They Want To Ban Garchomp...but should they?

[@TheOftenElusive]

Just wanted to say, still loving those animated intros, they are legit so cool

[@triburst]

Personal favorite part

[@Cynsham]

straight up

[@IRoIN100]

Always click the video just for the imtro

[@agustinberto6138]

Hell yeah. They have become one of my favourite parts of joey's vids

[@ilikeapples24]

Gotta feel for Zangoose at this point

[@LombreFan]

"this is the most uu team you can run" ....bro that's OU

[@justinjeffries1554]

OH in gen 5 lmao

[@showdowncraft1659]

A gen 5 throwback

[@Trussme96]

Looking like BW2 OU all over again lmao

[@Takintomori]

SV UU looks a lot like Gen5 OU. Same as Gen 5 UU being a copy pasta of Gen 4 OU

[@shimogane2474]

gen5 + tinkaton(the ferrothron) and a zapdos

[@julianlastname5730]

Cons: Garchomp stuck in BL hell Pros: Garchomp in BL knights

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

We haven’t had BL knights since Gen 7. (They did like 1 video for Gen 8)

[@shimogane2474]

Staraptor has fallen... NU, not even BL3

[@kek13223]

23:57 That Azumarill would've had a crazy set if it were assault vest belly drum

[@davidwaxter66]

Yea idk why he was so worried about having belly drum

[@ryanrodriguez644]

@@davidwaxter66I think he thought it was leftovers for some reason

[@SweetzTheOne]

assault vest belly drum?? doesnt that not work with AV

[@coffeecreamguy]

@@SweetzTheOneAssault vest prevents non-damaging moves from being used, like Belly Drum for example

[@chukadoo1871]

that double knock turn had Joey all messed up 😅 lefties azu

[@PlasmaPony]

God looking at Pokémon now is wild. I haven’t played competitively for ages, way back in DPP, but seeing Pokémon like Garchomp dropping down to UU is so crazy to me.

[@tomasramirez2914]

The power creep in this game is ever so close to being known

[@qweschuning]

The creep is ridiculous

[@ASlopedRoof]

Dude after the gen 7 boost fest of a meta, ultra beasts and tapu seeds and megas, I wasn't gonna be suprised at all, pokemon were getting maxed out for their stat points. The best moves, typing, Stat distribution, and ability they could get.

[@shimogane2474]

It looks like after the power-crept stuff flooded OU and UBERS, the rest tiers have a similar powerlevel too. But it makes all the older gen mons having defined these lower tiers homeless...

[@Deadflower019]

Go one week without a Pokémon being banned in an upper Gen 9 tier challenge (impossible)

[@auroraourania7161]

Tbh a lot of the mons he's made videos about and not followed up on don't end up getting banned. Smogon as a whole are being pretty active with suspect tests (partially due to the backlash against too much quickbanning this gen), but fewer of them are resulting in bans than in previous generations.

[@jtizzle124]

The lower tiers are even more unstable

[@azazel2205]

The Cinccino PTSD is real man.

[@majaco]

24:00 Assault vest belly drum Azu. My favorite set.

[@kingbulbasaur9460]

"don't even have to predict"... You're lucky ctc or blunder wasn't there, they would've had some choice words

[@InvinciMo]

Ggs Joey, Im extremely disappointed with my play against you. I used a team i didnt build as well so it was unfamiliar. You played flawlessly. I had to try and catch something with +2 scale shot against tink. Well played sir! You are the goat

[@Rap4NoReason]

2 minutes in and Joey is getting Cinccino PTSD xDD

[@vessel__]

“I heard the song fly me to ou” Wasn’t ready for that

[@abscinding]

I hope Garchomp stays uu. Idc about the offensive set, i just love the work he puts in between hazards, rocky helmet and ability, and dragon tail every single game.

[@Brandon.thebaby]

very much agreed

[@SweetzTheOne]

its definitely healthy IMO, like its fine where it is in my opinion

[@mipho5899]

And it's mediocre in OU, so it at least has a place to stay without sucking.

