They Say I'm Wrong About Aikido: US Army Colonel, USMC, Navy QRF

Conversations about Aikido can be frustrating. Here's one that completely changed my mind about its purpose and origin.
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[@kenokurose]

One very important question about Aikido: back in that days, O Sensei allowed only advanced students in his dojo! Karate, Judo, Sumo MASTERS. Those guys really challenged him, got defeated and became uchi deshi. Aikido may not be enough as a starting art. You have to know how to fight to do it right.

[@Bad_Wulf]

Indeed, he put Kenshiro Abbe on the floor, all Japan judo champion, one of only 4 men to beat kimura.

[@francescol.bellman9670]

Finally. I totally agree.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Good point!

[@jerryjordan2482]

Factz !

[@madjidchouarbi3921]

Kurose Music & Art You're right. That's the same thing with Tai Chi Chuan: The first Masters, well known for their ability in fighting came from hard styles Kung fu. They were all very experimented expert in fighting and were able to understand how to use the soft power of Tai Chi Chuan. Nowdays, unfortunately, Tai Chi Chuan had been so corrupted in its training, purpose etc... that almost noone can use it for personnal defense. People focuses on the external soft moves, forgetting that primeraly, this art was very close to classical Shaolin Kung Fu. The way you train makes the difference. Both in Aikido and Tai Chi, its really hard to find a good teacher who can demonstrate his techniques face to an uncooperative opponent, but, if you meet such a Master, stick with him, you'll find real treasures.

[@jackwilson6467]

There was a bouncer in Nashville for years back in the 90's named Kevin Sparkman who was renown for being a wrecking machine. He taught aikido. When I asked him why aikido worked for him and not others he chalked it up to him having to fight with it. He called the other aikidoka who couldnt make it work, "jedis" and "granola eaters." He said they were too into being "one with the universe" and not into wanting to learn how to fight.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

When you are a hundred pounds heavier, a whole lot stronger, and your opponent doesn't know how to fight, any move can work.

[@randysmith2490]

I trained with Sparkman a few times, about a decade or so before he died of cancer in 2014. Modern aikido in the United States is full of people like him. Do not mistake a soft style of training--applicable for repetition, muscle memory, endurance, control of force escalation, and examination of nuance--for being unable to accommodate harder elements. Sparkman was a good example of how training softly can lead to harder application when circumstances dictate. If you can irimi nage someone into an accommodating feather fall, you can also irimi nage someone's larynx into the asphalt.

[@KM2558-o1y]

Jack Wilson similarly, there’s a guy in the UK who works as a bouncer and teaches Aikido. He said it worked well for him as he’d been arrested in the past for punching a guy out (bloody mess) he got off with it but now prefers Aikido as there’s less blood and less risk of arrest and/or litigation. Also, these sorts of guys can fight anyway and can make almost anything work!

[@swimmingmantis22]

Jack Wilson 😂 Jedis are pretty tuff. But I understand. The truth is that a lot of guys training have never been in a real fight. And when I attend classes I never accept fake attacks or unrealistic tactics. We can learn to be one with nature, but when fighting you are making your opponent march to your beat and not what is natural to him. Keep up the good work.

[@arkhust6775]

@popasmuerf Well thing is weight matters in all disciplines, boxing, kickboxing, etc, theres no magical martial art that because youre thin and small youre going to beat a 190cm + person, that doesnt work like that, sadly the bigger and stronguer person usually has the advantage, even if he/she doesnt knnow how to fight a push from a person that big is enough to make you eat the floor.

[@brutalsimplicity2911]

Great to see smart, kind, open minded people having conversations about this.

[@eclipsewrecker]

I agree, but I think too nice and not challenging enough.

[@eclipsewrecker]

@Tom Dantzig not sure you comprehended my reply and the context of the OC.

[@JoshuaHowley]

"It's a tool in the tool box". "No style is superior". Someone get's it.

[@manuelmamann5035]

so many people talk about asumtions and belives for beeing fakts...

[@CaffeAddict]

You beat me to it.

[@nothingnewtome1]

The style that wins is in fact superior. Having your brains beaten in is an inferior position by any measure and that’s what playing touch-butt with some guy who makes you call him “sensei”..

[@CaffeAddict]

@@nothingnewtome1 so, what style is that? Sometimes you find yourself in a position where knowing BJJ would help, other times boxing more useful. Just like your hand tools, you can't unscrew a screw with a saw nor cut a pipe with a screwdriver.

[@bigjimmcbob9358]

"No style is superior" is bullshit. You probably accept that trained fighters are better than untrained fighters. That inherently accepts that there are techniques that are superior to other techniques. It probably also accepts that some techniques are basically worthless (e.g. no one says wild haymakers are a good way to fight). Once you accept that some techniques are better than others, you should probably accept that a martial art with more functional techniques is superior to a martial art with fewer functional techniques. Unless you seriously want to advance the position that no martial art contains any more functional techniques than any other, I think you have to admit that some martial arts are superior.

[@dovpine]

Great content GN, refreshing to see Aikido integrated into the larger conversation without the mainstream bias and misunderstanding. All tools serve a purpose, when and how to use them is the real art.

