They're Trying To Erase Jazz From Transformers Movies

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RandomBlackGamer

RandomBlackGamer

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They're Trying To Erase Jazz From Transformers Movies. So its time to talk about how Paramount and Hasbro are trying to avoid putting Jazz in anymore live action Transformers movies. Why Jazz hasn't been put in the Transformers Movies? Look, I understand the laws of death. Like when you're dead, that's a wrap. But that law doesn't necessarily apply to Cybertronians. Just look at Megatron. He refused to die. So why couldn't our boy Jazz get revived by a cube sliver or human tech? And why hasn't he made his appearance in the newer films? Paramount literally took my boy's vehicle mode and gave it to Mirage. So what gives? The only thing I can think of is today's climate. Many of you remember how much backlash Paramount got from characters such as Skids & Mudflap. People considered them too stereotypical. And considering the fact that those two were the leading factor to the films low box office performance. Paramount probably doesn't want that heat from people who think Jazz will be similar.
A character whom similar to Optimus Prime, mandatorily needs to be presented in his own unique way. What I mean by this is that in most instances a Transformers will receive a major facelift in regards to their personality and overall design. But a robot like Jazz simply cannot be tampered with too much or he'll lose a lot of what makes him standout. It's like if the designers decided to make Optimus all Blue and you took away his iconic mouth guard, it simply would not work. Along with Optimus Prime, Jazz is the Autobot who retains most of his original Generation 1 design in the Bay film, among his iconic features, his trademark "visor", which is retractable in the movie, as well as front-chassis chest and wheel wells in his feet. Also, his transformation to vehicle mode, although in the film his alternate mode is not a Porsche 935, a similar looking model was chosen, as Jazz's alternate mode in the film is a silver/gray customized hardtop Pontiac GXP, similar to the weekend racer concept car.
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@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
After 16 years I'm really starting to believe that they're erasing this character from the movies. What do you think?
@michaelbenitez539
@michaelbenitez539 Жыл бұрын
I will admit Jazz is becoming a bit forgettable
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbenitez539 sadly that's what happens when you avoid using a character for so long.
@KaonGladiator25
@KaonGladiator25 Жыл бұрын
guess we will see in Transformers One next year
@Soalalmode
@Soalalmode Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer Hopefully 🙏 our boy jazz comes back in later future films keeping my fingers crossed 🤞
@michaelbenitez539
@michaelbenitez539 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer I will admit, Jazz wasn't really a standout character, he didn't have an outstanding moments or emotional death, he was killed off way to quickly
@cybersoldierforever
@cybersoldierforever Жыл бұрын
Jazz deserves to return.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Facts
@tekkadawn6685
@tekkadawn6685 Жыл бұрын
That Pontiac design was so clean and they just said no 😂🥺
@caf0921
@caf0921 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
@@readmyusernamecauseitssoreally there's a new continuity genius. They can bring him back...
@Acidstormstudios
@Acidstormstudios Жыл бұрын
He probably will when I'll be making Transformers movies (I'm dead serious)
@soularprimestudios5930
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
They can never erase Jazz entirely new fans and old fans will find clips of him onljne from content and realize just how unique he is....He is a legacy character that is not so easy to erase.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@jjlouie6418
@jjlouie6418 Жыл бұрын
​@@RandomBlackGamerI agree 100% as well & also about scooter mudflap those two are literally how some people act towards one another tbf
@Bam_bone
@Bam_bone Жыл бұрын
It's been along time since I've seen him in anything but i think mirage unfortunately took jazz's place. They of course could be a comedy/hype duo
@DevynTheDude14
@DevynTheDude14 Жыл бұрын
Jazz needs more spotlight. Literally the coolest transformer, has so much style and is so chill while being badass. He’d definitely become a fan favorite
@yourboyjomo4175
@yourboyjomo4175 Жыл бұрын
He already is a fan favourite, which is why idk why they don’t use him
@sambeezy007
@sambeezy007 Жыл бұрын
They should bring Silverbolt to the big screen
@spideycoolguy2178
@spideycoolguy2178 Жыл бұрын
But now people choose bumblebee, cuz he is so adorable and childish 💀💀💀
@Act0FWisdom-1
@Act0FWisdom-1 Жыл бұрын
@@spideycoolguy2178 I agree with you. I hate that bumblebee got the spotlight instead of jazz
@Starman999-11
@Starman999-11 Жыл бұрын
​@@Act0FWisdom-1same
@louisianaboyjames2660
@louisianaboyjames2660 Жыл бұрын
Jazz was pretty much the only Autobot who genuinely cared about Bumblebee in the first Transformers movie back at 2007. Remember Jazz asked about Bee when Bee was captured by Sector Seven.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Yup. He was a real day 1. You could tell he was second in command with the way he questioned Optimus on things.
@DevynTheDude14
@DevynTheDude14 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the one line he really had lol ( all the transformers in 2007 had one line ) as I got older I started to hate the bayverse as I saw the transformers become just cardboard cutouts to the humans
@cmendoza244
@cmendoza244 Жыл бұрын
He asked twice, once on the bridge and when they scan the glasses. He also doesn’t leave bee behind when he gets injured in the final battle.
