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@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
Thermal talks about the guy being a robot cause he does the same thing every game. Meanwhile thermal has been playing all marine medivac for 52 games!
@uThermal Жыл бұрын
damn u got me
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
@@uThermal you should do his exact build against him just once, FOR US! We will forgive you for deviating from marine medivac just that once.
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
@@Contriteone-.- maybe the other guy does too but is perfecting his one build right now. Or has his own challenges under different names.
@AXharoth Жыл бұрын
@@uThermal nah he didnt get you , you play a chalenge
@Waizing Жыл бұрын
I still think it was very close mayb make 2-3 more turrets around that right side think u coulda stayed at his 3rd to contain him
@SuperAwesomeHobo Жыл бұрын
I would say using a raven or 2 for support or detection is totally fine for this challenge
@RossRadikSherman Жыл бұрын
Especially this deep into the challenge.
@Necroneer Жыл бұрын
The anti-armor missile would be cool too.
@milletmongoose Жыл бұрын
For sure. We can consider this phase 2 of the challenge.
@bornts8944 Жыл бұрын
the raven just adds to the theme with anti armor making marines even stronger
@tharrod1 Жыл бұрын
agreed here
@berrieds Жыл бұрын
Ravens for vision and anti-armour in the late TvZ seems pretty justified, if a little OP. Just being able to see and destroy the creep tumors is nuts!
@tamanousJP Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE the addition of ravens to this challenge, especially since you always have lots of gas and are trying to hit top 16.
@cheesypuffs1342 Жыл бұрын
def love the high lvl play. Can't believe those ravens + micro won him the game!
@KaitlynBurnellMath Жыл бұрын
As someone who used to play zerg back in heart of the swarm, I was always really confused why MM terrans would float 1500 gas and not build ravens against me. Every time they did build ravens I generally lost. Just...detection all the time without scanning, and the spells are decent. If building a raven causes the Terran to do one less scan and get one more mule when they're on a mineral-heavy army, that sounds like a good trade to me. Anti-armour missile also seems custom-built for marines. I mean, yes, I know: there's practical reasons why MM Terrans don't build ravens in shorter games (need a starport with a techlab, but medivacs want a starport with a reactor). But in long games? Why not?
@cheesypuffs1342 Жыл бұрын
@@KaitlynBurnellMath i kinda miss the heat seeking missile spell. Byun & Maru would target their own medivac & boost it into zerg & protoss deathballs and then blizzard removed the ability :(
@davidjones5059 Жыл бұрын
top 50 cheaters 😂
@primary2630 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesypuffs1342lol I remember when they'd do that it was so epic
@anderandersson5229 Жыл бұрын
Zerg vs terran is just so naturally enjoyful to watch
@Laborejo Жыл бұрын
Finally, Ravens! That is more than fair. So many scans just for containing creep spread or hunting observers, that is not the spirit of the challenge, in my book. And the auto-turret is a robot-guy with a machine gun, so basically a Marine :)
@Lollonman1 Жыл бұрын
This game against Zerg was insane. Amazing job man!
@tamanousJP Жыл бұрын
Raven marine medivac is actually a really cool unit comp. Not really seen anywhere.
@anhtuanpda Жыл бұрын
Base trade to GM: Never fight head on, wait until opponents leave their base to base trade. Every unit to GM: You have to sit back until you finish making every Terran unit. Then you can go attacking. The micro will be insane.
@juanlezama3729 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a pretty nice challenge, the base trade to GM
@tharrod1 Жыл бұрын
holy crap, that would be funny
@SindarinElealar Жыл бұрын
Honestly, in that game vs. Mills at the point when you got his CC, if you just pulled back and destroyed everything outside the range of the tank on the low ground instead of going for the tank, it seems like you should be able to beat him; that's tons of extra damage and supply block for ages and denial of his natural for a while.
@milletmongoose Жыл бұрын
Executing the SCV when you could have forced him to build a refinery instead. That is brutal.
@xcel9769 Жыл бұрын
He was just gonna get stuck again haha
@Kevincentius Жыл бұрын
Amazing lol, 29:50 btw if someone wants to see it again
@djGiovanniP Жыл бұрын
You gotta add Ravens for detection and anti armour. I want this challenge to go as far as possible!
@momchilandonov Жыл бұрын
38:30 Enemy Terran floating on 2.5k gas :D I feel like he was also playing on a challenge to float on gas!
@adrianbyg5553 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see mass marines and reavens. I would enjoy see more or even add them to the challenge
@VinayKapadiaVK Жыл бұрын
Thermy: "Marines just can not kill X" Also Thermy: proceeds to kill X with his marines.
