They Ruined This Franchise

[@760RS]

#MakeHaloGreatAgain

[@mendokzai6105]

Master Chief is coming back in Fortnite in 4 days

[@Katztatztrophe]

Erstmal einen faschistischen # liken, starke Leistung.

[@BuckTheODST]

i cant tell if this is political or not

[@navb0tactual]

Now that I can get behind

[@MasterDrDan]

MHGA!

[@frosamabingoblins]

There would be no Red VS Blue if we had to grind to earn colors.

[@nobushidono9897]

"Tucker did it."

[@Bramon83]

uh... you didnt get to choose red or blue..... soooo you kinda make their point

[@likeworks]

HES WEARING A TRAINING BRA

[@YuYuYuna_]

@@Bramon83 Damn you really don't know shit huh? He's talking about the Halo fan-made series called "Red vs Blue" where there was characters with various armor colors (of which were default in the game and you didn't have to pay money to have them) not literally red team vs blue team in Halo matchmaking.

[@strikefallgaming]

@@Bramon83 what… are you on about? Please elaborate

[@Teekay.21]

Bungie is like the forerunners, and 343 is like the covenant. They say they worship their gods creations but then misuse the creation of "Halo" for their own twisted gains as they go on their ego filled and false great journey.

[@static_bolt]

man I never thought about it but you are exactly right

[@31Rexitron57]

343 Industries more like is 343 Guilty Spark, as the studio is named after them. In the misguided attempt to preserve the Halo Rings (Halo games) they ended up betraying Master Chief (The Players), which I may add happened more than once.

[@fan_of_animation]

then i say we become the unsc and do regret regret regret

[@warrantyV0IDED]

Meanwhile the community is humanity, fighting an unwinnable battle.

[@Rope257]

@@warrantyV0IDED I dunno man, I feel like the tide is turning the last year, not that we're getting better games, but the shitty ones are failing. Which is a start at least.

[@tomtheconqerur]

The dig site leak, news about new management being no different with old management, and the treatment of the fan base makes this video aged like fine wine.

[@fissilepear7805]

Not to mention the doom x halo secret level episode that got cancelled. I can't imagine the meeting discussing this going anything other than "hey will the fans like this? They will? Alright can it, we're not doing it. Fuck 'em"

[@commander2552]

​@fissilepear7805 "they didn't like halo show. So they'll not like this. Couldn't be because we basically kicked the story to the curb and made a sci-fi trash show

[@31Rexitron57]

@@fissilepear7805It’s been like that from the start. When they making 343i they were like “You know who we should hire to make the new Halo games? Yes those guys who hate Halogames. In fact, let’s make it so thats its forbidden to contact the old developers just cus”

[@xironheadx-4590]

​@fissilepear7805 yknow secret level is supposed to be to help establishing games into a more mainstream audience with its already recognized lore. Not go into fan fic batshit crazy stories. Unless there was a crossover game of the 2 then theres no point

[@EnderGhost119]

Son this video is only two weeks old!

[@deanobeany]

That first scene... ngl I'm 35, if a group of bros start singing the halo theme I am joining in

[@codysing1223]

And everyone knows the words. Insane. 😆

[@Rope257]

36 here, you bet your ass I'm joining!

[@Hazmatguy117]

Same bro

[@PlantMan5823]

Like we’re not gonna be doing this in the retirement home in our latter years

[@0Heeroyuy01]

im going to make like Halos original Devs and head out b/c im not supporting this trash anymore, and lets face it its been trash for about a decade now

[@jacobbrown2830]

Microsoft hired people who hated halo to make halo . Bruh moment

[@takeonedaily]

Named their studio after a villain of the series. Total bruh moment.

[@Austinuztantine]

Halo 4 and its consiquences have been a disaster for the Halo community

[@FrostbiteDigital]

One of the devs came out and said that they hated guns and felt uncomfortable working on Halo... A military science fiction game...

[@Cheesecake99YearsAgo]

​@@FrostbiteDigital 😂😂😂

[@megaman37456]

@@Austinuztantine Halo 4 really isn't anywhere near as bad as Bungie purists make it out to be. Does it have problems? Yes, every Halo game does, even the good ones. BUT Halo 4 is the ONLY 343 designed Halo game that was a fully functioning game day 1 and actually built on the previous games formula, that game being Reach. Purists bitch about Halo 4 because it isn't made by Bungie, and there are some balancing issues regarding loadouts and ordinance, other than that it's a perfectly fine Halo game.

[@MasterCheeksOfficial]

The saddest part is how so many of the fans refuse to acknowledge the continuing decline & will act like the franchise is making a huge comeback because we got ONE new boring game mode after 3 months of nothing aside from the paid cosmetics that look nothing like Halo armour

[@verfallend]

Real especially after so many years of disappointment it’s almost like they don’t want better for themselves it’s sad that they settle for less and defend dogshit when they deserve better

[@biffjfk18]

Same thing happening to call of duty for the past decade

[@spike-4219]

They only had grassy plains in infinite remember the crazy areas you’d go through in the first game. Its not the same without bungie.

[@Matt.2024]

When Infinite came out I was pleasantly surprised with the armor but I also anticipated the stupid ugly armor would come later in the shop. Sadly I was right and it's just one of a bunch of reasons I tapped out of that game.

[@Austinuztantine]

I'm so tired of the toxic positivity crowd defending garbage. Its like they've been in the mud so long they've decided they'd rather live as pigs

[@ragnarok7976]

I remember taking a marketing class and being told you need a target market and "as many people as possible" is not a valid answer. Halo has taught me that the reason for this is that something that is acceptable to everyone excites no one.

[@rocstarang5747]

Same thing I picked up in school. Sustainability beats chasing an imaginary market.