@JohnSteger-qe6nb
@JohnSteger-qe6nb Жыл бұрын
They did comics based off the movies, jazz was brought back by rachet ,but he left the team to explore earth and never returned.
@jayg7704
@jayg7704 Жыл бұрын
The only time homie was done Justice was in Fall of Cybertron and I stan by that tbh. Bro was able to take on Bruticus, help out Cliftjumper in his mission and so on. While keeping him in character and such. Or his appearance in TF: Animated. Loved his portrayal there as well. While he may have followed orders due to how sentinel was going as prime, he knew that homie was wrong and took initiative and did his own thing for Optimus and the other autobots in that show in that show
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
That version of Jazz is so GOATed!
@jayg7704
@jayg7704 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer I'm saying, bro. I just wish they would put him back without him either being taken out easily or seen as some sort of racial thing like they did with Skits and Mudflap
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal Жыл бұрын
I can write a book about what characters have been left out of Transformers media. Jazz has been treated poorly not only in the films but also having been left out of ROTB and shows since 2015. At least we G1 fans got some love with both Studio Series and the Origins figure.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that they didn't make him the main Autobot character in ROTB instead of Jazz. Given the fact that it takes place in New York and makes constant references to hip hop it would've been perfect for him.
@RodimusPrimal
@RodimusPrimal Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer Jazz, Tracks, Blaster, and Raoul should have been in the film since it takes place in NYC. Missed opportunity.
@bebopknux5857
@bebopknux5857 Жыл бұрын
Honestly when mirage existed I genuinely said "Yep, that's jazz. They really took everything from him". I always wanted Jazz to return in the live action movies but when mirage took over I had to cope with the fact that if jazz was to be there *now* he'd basically have no place since it would be redundant. So i do hope he's another movie but ig if i want jazz i'll have to settle for the animated shows or comics....
@elizabethvandecoevering6042
@elizabethvandecoevering6042 Жыл бұрын
Jazz is Mirage's boss and the way they have Mirage act in Transformers: Rise of the Beasts is not what Mirage should be in a live action movie, and Mirage should be the Former Noble that he is not acting like the way Jazz do because Jazz is Jazz, and there are no other Transformers Character like Jazz.
@UrbanTheFox
@UrbanTheFox Жыл бұрын
We always have the best depiction of Jazz from Fall of Cybertron.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Still blows my mind that Troy Baker voiced him.
@DSGVegeta
@DSGVegeta Жыл бұрын
Bro soloed a WHOLE COMBINER, he's a layup for ticket sales!
@sloppnbiscuiitz
@sloppnbiscuiitz Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer*..Blows my mind they “couldn’t” find a brotha to voice him..*
@dempzei
@dempzei Жыл бұрын
I really do miss jazz he has the 10/10 design
@normanmccultureboy6492
@normanmccultureboy6492 Жыл бұрын
By far the only Bayverse bot that has a more g1 robot mode
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I loved the retractable visor too. It felt like a welcomed addition.
@normanmccultureboy6492
@normanmccultureboy6492 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer I think the only time Jazz had his visor retractable other than the live action movies was in Robots in Disguise 2015
@Metadummyvr
@Metadummyvr Жыл бұрын
ZEZZ!?!?
@reaperstalkerpeeperleviath7324
@reaperstalkerpeeperleviath7324 Жыл бұрын
I call bs Paramount and hasbro is trying to erase my favorite of character Jazz
@ignitedmotion5807
@ignitedmotion5807 Жыл бұрын
Never realized how much culture representation he has, given his original g1 actor, his literal name and his form of dance. Makes me love him even more now
@johncollins7631
@johncollins7631 Жыл бұрын
When Jazz died in the first live action movie I saw it as a weird Easter egg/callback. Jazz was the only character in that movie who didn’t die/get blown apart/destroyed in the original 1986 movie or the subsequent season 3 (bumblebee got his there). His lack of appearances in Transformers dated earlier in time, regardless of the fact bumblebee and rise of the beasts now clearly exist in their own timeline is annoying. Hopefully Jazz will make an appearance in the next one and play a more prominent role. And hopefully include an Easter egg reference to his original voice actor Benjamin “Scatman” Crothers. Though that would be almost purely for me.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Sucks that they sacrificed his vehicle mode for Mirage. I honestly have no idea what they're gonna use for Jazz once they bring him back. Giving Mirage the Porsche was a slap in the face.
@johncollins7631
@johncollins7631 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer That’s fair and true.
@joslyncarter4813
@joslyncarter4813 Жыл бұрын
Yes. He did outlive pretty much every other autobot character in the 1986 film and throughout the rest of the series. He should've been included in every single film ititeration. If there was a name issue for legal reasons, an adjustment could've been made like it was for Bumblebee being called Goldbug for several years, and a creative explanation could have been provided.
@johncollins7631
@johncollins7631 Жыл бұрын
@@joslyncarter4813 I can’t comment on the movies but I at least know the reason he stopped appearing the original cartoon is because his voice actor Benjamin Crothers passed away.
@joslyncarter4813
@joslyncarter4813 Жыл бұрын
@@johncollins7631 True. Regardless, he wasn't killed off like he was in the Bay films. His story was left open.
