Game Theory: The Unsolved Lore of The Sims (Bella Goth Mystery)

[@OverflowingWithIdeas]

FINALLY, THE SIMS THEORY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! THANK YOU MATPAT!

[@elizabethixxx]

Samee

[@phoebedorsai7145]

I can't tell you how fast i clicked the notification.

[@Zeipio]

the amount of bots here

[@AvishkarIyyappan]

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa finally

[@deivisnx]

@Queen haha dead bozo

[@sm0rie]

I'm surprised we haven't discussed this yet on this channel. The amount of mysterious lore is just itching to be unveiled

[@shmook28]

Agreed! Especially in the item descriptions these games are dripping with seeeecreeeets

[@ilikedairy8539]

@@shmook28 yeah I think there is a story talking about a princess and pirate love story in some of the descriptions of the items in the sims 4!

[@Deeviiouss]

Fr

[@wildflowerwingz4398]

This just make me realize how much sims 4 is missing. The og sims had so much going on that you’d never get bored.

[@taylor.tsiavv13]

bella is in sims 4, i was playing yesterday and the first person i saw was her

[@blew2077]

@@taylor.tsiavv13 yes but it doesn’t add to the lore

[@taylor.tsiavv13]

@@blew2077 yeah ik, i just never knew that she disappeared

[@Ash2theB]

because it's a different timeline.

[@Ash2theB]

@@blew2077 Umm it actually does Strange Town

[@1NT3RN3TBARF]

For someone that doesn’t play the sims This is probably the equivalent to watching a murder mystery

[@arandomguy8261]

Yo wtf

[@thatonetreeguy]

Bots

[@silverluna8218]

Damn I didn't know THE fresh watched matpat

[@samuelspace101]

E

[@vipprincess5770]

Yea gotta be

[@MissSweetie]

the calientes are truly evil, but mortimer goth really was a fool to fall for the caliente's shenanigans

[@kurukavatar5089]

I always knew my brother was in the right for blowing them up with a grill

[@alondraarrizon5472]

Literally. Like how does your wife disappear without a trace and you end up falling like an idiot for two other ladies

[@laco403]

They can send Sims into the past. It only stands to reason that they also have the means to manipulate Sims to be romantically interested in them.

[@KeitieKalopsia]

I wouldn't be surprised if they used some shady tactics to make him fall for Dina. It doesn't sound like they ever play fair.

[@Raddgreene]

To be fair it’s been a whole life stage since her disappearance, he’s an elderly, depressed, broken soul.

[@helpidroppedmydignity6138]

If Matpat dived really deep in Sims lore he would have an abundance of content, especially from the older titles

[@Yayiden]

I really thought he was going to talk about strangerville tho. It might not be related to Bella Goth story but its still really intresting and might give us a lot of ideas for all of the paranormal stuff going on in this city

[@helpidroppedmydignity6138]

@@Yayiden Not just Strangerville, there's Olivia Specter, the Landgrabbs, etc.

[@booleah6357]

Sims 3 when you could cook and eat babies

[@zeroknight1311]

We might end up having a complete series of videos that could Rival the number of Minecraft theories. I'm not saying the Fnaf Theories because....that number can't be surpassed by any other series. Especially with how Fnaf theories seem to just appear on this channel.

[@M0rbidCuriositea]

Plumbella has an amazing series on the history of specific sims. I think she has several about Bella.

[@CambieAngel]

That also makes sense why Bella’s whole family is together in the Sims 4, the alternate timeline. The timeline where her warnings from the past had worked

[@adry91226]

i was just wondering "what about sims 4..?" but this comment really cleared things up for me lol thx

[@BunnyDoesArtThings]

Technically it isnt either, players just say that. Because reality the sims just never continued the lore because by sims 4 they were money hungry, ddint care about it

[@JahkobeV3]

Cambie, Bella escaped, she is in the Sims 4 because her warnings worked, it isn't a alternate timeline, it's just bella being smart.

[@tgamer1510]

@@BunnyDoesArtThings This just isn't true. grow up

[@astronomy7823]

@@JahkobeV3 No it's because Sims 4 has little to no significant lore because EA got indeed too money hungry. If she really escaped you would've had any sort of hint about it, such as Nina/Dina being locked up or some lore regarding the past. Go read Caliente's biography in Sims 4, if you still think it isn't an "alternate timeline" aka just EA being lazy then you must be high.

[@djparty247]

Killing the maids in the sims 3 when they’d flirt with your husband was so tense. I’m so glad he found this mystery. The caliente sisters and don lotharo are suspicious

[@idkwhatimdoing-q1l]

who said you had to kill them? 😐

[@michaeld.jconnolly1281]

Alien Abduction was revealed when in?Sims 3 you explored the Alien home world there is Belle Goths Tombstone.

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@willford55543]

@@michaeld.jconnolly1281 I mean in one of the neighborhoods in Sims 2 you can find Bella's alien body double there as well.

[@Moidoverlord]

​@@michaeld.jconnolly1281But i played in lunar lake world and i revived bella goth ghost and she was so skinny and her skin was green and her hair was yellow and her eyes was yellow too,but why she changed like that?

[@akarimonet]

I wish sims would make a scenario around finding out why and how she disappeared, I would do partake in that

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

Let's play to come.

[@moth8455]

200th like 🤪😋

[@timefortomé]

knowing ea as it is they'd probably execute it horrendously

[@yourbestpallshawn4139]

“Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” I’m actually dying.

[@KaytNicol3]

i lost it haha

[@paulapeterson7241]

i play as her in sims 4 🙁🙁🙁🙁👀😮‍💨😔

[@raindozer249]

Lol I couldn't stop laughing!