[@ragnarok7976]

@rocstarang5747 100% another factor. People aren't consistent on large scales. What pleases someone pisses off someone else. Too big of an audience always means compromising to the point where everyone just says "meh".

[@rocstarang5747]

@@ragnarok7976 absolutely

[@navb0tactual]

That's a great quote on its own. "Something that is acceptable to everyone excites no one." Like put that on a shirt and ship it to -343i- Halo Studios

[@alexanderrobins7497]

"A game for everyone is a game for nobody." -Arrowhead Studios

[@FelipeNiclvs.]

Ah, corporations ruining everything for regular people once again

[@Bramon83]

they are who brought it to you so wheres the thanks dippy

[@veilmontTV]

​@@Bramon83found the boot licker

[@Benjamin-ey9jg]

I wish these corporations were genuinely incentivized by profit, because if they were they would have dropped 343 ages ago

[@FelipeNiclvs.]

@Benjamin-ey9jg they've got zero common sense

[@Babelbot2730]

@@Bramon83 found the Microsoft shill

[@MasterCheeksOfficial]

I still cringe at all the videos with titles like "343 is dead, LONG LIVE HALO STUDIOS" acting like the franchise was saved just because a few hats got swapped around within the company & they changed its name

[@verfallend]

it’s definitely just shills huffing copium there’s no way a real person genuinely thinks this name change will somehow save the franchise

[@adoniswilliamson3010]

Facts lol halo studios is literally 343 just a name change still going to put out garbage games 😒

[@TifffanyTaylor]

I don't believe these people exist. I've yet to see a single "halo studios fan/shill" self described or otherwise. Maybe I'm just not looking for em. But I'd advise you do the same. For your own sake.

[@VexArrowEye]

A thing you all seem to forget, all the management that was 343 left around 2022 or earlier. Many of the people in management now were 343 Devs or leads just a few years ago. So its a bit more than a "name change"

[@gamin9wizard945]

I've seen some users on steam actually claiming that 343 has saved Steam from some kind of "certain doom", and I couldn't have rolled my eyes any harder. Simps most certainly exist for these guys, and it's actively repulsive to read their delusional takes. Like how is 343 even supposed to relate to Steam as a platform, let alone save them from any sort of non-existent existential threat?

[@lolmasterwastaken2]

343 and me have ADHD, Unfocused, misunderstanding a lot of things, and not learning. But unlike 343 I atleast take my meds.

[@hypercalmeqc7863]

Well said

[@BreadGood_21]

Let him cook

[@istoppedcaring6209]

the problem with parents and kids having adhd, the parents were never diagnosed and refuse to accept they need medication, the kids take meds (if good ones) and see the issues, realise how much harder life is and want to be productive so they hurt themselves to find a way in a world that somehow got far harder with understanding how common this is, which also means it is another thing to discriminate on after all.

[@lolmasterwastaken2]

@istoppedcaring6209 ok.

[@rockymontanagarciamane]

damn, meds for your adhd, i completely forgot about that i probably wouldn't quickly try finishing with something else in the middle of whatever i set out to do originally so often if i had meds for it

[@abnormallylargemonkey9334]

Funny part of 343 is that they wasted time and money creating an engine for future Halo games. Then they hire contractors that barely have enough time to understand the engine.

[@Austinuztantine]

Then sack those contractors so no one in studio even knows how to run the game or especially how to bugfix, so they instead choose to laugh and mock the people pointing out bugs to them.

[@shazmodeus2795]

@@Austinuztantine and then switch engines to UE5 so they can continue hiring contractors for the lowest possible bid who barely know how to code, and then rely on Epic customer support to fix their game.

[@Ziggerzigga]

Algorithm praying on bros downfall

[@verfallend]

They hate me

[@Ziggerzigga]

@ Make it big 🙏🏻

[@SABER.DAWN.]

might b doing the opposite cuz i just found bro

[@gamingsqueaker3895]

This video going to be popping real quick trust

[@dfed324]

1k subs but 20k views and growing after 2 weeks. Bro gonna pop off. Trust.

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

I blame 343 Studios for Halo’s death. It feels like Microsoft is dancing on the franchise’s grave by rename 343 to the bland Halo Studios completely disgracing that brand name. If Marcus Leto is dead right now he’d be spinning in his grave.

[@Rope257]

Meh, right now Bungie is just as bad as 343. It's not any specific studio, it's a large chunk of the people that make them combined with the people that finance them.

[@slinkerdeer]

The Bungie that made Halo is no more. Do not compare their current day staff to back then.

[@trashjash]

​@@slinkerdeer Modern Bungie is just as terrible as 343i or Halo Studios in terms of scamming their customers. The only difference is that nuBungie has slightly more tech experience so their "game" runs better than the crap 343i pumps out.

[@thekleanupkrew8381]

Honestly, give halo to Saber Interactive. With how much effort they put into making sure Space Marine 2 as lore accurate as possible, and there’s ex halo MP devs on the team, I’d say that’s our best choice to get a real halo experience back. Not even current day bungie could do it right I fear

[@alexanderrobins7497]

ID Software, Certain Affinity, and/or Arrowhead Studios would be good picks too.

[@thejunglecommando]

Gonna be honest, from Star Wars to Halo and other series I’ve been disappointed until I got into 40k, best decision ever

[@maineiacman]

Current day Bungie doesn't even deserve to be called that. They are trash these days with no OG talent left.