@SuperGodzilla2
@SuperGodzilla2 Жыл бұрын
Jazz needs more love, and not just in the movies. its been a long time since we saw him in an animated series. i mean,... He Is Second In Command Of The Autobots!!!! and he's a fun bot.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Facts! I don't understand for the life of me why they don't get this.
@SuperGodzilla2
@SuperGodzilla2 Жыл бұрын
@RandomBlackGamer he's a fan favorite. Why not bring him back? It makes no sense. Maybe next movie will Jazz it up
@derekosoriomartinez5974
@derekosoriomartinez5974 Жыл бұрын
The last good varient of Jazz we had was with Fall of Cybertron, and they ruined him in 2015 Robot’s in Disguise with the Aligned Continuity
@SuperGodzilla2
@SuperGodzilla2 Жыл бұрын
@@derekosoriomartinez5974 agreed
@optiTHOMAS
@optiTHOMAS Жыл бұрын
​@@derekosoriomartinez5974absolutely! Wish he could return. I though the new mirage was initially gonna be JAZZ! 😅
@nuhuh411
@nuhuh411 Жыл бұрын
Bruh my boy Jazz deserves better man
@normanmccultureboy6492
@normanmccultureboy6492 Жыл бұрын
Yea at least he had a new toy in the buzzworthy Bumblebee toyline with a Cybertronian vehicle mode reference to g1
@redpandafirefox9434
@redpandafirefox9434 Жыл бұрын
Paramount be lacking braincells in writing...
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792
@mohd.shaheersiddiqui6792 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@theimage7030
@theimage7030 Жыл бұрын
TF Animated Jazz voiced by Phil LaMarr is my favorite version. Would love to see him come back to voice him in the live action movies.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
That's such an underrated version of the character. Right up there with Fall of Cybertron Jazz.
@Salty-Josh
@Salty-Josh Жыл бұрын
I hope they put Jazz in the Rise of The Beasts sequel. And it would be sick to see his G1 design and form how Rise of the Beasts handeld the Autobots especially Mirage i can see them doing Jazz well since i really like his Personality
@Dhindsakarmon
@Dhindsakarmon Жыл бұрын
Seems like jazz fans in 2023 are going thru what hot shot fans went thru during 2007
@behnamhassanpoor6793
@behnamhassanpoor6793 Жыл бұрын
They can erase him from the movies as much as they want but they can't erase him from our hearts.
@elizabethvandecoevering6042
@elizabethvandecoevering6042 Жыл бұрын
In deed and their mistreatment of Jazz will continue on angrying the Fans who want Jazz as one of the Main Characters in the Transformers movies and animated series, but they choose not to have Jazz in them because they don't like Jazz at all which is why they are not having Jazz in any Transformers Live-acting Movies and in Animated series because Jazz is a freedom-loving, free-spirited Transformers Character who do things with style which makes Jazz a cool and fun character that puts a smile on our faces or get us to laugh for a bit.
@ninjamasterbuilder8675
@ninjamasterbuilder8675 Жыл бұрын
Dang poor Jazz as Optimus said after ironhide stated how "We couldn't save him" "Ohh Jazz...." now i feel bad for this Autobot You know what at least when he was here he fought Megatron and shown no fear even when Megatron was about to rip him in half
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
He went out like a true G!
@ninjamasterbuilder8675
@ninjamasterbuilder8675 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer yeah he fought and died to protect the allspark and Jazz may have died but he's got the title for being the first Autobot who didn't show fear to Megatron in the movie all the others shown fear exept Jazz before Prime came in so Jazz has that too
@SaturnsVisitor
@SaturnsVisitor Жыл бұрын
ever since i was a kid Jazz was my absolute favorite, and then he died. Then Skids and Mudflap became my favorite "Alive" Transformers, and then they disappeared. Those 3 might be gone but will forever have special places in my heart
@Zoctao
@Zoctao 3 ай бұрын
Jazz is back in the new transformers one movie 😊
@TheMainVictor
@TheMainVictor Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering the same thing, Jazz would be so cool to see return to the movies and have him be Optimus second in command for the new films, I've always thought Jazz should've been the second most popular autobot besides Optimus kinda like Starscream is to Megatron.
@mcmknc007
@mcmknc007 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they made it bumblebee
@MogusMasterSaikawa22
@MogusMasterSaikawa22 Жыл бұрын
@@EyeOnlyHaveEyes42 michael bay starscream is nothing but competent and loyal. he literally never tries to betray megatron but I guess people can keep just denying that
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D 7 ай бұрын
Jazz was the only one brave enough to hold off megatron before optimus arrived. Truly a G even till the end
@_vez
@_vez Жыл бұрын
Jazz is the best example of a character that does Culture appreciation well. Dude just likes his earth music.
@sonicguyver7445
@sonicguyver7445 3 ай бұрын
Glad he was in Transformers One. Orion Pax actually saves him from a mine collapse. And he's right at the front of the big speech Orion gives to rally everyone.