[@knh5954]

Two camps of Aikido, one builds foundation with kihon (basic/static) before working up to ki no nagare ( advanced/flowing) and the other attempts ki no nagare without foundation. One is effective against attacks/grabs with intent/resistance, the other produces deer in headlight. When O'sensei visited Tokyo dojo and found they were training advanced without basic, he was not happy, Tokyo called Saito Sensei from Iwama dojo to come get him, as the story goes. They were attempting to train his later style that he took 50 yrs to develop to people who had not learned the basics with resistance/intent training. This was the split between Iwama/prewar and Ki flowing post war branch offs. I have seen these different training models many times at mixed Aikido seminars, and am always shocked at how some can make techniques work and how some can not, having learned Ki/flowing model without resistance/intent. This article explains it very well... www.iwama-aikido.com/articles/resist.html?

[@mark11145]

The knuckle draggers exist in almost every discipline. There the ones that now how to make their art real and effective. Every martial art is based on the truths these knuckle draggers know but the majority of practitioners have forgotten. Thus the art is dissed and dismissed. The only measure of a technique is its effectiveness multiplied by it’s efficiency. This is why these men were in agreement.

[@jesusemd.valley1361]

"...a tool in the tool box.." Sir--that is the most profound statement in the martial arts world in my humble opinion, well said.

[@SuperlativeElectric]

1:19 I can see Aikido being super useful in a stand-up clinch position, especially in a closed space the knowledge could be a game changer. I’m definitely intrigued. Good vid!

[@spartanwarrior1]

R Trev wishful thinking. Aikido is based on cooperation or else their techniques wouldn‘t work at all. Jiu-jitsu or kenpo are the only real Japanese responses to violence

[@SuperlativeElectric]

@@spartanwarrior1 There's nothing wishful about it, dude. The cop clearly displayed it and praised... on this video... that talks about the (very) few, but meaningful ways to apply the system... the video which we are referring to.... Relax, cap.

[@driver3899]

@@SuperlativeElectric The guy doing it knows a lot about fighting and has a lot of real world experience giving the missing pieces needed to pull off these very low percentage (of success) techniques. Bjj or wrestling or even judo have much higher success rate in the standing clinch range. Your average aikido practitioner, even black belts, are going to have a rude awakening when they try low their percentage moves against a fully resisting attacker throwing repeated head punches as fast and hard as they can. Basically aikido is not build for real combat, it's lack of head movement or realistic blocking alone are proof of that, and saying it will makes people who know better mad because its perpetuating a dangerous delusion that might at best will get someone beat up and at worst might get them killed. It's very pretty to watch but that's not to be confused with a stand alone self defence system. That's why people get heated about this topic generally.

[@driver3899]

@This is BAXTER And how many aikido practitioners can reliably wrist lock someone offering 100% resistance and aggressively punching them? Lets just say the martial arts world is still waiting to see the proof of this actually happening.

[@AlexanderGent]

You hit the nail on the head it's all about the purpose. It's important to go back to roots and look at the context, that's what I've done with the weapons side of Aikido. I've got some weapon sparring videos on my channel and hopefully in about a year's time I may start to look at the grappling side too.

[@lcb1250]

I love seeing people growing and changing for the better in all apects of life and especially in martial arts!

[@liz9284]

I’ve known a lot of military guys who used aikido, and one of those guys taught me a little and it ended up saving my life. Why? Because I remembered what I needed to remember even after I got my bell rung and after I got cut. Like he said, it’s one of many tools in the toolbox, and what little I learned was simple but effective. Ppl tend to knock whole platforms so easily, but really, I don’t see much that’s intelligent about that approach.

[@simonedwards7543]

Poppasmerf you are a bitch

[@mikeduke57]

Great video, sir. Years ago I trained with two guys from Guam who were Aikido instructors under Hamada at ODU in Norfolk, VA. They also had wrestling experience and shared that after Aikido class. I found the principles and many of the techniques helpful in my time as a law enforcement officer. I shared some basic BJJ with them in exchange for learning Aikido and eventually they went and trained with Gustavo Machado. I learned the difference between Aikido and Aikijiujitsu while training with them. The latter using the locks and throws to hurt someone rather than just tossing them or causing them to submit. Also there was an event at ODU where everyone under Hamada's system came for a private gathering to train the first day and then a demo for the public on the second day. I attended the demo. My instructors were there for the gathering as well. There were three guys from Portugal that were crazy good and SUPER aggressive in the way they applied the techniques. Talking to my instructors, during the day before everyone sparred and he said the Portugal guys were tearing everyone up. I was impressed. All that being said, The two main things I took away from my time practicing Aikido were 1) Footwork - methods of entry, blending, and dealing with multiple opponents and 2) while grappling, the importance of not giving too much energy that can be used against you.

[@j_bourne6496]

That was fantastic brother. I love how you are growing in wisdom in every video. I dig the humbling message and retraction of Century as well, bravo. These videos that are opening the door to conversations are my favorites. We can find wisdom in so many places if we are just willing to cast aside our conscience and unconscious bias and hear one another out.

[@aikidoestoico]

Thanks for the video...I'm from spain and I practise Aikido for 30 years, I focus in training in a realistic, humble Way. I'm tired of videos talking about Aikido is not effective, it's bullshit. I'm totally disagree..like you said in the video it's a tool in the tool box. Depends of you the use...thank you very much,,

[@mikelearned1628]

Well said, especially the explanation on prewar and postwar Aikido.

[@jgrospe]

Awesome. I am so happy you posted this . Aikido and FMA are two tools in my "tool box". Thank you for sharing. Thank you for having an open mind.