[@JuiceboxCE]

@@alexanderrobins7497 I'll always advocate for ID getting a crack at Halo, with the respect they give for the originals. They always elevate Doom in a way that has been trying to truly live up to the DOOM name, and not just overhaul it for some internal Microsoft employee to feel happy about it. They had the wisdom to scrap their Halo 5 equivalent, the original Doom 4 pitch. They're a wiser group :)

[@a.p.3192]

It all went wrong with the seventh gen. During the golden age (early 2000s to early 2010s) videogames began mainstream and everyone understood how much money this industry could generate. Then the corporate greed started to slowly infect the media, wich lead to a lot of developers being lazy, unoriginal and having an overall lack of passion that was also combined to a general misunderstanding of what gamers want. Of course it s not all bad, there are still some amazing games but it s undeniable that most of AAA gaming got worse.

[@verfallend]

couldn't agree more but im hopeful for the future because the tide seems to be shifting back towards actual good games being made again thanks the years of backlash from the community and people finally realizing good games will make more money and it seems devs and publishes are finally starting to get their heads out of their asses

[@yoturaliaz6205]

imo corporate greed wouldnt hav affected gaming as much if it werent games being expensive as hell to make

[@bluetoad6848]

Things usually deteriorate once they become mainstream. We saw it happen to TV and movies, now it's happening to gaming, or really, it's been happening to gaming. I like to call it Mainstream Syndrome.

[@zippo71111]

Pretty accurate. The earlier games felt like they had passion behind them and a goal. Later it turned into a bunch of ideas from other games and completely lost that charm that it was built on. More bland locations and less appealing art style. I personally was no fan of the soundtracks from halo 4 and onward, sure there were a few good ones but it felt more like watching a movie and thus a bit forgettable.

[@alexschneider8494]

The consumers are mostly to blame though. Let’s be honest. Call of Duty wouldn’t be selling rubber duck operators in their shop and pushing SBMM on everyone to optimize player retention if the consumers demonstrated some basic self control and pride

[@UlfOdinnson]

I used to be a dedicated Xbox fan because of Halo. I'm 25 years old, and Halo CE was the first video game I ever played. Its music and story immersed me completely, becoming my obsession for most of my life. I know the names of all the species of aliens in Halo! From the Sangheili (Elites) to the Kig-Yar (Jackals), the Unggoy (Grunts), and even the Lekgolo (Hunters), it's all part of the rich lore that made Halo so captivating. I played every Halo from CE to Infinite. However, after Reach, every game felt like a flop. I was super excited for Halo 4 and even asked my parents to get me the Xbox 360 Halo 4 Edition for Christmas. I played it to death, but it wasn't as complete as Reach-it felt different. So much was missing: multiplayer game modes, the art style was completely different and felt like a different universe, the rank systems and loadout system were reminiscent of Black Ops II, and the story was disappointing. Then came another flop, Halo 5, with its subpar multiplayer and loot boxes, and a story that was forgettable. Halo 4 had at least decent gunplay, but Halo 5 felt like a Chinese knockoff of Destiny mixed with Black Ops III. They tried to reset with Halo Infinite, promising to return to the classic art style, add split-screen, and do everything right. But they failed by releasing Halo: The Store Beta with only two game modes and 10 skin packs, each costing $10. Microsoft messed up by giving Halo to 343 Industries, and now they are about to press the reset button again. Rebranding to Halo Studios won't undo their mistakes. They created the Halo TV show and sold Master Chief like a cheap commodity. They killed our nostalgia and dreams, misused the mantle of responsibility, and are not worthy. Halo Studios is a joke and doesn't deserve our attention or money. Their constant missteps and inability to understand what made Halo great in the first place have driven away loyal fans. The franchise has become a shadow of its former self under their management. I bought a PS5 against all my friends' wishes, being an Xbox fan through and through. But I saw a trailer that inspired hope in my heart, and that trailer was for Helldivers II. It had a different name but carried the same spirit Halo once did, so I had to try it. I haven't touched my Xbox since Helldivers II was released. Xbox increased the Game Pass subscription fee and keeps releasing mediocre games. I don't feel they deserve my money, and with how they're handling consoles, it doesn't seem like my money would be well invested in an Xbox either. Helldivers II is available on PS5 and PC. It's made by developers who actively communicate with the community through Discord, accept their mistakes, and give back to the community. They are real players making a fun game that is worth every penny. Helldivers II is an adrenaline rush! The cooperative gameplay, intense battles against hordes of enemies, and the use of powerful Stratagems make every mission an exciting challenge. The game's humor and unique blend of strategy and chaos keep things fresh and entertaining. Plus, Arrowhead Studios has gone above and beyond for their fans. They've incorporated fan-created lore into the game, held engaging Twitch events, and even received a life-sized statue from Sony to celebrate their achievements. They also regularly release videos featuring their head developers and CEO, reminiscent of Bungie back when they made Halo 2 and Halo 3, showcasing their commitment and passion for the game. If you want to play a game today that feels like Halo, you should try Helldivers II. It has the fun multiplayer that Halo had back in the day and offers something fresh and innovative. Put your money where it's going to be well invested-support developers who truly care about their community and their games. #makehalogreataagain

[@verfallend]

Nothing but truth in this comment brother and you convinced me to try helldivers I’ve been meaning to do it for a while now but i had no idea the devs were that based

[@jasaiahacevedo7689]

Only reason i bought a series x was stalker 2 and arma reforger and also xbox gamepass

[@thejunglecommando]

@@jasaiahacevedo7689only reason why I ain’t on PS5 is because almost all my friends have it

[@awesom6588]

Helldivers does kind of approximate the halo multiplayer experience, but it’s new, it’s like horde mode on odst or something. Imagine a halo game like that.

[@shadowninja1275]

I left Halo infinite and moved on to Warhammer 40k Space Marine 2 and I ENJOYED IT! I can actually customize/color my armor again just like from the old Halo games!