[@seamus5979]

@@mipho5899 i agree that garchomp should stay uu, but thats a terrible reason if you want to keep it

[@mipho5899]

@@seamus5979 Yeah I know. I'm not going to collect suspect reqs anyways nor do I know how broken it really it. I just said that if there's are reasons to stay in UU, then I hope it does. It's up to the people who vote for that.

[@ernestomarcos0103]

23:53 Love how you hovered over Azu where it clearly read Assault Vest and you were still worried it'd be Belly Drum lol.

[@GameMaster-sh7tr]

Garchomp has one hell of a journey. Even in UU it shows way it was such a metagame threat in the previous generations

[@fencerderio9814]

Garchomp to OU if it gets banned: “I’M BACK, BITCHES!!!”

[@misters6749]

Then OU’s dragons: Welcone back little brother! Dance for us. Oh wait!!! You can’t 😂😂😂😂

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

Unfortunately it goes back to UUBL instead of up to OU.

[@tabhou7988]

Probably gonna be evicted out of OU because of gliscor

[@luxlumine8602]

​@@misters6749"here eat my scales you little dragonshite!"

[@luxlumine8602]

​@@misters6749"your multiscale can eat some scale shots instead, Dragonite!"

[@misters6749]

4:18: I hear the song fly me to UU. Me: who sung that? Meloetta?

[@justicicle9673]

"One day I'll undo October, and rise to OU. It's not Garchover"

[@Nadid_Dhrabb]

Pex, take advice while you can Amoongus is a wall with regen

[@voltrya6844]

230 views in 3 minutes, pokeaim didn't fall off

[@Brandon.thebaby]

i think chomp is in a really good place in uu, if it goes to uubl, it’ll just be as underwhelming in ou as it was before it dropped, at least in uu it can be used in a metagame where it’s king

[@Flapjack3734]

Seeing garchomp in UU is like seeing a washed up celebrity walking around your local grocery store & hardly anyone recognizes them anymore. but they still got that flame in their heart and WILL be beating the UU allegations

[@FlaminVictini]

Man garchomp being UU is FUCKED. disrespectful times we're living in.

[@HasXXXInCrocs]

Laddering in UU is crazy this gen. I got hard stuck at 1500 for almost three days where in early gen 8 is was literally top 50. Shout out to max-flying mew, that shit was busted.

[@Dr._is_sleepy]

Fly me to UU is a banger

[@cabrondemente1]

And let me play among the stats

[@smarkwick7814]

And let me see what spring is like for azumarill and crown

[@seanmccatharn8832]

When your typing is the weakest thing about you then in a tera meta game it’s always a potential problem

[@elchingon12346]

I see it as the GSC Snorlax of the tier. The good offensive ground types are all in OU sans Excadrill, and if it goes I predict Zap, Thundurus, etc taking over the tier.

[@Luna-Lux]

WHY DID YOU USE A SWORDS DANCE BOOSTED SCALE SHOT ON ZANGOOSE HE CANT SURVIVE THAT NOOOOOOO 😢😢😢

[@ichillin-]

This Gen7 OU team has always been consistent

[@olympia9921]

Its funny how all the UU teams are scarier looking than OU teams lol

[@confuseddragonedits2294]

I didn't even REALIZE it got Scale Shot back. All I remember was hearing "Oh it got nerfed when it lost Scale Shot" so I'm /shocked/

[@auroraourania7161]

My understanding is that valiant being everywhere is the big issue now. It's amazing at revenge killing (and potentially reverse sweeping you), plus it has just enough physical bulk to be able to swap in on the swords dance reasonably safely, meaning you're not even effectively breaking with it without tera.

[@blazenx56]

This UU team looks exactly like OU.OU meta team a couple years ago

[@pezyg]

Give my man DD please Gamefreak

[@SapphireDragonflame]

Garchomp being UU is as crazy as Skarmory being UU was last gen. Game freak really letting power creep get out of hand...