[@Master-Shannon]

When I learned it 35 years ago the some (Australian) NSW police was using with the strikes. The Japanese riot police use it. It works in the street. But a lot people want to dis on arts to promote themselves. Isn’t that a business strategy of a certain MA group? As for it’s negative image, I think it was from the people it attracted rather than the art itself. As soon as they used the words zen, flow, harmony and peace all the macrobiotic flower children showed up. Really nice people but... same thing has happened to other brutal arts Ba Gua and Tai Chi. But then you get guys like Erle who know how to actually use it kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qbcpaEo7WoorM I only stopped after a spinal injury during practice and now OA in both knees so Aikido can be rough on the body.

[@vukan0008]

Exactly I don't know about that business strategy part, simply because I'm not as familiar with it and never really gave it much thought, but if you ask me, it is unfair calling Aikido complete garbage.

[@vicentegeonix]

Or aikido is just not a good martial art.

[@vicentegeonix]

@@vukan0008 it kinda is, and a waste of time.

[@vukan0008]

@@vicentegeonix everyone has their own opinion. like in any other martial art it's effectiveness is often dictated by the person teaching you. styles like aikido even more so. definitely would recommend training more than one art, no matter whether you started with aikido, boxing or BBJ. i just wanted to express that i agree with @Master Ah Gha Nm since even though i have been training kickboxing and muay thai for years now, i do not regret practicing aikido and receiving my black belt in that art. i can even go on and say that principles and techniques i learned in aikido classes actually did help me and worked quite well in violent scenarios that i have encountered in my life.

[@vicentegeonix]

@@vukan0008 in other words aikido is actually a waste of time, its cool that you like it but facts are facts its not that useful and a waste of time

[@duncansutherland47]

These wrist locks are all taught in good self defense based old school Jiu-Jitsu schools.

[@QuattroPogjeena]

Duncan Sutherland that’s because they both come from daitoryuaikijujitsu

[@duncansutherland47]

Matrix Madness yes, of coarse, however most BJJ schools don’t cover it. Old school traditional Gracie Jiu-Jitsu teaches it as it was taught to them by Maeda. Yes, he got it from the original Kodokan which was adapted from a few other traditional Japanese Jiu-Jitsu Ryu’s.

[@TheVictorsCircle]

Back in the 90's when i used to train with GM Presas we used a lot of those wrist and arm locks in Modern Arnis Mano-Mano. When i transitioned to BJJ and grappling in the early part of 2000's (when it was still less sport oriented) I caught a lotta people with those.

[@Brndndutton]

So Awesome To See The Blend And Discussions Happening So We Can Learn From One Another. This Is Where We Get Greatness.

[@koden24]

Listen, I’ve studied karate-Do, Aikido, Iaido, wrestling, Boxing, some Wing Chun, and Kubudo. It’s just what these Gentleman stated, blending, I’m also a retired Marine, so I had the honor to train with some Great Instructors🤜🏽

[@MrVyrtuoso]

Love this interview. My fave thus far on martial arts.

[@ronoshiro805]

Never underestimate someone..no ego be humble that is true strength

[@MrEdium]

Hapkido in Korea works as well & that also came from Aikijujitsu but was not "soften". Remember that "The good stuff knows no home"(Hock Hockheim)

[@wesleylammay4295]

My fma instructor taught me locks that aikido friends helped me refine and use in free fighting the Colonial was right on (that instructor was ex military too).

[@magnusblick6767]

That guy Gary Drake just gives off an aura of badass.

[@rainjones3212]

Finally a great aikido conversation

[@travisvanderlaan9829]

Let me ask this in the spirit of combat sports as all being equal, is not the joint locks that you learn in aikido or jiu jitsu enter changeable? Just like judo throws are often used in jiu jitsu or wrestling techniques transition between the two. Should we as martial arts be more concerned with what we can learn from each what works quickly and effectively, efficient motion to destroy or direct an attacker?

[@yamakawirodebike5710]

Short answer.. yes. Human body only works one way so different styles "attack/manipulate" limbs the same. Im 51 and trained Aikido and Kali. In simple terms both styles are about RE-directing the attack, so lots of similar moves, locks, and throws. My mother was advanced Judo and started me there at age 7. Things I learned from her at home were similar to both styles id learn and show her years later. Hope this helps, stay safe!!

[@ziapsp4167]

Indeed a first on Aikido. Mind blowing talk. Depends on the situation ..sometimes you don’t need to go full MMA all the time. Seasoned Colonel. Respect.

[@AbdulRahman-ts6rt]

im not so fond myself of those mma mindset, mma is first and formost just a term coined to a person practicing multiple arts, but not an art in itself. Thats why i get annoyed when brainless keyboard warriors trashes anything they dont see fit into mma and say tht mma is better.

[@errtrainer]

Kudos to Col Harden! And yes, that was adult approach to Aikido, without all the greasy kids stuff.

[@jessef88]

Aikido is great for teaching you how to fall and roll. That break fall saved me a few times lol

[@elizajames477]

I actually got thrown across a club by a massive guy. When I landed with a reverse roll and started walking back towards him,he ran away, ah ah

[@jsbcody]

Another thing Aikido teaches; how to fall and roll. I used several Aikido different break falls during ice storms this last winter......no injuries. Like other martial arts there are different branches and different styles. Hard style Aikido or Aikijujutsu. Just like everything, it comes down to the teacher.

[@EqualizerCombatives]

I loved my time training in Aikido but the politics and backstabbing from Sensei's and schools was disgusting. Yes Aikido works when taught properly. Real Aikido isn't flowery and pretty. It hurts !

[@godsrevolver9737]

Dude, it doesn't work.

[@MarkARhodie]

My dad was a Royal Marine Commando for 9 years and a brown belt Judo, he recommended aikido to me in the early 90s, but it took nearly 20 years to find a club and I enjoy it.