@youtubeforcinghandlessucks Жыл бұрын
in the forgg game, 36:20, your returning marines could load in a medivac and drop on his tanks while your in-base army engages his marines and keeps them busy
@Kasslim11 Жыл бұрын
3:59 "I made more marines which is more marine heavy" Thank you for your great wisdoms O-O
@blakedurrant9399 Жыл бұрын
Man with gun Marc strikes again. Legend says he comes with enough medivacs to block out the sun
@andersonsamson872 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Game 1 TvZ was amazing. Yes to Ravens for vision and anti armor if ultras are on route. That was probably one of the most intense games I've watched you play, let alone win. Sti watching the rest and had to drop a line on this. Well done!
@Wezelkonijn Жыл бұрын
Pure marine vs ultra, bane and infestors... Hold my hand Marc, i'm scared!
@pandahuakbar5470 Жыл бұрын
uThermal playing TvZ like it's Starship Troopers
@AndrewArts Жыл бұрын
I was thinking marine ravens would be a dope combo actually!
@petrowi Жыл бұрын
that SCV coulda made an extractor and unstick itself ;)
@Shitposter-yp7dj Жыл бұрын
Loved the zerg fight that was incredible
@vincentqiao5930 Жыл бұрын
10:29 There is a drone pretending to be a baneling...XD
@catbert7 Жыл бұрын
If not for sacrificing so many Marines trying to kill that Tank, it might have been a V.
@benhandyside61203 ай бұрын
Love how every marine had their own personal medivac!
@hats1642 Жыл бұрын
remember, ABS. always be splitting.
@anialator1000000 Жыл бұрын
Conditional exceptions make sense in GM MMR In my opinion. Like you are allowed to make up to 2 ravens at a time only if you confirmed your opponent is doing specific things such as Ultras or other capped number of units when the main build just can't really stop the opponents build without help (but like say tanks are only defensive). No "free losses".
@House3272 Жыл бұрын
+1 for Ravens. Personally think minus auto-turrets, they're support units like medivac's and are 'legal' for any challenge.
@user-mv2nn6rw2w Жыл бұрын
That fight with the low ground tanks at your main at ~35:30, if you're alphastar you can pull just a few SCVs from your third to flank the tanks from the low ground to draw thier attacks, which is technically doable by humans if you have the time to slowly analyze the situation and come up with the strategy, or if you remember the strategy for the next time. With that you will probably have enough marines left over to hold the rest of the marines later on, it was super close after all.
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
The mistake thermal made was to try to get that tank on the high ground in the beginning. He should've just killed those depots on the natural
@omegaslast Жыл бұрын
yep lost 2 medivacs and 20 marines and didnt even kill the tank. could have easily killed 400 minerals worth of supply depots instead. Sometimes i think the "good trade" is reserved for unit trades which makes no sense to me. right after that forgg exploited his lack of vikings and used the raven to harass him and occupied him for like 60 seconds with auto turrets. that was huge because it gave forgg so much time to recover. i think a viking should be allowed if opponents are leaving spell casters next to minerals (i wouldnt be surprised if forgg knows hes not allowed to build vikings)
@asimolok7 ай бұрын
insane games loves your commentary so in depth and funny
@ugabuga1361 Жыл бұрын
ravens should be allowed in every challenge. juts like medivac
@nilsdemello907 Жыл бұрын
I think anything that improves the Marines damage, you should do, the Raven´s anti-armor missile is a good way to see way Marines can do, against heavy armored enemies :)
@anonimus370 Жыл бұрын
I've been missing BeastyQT content, and lo and behold the mighty youtube algorithm starts recommending me you.
@crazycat1380 Жыл бұрын
10:29 there is a drone hidden in those banelings
@marzix427 Жыл бұрын
That poor stuck SCV... could have built a Refinery
@mr_clean575 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever learned something from your challenges that you would apply to a professional match?
@milna64 Жыл бұрын
Upgrades add 10% (min 1). So if your unit deals less than 10 damage per shot upgrades are extra effective. Marines deal 6 which marines +3 marines deal 9 - 50% better! Interceptors and BCs vs air deal 5 so upgrades are even better for them. BC vs ground is the same as marine. Queens, reapers, high Templar and broodlings deal 4 so they are the units most affected by upgrades.
@CarterMitchell-pn8dm7 ай бұрын
Challenge Idea: Defense challenge. Win the game by turtleing up. Don't attack or harrass at all, just expand bases and try to absorb all of the map by just slowly expanding your defensive structures and units without attacking. Granted, this could take a while so you could end it in a few ways, maybe just turtle until like minute 10 or 15 or something, or until you have half the map, or until he is starve out.
@Kalenz1234 Жыл бұрын
Anti Amour missile increases Marine damage to ultras to 250%
@ryderdonahue Жыл бұрын
To elaborate more on the brightness, I find the GSL cast videos to have much higher gamma and less contrast, especially in the shadows which make the content much more readable and pleasant to watch.