[@Magmatical]

Its really good but it has checks, I feel like its a mon holding UU together as its a good defensive/offensive mon

[@kungfudenny577]

Still wondering why they don’t give chomp dragon dance

[@nolanstone4723]

Expecting the assault vest Azumarill was wild. I guess it could happen, but not this time. I've never seen one. Kinda an interesting knock off counter.

[@Jkirek_]

Staraptor: first time? 🙅‍♂️

[@Tombofresh]

Before I watched I clicked on this thinking they meant OU to Ubers

[@microwaevy]

This is dope, I agree chomp shouldn’t be banned, he might be prevalent but I don’t think he’s unbeatable, it’s not even close to broken compared to the top 10 in OU, I think it’s just the right powerlevel to be the boss of this gen’s UU tbh

[@i.theworstguys298]

“they wanna ban garchomp” - me in 2007

[@infamousinferno2506]

I just wonder if Swords Dance Scale Shot Mega Chomp is any kind of a threat. The announcement of Legends: Z-A got me thinking about that.

[@tomasramirez2914]

Don't forget about the new item loaded Dice! Mega Gar might be a threat

[@ightddeeghhv233]

In gen 9 national dex, mega garchomp is hardly seen, however when it is used it’s usually a big threat.

[@infamousinferno2506]

@@ightddeeghhv233 Ah, fair enough. That's about what I'd expect. I don't play a lot on Showdown. Usually just the actual games. I'm hoping I'll be able to use Mega Chomp when Legends: Z-A is released and maybe even in Gen 10 if Megas are actually back and not just for Legends.

[@Latias38]

@@tomasramirez2914 If its holding a Mega Stone how is it holding Loaded Dice?

[@slashine1071]

Mega gar: Loaded dice: Since when can garchomp hold 2 items

[@captainhc]

i legit got on showdown in the first one in months to build a team for nat dex and i was like “oh hey. since when was garchomp in UU???” 🤣

[@sgt.zaitsev287]

They will ban everything but Gholdengo and Kingambit

[@WhamBam_TV]

I could understand chomp being banned if they’re at 50% usage and their existence in UU makes it so everyone is forced to run some random lower tier counter. But if no one in UU is building teams that are capable of handling chomp, is that really the mons fault?

[@cheruledge]

garchomp just has so many sets to already beat the good pokemon

[@ashwinnair3645]

I've been playing a lot of UU recently, and you honestly need to get lucky or play REALLY patient to sweep with Chomp. And I don't think the Tank set is worth a ban.

[@artje90]

i think it's funny that the agruements of banning alot of mons which garchomp falls under now can also be said about kingambit which they refuse to bann. heck even goldengo is way more meta determinating then alot of OU mons that got banned. at this point the bann list is more about favorism then actual a baseline which to act by. prove me wrong

[@oscen335]

Still talking ab gholdengo do you even play the format💀 Ghold is a good mon but has stopped being "meta defining" for a long time now

[@Drowser69]

Fly me back to OU!!!

[@leviistired3621]

I dont really know much about the UU meta, and have no say in garchomp, but i cant help but think its a gen 2 snorlax situation when I see iron moth at #2 in usage directlt under it lol

[@kop.amongus]

bro this team is straight out of gen 6 ou minus the tinkaton ... wait this is uu?

[@AriehAnkri]

16:05 i just have to say that tinkaton can OHKO mimikyu because of mold breaker

[@KuKuKlock123]

He’s wayyy too good. All of his sets are performing at an extremely good level for me. Choice sets, SD, Bulky. The best Volt-turn answer. It should’ve never been UU. But I did enjoy using the HELL out of it. Side note: no wonder I’ve faced all these uu6gs 😂😂

[@Dave_Chrome]

Garchomp potentially becoming a BL Knight is a wild thought

[@pinkykiduniya6388]

Bro hear me out my support chomp killed 2 mon and still had hp left that speaks for itself

[@Frostfire26]

25:45 We bringing back dragmag!