[@mraffabilityGB]

That is how Aikido works. People mistake Kata drills for the real practical technique. The bit about getting the TV out of your head is absolutely bang on. You do the drills so that you can seize the opportunity without thinking.

[@kaiceecrane3884]

I'm open to to seeing functional aikido, I'd certainly like to see more in application and the ideas behind what they do to make it function for them

[@spartanwarrior1]

KaîÇee Crane will never happen

[@kaiceecrane3884]

@@spartanwarrior1 I think so too, but I'm always open to be proven wrong

[@MMABeijing]

i use aikido in grappling all the time, and if there is a stick or knife involved that's all the more important

[@kaiceecrane3884]

@@MMABeijing I be really interested in instructional videos you have on youtube then, teaching and explaining what we all got wrong, is that something you do or are willing to do

[@newchapter6840]

I get what you are saying. However aikido is not meant to conflict so the mindset of aikido practitioners is to not fight/conflict. Aikido mindset is set in 'Budo' stone. Budo means 'stop war' so for aikido guys fighting is bad. Aikido takes violence and attempts to lead it peacefully away from itself. Peaceful resolution. Harmony. Reconciliation. These elements are engrained in the philosophy. Yes it comes from Ju-Jitsu, aikijitsu and the sword and other weapons. The founder had epiphanies to use it for the dissolution of violence and discord. That said a lot of aikido can be very dangerous against an untrained attacker. I know.

[@芯芯しゅしゅ]

This is what I was waiting for, All too often, Forceful or powerful opinions spread really rapid in community to community conversations, (not to mention even faster on the net) But those quiet, tranquil, regular talks between good ideas get lost in one place of isolation. So... Good for you Rubio! I really liked this one.

[@AikidoApplied]

check a map. Nagasaki is nowhere near Iwama. too funny. The founder of Aikido never lived in A-bombed Nagasaki (800 plus km away from his birthplace of Tanabe, He then lived in Hokkaido, Ayabe, Tokyo and Iwama (and Tokyo) - leagues away. "Aikido" is a big tent. All kinds of different things going on inside. The principal aim of Aikido is developing better humans: mind, body and spirit through the relentless dynamic drilling of martial arts techniques. Most Aikidoka are unrealistic about the objectives of training and the benefits they are receiving. However, for some it remains an applied martial art, by building on solid fundamentals derived from the basic curriculum. Find and touch (not watch) the real thing - you cannot help but be impressed, if you understand martial arts. But where to find it? hmmmmmm; unlikely on the internet. This Way of Aikido is in decline ... in my view. Perhaps, as it first began, with other trained martial artists pursuing Aikido there will be a revival.

[@towag]

Known that since 1975 onwards!!.... The Colonel is spot on!!

[@prettyflyforafilipin]

Arguing about style superiority is like arguing which is more superior, math or english. Styles are a study of a particular fighting field (boxing for hands, bjj for ground and aikido for connecting). No style is superior only the effort.

[@subsonic9854]

It isnt like comparing english and math. Its more like trying to solve an addition equation using vertical addition vs counting your fingers vs randomly scrawling numbers on a wall. You can work hard using each method but the vertical addition will be the best, counting fingers will work but inefficiently, and the last option will not get you anywhere unless youre super lucky.

[@DirtyCasual36]

A quote i once read best describes it: "There is never a better style or martial art, there is only a better practitioner"

[@prettyflyforafilipin]

SuB SONiC what you’re saying is like using bjj to face multiple opponents, not the best strategy. Not every construction scenario requires a hammer. What I’m saying is that it’s foolish put down styles or hold one higher than another. Styles are a matter of preference. But i agree with you; Aikido can be awesome in mma if the practioners learn to face that style, often they don’t.

[@subsonic9854]

@@prettyflyforafilipin sorry no, i meant that within one domain (punching, kicking, wrestling, grappling, impact weapons, etc) some styles are better than others in terms of efficiency, adaptability, and ease of learning. I mean thats the whole point of the ufc. Muay proved to have stronger and simpler kicks than other arts. Wrestling has proven more useful than judo. Etc. Now are there stephen thompsons and lyoto machidas etc that upset the dominance of muay in mma? Did fedor use judo? Yes, and i love guys like that. But they are exceptions, and id argue that most fighters doing karate and crosstrain would have a harder time finding success in a cage than do nak muay. Could aikido beat other grappling or wrestling arts? Not in a cage because finger locks are illegal, but maybe sometimes outside the cage, no doubt. But how much would an aikido guy have to adjust and even crosstrain to fight a wrestler vs how much would a wrestler have to crosstrain to fight an aikido guy? Some styles are objectively superior. A good and clever fighter could get mileage out of an inferior style assuming he trained well, but almost any idiot could do muay or bjj casually and find success vs guys who dont train similar arts. Individuals are more important than styles when we look at individual fights, but not when we zoom out and look at the statistics.

[@prettyflyforafilipin]

SuB SONiC tell that to wonder boy, or Lyota machida or gsp. I’m just saying sometimes one Bjj grappler wins sometimes a catch wrestler can wins. Khabib was able to topple Connor with a punch that no right-minded boxing coach would teach. A lot has to do with skill and training. Styles are just means.

[@dradamov]

Another source of context-sensitive debate on aikido can be found among people of birankai federation (they are US based too). They try to take aikido for what it is, what it was used for and what we can learn from it. Really down to earth people, that do not fantasize about the art but try to apply it to the best of its intended uses. Oh, and they do have ex-military teachers among them (USMC).