[@MastaChafa]

28:38 the irony is that the cutscenes were made by Blur Studios, an independen contractor of 343.

[@verfallend]

thats hilarious i didn't even know that

[@ambrosianapier7545]

The forerunners will always be ancient humans for me, even the term forerunner is another word for ancestor

[@Kizuki-0117]

Finally, someone who gets it. For me, the fact 343 made them from ancient humans to a totally different humanoid species still baffles me by the bunch. Their facial structure didn't make sense, their hands had 6 fingers (technically 5 fingers and a single thumb, however you put it), and thought it sounds neat, it doesn't make sense if we refer back to the original lore. This was(is), by far, the first of the worst retcons of story writing in Halo history. It was so bad to the point that I personally started a passion project with a buddy of mine that fixes that problem. But even then, 343 and whoever else is responsible up there will most likely see it as a fan-made alternate universe (which it is). I hope that one day, a true Halo fan or even an Indie group that prioritizes the fans over profit will make the Halo game we deserve.

[@ambrosianapier7545]

@@Kizuki-0117 exactly the covenant war even makes more sense with forenners as ancient humans, the reason the prophets wanted us dead because one of the ai they had kept calling human worlds forerunner worlds, and they religion wouldn't work if their gods were still alive so they wanted us dead to cover up that fact. It also why the tech was so intuitive to human touch. The original trilogy is the cannon for me the games after, nah. Halo 3 is the end of the story. Forward unto Dawn was good, and a few episodes from halo legends were too, heck i would watch a movie based on the premise of The babysitter, would be awesome.

[@Kizuki-0117]

@@ambrosianapier7545 Agreed

[@zachrohler1047]

​@@ambrosianapier7545dont forget odst. Reach was pretty good too.

[@Googaliemoogalie]

@@Kizuki-0117 I REALLY don't like 343's take on anything Halo. Halo5 is the biggest disappointment in a game I've experienced. But the Forerunners looking like they do makes sense to me. Think of how the environment changes life forms, why would humans on another planet for thousands if not millions of years look like the humans that have existed on Earth for hundreds of thousands of years? Humans from multiple different regions on our one planet look slightly different. the forerunners should just have identical DNA. but could look completely different because of their environment and adaptations and evolution.

[@GermanPepe69]

0:15 it’s as if a chorus of angels, descended upon the earth…we wept…

[@SilverKnightPCs]

Were you blinded by its majesty?

[@Kizuki-0117]

​@@SilverKnightPCs Blinded?

[@MrKillerduck3]

@@Kizuki-0117 Paralyzed dumbstruck?

[@Kizuki-0117]

@@MrKillerduck3 No.

[@QuigDog]

I never get the pattern of: take established IP, make a half-baked game, monetise it as much as possible, say future updates will add to/fix the game, updates take ages, player retention dips massively and then the company is shocked at the result.

[@mayomaster1134]

Thats the biggest problem. It’d be one thing if Microsoft’s / 343’s / Halo Studios’ treatment of this franchise ACTUALLY yielded more profits and success in the long run but I don’t even see that. All I see is a franchise that went from an industry and cultural titan with nearly a generation in its grasp to a practically niche franchise that no one really talks aboutm. Halo Infinite supposedly had hundreds of millions sunk into it and for what? Barebones returns and zero community / player retention? It would be one thing if they sacrificed this franchise’s quality for greater profits, but it seems like they failed at even that. It was sacrificed for nothing at all

[@NotNykoh]

The goal is to ruin the game and lower your expectations, wait a couple of years and bring back a reboot to rip you off after you forget about it

[@leftkinger]

Original Halos took the whole sandbox and polished it and balanced it as a whole. Then they added a secondary layer of balance by creating separate playlists with unique map sets. You want casual, you play social, you want competitive, play ranked, you want ultra competitive, play MLG. It also incentivized you to play other playlists, by giving you a unique rank in each playlist. Above all, you have to make sure the foundation (including campaign) is solid before adding to it, and that’s where 343 doesn’t have it.

[@SunTzu176]

343i is a lesson on corporate hubris and we see that at multiple game dev studios these days. The biggest problem with devs these day is this utter and unshakable belief that they are right. Fan reaction, poor sales, qa testers, content creators? No, theyre all wrong. Our vision is flawless, they just dont get it! Its a combination of corporate culture and the infection of games are art people into the industry. Originally a game studio would be made up of and headed by enthusiasts, people who wanted to make a fun experience, who played games themselves for the love of the game. Now the leadership of these companies are made up of HR officers, art and polysci majors, or Patrick Bateman expies. How many times are gamers going to fall for the "we hear you, we acknowledge your worries and complaints, were returning to form, our community is important to us" only for the product to be the exact same slop as previous but somehow worse? They never learn the lessons from their failed projects. They simply shut their eyes and plug their ears and say. "We know better, our story, our art, is outstanding, the fanbase doesnt know what it wants and is wrong!" They go on to remove the few things players liked and double down for their next entry and a portion of the base gobble it up. Just look at the content creators soyjacking over 343i being "dead" its not dead. Its literally the same company with a name change. Its a rebrand due to bad PR. Literally nothing will change with the next Halo title. I dont even bother with AAA slop anymore.

[@verfallend]

Real as fuck and i couldn’t agree more but i also feel a tide shift is coming in the industry after the success of games like elden ring poe2 and bg3 and moments like swen vincke’s speech at the game awards that served as a pretty good wake up call to the industry

[@alexschneider8494]

These people have clearly never heard the saying, “The customer is always right.” Like it doesn’t matter how much you may think the customer isn’t understanding what you’re trying to do or is wrong, you literally NEED to make them happy in order to sell your product.

