They Said Skillers Can't PVM, they were right...

[@Boef729]

"Kut spel jonge" I felt that true pain

[@floyd5949]

Referring to the 6:30 time at sepulchre, I think it's quite balanced. It is what you excel at. Whilst clearing harder pvm tasks without much struggle, sepulchre took me quite a couple of runs to complete. I think there is definitely room for more master tasks. These would include stuff like faster sepulchre times. But also like 900 invocation toa and 700 invocation toa as well as speedrun times for raids etc. But seeing how pvm tasks are balanced to make them doable for almost anyone that's decent enough at the game, I think 6:30 does fit about right in comparison with the pvm challenges given.

[@ncghost12]

I’m usually a skilling hater but I think there should be a few *very* difficult skilling tasks like near tick perfect sepulchre. You have to be near tick perfect for the special jad challenge so why not have something similar for sepulchre? I want to see the best skillers banging their head against a wall just as we see the best pvmers do!

[@JohnGubels]

ook echt "Kut spel jonge" ik voel de pijn man

[@remiboros1163]

I like tithe farm. I’m happy to hear someone express a controversial take, especially when I share it :p

[@tabsies1]

It's dope to see you trying out some PvM, you improved a lot very quickly! As for the Jad challenges, the melee attack of Jad is faster than mage or range attack which causes the Jads attack on same tick after a melee attack. The easy way out is using a halberd, but idk if that is possible with your areas. I'd recommend waiting until they start an attack and hitting once with a DDS spec, then step back and wait for another attack to repeat.

[@MapoTofuFan]

you can get dragon halberd from masters, but it is a rough grind without treasure seeker

[@krikkeyou93]

​@@MapoTofuFan You require tirannwn for regicide, which is required to equip a dragon halberd.

[@fee8422]

you can use any halberd rune or down without tirranwn as long as you have access to the item, although I would recommend just doing a few attacks and stepping back, it's just an 8 tick cycle it's not very challenging for a high level skiller I would assume

[@Cometags]

That zebak clip has to be one of the funniest from leagues so far lmaoo bro was tanking on 1hp like it was a stake

[@bjorndeelman]

Gz op de 500 man , keep progressing maat!

[@leflavius_nl5370]

dungeoneering lvl?

[@estivalbloom]

it's already been said, but just adding that different content is different for different people. I find melee 4-jads to be p much trivial but 6:30 sepulchre took some effort even with me having hundreds of main game laps there (though tbf my tile marker setup is still whatever random stuff I slapped down on release day)

[@ncghost12]

There should be a few skilling tasks that even the best skillers struggle with, because even the best pvmers aren’t going to get the special jad challenge first time

[@EwoutR]

Didn't expect the "kutspel jonge" kekw

[@matthebat3]

With regards to TzHaar-Ket-Rak's challenges, I know it's kind of annoying but if you get a Halberd you can melee while not standing next to them and they stay off-tick. Not sure if you can access it in your regions, need Asgarnia or Tirranwn or Wilderness. Tirranwn better because you can use a Dragon Halberd but the other two regions you can get and use a Rune Halberd.

[@brameijkr2d]

If you're ever doing a PvM speedrun series of any kind, please name the character 'KutspelJonge' 🤣

[@fee8422]

watching a high level skiller try pvm is very very enjoyable. I think with your understanding of tick cycles and click accuracy you could be really good at it, if you can get past your frustration of dying a few times learning stuff (which good job on so far c:). I think at the very high end the gameplay isn't all that different for either skilling or pvm (runescape is a rythm game after all), it's just a difference between consistent dopamine of account progress vs rng drops as a reward, and I feel the skillcap on what you can do in pvm is higher (like inferno speedrunning etc) so it interests me more, but I am also obviously biased as a click boss enthusiast.