[@jeffdoeskungfu]

i knew a bjj purple belt who learned aikido from his cop training. that guy had beastly wrist locks. in contrast, i knew some aikido guys from college who fought like limp noodles. so, yeah. train with resisting opponents and you can make any style work

[@Medic75156]

Would love to hear more conversations like that.

[@jriv75]

Excellent explanation. Not defensive about the art, but practical and realistic.

[@nothingnewtome1]

No one is arguing that it isn’t useful for “escorting someone out of a bar” I was a correctional officer for a few years and we used many pressure point locks and small joint manipulation. It works when you are up against active or even mildly combative resistance when you need someone to comply like in a situation where two inmates are in a fight in prison and you have to break it up or you are a bouncer and need to escort someone out of a bar or you are a cop and you need to place someone who’s resisting under arrest. It’s a decent tool for dealing with resistance but it’s still a TERRIBLE TOOL FOR DEFENDING YOURSELF. In a prison the inmate wants to kill the other inmate but he isn’t going to attack you because he doesn’t want 5 years tacked on to his sentence. If you are a CO or a bouncer or a cop and you break up enough fights using Aikido you start to think “oh hmmm this stuff works pretty well golly gee I’m really winning these fights these guys comply really quickly and I seem to have a lot of control but your confidence is FALSE!!!!!!! You are horribly horribly wrong. The reality of the situation is that you simply live in a world of advantage. You are going into every one of these engagements with the upper hand. Some day you won’t have the upper hand and someone will actually want to hurt YOU and they will ATTACK YOU and instead of ATTACKING THEM BACK WITH THE VIOLENCE OF ACTION you are gonna grab there thumb and break it then you are gonna grab there wrist and twist it all up and make it hurt and then you know what’s gonna happen. The killer in front of you is gonna keep coming because he doesn’t care about a broken fucking thumb he WANTS TO KILL YOU. People get shot multiple times and keep attacking do you think this ticklebutt shit is going to stop that person? Because THAT PERSON is the person I’m training to fight.

[@jeff7712]

Dan Means Dead f-n on! I have yet to see it work on a opponent that is 100% committed to being offensive and aggressively attacking you in either a violent street situation or in a mma sport setting.

[@mcmc1863]

@@jeff7712 sport setting, forget sport settings, refs, time outs, gloves etc etc. It works in real life, facts my friend, facts. Its the person that creates the problems of arts not working, includes boxing to.

[@nothingnewtome1]

MC MC what?

[@mcmc1863]

@@jeff7712 so are you a high level in aikido?

[@mcmc1863]

@@nothingnewtome1 its facts, that it works, people make it not work, fact.

[@jahlove9930]

We are all students of life! Aikido is the foundation of lots of techniques, that are used in many modern art forms. They are the experts in joint manipulation, locks and throws. It's very useful in real life, to have opinions apart from striking.

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[@southpawmoose]

AIKIDO stems from JJJ which is universal.. i see jjj in everysystem ive learned. As a greatswordsman once said. When you understand the way broadly it is found in all things.

[@Kthomasritchie]

I don't believe that's true. Aikido stems directly from the samurai, over 1000 years ago. It was a system used for an unarmed swordsman to face an armed swordsman. Ju-jitsu and all its forms came much later.

[@southpawmoose]

@@Kthomasritchie eh, formal school of Jujitsu around 17th century so "classical japan" the Tokogawa Shogunate. Which make since as durring this age, warfare was common and the age of the Bushi current, jujitsu was the unarmed componant of samuari training. Which make since as they do not teach weapons in Jujitsu. That would be saved for Kenjitsu and Yari-jitsu Now O Sensei claimed he built his system around Diato ryu Aiki-jujitsu.

[@randomsandwichian]

A Colonel of 30 years in the army commends Aikido, and the keyboard warriors say oh martial arts is dead it's all street fighting now. First things first, dirty tactics will win a few rounds, but a practitioners with the right competency and technique that maims you for life will always best any thug any time, bare handed or armed.

[@kobiesboxing4956]

I don't know about that Aikido stuff that Steven Siegal(check spelling) did in his movies, but I know a Navy Seals guy who showed me some real effective military taught Aikido.

[@kenokurose]

LOL you should tell this to rokas from martial arts journey channel...

[@Jdelli0916]

Rokas is looking at it from a street or MMA stand point. He has never been in the field of Law enforcement or military. I have said it many times before that Aikido works in these environments.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

I worked in Law Enforcement and was forced to teach some Aikido moves as an instructor. It doesn't work. I tried to tell my students that those particular moves were low percentage moves.

[@Jdelli0916]

@@shrimuyopa8117 I have also been in both the US Army and law enforcement. From my experience techniques we were taught do work in certain situations. If someone resisted (not faught) me, joint manipulation worked well.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

Are you talking about them tensing up or pulling away? Are we talking about size advantage or them being drunk, or female?

[@josec.marasiganjr.3983]

@@shrimuyopa8117 I guess your just learn aikido basics and never perfected it or mastered it and you never been to a fight.. it just like BJJ or Judo, if they resist or fight back you should know right away what to do.. it's situational dude not 1 move is good for everything.. I'm an amateur Muay Thai fighter here in Philipines and learn aikido and kali from law enforcement instructor and it really works.. Kali and aikido almost have he same principles..

[@sincerusone]

This was really great. Thank you. Such a mature conversation for a change. As a young adult I trained in a few serious styles, and had the privilege to learn in Canada from Patrick Augé Sensei Shihan-8th dan Yōseikan Aikidō Shihan. The "uchideshi of Master Minoru Mochizuki". Im not in those arts anymore but those were serious schools and not the immature machoism we see barking loudly these days, with such disrespect. Kudos on this video, may it be seen by many.