[@KnightofLondor]

​@@hickory654 It was truly a different time. I grew up poor and struggling, in a dysfunctional family, with little escape save from the games and consoles that were charitably given to me and my brother by our more stably living relatives. Every experience was magical -- There were so many different titles made with a love and passion directed towards making fun, intriguing, emotional games. Even now into my 20s I look back fondly to the time I spent with my brother, playing games we borrowed, were gifted, or managed to buy. Despite everything, it was like we hit the perfect point where we got to experience the golden era, the birth of a new industry, before shareholders and corporations sucked dry the creativity and passion for the craft. I truly feel bad for the current generations which never got to experience the culture of the late 90s - early 2000s. Supposedly, every generation feels this way, with a perceptive bias towards their own childhood, but I really think that time period was like lightning in a bottle, and I'm not so sure there will ever be anything quite like it again. As for the current gaming industry, I dropped AAA titles a long time ago. I look towards small studios and solo developers, where passion, creativity, and love for the work still thrives. As of late, there have been some rare higher budget successes that broke out of the greedy corporate sphere as well, so it's not all bad.

[@gray3589]

Play indie games, peo

[@gray3589]

Play indie games, people. They're good.

[@TheFrogEnjoyer]

Damn I wanted to see Tony Soprano driving a warthog

[@luciusrene943]

Bro. Back when Halo 3 came out I was a projectionist at a movie theater. One night we brought our 360s in and hooked one up to one projector and the other in another theater and system linked them. A team of 4 in each theater on the big screens with the whole auditorium to ourselves and we played all night. Good fuckin times.

[@medivhh]

I always find it funny that CS retaining its original feel for so long is still on the top of the steamcharts so many years later. Like valve knew they had a simple winning forumla and stuck to it.

[@topjos12]

Remember when Halo fans and COD fans used to fight over which series is better? good times... now fans on both sides are grieving for those old days.

[@dahalofreeek]

Picking a side between those back then was dumb. Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 are both classics. Both released towards the end of 2007. You missed out if you didn't play both.

[@Art__E]

46:15 Aged like fine wine with Microsoft turning down the Doom x Masterchief crossover episode for secret level

[@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww]

The truth is everything that made gameing good, including the world around it has changed so much, you can´t bring it back anymore. This is why we should rather take care to save the past, then to try to recreate it. 87% of all commercially sold games are unavialable anymore. You can only get them by grey zones like abandonware sides or straight up illegal activity, like pirating. We have to save the past for teh future.

[@TheFly212]

Agreed. It's why I still play and make Unreal Tournament vids. I will never stop. As long as I draw breath, and as long as my PC's hold up. I will continue to broadcast the signal. Epic can't stop all of us. They can't. MEGA KILL!!!!

[@verfallend]

You get it

[@tannerbarnes7392]

Me watching 343 mess up with Halo again and again: BUNGIE BUILT THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!

[@Kizuki-0117]

343 be like: "Uh... we're not Bungie."

[@zachrohler1047]

What a perfect reference lmao

[@yankychannels]

Any enemy of 343 is a friend of mine

[@verfallend]

🤝

[@nintendonerdjoseph]

It's insane how delusional some fans are--claiming that things have been good these last 12 years.

[@Kenji-117]

Technically Halo 5 for example was a good game... it was just not a good halo title...

[@funnymcfunfuns1455]

Halo 5 was ruined by a few things, worst of which was Req Packs. The true downfall was when they realized they could make more money on in-game purchases than the game itself. ​@@Kenji-117

[@GallowayJesse]

All 343 had to do was improve on what Halo 3 did.

[@n0b0d1-rc6dz]

Re: Destiny, All Bungie had to do was improve what Halo did.

[@bingisboy]

nah halo 4 definitely doesn’t “lack” an art-style, it just sucks

[@lilnuttt2974]

Yep. Agreed

[@yoturaliaz6205]

the same franchises that were revered for being giants are the sick men of gaming. theyre stil around, but theyre so bad you almost feel bad for them.

[@Chancethestylist]

Yup rip bungie and ubisoft

[@user-rd8cj4yg9e]

someone at 343 must know some secrets. that studio should have been shut down a LONG TIME AGO.

[@lukeweber2666]

As a cod player I got halo infinite and it was the first ever halo game I have played and I enjoyed the campaign a lot but I then downloaded the master chief collection and realized how dog shit infinite is

[@Some.Donkuss]

45:38 hell, bungie isn’t even bungie anymore…

[@MrTea101]

Forgot to mention that Bungie has renovated the FPS for console and created the 'Golden Triangle' mechanic (gun/grenade/melee) where every FPS games after Halo is based on. If you see any games that used the triangle and the two weapon capacity, you're practically playing a Halo game with a different skin.

[@_.kryptic.and.sadistic._]

Halo 2 Anniversary wasn’t even made by 343i at all, none of it. The cutscenes were animated by Blur Studios and the gameplay was made by Saber Interactive. The best thing to apparently come from 343 wasn’t even made by 343 to begin with. If anything they just got it published. Same with Halo Wars 2

[@codybrox4693]

The chief is still sleeping Everything that’s happened since halo 3 is just a bad dream We need him though

[@Blank55600]

The new studio already stated they don't wanna interact with the fanbase at all. Time we find a new home fellas, we aren't wanted.

[@rocstarang5747]

Old guy here. Been gaming since Atari and Reach is my favorite Halo campaign. There is so much emotion attached to the fact that no matter what Noble Team does, they are doomed... A metaphor for life me thinks.