[@carized8852]

Rip

[@kristenholland1730]

Your just fine

[@KemFi]

"Whenever there's a backstory, there is LOOOOOOOOOORE!",said MatPat calmly.

[@user-to8hw5vg8x]

@icecream !! weeewoooweeewooo

[@SoggyCoffeeAddict]

"Did you put your name in the goblet of fire harry?!?!?!?!!??!??!!!!!" Dumbledore said calmly

[@jan.akisa.]

why is every bot on this comment

[@_Gingi_Berri]

I love these bots claiming to lead to videos about getting rid of bots

[@Hat.]

The matpat movies vs the books

[@williamedwards4151]

I like the idea that Bella got the last laugh and her efforts in the past changed the timeline and resulted in Sims 4 where Bella and her family are fine and the Caliente sisters are still stuck with Don and no longer a threat.

[@TomatoRuler3000]

Same!

[@jivepsilocybe993]

:0 I didn't even think about that!!!!

[@Moidoverlord]

But i played in lunar lake world and i revived bella goth ghost and she was so skinny and her skin was green and her hair was yellow and her eyes was yellow too,but why she changed like that?

[@alexelion7084]

@@Moidoverlord It's probably because she was old (the skinny part) and for the colors it's kinda a thing that in every town the ghosts follow a specific color scheme, so this is just Bella being a "victim" of the lunar lake ghost color scheme

[@xavierparis2789]

I desperately want to see more Sims theories in the future. The entire “canon” has this mysterious air to it, and since it’s supposed to be a sandbox you only ever get just enough to make you wonder, so it’s always super intriguing. Creeped me out as a kid. If I recall, the Sims 2 has an entire plot when played on PSP, I wonder if that ties into anything.

[@lulaellie]

Yeah, you can spot Bella who tells you she's running away from aliens even :)

[@SkycometAnimeVamp]

Look into Olive Specter. She’s a serial killer who buried her victims in the backyard. She even has a chair to gloat from. (The sims 2)

[@justaperson4656]

The sims 2 also has lore on sims 2 ds, such as the mayor of strangetown (Honest) being murdered by a mafia man (Frankie). Iirc didn't the sims 2 psp also happen in strangetown? I remember nervous subject being dead in that game

[@TheElephantChumpkin]

Ps2 sims2 had storyline as well.

[@duskdawn1974]

Sims 2 psp had ghosts, monsters, zombies aliens, a cow cult, a robot wife, a mad scientist, bella, and a couple of other weirdos. It's so interesting maaan.

[@AussieCassPlays]

The Caliente family name literally has the word alien in it. The Sims team were never subtle. But the Sims 4 isn’t part of the same lore universe as the rest of the franchise - Bella was never abducted in that game.

[@mineamuumaa6849]

Maybe Bella was able to change the future of her the Sims 3 kid-self by writing those books. And that's why she's still there in the Sims 4?

[@jjbarajas5341]

I mean.. Caliente just means "Hot" in Spanish. If the devs were alluding to aliens on purpose, that was a clever bilingual joke.

[@Philmccracken790]

@@jjbarajas5341 theres a lot of jokes like that in the game, it was definitely on purpose

[@AussieCassPlays]

@@jjbarajas5341 I’m positive that was the case. 🙂

[@Anti-HyperLink]

I've never even thought of that. How is that not subtle?

[@Snowangel231]

You're gonna love Strangetown's backstories. I personally like Curious, Beaker and Specter household backstories. Specter family is creepy but also very sad one.

[@raxxie]

Sims 2 had the BEST lore to play with. I miss Strangetowne every day!

[@huynguyen-yb4pf]

ok

[@galicry]

honestly when i first saw this vid when it came out, i thought this was goimg to be about the ghost in the mansion u just... adopt? in sims 2

[@rena3433]

​@@raxxie oo

[@rena3433]

​@@raxxie oopoooqo

[@tomsparrow1823]

Therapist: SimPat isn't real, he can't hurt you SimPat: 👁👁🤔

[@Nhaptenkenh]

Sul sul

[@discoverysmith1111]

wohutu tukiwatu'si dohusitu wa tukiweboruya, wa bawamowe tukiweboruya! tukiwanilasi naboru fewatulikijiniba. (But thats just a theory, a game theory! Thanks for watching.)

[@maiqisdonetalking1832]

"Bella disappeared without even a dag dag" made my day.

[@lolliii5477]

HEH

[@doantranvan1844]

ok

[@caseyjennings7420]

Arba guenchy, kempa halta - sims 3

[@brentus86]

I am in tears and we’re only 39 seconds in!

[@zoegarcia243]

me too i love it

[@julia-so5jo]

As someone who had a phase where I was obsessed with Sims lore, my personal favorite explanation is the one Plumbella covers in her “Bella Goth Mystery Solved” video (not the exact title but if you search that you’ll find it). It ties everything together without having to make any leaps that are too far and explains other mysteries like the identities of Mathilde Goth and Lolita Goth (the first being a sim in the Sims 3 with seemingly no connection to the family but looking exactly like Bella, and the latter being a sim in the Goth’s graveyard not found on the family tree) and even why The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe.

[@L16htW4rr10r]

I assume this is the old video then. Does it has the same conclusion with Mattpat? If you mind spoiling me a bit

[@trickskitauknow7744]

I'd like to say that I also like quite Plumbella's video but also without context, from your comment alone, you saying that there are no leaps then following it up with "The Sims 4 is in an alternate universe" is really funny to me.