@JackORevan
@JackORevan Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Jolt: wait a sec, y’all are remembered
@drewo.127
@drewo.127 Жыл бұрын
I know Mirage is really similar to Jazz, and that introducing Jazz alongside Mirage might get confusing. But It doesn’t need to be that way! Mirage is certainly a cool dude, but he also is quite energetic in ROTB, and is certainly more like a cross between Jazz and HotShot than anything. If they introduce Jazz into the movie verse, he could be a much more chill, more serious, but still fun loving Autobot, and while he was silvery gray in the Bayverse, he could be is G1 colors of Black, White, Red and Blue in the new universe! Maybe even have a newer (or older) Porsche model as his alt mode! I know with Two Autobot Porsches with cool groovy personalities will get confusing, but if they play their cards right, and let the writers, directors, character designers, animators and VAs do their job, I feel that giving Mirage a foil in Jazz would be very very cool! A more mature but still cool reflection of Mirage’s young, careless, and flashy demeanor! They both could contrast and compliment each other! What do you think?
@Breakhammer82
@Breakhammer82 Жыл бұрын
They can coexist. Mirage may as well be like Jazz's subordinate or take on an apprenticeship role. Mirage is the younger, loudmouthed, brash, and rebellious one while Jazz is respected, calm and caring
@drewo.127
@drewo.127 Жыл бұрын
@@Breakhammer82 EXACTLY! 🤩🤩🤩
@Firegodzilla19
@Firegodzilla19 Жыл бұрын
Dang that actually sucks by boy jazz deserves better he’s my favorite autobot
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Same. Sucks that he's been on ice for so long.
@sirjthe3rd185
@sirjthe3rd185 Жыл бұрын
Jazz was always one of my favorite transformers he was just so unique to me his personality to the way he looks especially in the movie and in some of the games I find it sad that’s he hasn’t been in almost 16 years ago 😔
@SonsOfLore
@SonsOfLore Жыл бұрын
Next to Optimus Prime, my favorite is Jazz. Later in lofe becoming a musician, Jazz, and Blaster it's no wonder I gravitated to those two. Alway love Jazz.
@TheInFamousTMF
@TheInFamousTMF Жыл бұрын
Mirage is creating a Hotshot/Bumblebee situation lol
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Real talk. Its like he's another robot dressing up as "Mirage"
@ZacharyDietze
@ZacharyDietze Жыл бұрын
The simplest reason I can think of is because he is pretty much almost everyone's favorite Autobot, and having toys sold of only one other Autobot when Optimus and Bumblebee are already a big enough problem is a big no no. I'm willing to bet he was the first one to be killed in the Bayformers films for that very reason, especially when they were trying to push Bumblebee even harder than ever before. They could've easily brought him back with the Matrix for ROTF or DOTM, but they didn't. It's a shame because that would've made for a good story too. Seeing him come over the guilt of not protecting Ironhide and Ratchet who can't come back after being literally melted would have been devastating with good writing, especially since they were the ones to try and bring him back first. Seeing Jazz rip Megatron's head off and hold some of the remains from Ironhide at the end would've been poetic in a way. There's definitely still some good stuff that could be made around his character, but I guess Hasbro is afraid to make him popular again.
@joaolucasnascimentoleite2831
@joaolucasnascimentoleite2831 Жыл бұрын
They need to bring my boi back. He got done dirty in the 2007 movie and this new reboot continuity they could bring him back with a mix of his animated, 2007 and Fall of cybertron designs ( And im my opinion the Fall of cybertron version of him got that dawg in him, he took on Bruticus for crying out loud ) .
@JT-pr8mi
@JT-pr8mi Жыл бұрын
Instead of mirage in rotb we should've got jazz
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Facts. The Porsche and Jazz go hand in hand. Would've made more sense to use Jazz instead of Mirage.
@CrypticlyEncrypted
@CrypticlyEncrypted Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamerjazz wasn’t a Porsche 11
@legendxd1295
@legendxd1295 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@CrypticlyEncryptedBumblebee wasn’t a Camaro yet he is so Jazz could’ve been a Porsche 911
@NBE-02
@NBE-02 Жыл бұрын
FACTS, my disappointment was immeasurable when I found out the Porsche in the trailer of rotb wasn’t jazz
@jazzyjesterAZ
@jazzyjesterAZ Жыл бұрын
Literally what I was thinking too. I’m so upset that now that they finally have the license for Porsche, they give it to Mirage, who, like u said, could’ve been any other sports car. Jazz was always and always will be a Porsche! Anyone u ask what Jazz’s alt mode is will tell u; a Porsche. Not mirage. Bring back my boy Jazz, my fave autobot ever!!!
@MrGojira95
@MrGojira95 Жыл бұрын
Want a great take on Jazz? Look no further than the Cybertron games. War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron made Jazz an excellent and very fun character.
@mattirzzmattimuss
@mattirzzmattimuss Жыл бұрын
Skids and mudflap are the island boys
@bono496
@bono496 Жыл бұрын
Mirage's personality screamed jazz at me it feels like they just slapped the name on jazz and called it good
@apollyon3331
@apollyon3331 Жыл бұрын
Jazz would be an amazing contrast to mirage and bee in future films. Hell maybe just maybe they could even find a clever way to give jazz back his porche alt mode. Maybe in the sequel him and mirage have some banter about how jazz placed a bet on a Porsche when they were coming to earth "perhaps they scanned multiple potential alt modes while In Earth's atmosphere and communicated what they'd be so it'd be easier to find eachother In disguise" so mirage finds a new vehicle mode and there's an epic reveal of jazz rocking his old colors on his classic porche. Idk, I just want my boy jazz back bruh.