[@Michael-cf9lf]

Awesome.. That was a good conversation.

[@lancasterspades6558]

Wow 35 years in the Army, I didn't know one can be in service for that long.

[@davidcdun8896]

Martial Art Journey, a video for you.

[@justingilead2189]

Indeed. There’s a lot to pick up along the journey.

[@mangmiketeamtaiaha7256]

Aikido man seemed like a very lovely person. 👍

[@sebassanchezc-1379]

Most aikido sensei(s) are

[@simonedwards5220]

@@sebassanchezc-1379 Bullshit most are egotistical from not having to back up their art

[@JuandelaCruz001]

What the colonel said was pure truth. The Yoshinkan style still preserves the "harder" techniques of Uyeshiba (the founder of Aikido) as was practiced in his "jigoku" (hell) dojo before WW2. The techniques were still pretty much from the older samurai art of Daito-Ryu aikijutsu style. It was only after Uyeshiba's religious conversion that aikido radically transformed into something dance-like and softer. For example - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4G1Xmeopax9qpo

[@Bad_Wulf]

I am sorry but this is just incorrect. Forgive me. Compare pre and post war aikido, there are videos doing side by side comparisons, the old boy is doing exactly the same , and that same is indeed daito ryu. Traditional aikido as came to Europe in the 50's with kenshiro abbe, tadashi abe, nakazona, noro , kobyashi etc etc was as fluffy as a brick. The aikikai branched off postwar certainly, driven by a need to compete with shiodas yoshinkan style, but that was the teaching of the doshu the son, not O'sensei, trying to grow the organisation. The influence of Tohei at this point as chief instructor pre schism can not be underestimated. This was not the aikido of O'sensei. To achieve this the doshu sought to distance his teaching from the old boys religious mysticism, still the aikikai is a broad church. last week i practiced with a shihan in his 70's half my height (i am 6'4, 220lb with 35 years on the mat) and he bounced me around the mat like a rubber ball. There are plenty of us practicing hard solid aikido with martial integrity , the original pioneers where all budoka, abbe sensei was 8th dan Judo, 6 aikido, 7th kendo when he came over. he also introduces naginate, jukendo and a few others, a consummate martial artist and budoka who beat kimura in Judo, yeah that kimura the one who trashed helio gracie ... There is nothing new at all about MMA

[@salahuddinmuhammad3251]

@@Bad_Wulf The martial weakness came from his son and that International expansion. The man truthfully was trying his best to adopt a student and marry his daughter off. Kisshomaru was not a martial person, at all. neither was Tohei. Sorry, they just weren't. Look at how often he tried to avoid giving it to someone else. He was an accountant/administrator. Ueshiba sensei was solid. His Pre-war crowd was solid. That International expansion sent our very young teachers. I would have tried to find a more martially suitable heir too. He really did try. None of them wanted it. Was it the position or his daughter? lol. Just kidding but none wanted it. His attempts were quite telling.

[@mcmc1863]

True, ive trained in daito ryu for 26 years, fully competent art, more than most

[@tydeusson]

Much of Aikido is mechanically sound. The real issue is the level of skill in training. Aikido is defensive and responds to attacks it's not designed for attacking. In training it's not easy to fight high level strikers or wrestlers etc to train on a regular basis with to develop every dojo and practitioner. There are other psychological reasons that can cause high level strikers wrestlers etc to not go as hard as they would in a boxing or wrestling gym (politeness playing a big part, even unconsciously ). As a result Aikido often suffers from inadequate stress testing in training.

[@Bad_Wulf]

...sen sen no sen ...

[@joshuakeeler82]

Aikido suffers from no stress testing.

[@bsclaeys]

@@joshuakeeler82 Aikido only suffers from an uneducated population.

[@joshuakeeler82]

@@bsclaeys How should they attain education when its readily available all around them?

[@speedy1ne921]

very humble great guy

[@TheDeshi100]

You are right sir about the aikido problem is with how it is being interpreted. You may want to look into the Iwama aikido where weapons are part of their curriculum and see how this so called “hard aikido” works

[@tonymorales2099]

Nice great conversation on Aikido

[@jogon2485]

good vid now this is what it is all about finding the source an been real with it use it for its full force ive trained for a few yrs now and ive come to a point were i think for right or wrong but all m.a are the same when i look at certain styles/ systems all i see is the principles just a slight different approach need more vids like this one its a good watch keep up the truth👊🏼

[@moussakieffolo]

Amazing. Great great ! Short but enlightening.

[@michealpuckett8856]

Great presentation

[@willmaier4134]

The challenge with talking about the street worthiness of Aikido is that one has to compare "apples to apples." I've been in the martial arts nearly 50 years. Although my main study has been Ninjutsu (I teach a Modern version of it, as opposed to the classical Bujinkan system) I've studied a bit of both the Ueshiba and Tomeki styles, and there are differences in their respective approaches. One must remember that the more street applicable version of the art is really the older Aikijujutsu, and the Taijutsu of Ninjutsu (Ueshiba and Takamatsu, the 33rd grandmaster of Togakure-ryu, Ninjutsu, and Hatsumi's teacher were contemporaries and did some training together) which included atemi-waza which was taken out in Ueshiba's later "do" version. Like every other martial art, the effectiveness depends, in large, on who's teaching it and what their emphasis is. Is the art taught for street effectiveness, for developing harmony, or for a cultural exercise? One of the biggest challenges to the street worthiness of Aikido and other arts is that they are practiced against a willing uke, one who doesn't try to counter or resist the techniques.