[@julia-so5jo]

@@trickskitauknow7744 yeah lol

[@kaitlynlorentzen4375]

@@trickskitauknow7744 but the Sims 4 is an alternate universe. There is no correlation with the original lore anywhere in the fourth game. For example, Bella never disappeared, Don Lothario is a serial romantic but has no relationship with Cassandra which makes sense since she's a teen and he's a young adult. The Caliente sisters aren't even aliens and although there is still quite a lot of drama surrounding all these characters, there is no backstory suggesting that the abduction ever happened. So it's not a leap, I'm pretty sure it's canon or in reality extreme laziness on EAs part so that they didn't have to continue that storyline.

[@Philmccracken790]

@@trickskitauknow7744 it's canon that the sims 4 is in an alternate universe but the theory tries to explain why that happened, it ties everything together and even makes the sims 4 make sense with the theory

[@xx_robotkrew_xx1446]

I certainly wasn’t ever expecting in the 7+ years I’ve been watching the theory channels for Mat to make a theory about the SIMS, but here we are

[@blitzie66]

i was so excited to see this- been playing these games since i was a child and love the lore of them

[@blyat8832]

Then you must've actually not been watching for 7+ years like you just lied about lmao. They've done theories for way wackier and more obscure games, of course they'd do one for this one. I am guessing they just didn't know there was a big theory inside this game until recently

[@xx_robotkrew_xx1446]

@@blyat8832 no what I’m saying is that I wasn’t expecting there to be any kind of lore in the SIMS. Granted, I don’t play the sims. That’s what I meant. Sorry if that wasn’t exactly clear

[@Human_traain]

Its fake

[@ms.fukawa-hanamura3754]

@beyond your imagination Nice nuts

[@Katie-ws8ph]

“She enjoyed many passtimes, from golf to minigolf”

[@vi0letrei]

I used to spend hours just reading all the descriptions of everything in the sims, the writers are top tier

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

sentencing 100 kids to life in school prison

[@ProjektTaku]

Matpat! Another mystery in the Goth family is from the Sim 3. There’s a grave in the backyard named “Lolita Goth” who died of electrocution. The texture beside her grave is more brown dirt compared to Gunther’s parents who had dark green grass, implying that she was buried recently. In addition, if you look at any of the Goth family trees, there no Lolita in sight

[@mexicafluentgamer473]

Could be a family pet

[@AutisticKittyStar]

She died before electricity was a thing, her ghost can be found ...

[@coolguy5133]

@Based Beast 😈 Bruh, put up or shut up!

[@TheEverything_Man]

@Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

[@TheEverything_Man]

@Based Beast 😈 no you’re not

[@kayaikinci9855]

I've waited for 16 years for this explanation from the creators , you are really a life saver

[@XGEARGAMEX]

“Where there is backstory there is MUSIC MANNNNNN”

[@maxwellstefan8868]

Plumbella on youtube covered this same theory also and she makes a lot of other videos about Sims lore if you're interested

[@alissabeck5608]

There's also a channel called The Sims Lore that dives into the lore of all of the different sim families

[@kayaikinci9855]

@@alissabeck5608 yes, I love that channel just recently discovered that and watched all her videos

[@CammieCakesz]

I literally almost choked on my food when he said “ Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” in such a serious voice 😂😂 I cannot. Great detective work! Your explanation makes wayyyy more sense and you definitely cracked the case WIDE open

[@deku976]

"Those who knew her best would describe her as: Jowlenin, kooj, and even ravasheen" absolutely killed me

[@Lobotomy_core_Demnetia]

Wait a minute is that, a, JOJO REFERENCE

[@CsGalaxyID]

There is more bots in this comment than the population of Texas

[@deku976]

@@CsGalaxyID sadly yes

[@flufflewarrior]

@@CsGalaxyID Right!?

[@shreyasnathani7628]

could someone explain the joke? I dont play sims.

[@justsam4321]

FINALLY. We did it simmers. We reeled in Matpat into the lore of the sims And this is only a taste of what the main Sims games have to offer

[@MydniteMoonrabbit]

1, 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 ,7 bots noticed, 3 of which are the same bot with the same message

[@chriscomer1798]

The "she disappeared without even a dagdag" REALLY got me lol

[@NurseKortney]

Lmao me too! I started laughing hard

[@meggnogg]

Same here, not even a casual lil nose laugh but a full on belly laugh lol

[@MarieMaia445]

Caught me off guard too.😂😂😂 I've never surprised laugh before.

[@flonet5906]

What I find very interesting is that when you play as the goth family, Cassanda has a negative memory of losing her mother. However, Mortimer has a positive memory of losing her. The sisters are aliens and Mortimer had a romantic relationship with the one of the Caliente sisters. So I think that Mortimer worked together with the Caliente sisters.

[@deadeyeguys]

im pretty sure mortimer is a knowledge sim. they always have positive memories when they or a family member get abducted by aliens. while it's suspicious, i usually chalk it up to the way the game was programmed.

[@flonet5906]

@@deadeyeguys After going back and playing the sims 2 again, I think you might be right, although i still find it suspicious that Motimer has a romantic relationship with one of the Caliente sisters.

[@deadeyeguys]

@@flonet5906 yeah i do agree w that, it's weird but it doesn't inherently mean he had anything to do with it, he's probably just a weirdo lmao. but in general tbh, as someone who knows a... bit too much about sims lore i don't agree with matpat's theory at all in general as well.

[@KNUCKLES-vl5bv]

@@deadeyeguys what's your theory?

[@Lemony123]

@@flonet5906 I wonder if Mortimer actually know about Cassandra ancestor, and that is why he actually had it.

[@hrw0430]

The amount of lore we have within the sims games is crazily abundant. If matpat did a deep dive he would have soooo many videos on his hands. I am all for matpat getting into sims lore.

[@gracewawrzynaik2411]

The sims replacing fnaf? Yes or Yes

[@So_Indecisive]

@@gracewawrzynaik2411 absolutely

[@Alevia.]