@Wreckedftfoxy
@Wreckedftfoxy 3 ай бұрын
can we talk about how in TFP, Cliffjumper was blown up, stabbed and zombified before ultimately being permanently killed
@Maximal3235
@Maximal3235 Жыл бұрын
From what I found out and personally, I think that the reason why they were not bringing Jazz back in the cinematic universe especially with this new Cinematic transformers universe is because it's not only the fear of Hasbro and Paramount repeating the same mistake that they did with skids and mudflap but mostly also because Lorenzo Di Bonaventura along with the rest of the crew are all still arguing back and forth about if this universe is a sequel to the Bay verse or a complete reboot. Lorenzo Di Bonaventura is one of the biggest reasons why The cinematic universe is in a limbo about if it's a sequel/prequel to The Bay verse or a full-on reboot, because he literally does not want to let go of the Bayhem in transformers. Someone needs to convince them to wake up and see that what the fans want is not another Bay- verse but what they want is a reboot of the transformers cinematic universe that actually pleases the newer and old transformers fans alike, not a brand new take on Michael Bay Transformers. Besides Michael Bay literally said he is tired of making Transformers movies and he wants to do something else. So for once can't Lorenzo just admit that it is a reboot and stay with it, alongside with leaving Michael Bay alone and allowing him to direct his own movies while allowing Transformers to be written and directed true Transformers fans like Travis Knight. Yes Travis Knight not Stephen Cable Jr. because Travis Knight would never allow Wheeljack to go from way look like in Bumblebee to having a Steve urkel design. In fact I saw the movie and there is no focus to his personality as Steven cable Junior implied. So he could have just renamed Wheeljack with Que just like the way just like how the Wheeljack situation was dealt with in transformers dark of the Moon, then there would have been a chance of Wheeljack coming to Earth in his true form.
@lordfury18
@lordfury18 8 ай бұрын
Jazz, Blurr, and Mirage are my favorite secondary autobots, i'm still fucking pissed that we've basically seen nothing of him in both live action and animated, besides the movie the only other thing i remember him in was the fall of cybertron game!!
@Vagrant_JJ
@Vagrant_JJ Жыл бұрын
If it's actually true that they just completely stop adding jazz, it's gonna be disappointing for me and any other fans of him and TF in general He's such a good character man, it would be a pain to find out he's not gonna be added anymore.
@TrueNomadSkies
@TrueNomadSkies 10 ай бұрын
Mirage really should have been Jazz in Rise of the Beasts. It was a hiphop movie after all. Missed opportunity was missed.
@plupster
@plupster Жыл бұрын
One of the main differences between Mirage and Jazz is Mirage is more of the hotshot kiddish type kinda like how Smokescreen was in Transformers Prime. Jazz being more of the embodiment of Cool, but other than that they are very very similar and especially after ROTB, it'll be hard to insert Jazz cuz of how it seems like Mirage may have mellowed out. I'd Love to see Jazz even if Mirage is still there cuz man is he an OG
@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE
@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE Жыл бұрын
When they did Jazz in the Transformers War for Cybertron / Fall of Cybertron games a lot more justice compared to the Movies lately. That's when something isn't right.
@dinosaurbros8908
@dinosaurbros8908 Жыл бұрын
At least Jazz survived in the Align continuity
@IndianJimmy1
@IndianJimmy1 Жыл бұрын
that aint wheeljack. thats pablo
@Ibrokemyspacebar09
@Ibrokemyspacebar09 8 ай бұрын
Jazz needs a epic comeback. I saw that he can use magnetic hands when optimus called the autobots.
@kightofprimus
@kightofprimus Жыл бұрын
I understand why some people think that the Twins are offensive, even though I don’t think that they are. From what I heard the twins are supposed to be a lot like jazz, wannabe gangsters that embrace the culture (they writers and people didn’t make that clear though). I personal love Jazz and I hope to see him come back, but due to our blindsight of the twins, Hasbro may fear that we will misunderstand that character yet again. Especially with people even thing that Jazz was offensive.
@mmrproductions3176
@mmrproductions3176 Жыл бұрын
Even though I like Mirage and he’s one of my personal favorites in these new movies, I do kind of miss Jazz :(
@jamcalx
@jamcalx Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's sucks that they keep screwing him over.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Agreed. They're throwing it in our faces at this point.
@dominickvillella8783
@dominickvillella8783 Жыл бұрын
​@@RandomBlackGamerhe got that cliffjumper treatment
@metal_fusion
@metal_fusion Жыл бұрын
@@dominickvillella8783 Cliffjumper 🤝Jazz
@CadmeanLotus
@CadmeanLotus Жыл бұрын
It annoys me how much spotlight they give Bumblebee while neglecting other characters. Jazz is one of the many characters that deserve more depictions.
@legendxd1295
@legendxd1295 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment! That’s what I’ve been saying for the longest. I’m so sick and tired of Bumblebee getting all the spotlight and badass moments when there’s other characters that the Transformers fans loved who deserves the same treatment as well. I get it Bumblebee’s a popular character, but c’mon nobody wants to see Bumblebee take up the entire movie everytime.