[@heboxjonge]

ty haha, you are deffo right here but even if get a lot better i dont think ill enjoy it as much as skilling. occasional deaths still happen and it just takes me out of the flow of playing real quick. it reminds me of playing CoD, i win/play good, feel nothing. u lose 1 game or die on a streak, day ruinend. stopped playing games like that for that reason

[@DelPlays]

lol, you followed almost exactly my league Alt's build, the only difference I have is infernal harvesting tools instead of the slayer relic. That being said, it's not exactly optimal build for trying to get a lot of league points, but I just wanted to play around with weapon spec a little without even trying to get past T7 relic.. Tho if I were to get T8 relic for the alt, it would definitely be undying retribution as it compliments the weapon specialization relic by far the most. Guardian would be great for dealing with magic and ranged enemies, but like I said.. I only made the weapon spec guy just to play around. It's still pretty funny that you ended up picking almost exactly same relics as me on the second character (even if I still prefer the first character's path of Production Prodigy -> Ranged -> Berserker -> Undying just for unlocking dragon cup)

[@jonasvanmaldeghem688]

Shows the complexity of our game that there's actual people so good at skilling and having a rough time PvMing, or people unbeatable at PvP but bad at skilling, or...

[@charlesratcliffe6839]

I went 47 ToA for one purple. All 250. Only purple a ward. Just quit and went back to main game iron. F that.

[@nuubynuub1481]

if 6:30 hallowed sepulchre is too easy then please and go try to do it without tile markers on mobile (or even on official client). dont downplay it as it being easy. there's HEAVY learning curve for regular player who doesn't use tile markers.

[@TheAlfaMage]

Not only that, imo its a bit of a learning curve and I havent been able to get the master task down. max got 200m there so for him it's second nature, should have a little more neutral opinions instead of the sweaty skiller mindset

[@ericli1522]

a lot of things are harder on mobile, that doesn't mean the game should be balanced around it.

[@yrdstrgj9653]

lots of things are easier on RL should they balance the game around every player using those plugins?

[@ericli1522]

​@@yrdstrgj9653 yeah absolutely.

[@ncghost12]

@@yrdstrgj9653agree 100%. The day when most players can complete the special jad challenge on mobile is the day when most players should be able to do the sepulchre task on mobile. Its supposed to be hard, the time should even be lower

[@brinverheijden2701]

Monster Hunter: world music is gold

[@TheNinjaHawk]

i dont have 91 agility in the main game, the 8min task is a challenge lol

[@GeerinRS]

Hope you're doing well.

[@Josh_from_Texas]

Nice

[@jeanbob1481]

nobody in their right minds can pvm. It took me like 2 weeks to get consistent corrupted gauntlets kills. I am one week in in learning TOA and while I can complete entry mode normal mode is still too hard for me. Zebak or Akkha always get lucky and kill me off due to jars of water not being able to hit the rocks or akkha being akkha. Le'ts not even talk about the warden that requires you to watch 3 different place and attack him at the same time.

[@LaidbackLukee]

lol this was my thought process watching zuk fight, pray vs jad while moving while staying behing shield and dps. but its just practice is ez

[@heboxjonge]

keep at it beast! the jugs at zebak still get me sometimes too. luckily leagues pvm is easier

[@DelPlays]

When hunting for fang, you actually might not want to increase the invocation levels.. You have much better chance of rolling fang from 150 than 500 raids (when getting an unique drop).. The raid can drop any loot even from 50 invocations but certain drops are much more rare at lower settings. So at exactly 150 raids you are more likely to either get the ring or fang and nothing else.. By increasing your invocations to 500 yeah, you get purples more often but are rolling the whole drop table basically which is why you keep getting so varied loot. That being said, yes you get purples uniques less commonly at lower invocation levels so it's still possible that it's faster to get fang at 500's if you can clear them, however it can be bit frustrating to roll constantly masori pieces instead of the item that you're after. And 150 raids are much faster and more chill to complete. The biggest negative aspect from running 150 invo's (besides seeing less purple chest) is that you probably won't be getting shadow for the magic damage increase so there's that.. As a side note, yeah relics are pretty busted DPS in the leagues making the raids so much easier than main game.. But good job still clearing that 500 raid on your own and gz for getting that fang in the end.

[@videogamehawk79]

Definitely not worth doing. The lower amount of points, and the lower purple multiplier means you'll still get a fang slower than 500s.

[@mrmartin988]

the distribution of purples is the same at 150 as it is at 500 - it's only below 150 that the other items are reduced (though, this doesn't change the odds of a fang, so it would only be relevant if your purple rate was 100% even in entry mode - it's not)

[@Bownerator]

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[@nodi1217]

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[@yuv4]

youre banned