store, disoriented and not remembering anything. But she gives away her house to you. The house with a ghost maid. There is also plot line story about aliens in that game.

[@ToyotaTacomaOfficial]

Lol this is deep

[@roronoazoroa3052]

Finally I found this comment, the house is called Espiritu Estate in Paradise Place and Emily Emory is not a ghost maid, there are 2 ghost in music room and the masters bedroom

[@HalluCat]

@@roronoazoroa3052 Emily Emory is the third ghost in Espiritu Estate, which is located in Strangetown in PSP version of The Sims 2. She died in 1923.

[@roronoazoroa3052]

@@HalluCat really? So thats why she says that "there are 3 ghosts in this house" and i thought it is Bella Goth and not emily

[@galicry]

I RLY THOUGHT THIS VID WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THIS PLOTLINE WHEN I FIRST SAW IT SJDKDSND

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

“If a pair of attractive twins shows interest in you be aware it could be aliens” Thanks Matpat! I’d keep that in mind.

[@eurovianmutt]

Or the house is haunted

[@AcetonMartin]

@@BeatsBySlim2xz Bot

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

@@eurovianmutt true

[@LightPinkGamer5]

“You saved my life matpat! They almost got me” Are words that will never be said.

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

@@LightPinkGamer5 damm yea-honestly

[@RockinRoyaltyx3]

This theory has been out for a bit in the sims community. But I like how concisive and easy to follow this was compared to others who have come to the same conclusion. If you aren't a simmer it might be terribly confusing otherwise. Great video!

[@alexiasepia2740]

Matpat you have to dig deeper in sims lore! You'll find so much cool stuff, specially in the spin-offs!!

[@beble895]

if anyone's interested in a super extensive deep-dive on other sims mysteries, you should check out Plumbella's "entire history of" series!

[@julia-so5jo]

yes! the bella explanation that plumbella made a video on is by FAR my favorite explanation and the one that makes the most sense to me

[@beble895]

@@julia-so5jo I trust Plumbella’s sims lore more than anyone else’s tbh :’)

[@julia-so5jo]

@@beble895 me too lol

[@sltrskid]

buh buh buh but she's buh buh british

[@brandonevans3994]

@@sltrskid yup sorry can’t really trust their theories if their British lol

[@DittoAPokemon]

So what’s also important about lunar lakes is it’s actually in the future, ahead of sims 2. And Bella has a descendent in that world.

[@mdfanlol]

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[@heykatlin]

Please keep doing sims lore the Amount within the game is insane!

[@Catchingonlinedatersonroblox]

I love how matpat finishes theory's that have been unsolved for years in a few minutes

[@bare_bear_hands]

In TS4, Nina Caliente is almost always met on the first day you start a game. She's actively keeping tabs on everyone in town 🤔

[@MissSimone02]

It depends on where you live. Because when I start a new game in San Myshuno it's just Penny who shows up.

[@akarimonet]

@@MissSimone02 plot twist penny and Nina working together

[@MissSimone02]

@@akarimonet 😂😂😂 imagine Penny posting it to her like 200k followers is hilarious.

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[@hstochla]

The Sims 4 isn’t part of the timeline that the rest of the series is in

[@Galaxydragonpie]

It would be interesting to see matpat cover the vampire and werewolf lore. Or even digging into spellcasters. Or about some of the hidden Sims like the hermit that lives in the hidden valley and why they're there.

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

How about Jim Pickens

[@eurovianmutt]

Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing lore

[@Darke_Exelbirth]

@@MajorBaker-vz9go The lore of Pickens is a convoluted web, a mystery wrapped in a conundrum, basted in intrigue.

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

@@Darke_Exelbirth which makes it perfect for theories.

[@dylanhodgson7605]

@@Darke_Exelbirth Matpat will end up in the painting basement

[@dandelions3]

As someone who plays the sims 4, I have been blessed even though I am 3 months late

[@babymagan1993]

YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE PERSON THAT MAKES VIDEOS I AM SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS

[@nuzhatmaliat9258]

maybe bella's books in ts3 is what led to her surviving in ts4, so ts4 isnt an alternate universe but an alternate timeline. she avoided the caliente traps via reading those books and getting the hint in childhood (ts3) , so instead of settling in pleasantview where the sisters would come, the couple settled in willow creek, and she convinced mort to take writer career instead of scientist (therefore he wont invent elixir of life and the sisters wont target him). That explains why her ts3 bedroom is so unusually emo/gothic, she knew too many dark stuff for her age (her future tragedy). Not to mention, she's in secret intelligence career in ts4, which now makes more sense bc she prolly needed connections and special info to pull this whole stunt between timeliness to save herself/avoid repercussions for already changing her fate/bust the calientes for their abduction attempts bc normal law enforcement wont believe her

[@ellyhunter7252]

Yes!