@mikevogler5455
@mikevogler5455 Жыл бұрын
Jazz has always been a favorite TF character of mine, especially going all the way back to the original G1 series in '84, and he, back then, voiced by the legendary Scatman Crothers (R.I.P.) but I even liked the character throughout other series/iterations later on as well. As for the '07 TF movie, the little screentime that they did give to him, and the little dialogue that he did have, I thought he was awesome, and that they also made a great choice in giving him the Pontiac Solstice as his vehicle mode. A small car, for a small bot. I still remember sitting in the theater way back in '07, and seeing him get torn in half by Megatron near the end of the film. I remember thinking, "that's all it took to take that dude out!?" And then as the movies continued on throughout the years, it made less and less sense how he could have been taken out so easily, and have not ever been able to just be put back together again, very easily it seems, too. Think back to how many times other characters were damaged 100xs worse, even some brought back from the dead (and lets not even discuss the scene from either, TF4 or TF5, when Bumblebee was actually blown apart but then reconnected himself, with no damage, whatsoever, and was all good again...as if it never even happened!). I know it's just a movie but it still never made any actual sense. Even if he had been kept around though, his vehicle mode would have had to change either way since the Pontiac manufacturer went under, and closed up shop for good, too, in '09 or '10.
@GILGAMASK5677
@GILGAMASK5677 3 ай бұрын
Seeing as his friendly please for Orion Pax to get away with the jetpack and him being the first to regnize when Pax finally gets a Cog in TF: One. Here's hoping they give him a good story on the next film 🙏🏽
@hoeysupreme9770
@hoeysupreme9770 Жыл бұрын
Bruh I been thinking bout this so much recently. I was thinking bout it. Since the twins we haven’t had jazz in anything except RID 2015. He’s such a goated character and one of the few who survived the wipe of characters of the 80’s movie. I think they’re afraid bc Jazz has similarities to a cool black guy or something, but literally who cares man. I love jazz so much and he’s such a cool ass character. Having him in FOC was amazing and I need more of that respect given.
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
ROTB would've been the perfect spot to reintroduce him to a brand new audience. Especially with how the film takes place in NY and has many references to hip hop. Total wasted opportunity.
@squidsyrup1162
@squidsyrup1162 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamerROTB as a whole felt like a missed opportunity
@derekosoriomartinez5974
@derekosoriomartinez5974 Жыл бұрын
Jazz is another one of those “Best Autobot Bro’s/ Wingman” with Hot Shot and Bumblebee, he will never be erase, he has those “Fine Tones”
@itsthecamaroguy
@itsthecamaroguy Жыл бұрын
Jazz n bumblebee are by far the best of the transformers. A spinoff of just these two kickin ass would be badass. The whole kinda prequel to the original films sets it up perfectly too.
@noahcutter9510
@noahcutter9510 8 ай бұрын
“What’s crackin lil bitches” is one of the funniest lines in the whole transformers series
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 Жыл бұрын
I was convinced Mirage in ROTB was meant to be Jazz... and in leaks of early concept drawings mirage does have a different head that looks a lot like Jazz. Theory is that Hasbro still doesnt have the rights to the name 'Jazz' so the studio changed his head and him mirage (Look at all recent toys jazz is always named 'autobot jazz' rather than just 'jazz'... this is too get away with the rights issues)
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Most definitely. I find it funny and ironic that ROTB takes place in NY and has a ton of hip hop references. That literally should've been Jazz.
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 Жыл бұрын
@@RandomBlackGamer Even the way Mirage transforms is similiar to the unique way jazz did... i forget who the video was by... but look up concept art from rotb and there you will see mirage with jazz's head in those drawings... im sure it was a rights issue and jazz eventually became mirage because of it
@nebriancoleman4704
@nebriancoleman4704 Жыл бұрын
They have had a lot of trouble with name rights over the years but they still made Mirage voiced by a white guy, wasn't even a musician either
@jaynadiah5498
@jaynadiah5498 Жыл бұрын
@@nebriancoleman4704 yes. but even so he sounded and acted a lot like jazz did.... being hip and very versed in and loving of earth culture... a lot more than any other bots. Remember how mirage acted and sounded in g1? it was very introverted... this mirage was jazz in everything but name and hologram ability.
@nebriancoleman4704
@nebriancoleman4704 Жыл бұрын
@@jaynadiah5498 oh yeah I definitely agree I was thinking that the entire movie I'm 42 so Jazz, and Blaster were definitive black Autobots to me. Even though they keep bringing up Soundwave but not his rival....1 is auto-tune in the other is a live DJ and they haven't even played off of this yet! Get the two characters the voice and do the soundtrack. We need more videos like this explaining why we love these characters!
@G1Houndeditz
@G1Houndeditz Жыл бұрын
Not even only in movies, They are trying to remove him from Shows too like the Recent show called Siege/Earthrise/Beast Kingdom WFC and (maybe) Earthspark too. Jazz is literally my Most Favourite autobot Character EVER! he is in my Best 5 Autobots list
@chadking375
@chadking375 Жыл бұрын
I like Jazz, he’s the guy who completely embraced Earth culture, in the IDW stuff he was one of the first to adopt Earth as his homeworld. It’d be a good contrast to “I wanna go home” AKA Optimus.