@nat2005 50+ maybe

[@worldsdarkest]

I hope there’s more lore, this itself is amazing

[@aranxtil5554]

yesssssssssssss

[@dazzlethestar151]

I remember hearing about the disappearance of Bella Goth and always wondered what happened to her. Glad to see MatPat trying to solve this mystery!

[@-Kyomi-]

@Тhе Fооd Тheorists 🅥 change your profile picture to make it legit🗿👍

[@samuelspace101]

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[@tattoovampp]

WHY IS THERE SO MANY BOTS

[@samuelspace101]

Idk

[@Macho_Cheese]

WHY SO MANY BOTS!?

[@alpha-noob7820]

Bella was just taken to be a part of one of Graystillplays’s “experiments”, honestly a fate worse than death. But that’s just a game theory.

[@TheGudeGamer]

LMAO

[@scarxnnivs]

Made even worse if you remember Gray hasn't played the Sims in like 3 years lmao.

[@terezamatys4489]

Too bad there haven't been new videos about it lately. I miss the torture.

[@CyberBlastoise]

Alright so we're playing the only game where you can abduct someone to ruin their marriage, it's The Sims

[@_.z33._]

im convinced this is actually what happened

[@jennhernandz3912]

Well, there’s another key piece of information that you overlooked that’s very easily very early stated in this whole thing Bella was the last scene scaling that means climbing his balcony. Nobody finds that weird but me.

[@alexking1075]

She may have been climbing his balcony for personal reasons (affair) but she was abducted from said area before anything could happen

[@vexywexypoo]

Knowing the sims, she might be been trying to kill him in his sleep or something.

[@PhantomCheddar]

this could mean that the abduction took place at his house. whoever saw it saw her floating up, and misremembered it as her climbing

[@Mustafa_AhmedPGH]

@@PhantomCheddar Could be.

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

He gave her a house tour 🤣

[@beble895]

if anyone's interested in a super extensive deep-dive on other sims mysteries, you should check out Plumbella's "entire history of" series!

[@julia-so5jo]

yes! the bella explanation that plumbella made a video on is by FAR my favorite explanation and the one that makes the most sense to me

[@beble895]

@@julia-so5jo I trust Plumbella’s sims lore more than anyone else’s tbh :’)

[@julia-so5jo]

@@beble895 me too lol

[@sltrskid]

buh buh buh but she's buh buh british

[@brandonevans3994]

@@sltrskid yup sorry can’t really trust their theories if their British lol

[@HalluCat]

Bella also appears in psp version of The Sims. She walks in the small store, disoriented and not remembering anything. But she gives away her house to you. The house with a ghost maid. There is also plot line story about aliens in that game.

[@ToyotaTacomaOfficial]

Lol this is deep

[@roronoazoroa3052]

Finally I found this comment, the house is called Espiritu Estate in Paradise Place and Emily Emory is not a ghost maid, there are 2 ghost in music room and the masters bedroom

[@HalluCat]

@@roronoazoroa3052 Emily Emory is the third ghost in Espiritu Estate, which is located in Strangetown in PSP version of The Sims 2. She died in 1923.

[@roronoazoroa3052]

@@HalluCat really? So thats why she says that "there are 3 ghosts in this house" and i thought it is Bella Goth and not emily

[@galicry]

I RLY THOUGHT THIS VID WAS GONNA TOUCH ON THIS PLOTLINE WHEN I FIRST SAW IT SJDKDSND

[@nyahhugs]

This actually makes alot of sense considering the sims 4 was labeled as an alternate timeline all together.

[@WorldWeave]

Sims 4 is an alternate timeline?

[@benjaminphelps561]

You know, i was just gonna ask where sims 4 would fit but that makes a lot of sense

[@holy8782]

@@WorldWeave Yep, the Sims 4 is in a completely different timeline. Hence why Bella isn't missing in it.

[@kayquinn9439]

Oh ok so the new timeline bella made

[@brandongreenland9632]

Beat me to it- I was originally going to comment this? Come to think of it, Bella's death really wasn't in vain, seeing how in the Sims 4, an "Alternate universe" to the older timeline, has its Bella alive and well, even if the Goth family overall are at different ages. If everything is correct, then that means the sisters WERE in fact thwarted by the preparations that Bella made in the past to affect the future, changing the timeline as a whole.

[@broadwaybrat1986]

The fact that my sim tried to kiss Bella and she rejected her and all of a sudden Dina appeared out of nowhere and kissed my sim. They are married now and living a beautiful lesbian relationship. This is mind blowing right now…

[@Galaxydragonpie]

It would be interesting to see matpat cover the vampire and werewolf lore. Or even digging into spellcasters. Or about some of the hidden Sims like the hermit that lives in the hidden valley and why they're there.

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

How about Jim Pickens

[@Darke_Exelbirth]

@@MajorBaker-vz9go The lore of Pickens is a convoluted web, a mystery wrapped in a conundrum, basted in intrigue.

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

@@Darke_Exelbirth which makes it perfect for theories.

[@dylanhodgson7605]

@@Darke_Exelbirth Matpat will end up in the painting basement

[@707Honeypot]

Im so happy MatPat covered the Sims. It is one of my favorite games and I’d love for him to cover more mysteries from it, like Tragic Clowns, how magic is treated in the sims games, and other fun storylines

[@bare_bear_hands]

In TS4, Nina Caliente is almost always met on the first day you start a game. She's actively keeping tabs on everyone in town 🤔

[@MissSimone02]

It depends on where you live. Because when I start a new game in San Myshuno it's just Penny who shows up.

[@akarimonet]

@@MissSimone02 plot twist penny and Nina working together

[@MissSimone02]

@@akarimonet 😂😂😂 imagine Penny posting it to her like 200k followers is hilarious.