[@cpt.mystic_stirling]

The plot thickens

[@alicemichaelis9468]

O.M.G!! I haven’t played Sims including Sims 4 in 1.5 years but this video and your comment makes me at least wanna continue with Goth Family lol.

[@idkbalvan6303]

but if the ts4 is an alternate timeline, how do you explain the existence of Katrina Caliente, their 'mom'? It might just be that the devs were lazy or the fact that the original creator stepped out of the franchise after EA bought it, but before ts4 Nighat Caliente had always been their mom.

[@secretlybees]

This would be cool, but the world Lunar Lakes where Bella was sent was in the future, not the past. Matpat missed that. So, the books probably weren't by her, but could actually be by Alexander Goth if his father married Dina and Alexander somehow ended up with their alien tech.

[@jewelhenson3034]

Y'know I played a Sims game on the PSP, it was from the 2 generation and the intro shows Bella running away and giving you the keys to her home. It's odd but she's terrified of the town she lives in and no longer wishes to be there. There's ghosts living in the house you receive, and lots of strange things happening. It's interesting to play to say the least.

[@FriskyFive]

I played this, I thought it was a fever dream to be honest, I was just about to ask for a theory on that😂

[@makeupbybabybear5352]

I loved the sims 2 on psp

[@CaityRaindrop]

The psp version also reveals secrets and 2 of hers are basically that she never loved mortimer and married him for money

[@athrowawayperson9990]

Unfortunately we have confirmation that the spin-off games are non-canon, iirc.

[@menolade]

I played that one too. It was really interesting especially the plotline with the robot wife and a cow cult

[@paigelee933]

MatPat and my favorite game??!! the blessing I didn’t know I needed😭

[@humanbutterfly]

I remember looking at the Caliente sisters' family tree and wondering why their dad looked normal. Such a plot never crossed my mind!

[@reposkull2550]

Now we just need matpat to breakdown the lore of the puppet combo games

[@bramvanharen689]

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@Siatkarz dont care

[@chesneywhite9334]

Also the world of games like Beware the Shadowcatcher and Man from the Window

[@pachunky]

OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D GUYS EVER COVER THE SIMS

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[@jamangel]

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@Queen haha..wait

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[@johnathanegbert9277]

You should do some videos on SPORE! It may have a whole series' worth of lore!

[@bayleebrack1852]

Gonna miss this Matt hope your happier tho

[@TimeBucks]

I'm so happy MatPat covered the Sims

[@jember258]

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[@despicableminion3259]

Ikr

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[@AkashSingh-mp3li]

Nice

[@SuperTigger2012]

“Bella disappeared without even a dagdag”….welcome to the lore of sims. I’m sooooo here for it!!! 🤩🤩

[@thaliacrafts407]

"Dag dag" means "bye bye" in Dutch and I was genuinely confused for a moment

[@SuperTigger2012]

@@thaliacrafts407 oh wow, I never knew this! I figured simlish had a bunch of languages and gibberish thrown in together lol.

[@valenciageode25]

The simish caught me by surprise.

[@ThatNoobKing]

@@SuperTigger2012 oh no So simlish is just minion speak

[@SuperTigger2012]

@@ThatNoobKing prettyyyyyyyy SIMilar lolol

[@StygianNightmare]

Fantastic work as always my guys!! Love this so so so much!

[@rominaloves]

pleaaaaaase do more sims theories !!! there is SO MUCH LORE in the games !!!

[@MikaelaKMajorHistory]

Finally MatPat! There’s so much lore in the Sims franchise. Can’t believe you haven’t covered this! (Then again, many many others already have.)

[@Iminyobasement]

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[@MikaelaKMajorHistory]

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[@Iminyobasement]

Thnx

[@eddyiguess4286]

Can you please do more Sims theories? Something about the life and history of these simulated games is really incredible with how much depth the creators put into the lore

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[@linalokir2178]

@@josephedee4808 truee

[@firenomad]

This is the best thing I have ever watched! Freaking hilarious and why Goths will always be my favorites lmao

[@museumofskulls2972]

I'd love to see more Sims theories from you guys!

[@kingofpilgrims368]

I won’t lie, I would take Bella from her house by woo-ing her and convincing her to leave Mortimer on multiple occasions. that pencil thin mustache just always made me see him as a villain 😅

[@CherryCheetah]

The Sims 2 had some wild lore - especially the Strangetown sims like Olive Specter and her graveyard garden and secret son who may or may not be the Nervous Subject (there are two of them), or the sim who married alien who abducted her father. But then there's Brandi who got pregnant with her husband after he died. So much to explore!

[@beccawiegers6454]

Not to mention Nervous subject's genes being a literal clone of the grim reaper.