@KwakyWacky
@KwakyWacky Жыл бұрын
Blud went from Optimus's Second in Command in his first appearance to his last appearance being Rid 2015.
@vishnumurthysm7586
@vishnumurthysm7586 Жыл бұрын
Honestly rise of the beasts came out recently, and in there, there'd a character named mirage, who is as cool and calm as jazz. BRUH that spot in the movie should've been his.
@maze1914
@maze1914 Жыл бұрын
The completely retcon bumblebee. Anyone who saw the original 80's g1 cartoon, BB was soft and got his ass kick on a regular and always needed saving. They basically made Bumblebee Jazz and Jazz a sucker
@PrimeAnimationsOfficial
@PrimeAnimationsOfficial Жыл бұрын
Great analysis!!! Never thought about Skids and Mudfalp as a reason on why they aren't doing Jazz. It's Def a possibility which is a shame because Jazz is cool and a classic character who deserves more of a spot light. I could make a very long list of movies characters I didn't like and Skids and mudflap would be at the top sadly.
@theonlysaj
@theonlysaj Жыл бұрын
jazz is my fav bot and man you are preaching. Spitting nothing but facts about Mirage literally just being a damn near copy of jazz in ROTB but man i really hope the next movie jazz is brought in in some way... It's been too damn long since we've gotten him in live action
@conorflinn600
@conorflinn600 Жыл бұрын
I mean look at how 07s blackout is literally just vortex with a different decepticons name slapped on him
@scarletjoke9258
@scarletjoke9258 Жыл бұрын
bro jazz has always been one of my favs, along with megs which is kinda ironic but man, they gotta bring my boy back. also great video man, keep it up 🙏
@RandomBlackGamer
@RandomBlackGamer Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@ZannySlowed
@ZannySlowed Жыл бұрын
Jazz in Fall Of Cybertron (Game) is almost God level im almost invisible with that playable character
@chriscarpenter3370
@chriscarpenter3370 Жыл бұрын
I like to think sideswipe is just an upgraded jazz because they have similar personalities and silver sports car vehicle modes
@I_AM.JaMarcus
@I_AM.JaMarcus Жыл бұрын
Same with Crosshairs
@phoenyx2934
@phoenyx2934 3 ай бұрын
Jazz came back in transformers one as a side character
@ravicmegandr146
@ravicmegandr146 Жыл бұрын
Jazz is one of those characters that just has that look of lowkey swag and badassery that even to this day I hope we get to see our boi comeback and steal every scene he’s in. I’d personally love another solo transformer movie but have the main robot be Jazz and just cuz the pair would fit so well in the 90’s have him have a minicon aka Blaster.
@Acidstormstudios
@Acidstormstudios Жыл бұрын
You know what ? I LIKE Skids and Mudflap !!! I like their designs alot
@aidanshowers8366
@aidanshowers8366 Жыл бұрын
I doubt that skids and mudflap have anything to do with jazz’s lack of appearances in live action. I think it simply comes down to the fact that the team behind the recent movies had no interest in including jazz. I do think he’ll make a comeback in the movies at some point it’s just a matter of when.
@muhammadagung2934
@muhammadagung2934 Жыл бұрын
The persona bgm make it perfect🗿
@Renaldo900gamer
@Renaldo900gamer Жыл бұрын
I really love your videos and I enjoy hearing you talk about Transformers, you're an amazing KZbinr!!!❤👍
@tr.unionz_8086
@tr.unionz_8086 Жыл бұрын
Sadly they'll never get rid of jazz, i mean they can try but he will never get phased out either.
@Clift0n
@Clift0n Жыл бұрын
It really stinks that he got killed off so early bc his design was so cool and he seemed like he could have been a great and smooth autobot character similar to mirage and sideswipe. Most likely he got killed bc hasbro wanted to introduce more auto bots and make more toys. Hope we see him again in this new timeline.
@VDOTU5
@VDOTU5 Жыл бұрын
I realized the lack of my favorite Autobot even more so when you showed the 'Bumblebee' Cybertron battle scene lacking Jazz. He wasn't even in Kingdom nor (so far) Earthspark. The most agonizing part is why. Anybody working on these shows/movies, the upcoming animated movie, One, has said nothing about Jazz. Of course there are many other Cybertronians who won't be randomly brought up, but since Swindle was thought about for Earthspark, Jazz being considered should be a breeze. I'm not gonna even assume "rcsm", but he is a Cybertronian who's practically coded as Afro-American. Idk
@ghostphoenix666
@ghostphoenix666 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully if they bring back jazz in the next transformers movie, or even the one, after that, I would love for the voice actor that voiced him in the first transformers movie to voice him again
@ShadeMeadows
@ShadeMeadows Жыл бұрын
I don't think I dislike a single Cybertronian character from the movies... Much less offensive ones. 🤔 Not too big on Jazz, but I also see no reason he's not back.