[@totallynotshort9170]

​@@akarimonetoogg

[@hstochla]

The Sims 4 isn’t part of the timeline that the rest of the series is in

[@0Rainfall0]

0:53 Let’s just appreciate that he said hello in Simlish.

[@KimberSpores]

And plus he's correct

[@makaylaserniotti1474]

Wait until we tell him about how the occult sims in the sims 4 interact, werewolves especially have an absurd amount of lore

[@kyazii125]

I love how they added werewolves, it’s a lot of my sorta style, especially when they’re anthropomorphic

[@thunderbolt64_]

theres werewolves?

[@xeoney]

I wonder if he'll be able to come up with a theory, considering most of it is already told through artifacts or in the descriptions of furniture/paintings

[@MajorBaker-vz9go]

Or our dear leader

[@jewelhenson3034]

Y'know I played a Sims game on the PSP, it was from the 2 generation and the intro shows Bella running away and giving you the keys to her home. It's odd but she's terrified of the town she lives in and no longer wishes to be there. There's ghosts living in the house you receive, and lots of strange things happening. It's interesting to play to say the least.

[@FriskyFive]

I played this, I thought it was a fever dream to be honest, I was just about to ask for a theory on that😂

[@makeupbybabybear5352]

I loved the sims 2 on psp

[@CaityRaindrop]

The psp version also reveals secrets and 2 of hers are basically that she never loved mortimer and married him for money

[@athrowawayperson9990]

Unfortunately we have confirmation that the spin-off games are non-canon, iirc.

[@menolade]

I played that one too. It was really interesting especially the plotline with the robot wife and a cow cult

[@DittoAPokemon]

So what’s also important about lunar lakes is it’s actually in the future, ahead of sims 2. And Bella has a descendent in that world.

[@mdfanlol]

Leave bots

[@adviththegreat5610]

I think there is something missing in the theory. Bella was last seen scaling the deck of Don's condo, but why? Was she lured there? That could be a possibility as he was dating both the sisters, they could have made him lure her to a to his condo and then sent her to past. Not only that, this would also explain why they sent Don to past, to erase any evidence. Anyways, as sims 4 was my first sims game, I used to think sims games don't really have much going in them but now after watching this I was surprised. Great video mat.

[@Moidoverlord]

But i played in lunar lake world and i revived bella goth ghost and she was so skinny and her skin was green and her hair was yellow and her eyes was yellow too,but why she changed like that?

[@nuzhatmaliat9258]

maybe bella's books in ts3 is what led to her surviving in ts4, so ts4 isnt an alternate universe but an alternate timeline. she avoided the caliente traps via reading those books and getting the hint in childhood (ts3) , so instead of settling in pleasantview where the sisters would come, the couple settled in willow creek, and she convinced mort to take writer career instead of scientist (therefore he wont invent elixir of life and the sisters wont target him). That explains why her ts3 bedroom is so unusually emo/gothic, she knew too many dark stuff for her age (her future tragedy). Not to mention, she's in secret intelligence career in ts4, which now makes more sense bc she prolly needed connections and special info to pull this whole stunt between timeliness to save herself/avoid repercussions for already changing her fate/bust the calientes for their abduction attempts bc normal law enforcement wont believe her

[@ellyhunter7252]

Yes!

[@cpt.mystic_stirling]

The plot thickens

[@alicemichaelis9468]

O.M.G!! I haven’t played Sims including Sims 4 in 1.5 years but this video and your comment makes me at least wanna continue with Goth Family lol.

[@idkbalvan6303]

but if the ts4 is an alternate timeline, how do you explain the existence of Katrina Caliente, their 'mom'? It might just be that the devs were lazy or the fact that the original creator stepped out of the franchise after EA bought it, but before ts4 Nighat Caliente had always been their mom.

[@secretlybees]

This would be cool, but the world Lunar Lakes where Bella was sent was in the future, not the past. Matpat missed that. So, the books probably weren't by her, but could actually be by Alexander Goth if his father married Dina and Alexander somehow ended up with their alien tech.

[@anastasiaalex6177]

“Bella disappeared without a dag dag” im dead 😂 he isn’t wrong

[@BerryPower15]

obligatory rick roll link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moLaZapvjMyLmbM

[@diversezebra6754]

Not as dead as Bella.....

[@eddyiguess4286]

Can you please do more Sims theories? Something about the life and history of these simulated games is really incredible with how much depth the creators put into the lore

[@imbetterlol1670]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYqzkqOXgqtmmqs Finally its here

[@IHATEGAYS-s8p]

*LINK TO THE CLIP OF YOUR DAD COMING BACK WITH THE MILK:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6DCfaSDaKiZi9U

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*LINK TO THE CLIP OF YOUR DAD COMING BACK WITH THE MILK:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6DCfaSDaKiZi9U

[@josephedee4808]

Lmao KZbin really needs to fix their bot problem.

[@linalokir2178]

@@josephedee4808 truee

[@DessertDoggie]

There's only so hyped you can get about city planning" my thoughts immediately went to Annabeth Chase.

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

“If a pair of attractive twins shows interest in you be aware it could be aliens” Thanks Matpat! I’d keep that in mind.

[@Ace1nstinct]

@@BeatsBySlim2xz Bot

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

@Jenny Shull true

[@LightPinkGamer5]

“You saved my life matpat! They almost got me” Are words that will never be said.

[@Mysteriofreeflying]

@@LightPinkGamer5 damm yea-honestly

[@Link-to-the-Smash]

@@LightPinkGamer5 yet.

[@MikaelaKMajorHistory]

Finally MatPat! There’s so much lore in the Sims franchise. Can’t believe you haven’t covered this! (Then again, many many others already have.)