[@knh5954]

It is so funny how people try to mystify and find a one size fits all, I will let you in on a secret... it ain't rocket science. STRIKE/KICK or GRAB/TWIST. It all comes down to those two. Not difficult to understand, no magic, different techniques for different situations, DO NOT LIMIT YOURSELF. If you plan on doing MA for awhile, you will get bored, eventually, with some of the simpler strike/kick styles, be thankful there are other grab/twist arts to study; whether they are on the ground or standing. I got into Aikido, after wrestlng, TKD and karate for medical purposes, it does not look good to punch patients spewing blood, flipping out on drugs, alcohol, or having psych issues in the back of an ambulance. Aikido led me to Security, Exec Prot. and investigations, where I learned to appreciate it more. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And even if you win your court case for excessive force, you will still loose all your money, lawyers are not cheap. I never had to find that out the hard way.

[@MikeEHY]

KNH well said.

[@mcmc1863]

Yeah, well said, it becomes a male ego/pride thing to say or think you can punch and kick and that makes you a man blah blah

[@rice6682]

Yep sanka jo, nikka jo, kote gaeishi, ikka jo, kiri otosh, hiji shime etc simple techniques but done properly very effective.

[@Zack1440]

Great video. Great message.

[@craigrushworth5775]

Love the "Watch this Watch This ..BOOM " moment. ha ha ha, well done

[@chuckpoyner4445]

It's like any other fighting style , if they can touch you , you can touch them. It can be used to stop the fight before it becomes a street fight.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

You can talk about it working and being effective but that is still anecdotal. I want to see it before I start training it.

[@mcmc1863]

Bit moronic really, its the PERSON that makes it fail, NOT the art.

[@shrimuyopa8117]

If that's the case let's see it. Stop saying it works until we see it.

[@mcmc1863]

@@shrimuyopa8117 have you learnt it? If not, learn it and you'll see. When did you last see anything working, specifically a martial art and a specific technique?

[@shrimuyopa8117]

When I do a single leg takedown on someone who doesn't want to get taken down, it works! When I sit in side control against someone who doesn't want to sit in the bottom of side control it works! When I wrap up a kimura and bend someone's arm with it, it works. When I throw a straight left punch, pivot and follow up with a straight right it works. When ever I tried Aikido moves that I learned in law enforcement THEY NEVER worked when there was real resistance from the start. And I could have been seriously hurt when fighting inmates if I hadn't of had other tools to help me. I have only seen Aikido work on complaint people who were being demonstrated on. I eventually became an instructor at the Academy and was forced to teach those same stupid Aikido moves. I had to secretly tell my students they were very low percentage moves. If it works, PROVE IT! Tell me if I am wrong but Aikido is meant to control people from a standing position (generally speaking) and or take them to the ground. It sounds like a good place to prove that would be in Judo tournaments. Go show us!

[@mcmc1863]

@@shrimuyopa8117 during door work, in very unsavoury pubs in london, i was in situations many times, it kept me out of harms way, kotegaiesh or nikyo two extremeley effective techniques for changing peoples minds

[@SoldierDrew]

Tenshin Gakuen Bugei Ryu is a very eclectic style that fuses Aikido evasive footwork, daito ryu jujutsu, okinawan karate and kenjutsu .

[@Vvrroommm]

Suggestion: Do a video on Kajukenbo. Success in scraps: Seems that the successful individual in a scrap ( fight) tends to have a better plan A than the other guy. While its good to have a plan B and pisdibly a plan C, having a plan A that is strong 💪 and smart to the point that you wouldn't ever need tour plan B will yield more success in a fight. If your plan A is to observe the aggression and threat of an individual building ( clinched fist, furlowed...umn umn meant furrowed brow.. Tight lips.. Tense neck..tense body posture)..& tour plan A is to observe and flee ( create distance quickly) ..then if this works for you 8 out of 10 times then your plan A is strong 💪 and smart. This plan works for everyone involved because no one gets into a fight to get hurt. However if the 2/ 10 times gets you stuck in a fight where you could not flee for some reason ( the person grabbed you or was faster than you and caught up with you).. You will have to have a plan B that allows you to be strong 💪 and smart. You'll need to develop a reliable skill set: 1) gross motor movement/ skills 2) refine motor skills/ techniques Gross motor skills are more boxing, wrestling, kick boxing Refined motor skills are Akidio, jiu jitsu ( Japanese especially), jiu jitsu ( Brazilian), Kung Fu ( Wing Chun especially), FMA (Philipino/ Filipino). More important than an art is your confidence in knowing yourself....knowing your body. Your ability of self awareness.. do you know your body well..if you trip over a rock do you know your ability to recover. If someone swings or kicks or both at you do you know your ability to dodge and duck and squat and roll and stand and do this kind of movements over and over if necessary. Focus on mastering knowing your body and your ability to maneuver. Think obstacle course. Think fire 🔥🔥🔥.. Stop.. Drop.. Roll.. Think ohhh shit...duck and cover.... A great art to learn a lot of this is found in Wing Chun. Even the gross motor skills can be learned in this art if the students are sparring with some decent level of intensity and they are focus on street fight or just street shit in general. You can also develop your gross motor movements by tge before mentioned.. Working on your maneuvering before you learn an art.