[@Norgumi_TG-q5w]

The thing that really got under my skin with Halo 4 was that they made the covenant feel dumb to fight. While the promethians felt smart, so you're telling the faction that strategically conquered planets are THIS stupid? compared to the original games where they were smarter.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Months back Halo fans creamed their panties over the news that 343 Industries would become Halo Studios, but they missed the point that it was simply a rebranding exercise, no different than many other major corporations when they are trying to escape bad press. Nothing has fundamentally changed, and until Halo is taken out of the hands of these people and given to a studio with actually experience making successful games and which cares about Halo, the Halo franchise and it's legacy will continue to be degraded.

[@adrianmessina5214]

Everyone completely over looks the military aesthetic and how it made the game believable and unique,re playing it after joining the army made me appreciate it even more and feel that a lot of people over look how much research they did and work down to range cards etc

[@dukeynukey6725]

When Microsoft said they wanted Halo to last 30 years, it's wasn't a statement of continuation, it was a date of execution Unironically Helldivers feels more like halo than modern halo does

[@r00dfr00t]

Just saying but the first Halo Wars is THE BEST Halo themed RTS EVER.

[@AnyHeroBlake]

“Downfall” I feel like it was more of a base jump and free fall with no parachute, honestly

[@verfallend]

LMAO real

[@junioraltamontent.7582]

Cue the ODST Helljumper theme being played by a kazoo

[@petert1420]

One of the reasons why the Halo trilogy did so well was because Bungie actually cared about us.

[@itchyisvegeta]

The crappy thing is Bungie themselves are just as bad at this stuff now too. Look at Destiny 2.

[@Highlaw]

I'm very thankful for Halo4. It forever prevented me from purchasing a MS console after the 360, making it known beyond a shadow of a doubt that Halo without Bungie was dead.

[@pododododoehoh]

the point about the social scen of gaming, the "bro culture" being eroded by the political correctness crp is so true, multiplayer gaming at heart has always been about bromanship, wether we are talking about modern games or the sports of the greeks, If a game wants to be huge, its gotta let the boys be boys.

[@G-Fan-st2ow]

When you hear the word halo, that used to mean something. Now it’s just an empty shell of its former self, sad to see this beloved franchise go downhill

[@idunnoay]

Gotta say, that’s a huge misunderstanding of what a bell curve is. It’s a statistical distribution where most things are in the middle (for this example, average game quality), and there’s only a small tail at either end of things that are either completely rubbish, or absolutely exceptional. You’d want to rework the example to put Halo 3 at the far end of the bell curve where there are only a tiny fraction of exceptional games.

[@legitchristian8498]

When you try to appeal to everyone. You appeal to no one.

[@shazmodeus2795]

This is the difference between Bungie Halo and 343 Halo Bungie Halo: trend setting 343 Halo: trend chasing

[@carljohnson3434]

Is it me or has majority of the AAA games that have come out in the past 15 years had actual abysmal writing?

[@Starscreamer-w8b]

22:04 I get that a lot of the music wasn't amazing, but you should listen to 117, it is honestly one of my favorite halo pieces

[@aamacan]

The main menu theme was actually really good but should of been swapped out with THE Halo theme and have this piece of music be used somewhere else.

[@Kenji-117]

117 was the only good soundtrack composed under 343i / Halo Studios

[@layben4562]

Only one thing, Halo 2's story was an unfinished mess, which almost everyone criticized.

[@slinkerdeer]

that clip at the beginning gives me goosbumps everytime

[@mrplumbe7318]

16:45 did we forget Halo Wars?

[@rupert1126]

Bungie didn’t make Halo Wars, it got contracted out to Ensemble who made the Age of Empire games, and HW2 was made by creative assembly who make the Total War games.

[@nickoliekeyov746]

@rupert1126 I mean… Bungie didn’t make H4, H5, or Infinite either. I get that they’re pretty different mechanically but it feels incomplete to leave them out of a franchise analysis

[@mrplumbe7318]

@rupert1126 Yeah and without those games we wouldn't of got The Banished 😎

[@RetrospectivePerson]

I agree with most of what you said except for the H2A point, if you're talking about the multiplayer I full heartedly agree that it was mediocre at best, but the campaign remaster is one of the best remasters of a game I've played in a while in my opinion. I wasn't a player in the peak of halo but shortly after, ironically enough my bigger brother introduced me to my first game, Halo 2, which I played the campaign for a bit and then he bought a 360 and we played reach for the first time, I played both the campaign and multiplayer over and over again until the servers shut down which made me sad I wasn't able to play it anymore. But a couple years later he bought Halo 3 and I finally was able to enjoy that game for a time, because this after all the servers were shut down, and this rekindled my love of the game.

[@PeachDragon_]

I love how every couple months someone else gets depressed about halo and makes another video essay which is essentially a eulogy.

[@GoronCityOfficialBoneyard]

If only you knew how bad this is, many of my contacts and friends have been silenced and ruined who grew up with halo. The old internet is dead now we watch the destruction of the freedom of speech and the ruination of franchises, companies and governments we once held dear

[@Austinuztantine]

I was banned from the Halo steam forums for telling someone modern 2020's politics didn't belong in Halo, the moderators reason "Show basic courtesy and respect'

[@GoronCityOfficialBoneyard]

@@Austinuztantine They banned myself, a couple other people who help manage this youtube account, and temp banned the friend of mine who was the original owner of this account, simply because we offered support on various mods that are now banned. There are third party communities now popping up which advise not to publish to the workshop or to nexus because you will be banned. Sad state of modding, we were so close to MCC being truly great

[@pododododoehoh]

343 fired joe staten and barred Martin O'Donnel... the guys who wrote halo's store and lore... and the guy who wrote the the most iconic score in gaming.