@L76_Official Жыл бұрын
Couldnt your next series after skyterran be Doomdrop to GM? Would be hilarious to watch.
@ajm2872 Жыл бұрын
Playing mass marine is the closest a Terran gets to playing Zerg 🦂🦂🦂
@milna64 Жыл бұрын
I remember stim used to take exactly as long as CS + CS because if you had 2tech labs they'd finish together.
@TheCrazyDuck Жыл бұрын
I had to quote "Getting over it" when I saw the tank and Ravens: You Cheated Not Only the Game, But Yourself! Just kidding!
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
UThermal gets so many "free" units in every game, you'd think he would never lose!
@RobinLundqvist Жыл бұрын
Haha yea. “I can reach it”… with 2 marines
@crazycat1380 Жыл бұрын
3:27 you could've mineral walked the SCV into the zerg's base.
@seitavw Жыл бұрын
Vocab lesson of the day: when you have 1:1 ratio of Medivacs to Marines, its called a "cloud of medivacs" lol. Also, if you are splitting Marines more than using them in a deathball, its called "splitties". Lol. Amazing game, well done
@joeschmidt8856 Жыл бұрын
hey uthermal, you should do a game build where you drop supply depots from the command center before building more depots for supply. as a chellege
@blamasterk Жыл бұрын
if you have a rematch and are concerned they would know how you are (despite you having changed your pic) you could drastically change your glhf pattern, because it's very recognizable in its uniformity. So be the first one to write it and alter it in other ways.
@Quintilianator Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if we see an SCV union strike after that firing by firing squad
@slutmonke Жыл бұрын
i think the raven detection for creep is super underrated
@alk672 Жыл бұрын
uThermal's 3rd CC lands as I'm finishing orbital on my 2nd CC usually...
@hoofhearted4 Жыл бұрын
honestly, i think making a unit or two just to prevent the free loss is fine. like the Raven so you dont need to mass scan as much, or like if a Tank in the base stopped you from losing to a cheese or something. i get wanting to see if you can win solely my marine/medivac (or whatever challenge), but if a unit or two prevents a loss, but doesnt contribute really to the win, then i think its acceptable. Basically, if the unit comp is what wins the game, then a few supporting units here and there should be acceptable.
@davef5916 Жыл бұрын
cleaned up SO much creep with the ravens wow.
@fruchu Жыл бұрын
That was the sickest TvZ I've ever watched :)
@raphaelaldenmendoza8468 Жыл бұрын
Love binge watching the challenges from start to finish
@monkeybutt2270 Жыл бұрын
damn those splits are actually damn good
@dmitriyzverev6560 Жыл бұрын
What could be better than well marinate - M&M )) love it. Definitely you need ravens not more than 2, to turn off not than more 4 tanks
@NecroSexy Жыл бұрын
@30:44 , trying to kill the tank cost you
@SystemsDevel Жыл бұрын
uThermal what an ultralisk destroyer game! you rock! can you PLEASE do a game with Marine Medivac WidowMine?? you can stim marines and advance with drilling claw mines should be sick!
@Zamiroh Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you built a few ravens, no point in needlessly losing!
@gerbenrampaart8042 Жыл бұрын
thermy would you consider turning the upgrade notifications on which appear on the left? You maybe was asked this before and maybe you find the notifications annoying, but as viewer it's nice to see the combat shield and stim notifications pop up and how you time them.
@Peter-rn5bu Жыл бұрын
Should have slight edits to rules like ravens as the series progresses, QOL and better chances at the higher level, as long as the overall theme is the same; reaper start, a couple of tanks, couple of ravens, a few ghosts, use them as hero units sparingly but impactfully and it will be much more interesting especially against the highest rated players Maybe you can have primary units and then use other units as a one time "active" (as opposed to passive). if cool ideas pop up, the viewers will probably forgive you for making those creative impactful plays
@dude8351 Жыл бұрын
Dumb random idea: Zerg, -lisk to GM muta/hydra/ultra and nothing else I almost said lurker because in italian is called "criptolisca" lol
@user-mv2nn6rw2w Жыл бұрын
If you want to add ravens (detection should be allowed), you'd probably be better off if you make the decision before the next game so you can make up your mind what spells are allowed and mentally prepare yourself not to use autoturrets and/or scramble if you decide against that too. Would still much rather you went for it right from the start though, you'd probably be able to go much further with marine medivac + raven if you had more practice with it.
@cauchyschwarz3295 Жыл бұрын
2nd cheating within 2 episodes *shakes head in disbelief*
@sunken8068 Жыл бұрын
When does the Skyterran challenge start? Been looking forward to that for sooo long!!! XD Keep up the good work man!