[@badsolja1]

I have some very fun teams I can pass you , if you don’t wanna use lily’s more standard builds

[@bangoouygi6372]

too bad for ou/ubers, too op for uu oh powecreep the things you do to us

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

ou is dominated by fast dragons and the grounds in OU all have better defensive profiles against the Meta

[@ca1um166]

No, just let my man be king of a tier again please. It ain't doing it in OU so just let us have this please

[@Green_Knight-PKMN]

First team feels like BW OU, just switch the tinkaton for a magnezone.

[@blockayethe2nd220]

Give that boy dragon dance asap

[@marzbar5877]

Day 118 of asking for Choice Specs Kingambit 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingambit Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Great Tusk: 436-514 (100.4 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Kingambit Steel Beam vs. 244 HP / 12 SpD Gliscor: 384-452 (109 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kingambit Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Dondozo: 372-438 (73.8 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Supreme Overlord 1 ally fainted Kingambit Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Alomomola: 268-316 (50.1 - 59.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Supreme Overlord 1 ally fainted Kingambit Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 240+ SpD Slowking-Galar: 198-234 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[@Unstressing]

I think we need a full reset on bans.....

[@Gogito4]

We are witnessing the birth of a new BL Warrior!

[@lordmonarch2995]

Oh if it should be banned from UU but used in OU? IDC. As long as it’s not Ubers. While they’re at it they should bring back Chi-yu, Chien-pao, the Dolphin, Baxcalibur and the bridge. Esparta being unbanned would be nice too

[@jobon7708]

No leave chi yu and chien pao in ubers

[@richieaflleje]

The os's(Lati and Zap) and even an us are UU? Sheeeeesh

[@metawolf987]

Smogonites just cannot stand Garchomp not being OU.

[@Hispaniccaseoh]

I think I might be mentally ill but I used physical defense rough skin rocky helmet endure garchomp 💀

[@dumpgubblin]

garchomp go brazy to this day

[@liam2384]

who’s the little guy beside Prof. Aim in the intro?

[@pokeaimMD]

that's my lil homie

[@politoed06]

Garchomp in BL hell... Just like gen 4 all over again lmao

[@FepeProg]

Don't say chomp is UU, just say it's in the same tier as latios 😉

[@Frostfire26]

Toxapex also being in UU is pretty wild to me considering it's very viable in OU

[@uribevaldezargenis8862]

Alo having scald and flip turn outclasses Pex, hard to justify running pex then, especially when you also have to run dozo in stall so three water types isn't ideal

[@ethanhall2655]

Better to rule in BL than serve in OU.

[@dspac1760]

Fly me to UU (BL)

[@BoShmoover]

I thought he was playing UU not BW OU smh

[@swiftbuizel]

I know this is a Chomp video but what do you mean zapdos is UU now 😭

[@suryave]

Probably might have to do with Raging Bolt

[@Bennerwoo]

The answer is no

[@Coffeemancer]

one draco one like

[@ericxiong9790]

Unban CTC‼️🗣️‼️

[@Saltyape0]

May 10th can’t come any sooner🙏

[@kb6993]

hell yeah garchomp on every team in uu

[@ZerupyLikesCookies]

why are you always using zangoos in the intro

[@ashemabahumat4173]

...that's UU?

[@drewvolpe6831]

No, the council is so soft nowadays

[@oscen335]

This aint even ou council😭

[@SharpLCDTV]

@@oscen335 these niggas do NOT play the game I'm convinced

[@tonyguava]

chomp is on almost every team, seems overbearing

[@firewall5189]

wtf is deoxys speed doing in uu lol

[@JacobH93]

Good ole OU lite

[@fsgdevil7959]

Just unban iron hands again 🤷

[@CptChrispy]

The whole point of having tiers is for every mon to have a home, so if even a single mon is lost to the abyss that is BL, then the system has failed and needs to be overhauled. On another note, why is the best Garchomp UU (or maybe UUBL), but the strictly worse Sand Veil Garchomp is Ubers even though it has 0 usage in Ubers and would have 0 usage in OU or UU if it was legal in either of those tiers? Blah blah randomness w/e, it is just strickly worse, end of story. Maybe you get the miracle low percentage dodge or two once, but on average Sand Veil is far worse.