[@LocalDiscordCatgirl]

I remember in Recruit School people would orchestrate the HALO theme in the showers. Shit was such a morale boost like you wouldnt believe

[@truth6441]

Reach was grand, glad I never picked up another Halo after...truly ended on the high note.

[@TTE.Heretic]

Rookies story is ODST says so much without him even saying a word, unless you count a few grunts(not the covenant) as words. Also I got play each one of the original Halos before Reach, it is still easily my favorite based on all the memories, the story, armor customization. They really sent Halo out with a bang for Bungies last one.

[@sasaki999pro]

The whistle alone that Rookie gives Vergil was literally more endearing than anything the entire 343 trilogy did, better than cortana's fanfic level emotional breakdown, palmers unearned smugness, lasky's "please fuck my wife" beta male energy, fireteam majestic's chucklefuck buffoonery, Lockes anti-charisma, fireteam osiris' complete absence of chemistry, Echo-216's constant whining, and those bastards had the gall to kill Rookie off unceremoniously in some stupid side novel.

[@Dj-Mccullough]

I was there for the midnight release of halo 2, everyone in line was cold as hell sitting outside but excited. we ended up having to wait till 4 am to get in, but it was worth it. Tracy, ca.

[@Mr_Bibbles]

38:00 To touch on the customization: What stopped me from ever buying Halo Infinite was the fact that you have to not only shell out off of this cash, and grind out all of your time to unlock all of these armor sets, colors, and pieces, but you're completely restricted to multiplayer in order to enjoy them. "But muh lore" Yeah, I get it, Chief is the poster boy of Halo, but what's the sense of all of the money and work for cosmetics if I can't enjoy them in every aspect of the game, especially in single-player? There's even cosmetics that can be unlocked in single-player, but can only be used in multiplayer... Get fucked, 343. I don't feel bad for those who spent their time and money on this shit. I'm just disappointed in them for essentially giving a dog treats after it shits on their bed, and proceeds to complain about why the dog keeps shitting on their bed.

[@ThatGuy-rz6tv]

Halo was something special, the team at Bungie was a one-of-a-kind team that will never again be replicated. Not even modern Bungie could replicate what the original Bungie could manage in their sleep.

[@MDE_never_dies]

Halo was a fun game. The “lore” that’s come out is still mostly just born out of an excuse for us to shoot more alien bad guys. The shows and subsequent games after Bungie died were supposed to be nothing more than cash cows. That’s the truth.

[@Camron-cy9vo]

Just hearing the music gives me tingles. Soo many memories.

[@BIGJUNK1MILLION]

35:47 a bit off topic but we really need to talk about how Bonnie Ross both looks and acts like a homunculus wearing a skin suit. Like a mechanical dreg designed to only be capable of thought that serves corporate interests

[@ViriatoII]

This, amongst other huge disappointments, made me stop having altogether. A girl the other day told me “you’re probably not into videogames”. And I realized, she’s right. I hate the slop that’s coming out for over 10 years, I don’t play games anymore. This treason changed me as a person, and was the trigger to becoming more sportive and honestly politically radical. #WeJustWantedToPlayVideogames

[@itchyisvegeta]

26:30 - I didnt just refund the game when this happened. I refunded the entire console. To this day, i regret not switching to PS4 when those consoles launched.

[@ManOfManyAccents90]

See. I got the Xbox One, which to me was fine. But the MCC was really the only reason I had it. Other than playing Ghost Recon with my now wife. PS4 literally got bought for Ace Combat 7 and 5

[@sirbubbles3480]

I'm not too hopeful on the rebrand, remember the ship of Theseus. Except they're not changing the parts they're just telling you it's a different ship, even though you can recognize it a mile away.

[@17GhXsts]

think their goal is to trash halo so bad that bungie buy it back to save the ip.

[@leanbean8962]

we can only hope

[@takeonedaily]

You think the bungie now is the same bungie from 2007? Go ask a Destiny player what they'd think of your idea.

[@ln7929]

The Bungie devs that made halo are long gone they started leaving during the destiny 1 development and are pretty much all gone now

[@dio2076]

Cope

[@17GhXsts]

@@ln7929 yeah kinda depressing but facts.

[@syd4952]

It's crazy that in most moments Halo 3 looks better and more cohesive than any of the later games.

[@jordanhenre477]

I still remember being 13, completely blown away while playing the Halo: Reach campaign. That ending-seeing Noble Six make his final stand-stuck with me. Back then, I just couldn’t understand it. Why couldn’t he win? Why couldn’t he escape? It felt unfair. Now, looking back as an adult, I get it. Noble Six’s story wasn’t about winning; it was about sacrifice, about being part of something bigger . His death wasn’t meaningless-it was the reason humanity had a chance. That moment captured everything Halo was about: It was tragic, but it was perfect. It’s hard to see what Halo has become now. The storytelling, the themes, the soul of the series- don’t get me started on the gameplay - it feels like all soulless, the heart of the series was thrown away, not because it needed to change, but because making money took priority without bungie at the helm to try and manage Microsoft’s demands and expectations. Halo isn’t what it used to be, and it’s painful to say, but the series needs to have a painful death so it can perhaps be sold and start again at worst or left to rest at best.

[@Beard_Hood]

to this day, what i see as the biggest insult was what they did to Chief and Cortana. Their relationship was a brothers in arms against frightful odds, not romantic. Giving her missive calcium cannons, while visually pleasing, was not the point of Cortana. That has been the trend of everything 343 and now Halo-i has and will do. They did not comprehend what made halo halo.

[@DisapprovingFather]

Nah...they definitely had a romantic connection. It was a weird one, to be fair, but it was always there.

[@Beard_Hood]

@@DisapprovingFather love yes, not romantic.