@T1stG Жыл бұрын
i think ravens for support and detection is fine, something to sink all that extra gas into lol
@VeritronX Жыл бұрын
If you let yourself use an enhanced version with even just a couple of ravens I think you'd could probably get to top 16, being able to put a couple of tanks into timeout or anit- armour missle would be pretty helpful
@destonwong2577 Жыл бұрын
Fight against the zerg was amazing, did not thought uthermal will win.
@figuringitout4182 Жыл бұрын
awesome content as always . moving forward would totally be ok with you adding ravens or libs to break siege lines or deal with colossus . also defensive tank on each base seems ok with me . keep up the good stuff, big fan.
@txopin Жыл бұрын
It’s totally ok to go for phase II in the challenges. U did it before!
@onemember Жыл бұрын
I'm always super scary for those (full of units) almost 0 hp Medivacs for attacking o.0
@alk672 Жыл бұрын
10 marines healed by 100 medevacs killing a late game GM zerg is basically the best thing I've seen in Starcraft ever, and I've been playing and watching this game for almost a decade.
@user-om4yd5br8b Жыл бұрын
29:53 bro u don't have to kill poor innocent SCV that is stuck. There's a chance that it will move aside if you start a refinery!
@christophkeller6617 Жыл бұрын
for those who are into competitive sc2 i recommend the DH Atlanta EU Final between Reynor and Clem Also amazing content like always Marc :)
@InservioLetum Жыл бұрын
@uThermal I really wish there was a glossary of all the jargon you use. Terms like "rax", "my natural", " two one one" and "cheese". It took me MONTHS to work out what the word "finna" means, because almost everyone that uses the word isn't literate enough to translate it back to queen's english. You however are DUTCH! Would you be a sweetheart and save me months of investigation, Thermy? Engels of Nederlands is beide prima, meme Français oder selbst Deutsch. Awetism is ausome but I would really like to understand everything you're saying.
@davidjones5059 Жыл бұрын
lift Barracks and put in front of your base to see enemy before they come
@Supergoon1989 Жыл бұрын
I think Upgrades might matter most on Zerglings. Even more than marines.
@ackrite8139 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t it sadden you a little bit that you can almost top ladders with fun strategies and constraining yourself? Feels like there’s not much competition anymore these days
@rainerunsinn7952 Жыл бұрын
you really produce sick highlight games - i follow you now since the challenge 3 or so - you save replays of your crazy omega cool games ? a " best of" would be the best of terran starcraft ever !! and i play n watch since release 2010 ^^ so i ve seen a lot also all E sport highlights since 2011 - even after all this games n highlights - if its kas to Polt or bomber or MMA , innovation or special and so on n on - i saw them all =) , was also a fan of you in tournaments back n the days , n rooting for u , always like team liquid and tlo and co - and still ... you able to impress and foremost surprise me after all this time =) - didnt expert what u can pull from those challenges =) you really awesome sc player and a excellent commentator - grateful greetings
@uThermal Жыл бұрын
I send replay packs to my patreon subs and youtube members on my discord ^^
@seso5982 Жыл бұрын
i can´t wait for "Air -Terran Campain"-btw. no phases, or what?
@hoofhearted4 Жыл бұрын
just keep splitting, just keep splitting, just keep splitting, splitting, splitting.
@jessejames1590 Жыл бұрын
you could've picked up the stuck scv instead of executing him :(
@valpanig Жыл бұрын
you can build 2 tanks per command center in grand master league, raven for zerg to clean up creep
@DKCHEUNG Жыл бұрын
That game 1 was intense
@chrisgriffith1573 Жыл бұрын
Tough match-up... GG's.
@juanlezama3729 Жыл бұрын
Should try no retreat challenge: no attacking unit is allowed to go back to base, either kill or bee killed
@zanac76 Жыл бұрын
29:50 could also just airlift the SCV out with a medivac? :)
@momchilandonov Жыл бұрын
30:53 why is he not getting the free supply depots there? 100 minerals per each and first one was on 30% hp already.
@bakyra4683 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the challenge series :) Is there anything you've learned from challenges that you think is unknown or obscure in the current pro-players meta?
@justjoshingya504 Жыл бұрын
I think you should be allowed to use a viking to snipe drops from Terran strictly defense only I don't think that would be a problem
@sosocrazy1234 Жыл бұрын
Should be allowed to make ghosts w/o nukes vs ultras...
@VeryBadPlayerTV Жыл бұрын
Also once there are no more terran unit combos, is rank 1 the next challenge video? all units allowed
@ThePalatineHill Жыл бұрын
meat grinder strat while not that effective it certainly makes for entertaining matches
@boreduser12 Жыл бұрын
You'll need PFs at the edge of the creeps to fight against ultras