[@Iminyobasement]

Bots. Bots

[@MikaelaKMajorHistory]

@@Iminyobasement I’ve reported them all

[@Iminyobasement]

Thnx

[@CherryCheetah]

The Sims 2 had some wild lore - especially the Strangetown sims like Olive Specter and her graveyard garden and secret son who may or may not be the Nervous Subject (there are two of them), or the sim who married alien who abducted her father. But then there's Brandi who got pregnant with her husband after he died. So much to explore!

[@beccawiegers6454]

Not to mention Nervous subject's genes being a literal clone of the grim reaper.

[@raistlinsmith4181]

Does that mean I broke the cycle when I stole Bella from her husband changed her name and hair and killed a rich guy to live in his house and forced her to never speak to her family again? Wow I’m a hero and I didn’t even know it

[@TimeBucks]

I'm so happy MatPat covered the Sims

[@jember258]

Horro

[@EEEEEEEE]

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[@despicableminion3259]

Ikr

[@coleslaw4892]

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[@AkashSingh-mp3li]

Nice

[@SuperTigger2012]

“Bella disappeared without even a dagdag”….welcome to the lore of sims. I’m sooooo here for it!!! 🤩🤩

[@thaliacrafts407]

"Dag dag" means "bye bye" in Dutch and I was genuinely confused for a moment

[@SuperTigger2012]

@@thaliacrafts407 oh wow, I never knew this! I figured simlish had a bunch of languages and gibberish thrown in together lol.

[@valenciageode25]

The simish caught me by surprise.

[@ThatNoobKing]

@@SuperTigger2012 oh no So simlish is just minion speak

[@SuperTigger2012]

@@ThatNoobKing prettyyyyyyyy SIMilar lolol

[@pachunky]

OH MY GOD I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D GUYS EVER COVER THE SIMS

[@bramvanharen689]

@Thank me later 🅥 SHUT UP

[@chayamo]

geez this comment section are full of bots

[@jamangel]

Fr

[@jamangel]

@Queen haha..wait

[@TheTrueKingJ]

*WARNING WARNING: BOTS DETECTED!* *PLEASE LEAVE THE PERIMETER!*

[@celesteeeeee]

Is it just me or does that Goth family remind you of the Adams family 😂

[@doc-savage]

Isn't that the exact reference that they're based on? 🤣🤣

[@Mrx-k7o]

No it’s not just you they also remind me of the adams family

[@reposkull2550]

Now we just need matpat to breakdown the lore of the puppet combo games

[@bramvanharen689]

@UCg6rH6gUCiAh6zpjxJWVzAw Are u a bot or is this just stolen?

[@bramvanharen689]

@Thank me later 🅥 like you?

[@bramvanharen689]

@im calling saul shut up

[@bramvanharen689]

@Siatkarz dont care

[@chesneywhite9334]

Also the world of games like Beware the Shadowcatcher and Man from the Window

[@taylorwalker7417]

The different mechanics The Sims uses to hide lore is so fun and creative! Plus, there's some surprisingly dark/intricate stuff hidden in those games (Princess Cordelia, Greg and the Occult Wars, and Agnes Crumplebottom to name a few😨) I hope this becomes a regular go-to!

[@Katchelina]

This needs more likes

[@imbetterlol1670]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYqzkqOXgqtmmqs Finally its here

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

Biggest Lore in Sims: Player tortures Everybody~

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

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[@iitskyle]

Only tiny flaw here is that Alexander did actually travel to the past too! I think its in the DS game where Alexander is all grown up and married to a girl called Cecilia Goth but its set before the events of the sims franchise. So its theorised that he wrote the books in the hopes that it may change the course of events in the future and stop Bella from being abducted in the first place. Sims 4 is meant to be set on an alternate timeline which could very well be the one created due to Alexanders actions.

[@dominicstevenson8816]

Sims online and sims medieval sound like my kind of game, and I just leaned about them now.

[@b3etcbooksbindersbeliefs533]

Sims online is no more second life took their playershare with better economy or ecosystem

[@drei-rg9zc]

Finally! You made a theory about The Sims. This game has a lot of somewhat hidden lore in the background that I hope to see more theories like this in the future!

[@smg4suckslmaooo658]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zl7Vm2tmobJ1sMU Finally its here after so long

[@TheTrueKingJ]

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[@hyby7478]

Congratulation my friend Bots find you comment like a home

[@Scorpiofrfr]

This is the most popular explanation to the Bella Goths disappearance. Izzyzzz actually was talking about this in her Sims 2 video.

[@smmis]

Yeah, kinda funny how this video came right after that one lol. Honestly, Izzzyzzz’s video seems to have much more research put into it

[@Tully-tittles]

Izzyzzz needs more subs 👏

[@Lost935boi]

How odd this came after

[@gloriousfern9892]

I think it would be weird if film theory just started using her videos for inspo but it seems like some very interesting timing for this theory to come out a bit after her video Still thought this breakdown was fun though

[@zumikeenan]

i immediately though of their video when i saw the title

[@nicknasty6369]

Izzzyzzz recently did a video revolving around Sims lore and Bella goth was a big part of it, the most interesting part is that when you find Bella Goth in Strangetown (Sims 2) her character model is different from the actual Bella Goth, implying that it wasn't actually Bella, but some sort of alien copy that got sent back to Strangetown

[@CaityRaindrop]

Devs confirmed it to be the same Bella, due to technical issues they couldn't just move her over(trying will cause corruption) so they recreated her and that's why she has differences.