@Saibot_the_Noob
@Saibot_the_Noob Жыл бұрын
I really miss Jazz, he always felt like a mix of fun and easy-going when things are going ok or to lighten the mood, but knew to take things seriously when scrap hit the fan. He was a favorite of mine in G1, Animated was new, but really well done, the Cybertron games made him a freaking GOAT, and while not my favorite design of his career, I loved seeing him in action in thr 2007 film and Game tie in (more the game but I'm biased there). Mirage was good in ROTB but between the vehicle mode, and his personality, you put it best, he's Mirage in name only, it was a perfect set up for Jazz and they missed.
@zacwatson9392
@zacwatson9392 8 ай бұрын
Like jazz needs to be in more movies than one like my autobot doesn’t deserve to die.
@spartangaming1159
@spartangaming1159 Жыл бұрын
I grew up with transformers mostly through the live action movies and I enjoyed Jazz from what I saw there. Also I’m not ashamed to admit I confused Jazz and Sideswipe when I first saw revenge of the fallen I was so confused it took me a while to realize it was a different character but hey I was young so yeah.
@ssuresh2003
@ssuresh2003 Жыл бұрын
Sideswipe watching from the corner
@speedybois5794
@speedybois5794 Жыл бұрын
#JUSTICEFORJAZZ
@ShamrockTherock
@ShamrockTherock Жыл бұрын
I may make a Transformers movie when I’m older and I am going to add jazz if I make it
@dinosaurbros8908
@dinosaurbros8908 Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉
@normanmccultureboy6492
@normanmccultureboy6492 Жыл бұрын
I would highly excited if Jazz is gonna appear in the new episodes of Transformers Earthspark
@danjjice
@danjjice 3 ай бұрын
Nah in live we loose friends & gain new ones as Optimus said . & We actually did Arcee is jazz clone .
@jazztoastghidorah6043
@jazztoastghidorah6043 Жыл бұрын
I hope they don't get rid of jazz he is my favorite transformer shoot I was named after him
@trolimw
@trolimw 8 ай бұрын
Jazz, jazz jazz he’s literally has one of the coolest robot transforming car mode evil like what is that called when you transform
@michaelbenitez539
@michaelbenitez539 Жыл бұрын
My main problem with Jazz was that he didn't feel like Optimist's First Lieutenant, he didn't give off vibes that he was the second in command, there are two characters who I think fit the First Lieutenant Role better and those are Ironhide and Sideswipe, besides Jazz himself didn't even get to have a proper battle with anyone, he gets thrown by Brawl, gets shot at by Megatron and is killed off so quickly you forget he was even dead, I would have given Jazz a more drawn out battle or an emotional death so at least we have SOMETHING to remember him as, to me, I only see Jazz as the "random Autobot who really did nothing" he isn't really that interesting of a character to me because he never really had an outstanding moment
@RC44E
@RC44E Жыл бұрын
I agree. That was not mirage.
@freeweights44
@freeweights44 Жыл бұрын
Rumor has it that jazz was originally supposed to take mirage's place ROTB, However the executives at Paramount thought that it would be taken as a racial racial stereotype: skids and mudflap.
@FerretsForever94
@FerretsForever94 Жыл бұрын
Watching the movie, I definitely got the impression he was originally meant to be Jazz. Bumblebee, Optimus, Arcee, they all clearly look like their G1/Evergreen designs and also have clear personality similarities to various incarnations of them. Mirage is the only one who doesn't. Until ROTD, Mirage has always been "old school money" in terms of personality, and he was a race car, not a porche.
@Glow-in-the-dark
@Glow-in-the-dark Жыл бұрын
Preach brother RBG. Jazz needs more love. Scatman Crothers set the tone for Jazz's personality perfectly. He wasn't trying to portray Jazz as anything else but cool and competent.
@stantelemaque5652
@stantelemaque5652 Жыл бұрын
First?
@nikokoo3737
@nikokoo3737 Жыл бұрын
I hope that we see Jazz agen soon
@matthewmilam286
@matthewmilam286 3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy so many people grew up watching South Park, but yet are offended by everything everybody is so quick to scream racism it’s pathetic
@honestmistake8167
@honestmistake8167 Жыл бұрын
Wheeljack's accent didn't really bother me that much, I've never really had a problem with hispanic or latino characters being written to have thick accents, so why would an alien robot matter? the main problem I had with "Pablo" was his head design. The rest of him was perfectly fine, I kinda liked the colors. I wouldn't have minded if they made Wheeljack's glasses fold off of his eyes to create his fins, which would have allowed them to keep their design somewhat the same while still pleasing fans of his G1-ish appearance in BB.
@Boko364
@Boko364 Жыл бұрын
He was my favourite transformer back in O7
@nottuhs5192
@nottuhs5192 Жыл бұрын
There’s a ton of ways to still introduce Jazz. Like Mirage, he will more than likely have a different vehicle form and I’m putting my bets on Muscles cars for my boi Jazz, or just another sports car it doesn’t rlly matter. Design wise they’ll more than likely need to lean into a much more buff design as opposed to Mirage’s skinnier frame, colour wise it’ll need to be his classic silver and black or less he’ll be non discernible from that of Mirage. I hope to god they continue this formula of having different Autobots be the so called companion of humans, with that said I hope Jazz will be the one for the next Transformers movie, or Cheeto’s as I’ve heard rumours saying the next movie will be more Maximal focused.
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