[@missCaution8]

This is an amazing video. You definitely got my sub!

[@daynascalone7937]

The Sim City OG from '89 was and still is one of my favorite. Mmmmm, city planning. Love it!

[@707Honeypot]

Im so happy MatPat covered the Sims. It is one of my favorite games and I’d love for him to cover more mysteries from it, like Tragic Clowns, how magic is treated in the sims games, and other fun storylines

[@iitskyle]

Only tiny flaw here is that Alexander did actually travel to the past too! I think its in the DS game where Alexander is all grown up and married to a girl called Cecilia Goth but its set before the events of the sims franchise. So its theorised that he wrote the books in the hopes that it may change the course of events in the future and stop Bella from being abducted in the first place. Sims 4 is meant to be set on an alternate timeline which could very well be the one created due to Alexanders actions.

[@starlight4065]

This is no news to us Simmers. But unfortunately the Sims 4 is in a “alternate universe” than the other games which is disappointing. So the Goths have no story, they’re just nothing. Now where’s my Agnes Crumplebottom theory. I’m sure you’ll love that one MatPat. Or the Specter family where the old lady is a literal MURDERER

[@margaridaguerreiro802]

OMG! I just love this theory. Explains everything we'be been so eager to find out.

[@LaurenTheorist]

I love this, but I'm confused why MatPat kept mentioning that the Goths had Cassandra but forgetting poor Alex. 😂 Also, he should look into the Sims 4! It's the 'fixed' timeline.

[@urieldaboamorte]

the sims 4 is just an alternate timeline. I don't think anyone in the community considers it canon

[@Angel_principe_Art]

Yeah, the sims 4 is an alternate timeline. It goes sims 3, sims 1, and sims 2 in the original timeline

[@LaurenTheorist]

Yeah, that's why I said 'fixed'. The Goth family is together again, but I don't know if I would say this alternate reality is better or worse than the original. 🤔

[@wig.snatcher]

how about just ignoring existence of the sims 4

[@KamawnTH]

"The average humans pupil grows by 55% if they are excited" Matpat when he hears backstory in a no lore game: ⚫ ⚫

[@YooranKujara]

Sims has so so much lore

[@Yuni-ou1ll]

Lmao

[@Frostblitz96]

@Betty Laura who? Your dad?

[@unreachablesecretary]

"Backstory means looooooooooooooreeeeeee"

[@kingcrow]

catpat ✍️

[@Kat_dragon]

“Golf, to miniature golf.” Guess she’s not as open as we thought

[@nicolereadstarot]

Who in their right mind thought Sims didn't have theories and mysteries? Obviously never played for sure, that's who.

[@drei-rg9zc]

Finally! You made a theory about The Sims. This game has a lot of somewhat hidden lore in the background that I hope to see more theories like this in the future!

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[@myr996]

Bella is for sure the most known Sims Lore mistery, but there is a LOT more. There is even a channel devoted to it. I dare MatPat to uncover Lolita Goth or the hidden cloned misteries

[@utubepunk]

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[@tumblingstarmoonchild]

Lolita Goth??? 👀👀👀👀

[@nova-qs6th]

Oh what's the channel name?

[@adammorin2955]

What i want to know is how is bella goth in sims 4? Is sims 4 between 3 and 1 or after 2

[@jooniesjjk1047]

@@adammorin2955 i think EA said the sims 4 is a completely different timeline 😬

[@ZinTyPhoon]

MatPat: Thinks The Sims has no lore Anyone who's ever played a single sims game ever: "Did you even TRY looking?"

[@Thedueloquat233]

OH MY GOD MY JAW DROPPED THROUGH THIS WHOLE VIDEO

[@taylorwalker7417]

The different mechanics The Sims uses to hide lore is so fun and creative! Plus, there's some surprisingly dark/intricate stuff hidden in those games (Princess Cordelia, Greg and the Occult Wars, and Agnes Crumplebottom to name a few😨) I hope this becomes a regular go-to!

[@natara2046]

This needs more likes

[@imbetterlol1670]

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[@davidarvingumazon5024]

Biggest Lore in Sims: Player tortures Everybody~

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[@hostilebuffalo]

"there's one family in particular that's surrounded by mystery" actually a lot of them are 👀 the sims lore is a lot deeper than you'd expect

[@ravengyal]

Exactly lol look at the noobs 🥲

[@RafaelMunizYT]

the sims be having much more lore than story driven games

[@piotrwarrior557]

He needs to talk about Olive Specter in The Sims 2 and all the tombstones behind her house. (Fun fact: from her name you can make the sentence "i lOve Specter")

[@anarzchyzz]

This is probably one of the best theories I've seen based off the intro lol 🔥🔥