[@veiledallegory]

This only works on someone who is not resisting or isn’t hyped up on drugs or alcohol. By the way adrenaline acts like a drug. They don’t care if you grab their fingers! They’ll break their own fingers twisting out of it. Just because someone is a cop or in the military doesn’t mean they are correct about anything. You can find just as many military and cops that completely disagree!

[@UUJman]

Tasters and guns don't work on these people either.

[@jamescarter4005]

Was this at the convention in Vegas? Looks like the one I was at!

[@laztoth3104]

EVERYTHING IS A TOOL... DON'T CLOSE YOUR MIND 🙏🙏🙏🏻☯️☯️☯️☯️

[@kuroryudairyu4567]

Everything which is useful is a tool, NOT merely everything

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Great video!!! :)

[@m.jenkins8503]

Good informative video. I want to see more akiaido pre ww2.

[@ssw4m]

If you assume that everyone who isn't carrying a sword is carrying a knife, and that everyone who is alone has friends around the corner, Aikido makes a whole lot more sense. If you don't assume that, and you play on the streets, sooner or later you are going to get knifed or curb-stomped. Souce: I forgot, and got knifed.

[@JGato-ii6ky]

I keep saying aikido is an element in every martial arts.

[@AZTigerMMA]

Aikido works for LEOs that deal with half complaint/resistant people being arrested - that’s where it begins and ends. As soon as they start punching its wrestling or boxing -

[@mcmc1863]

Dont be a moron now, it shows how little you really know

[@avjthaifighter2121]

GN I would like to give another name of someone I believe is an well rounded martial artist with an open mind and an Aikido background BRUNO OROSCO. He blends fitness, striking, bjj, knife and other weapons into his videos. Reminds me of Mexican version of Mr. Ryan Hoover

[@streetwisetactics]

There is a difference between a "fight" and a conflict situation... I was a bouncer for many years and used restraint holds on people sometimes they work sometimes not. If you have the element of surprise you can get good holds that wouldn't work against a white belt is sparring (BJJ)

[@capnnukasun810]

Mature conversation.

[@valentincastelo]

birankai nidani i am proud to see that we are not being laughed at by military

[@JSTIZZY189]

Somebody please share this video with lenny sly., he will love this vid

[@ironjavs1182]

Aikido has also staff and katana (bokken) practising... And some technicues really needs weapon to hand that you can fully understand why some things are done like they are done... Rokas asked to show aikido that works... Well if I take katana to my hand and hit with that??? That's aikido there... I think it works?

[@hectoraplicano5736]

The problem with aikido its that it was not meant to be primary martial art , but to provide a set of skills that will allow you to take advantageous ( not sure of the spelling) angles and distances to combine with your primary martial art

[@jasongibbons6169]

check out martial arts journey, a black belt aikido guy who understands that aikido never pressure tests and fails when applied to a resisting fighter. It might work 1/100 times against an untrained fighter but will not work with anyone trained where as something like BJJ has been shown to dominate many styles. Yes styles can be rated

[@Hexogentrinitro]

Great video!!

[@danhiser4891]

If you use it in sparring you get to where you can do a lot of arts,the reason I can use my danzan ryu is from sparring,and my background in full contact,and mma ,ive used traditional karate in telling fights,but that's cause I've been in real fights,

[@foxyrage4304]

Finally some one who doesn't talk crap on aikido

[@skip741x3]

In regards to Aikido or Any martial art for that matter, The effectiveness depends on How its been Taught and then How its Applied by the Practitioner... That application will directly depend on their dedication and commitment to making it work...

[@remusstealth9419]

there are some that can make aikido work and there are some that never will its so simple its not the art its the person!

[@mcmc1863]

Well said

[@shellfaith8432]

PreWorldWar Ueshiba taught Daito Ryu AikiJujutsu not Aikido. Very different doctrines, purpose, applications.

[@adamgriffithrn1]

Great video! So is it fair to say that if we are really looking for functionality in what we do, we have to get out of our own heads when we consider something different? It takes maturity and discipline to admit that one of your beliefs is wrong.

[@jamescarter4005]

Yep, he told you the truth. And now you know. I've been showing people the same.

[@imbradtaylor]

Yoshinkan Aikido is the style I am training in now.

[@mikeandrew8973]

AND boxers are Slippery, sweaty & Vaselined. Bonded hands . & for every collar tie a boxer dose a Aikidoer Strikes

[@vukan0008]

thank youuu I don't want to seem cocky, and be the "my art/style is the beeest" kind of guy, I'm just happy to see such positive talk about Aikido after only hearing nothing but how shit it is. As the guys said, it's just a tool in the box, but it will definitely always be my personal favourite, since it's the first art/style I trained, is the reason I fell in love with concepts of fighting in general and that I wanted to explore this newly discovered world further and further. That was around a decade ago, and today I am a Real Aikido first degree black belt, and have also been training kickboxing for 2 years now. Again, I hope it doesn't look like I'm bragging or anything like that. It just occurred to me, this might be the time where I can finally share my love for this art with someone, without having to hear either the "yeah, but what would you do if i do this" question, or nothing but critique. Don't get me wrong, critique is good and very much needed. All I ask is that you at least try to look at it in a different way. And that is exactly what happened with you today, GN, thank you so much for that. And of course all the guys that helped you "joining our Aikido application club". 😂

[@CLARKSCANADIANOUTDOORS]

well we saw how successfully Rhonda Rousey was with simple judo over the years. It worked well for her for almost a decade. The arm bar as you know ended fights cold. I don't know why you wouldn't think an arm bar, or even a finger trap like the colonel was using would not work in a street fight.