[@rbb480]

I've seen you in aim's comment section in another vid saying the exact same things you're saying here despite having been told off by several other people on why the points you're making are flawed. At this point I think you're either intentionally being disingenuous and close-minded or just trying to argue with people for whatever reason. Most likely both at the same time

[@CptChrispy]

​@@rbb480 I have pointed out the flaws in any arguments I have gotten when I have had the time. Still stand by my point, which is why I still make it. People can have their opinions about what should be, and that is fine, but I care about objective balance, I fully admit that if the tiering system is about fun and not about balance, then my argument is no longer valid. Not sure what you want me to say...

[@rbb480]

​@CptChrispy You're right, people are free to have their opinions. I personally think the tiering system is fine, but as you said, to each their own. What I meant to address with my original comment, however, was your lack of honesty. In your original comment here that you've also posted elsewhere on aim's channel, you claim that Sand Veil is strictly worse than another Garchomp set while phrasing it as a question that you are very clearly looking for people to answer. While you've already gotten your answer from other people elsewhere on the channel, you're now shutting down any attempts for the very discussion you're trying to have to take place by acknowledging and dismissing in an unserious manner the entirely valid arguments others have made in response to your claim and shutting down any further attempts of a proper discussion by concluding it with "end of story", thus leading me to believe you're being disingenuous. I'm in no position to tell you what to think or whether you're right or wrong, but you could at the very least try to have an honest discussion about the objective balance you say you care so much for.

[@CptChrispy]

@@rbb480I'm shutting down arguments that are false that can be made before anyone tries to make them. "Why is sand veil banned?" is a conversation that can be had. My point is "It is broken" is not a valid point to be made. So make another point, so far I have not gotten a good one. It is one point in my greater argument that the tiering system as it is currently used has very little to do with actual balance. That is also a discussion that can be had, but I only get either strawman arguments in response or people trying to make points that are just plain factually incorrect. And yes, if you try to tell me the system is balanced because 2+2=5, then I will shut down your argument.

[@CptChrispy]

@@itztaytay2 "You should not be rewarded for getting consistently lucky with no backup strategy." Hello? How many times does someone run Focus Blast with no other backup strategy. Literally every damaging attack in the game is a damage roll (with only a few exceptions of set damage attacks), crits happen, this game is loaded with RNG, it is unavoidable, why would anyone who is not ok with RNG play pokemon. Part of the competition is team building, and something any competitive person knows is how to use the illusion of choice to your advantage. Does sand veil introduce more randomness, sure, but on average, it is strictly worse. The opportunity cost of giving up rough skin is not worse a highly restrictive ability that still does nothing 80% when it is active, and does actual nothing when sand isn't up. I pray that opponents with inferior strategies line up in front of me. Will I lose maybe 5% of the time in a match I should win, sure, but that means 95% of the time I have a huge advantage that I would not have otherwise.

[@IchigoKurosaki-iq6ox]

Garchomp´s not ban worthy let it stay in UU

[@ZdsZodyrus]

day 15 of asking if i can collab with you for some of these videos

[@dussa472]

Get him out

[@b2e297]

Chomp’s about to be the BL knights strongest soldier

[@kabutoex2]

Free chomp from uu

[@robertjimenez5111]

Isn’t this just smurfing?

[@pokeaimMD]

unfortunately you have to start from 0 for reqs haha

[@williammuir5610]

Fir- No i'm better then this I'm just here to watch the video

[@widexawake_]

First?