[@Jimboh1637]

5:13 HALO REACH 2 >add dual wielding >add brute shot >add playable brutes in multiplayer >switch perspectives between master chief who's time on reach runs parallel to Noble team and Noble 6 who is retconned to survive lone wolf and goes on a quest to survive/escape reach >add more grenade types >add in an optional third person mode >end game with a warthog run >add in SPI and MAC halo armor as cosmetics >add more customs games options >remove bloom >add Gungoose >add in warzone without the pay to win bs >add flood fire fight cause fun >no sprint, just have player moving 150% walking speed >add in carrying turrets in the passenger seat Made by the halo 2 anniversary devs and not 343/halo reach. Or just make a game about harvest.

[@doggogaming6895]

mfs be like i want a new original game but first im gonna buy the next COD

[@mspat8332]

The Halo 2 remade cutscenes are incredible but they are not the best thing 343 did, as they didn't even make them, they were made by Blur Studio, so in the end 343 literally did nothing good lol

[@optimisticpasta4246]

played halo 3 and Reach religiously growing up in the early to mid 2010s, only ever played splitscreen with my brother and a few friends. Never had Xbox live cuz my parents never got it for me. Missed out on one of the greatest chapters of multiplayer gaming during its peak, biggest bummer of my whole childhood

[@patrickholt8782]

Unrelated, but you could photoshop Anthony soprano into anything and I wouldn’t question it.

[@VADMGohanWayne]

You’re spot on about so many points, but I think a lot of fans (and even you) might not realize the role shareholders play. Companies like Microsoft are legally bound to maximize profits for shareholders, so creative risks or even prioritizing Halo over something like Call of Duty isn’t always feasible. It’s unfortunate, but it explains why Halo has struggled to get the resources or direction it truly deserves. Not saying i approve of any of this but the unfortunate reality of America - the biggest economy in human history is run by corporate suits who take the fun out of everything. Same is happening everywhere. Sports, movies, videogames, clothes & many more

[@Smaltese93]

I’m old enough to remember the release of halo combat evolved. The hype that came with 2 in middle school. And the sheer awe of 3 in high school. I’m glad I can still play these games to this day. Along with others like black ops 1 and world at war. Better games from a better era. No longer to return.

[@madspice1663]

Frank o Connor took my wife hostage and extorted money from me. Worse of all he did this while single handily eviscerating halo's story and lore.

[@ymck7246]

Ver, I know you not. But you sound pretty young. As an older guy who went through this same rodeo in 2014-2016, a decade ago. Don't waste your time being anti-woke. The industry is not bad because of "the woke". Its because corner cutting, greed and mediocre leadership. There is a whole list of woke games out there that are great. Just like thefe is a whole list of politically incorrect games that are great. Just like there are a lot of conservative games that are great. And there are aweful games in all of those three camps. Our enemy is not the other political side. Its the people who think a lootboxes, battle passes, seasonality or trend-seeking make a good game.

[@jeff3221]

Real.

[@XVII_RONIN]

Give this video time for the views and likes cause it’s really good but as a halo content creator I think that halo can be great again just the developers need to lock in and make a fully working halo game because infinite is a good game I think the gameplay is some of the best, the problem is the lack of updates and new content also it launched horribly

[@verfallend]

Preciate it brotha! and I couldn’t agree more it’s sad what they did to infinite the game has so much potential 343 just need to lock in

[@frankiefaithful]

Sorry to say, but Halo is dead and won't be making any come back. It's over. Bill Gates should just shut Xbox down at this point.

[@trashjash]

I hate to break it to you, Halo Infinite is not a good game. The gameplay may be the closest to a functional Halo experience that 343i has gotten, but it is still worse than even CE's sandbox and gameplay. Sure it may look more like Halo than every other 343i project, but just like when you blow up a phantom in Infinite, interacting with it reveals it to be a flat, barely functional, poor imitation of what came before. The Forge has amazing capabilities, but it's so expansive and unwieldy that only the Forge fanatics use it. Gone are the simple map object shuffles and adjustments that casual dabblers would do that freshened up the regular pool of maps, keeping the air of familiarity while also sprinkling in newness. And not to mention that Forge dropped so late in Infinite's life cycle that Halo 5 got Forge earlier, and Halo 5 got their Forge late - meaning if it gets it after launch, it's too late. Halo Infinite makes Halo 5 look good (outside of the art style and stupid movement system), and Halo 5 was a loot box game. Halo Infinite is a cash shop with a barely functioning game stapled onto it. That's it.

[@frankiefaithful]

@trashjash Very well said.

[@Elizabeth_BLux]

24:35 That meme is so real, i used to play splitscreen with my dad and brother, they play cod now...

[@miqueiasfernandes2326]

Frank o'connor and bonnie ross are responsible

[@ice111110]

Halo meant so much to me. I played them basically when they released. Halo CE was my first video game I ever really played. Halo 4 was very mid to me and killed my passion for the franchise, up until this I owned every book ( the actual physical copies) every game, and watched all the extra media and tried to find all the little extra details I could. I even got into armor and weapons because of Halo. With 343 I did play something like 150hrs in Halo 4, but I did not buy or play halo 5 because 343 had mad it so lack luster and bad.

[@trafichat]

Capitalism ruined my beloved Halo

[@spritemanplus4700]

Bro how does this only have like 65k views?! This is actually a very well done video man great job!

[@ethantaylor9613]

The forerunners where always humans

[@ImOnGearSoWhat]

It’s called being normal. Being straight is how your bloodline made it this far.

[@thesimplerooster]

Id say Bungie could do it better nowadays but with how they handle the franchisees they still own that would be a lie.

[@Jono_McK]

The intro to this video ALONE proves the franchise has fallen so far from grace.