[@tjgdddfcn]

@@CaityRaindrop didnt she like have her family tree be aliens or something (or maybe it was empty)

[@Xxurdowg1]

Plumbella covered this 3 yrs ago! Izzyzzyd vid was a great insisght

[@davidkonevky7372]

@@tjgdddfcn Her family tree in strange town is completely empty, so no, no alien stuff

[@RafaelMunizYT]

@@CaityRaindrop what if the devs are backing up the caliente twins? I don't know man, we gotta suspect even the devs

[@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly]

I loved the Sims as a kid, but I always kinda wished there was an option beyond sandbox play for more explicit story-driven events, etc! This is exactly the kinda background lore that I wish could have been pushed more to the forefront in a story mode of sorts!

[@MyLyfeThruTheLens]

There’s so much Sims lore, especially in sims 2 and 3. Like insane amounts of lore. Sims fans have been obsessed for years with the lore.

[@tarapogancev]

I'm so happy the Sims fandom is getting some love! There are plenty of mysteries to discover in the franchise~ Awesome theroy!

[@sweetnsour78]

I’m replying to this so ppl can see it Once I made my sim cook HE HATES COOKING then somthing popped up saying he might hate it and feels like he’s being controlled They are getting conscious maybe more lore in sims 5 but all I know is my sim can’t cook😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@kingofpilgrims368]

I won’t lie, I would take Bella from her house by woo-ing her and convincing her to leave Mortimer on multiple occasions. that pencil thin mustache just always made me see him as a villain 😅

[@jonathanwarrdddedcxddeecec4787]

This theory was great. And I might be biased as a huge Vinesauce fan buuut, if sims theory’s are now on the table you should look into Johnny Zest.

[@urieldaboamorte]

I highly recommend watching Marticore's "Bella Goth from game's perspective" video. She tackles the mistery by analyzing the game mechanics, how Bella is encoded.

[@myr996]

Bella is for sure the most known Sims Lore mistery, but there is a LOT more. There is even a channel devoted to it. I dare MatPat to uncover Lolita Goth or the hidden cloned misteries

[@utubepunk]

@Thank me later 🅥 F off spammer.

[@tumblingstarmoonchild]

Lolita Goth??? 👀👀👀👀

[@nova-qs6th]

Oh what's the channel name?

[@adammorin2955]

What i want to know is how is bella goth in sims 4? Is sims 4 between 3 and 1 or after 2

[@jooniesjjk1047]

@@adammorin2955 i think EA said the sims 4 is a completely different timeline 😬

[@xfakelucid6504]

Now we need a theory about Nervous Subject, Olive Specter, Operation Eternal Flame, Princess Cordelia, and Mrs. Crumplebottom

[@01kukuruza]

YES! replying so this comment gets more popular

[@KNUCKLES-vl5bv]

@@01kukuruza hi

[@Gamergirl36826]

Yes!

[@Aqua-vf3jr]

I NEED a Princess Cordelia breakdown! Her name comes up sooo much, yet she feel more like a legend then a real person (I only play 4, I don't know about previous games tho)

[@JakesoontobeJack]

Especially Mrs. Crumplebottom

[@princeneko9103]

I'm surprised it took Game Theory this long to talk about probably one of the biggest misteries in video game history but alas, I am very happy it's finally here

[@LaurenTheorist]

I love this, but I'm confused why MatPat kept mentioning that the Goths had Cassandra but forgetting poor Alex. 😂 Also, he should look into the Sims 4! It's the 'fixed' timeline.

[@urieldaboamorte]

the sims 4 is just an alternate timeline. I don't think anyone in the community considers it canon

[@Angel_principe_Art]

Yeah, the sims 4 is an alternate timeline. It goes sims 3, sims 1, and sims 2 in the original timeline

[@LaurenTheorist]

Yeah, that's why I said 'fixed'. The Goth family is together again, but I don't know if I would say this alternate reality is better or worse than the original. 🤔

[@wig.snatcher]

how about just ignoring existence of the sims 4

[@iamginger6802]

I remember playing Sims 2 as a young thing and seeing Bella wandering around in Strangetown and I freaked out.

[@TheAngelCreator2009]

I think the name is Strangetown But yeah seeing Bella in Strangetown would have freaked me out too as a child, but it does make the game more memorable !

[@OctoLily773]

I can imagine Maxis having to make a new mystery family due to MatPat here solving the story of Bella Goth.

[@roonkolos]

He didn't solve anything. This has been openly known for a few years now

[@mckamy4711]

now that we know the sims 5 is coming, it'll be interesting to see how they continue the goth family story

[@KamawnTH]

"The average humans pupil grows by 55% if they are excited" Matpat when he hears backstory in a no lore game: ⚫ ⚫

[@YooranKujara]

Sims has so so much lore

[@Yuni-ou1ll]

Lmao

[@Frostblitz96]

@Betty Laura who? Your dad?

[@unreachablesecretary]

"Backstory means looooooooooooooreeeeeee"

[@kingcrow]

catpat ✍️

[@lizzacopper1018]

I’m actually really glad Mat covered this. I wasn’t really interested and other people’s theories. But Mat always comes to save the day. 🤭

[@lotustea6806]

bro got 8 SPAM BOTS 😭

[@hostilebuffalo]

"there's one family in particular that's surrounded by mystery" actually a lot of them are 👀 the sims lore is a lot deeper than you'd expect

[@ravengyal]

Exactly lol look at the noobs 🥲

[@RafaelMunizYT]

the sims be having much more lore than story driven games

[@lulumo9229]

We need more sims theories. There's so many mysteries in the sims. Like Olive in sims 2 with the graveyard in her yard, her romance with the grim reaper and her son who was taken away and adopted by evil scientists.

[@milanger17]

I don't know if this is can be considered canon or not but in the sims 2 for psp we get to meet bella at the local gas station in strange town freaking out and desperately need a way to leave strange town because there's a ghost in her house. I don't know what to make of that, but it's an interesting information to add

[@freebriccs6134]

:0 ur rightttt!!

[@GippyHappy]

Mat: This mystery has plagued the fandom for years, what happened to Bella?!? The game: ....she's right here- Mat: WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPPENED TO HER the game: we wrote a whole thing where she says exactly what ha- Mat: I'VE CRACKED THE CASE

[@chickenmuppets6746]

he covered that bro his theory is Literally “she got abducted by aliens but more specifically these are the aliens who did it and this is what they did with her”

[@urieldaboamorte]

I love MatPat but this video was so dishonest. He just reproduced the community's consensus as if it was a new thing. "Don Lotario has always been the spotlight for fan theories, the Caliente sisters only appear sparsely. But we've done it differently!". I mean, seriously?

[@dusantrifunovic2047]

@Eluwina HOW STRONG IS YOUR DAD'S BELT?!

[@shadowx8145]

@@urieldaboamorte the comment above yours is the honest one. You're dishonest

[@GamerBoyGreen]

Tbf if they were just aliens they wouldn't be other versions of her in the previous games.

[@joshualegaspi9206]

I’m surprised he didn’t dive into the the possible child of Bella in Lunar Lakes

[@BananawithJaundice]

@user-gw7yb3nn2n Bro if u tryna scam atleast make your profile look real Edit: Bravo he placed a pfp Edit 2: Another year later but, bro deleted it lol

[@xarenanotmyrealname4134]

Call me insensitive if you want but... Now that MatPat is gone can we expect more Sims theories?

[@Br1a_luvz]

It's literally been so long since game came out but I'm so happy that you're finally talking about it

[@smg4suckslmaooo658]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zl7Vm2tmobJ1sMU Finally its here after so long

[@asyluna5593]

Saw Izzzy's video of Sims and was really intrigued by the lore. Super psyched to see MatPat's take on what happened!

[@bramvanharen689]

@Thank me later 🅥 no we didnt

[@bramvanharen689]

@𒋲⃞╰Anggelina Jolie ╯ ⃟𒋲⃝𒁍 what the heck are u saying

[@Xuhtig]

You mean he stole her theory? Lol

[@Sinistar123]

"There's only so hype you can get about city planning." I think Cities Skylines fans would disagree with you there, I have watched some really interesting videos on traffic planning from that community.

[@Clara1717]

I thougt the same😅

[@UchihaUzumakiYuki]

For real tho, I personally follow 2 Skylines exclusive youtubers but there’s a ton of them

[@Heather_no_numbers]

Whoa, that is pretty amazing. And kind of creepy. Man, I wish i could play the Sims again. It was so fun just building houses and neighborhoods. I think i built more than the Sims themselves.

[@ellie-angel9254]

The casual simlish in the intro is killing me!! In all seriousness, I'm super glad to see this theory, the sims team has always been weird (& fun) about their item and family descriptions, so seeing someone so popular trying to dive into it is great!

[@_exolite]

I remember Izzzyzzz going over this for ages in their sims 2 videos. Both of your theories were practically the same- which I love. Maybe the serial killer graveyard theory next? Love to see this!

[@SillyRobot]

gay bot

[@Fainter7]

Interesting

[@doodlebuggle]

I love izzzyzzz!! Especially the haunted PS1 video, matpat should do that!

[@Ianman258]

Yess the timing of this video is suspicious for sure...

[@TheNico2000]

not happening

[@jayemover_16]

I wonder if MatPat's going to piece together the lore of Moonwood Mill in a timeline for us next... Moonwood Mill is confusing, and although all the lore is there, I'd like it formatted in a Game Theory video so I can make sense of it.

[@actualaspienc1279]

Or Strangerville, how did the whole thing start in the first place? I know the game has you “solving the mystery” but that feels like ending the story. HOW DID IT START?

[@Vall..TheEmo]

this hurt my brain- I had to rewatch it 3 times to understand lol, seriously though, how can you explain a 16 year mystery in under 20 minutes, keep it going!

[@thedyslexicartist7381]

As a frequent simmer the absolute joy I feel rn is unmeasurable. There are so many times I wished matpat would make a theory and now here it is 😭 I'm so happy rn

[@lilyiscrazy547]

Same

[@actuallysatan236]

Literally same. I don't even care if there's no new information, like so many simmers who actually play the game have covered this to death, but I still just wanted to hear Matpat tell Bella Goths story

[@MalikaiGrey]

I suggest looking at a Spector family in the sims 3 too, they’re story seems pretty interesting

[@bayleebrack1852]

Gonna miss this Matt hope your happier tho

[@CesuraWhidden]

Lunar lakes is technically set in the future in the Sims 3, iirc. All the towns are on their own spot in the timeline, but Don was definitely sent to the past. I've been excited to see you cover this one for YEARS, and there's plenty of other Sims theories the community has tossed around as well, if you ever get around to them

[@lulaellie]

Yeah, this one was getting to me, specially because then the books don't make a lot of sense ://

[@hi-rw4nl]

Mat : *Talking about alien pregnancy* Me: *Vivid flashbacks to Dalien*

[@jessiea1783]

glad im not the only one

[@katiebrown3811]

@UCYU6wog_H4N83PnfPmnyYPw dan&philGAMES

[@Mrs._Ukraine]

This game was asking for lore for years. Finally you're talking about it.

[@CaityRaindrop]

Prob cause there's speculation of ts5 rn lol

[@piotrwarrior557]

He needs to talk about Olive Specter in The Sims 2 and all the tombstones behind her house. (Fun fact: from her name you can make the sentence "i lOve Specter")

[@IDONTKNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW]

“Bella disappeared without even a dag dag” is such a funny line😂