They Weren't Expecting a 12 Year Old Girl...

[@TheCasualCriminalist]

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[@levianderson1922]

I've been ask for this

[@C2K777]

The age of criminal responsibility in England & Wales is 10 Simon. From that age through to 17 they can be arrested and tried in court. Pre trial assessment of the child and case would be handled by the Youth Justice System & a custodial sentence would place them in a Young Offenders Institution where they can remain until the day of their 21st birthday at the very latest. In the most serious cases ( think of the Jamie Bulgar killers) the Crown can petition for the child to be subject to sentencing guidelines for an adult of an identical crime if a conviction is secured. If this petition is granted then the child still retains their right to anonymity & media organisations are legally bound over not to make public any information that could identify the child if they are aged 17 or below and this legal protection remains effective for the minors entire life. So there you go

[@jessebranesky7063]

Hahaha right

[@Draig-zb2tx]

Who else has been listening long enough to remember when Simon was anti death penalty?

[@jamesrussell7432]

Those days are gone 😂

[@randallcraft4071]

Its funny to watch old Simon stuff, its like watching an idealistic upper middle to upper class European seeing how people actually are out side of the private school bubble and becoming the cynical centrist American who may still look out from their ivory tower but see past the rose tinted glasses of the youth of the upper class.

[@Draig-zb2tx]

@randallcraft4071 funny but also kinda weird personally. Being myself an upper middle class European. Difference is i've remained staunchly anti death penalty. But Simon's change of hearth, although very understandable, does make me think about how the abolition of the death penalty is one of those big humanitarian concepts that people *learn* is good, but can't necessarily justify why.

[@altairofastora]

It's sad watching someone who wanted to see the best in people, and believe that they could be reformed, realise the reality that most criminals discussed in CC aren't 'people' like you, I, or him, but genuine monsters. And that sometimes the only way to deal with a monster is a quick way out before they can be let to do harm to others ever again. Reality runs on pragmatic truths, not idealistic ignorance, after all. Also, a huge reminder of when I had a very similar mindset to younger Simon lol, though I generally agree with a lot of his judgements on cases.

[@RitzStarr]

That's pretty much how it goes. You start as a child with an innocent view of the world thinking everyone is good and happy and frolicking in rainbows. And then you grow up and realize monsters exist and letting them continue living is too good for them. Prison isn't great but you still get to experience joy, you get to eat food, buy snacks, exercise, watch tv, feel the sun on your skin. They deserve none of that for what they did.

[@DGeffel15]

You could have just called this episode “Don’t Fuck Up Your Kids”.

[@jorgelotr3752]

But then that would be the title of at least 60% of the episodes...

[@DuckiDrawzzStuff]

Name almost every episode that

[@comettamer]

True

[@sparksi2519]

You spelled "series" wrong.

[@DuckiDrawzzStuff]

@ *wheeze*

[@audreymuzingo933]

I have so often heard people say that kids "bounce back" more easily than adults, as if not shutting down or freaking out is the same as healing. It's not. When you see a kid quickly become capable of acting "normal" or even happy after a traumatic experience, it's because their brain is still learning what normal is, so even horrific stuff gets catalogued as normal, when it really should register as horrific. In other words kids don't really bounce back, they _deform_ in ways that are virtually guaranteed to be problematic later. BTW I'm talking strictly about kids who don't get any kind of therapy of course.

[@ladylaurus8493]

Thank goodness I got therapy because when I was a kid grown men were doing things to me that I was registering as normal unfortunately

[@benjie128]

Their brains are literally wiring what is "normal." it's why everyday on reddit someone asks about absurd things and everyone in the comments are telling them it's unusual, never heard of, or even ab*sive. What is obvious to some, is totally foreign for others bc they were born and raised or conditioned/groomed for that environment. This can range from anywhere from innocuous like the "poop knife" story to as harmful as the one where all the females in the family were considered fair game to r*pe/mol*st by the male members.

[@benjie128]

Their brains are literally wiring what is "normal." it's why everyday on reddit someone asks about absurd things and everyone in the comments are telling them it's unusual, never heard of, or even ab*sive. What is obvious to some, is totally foreign for others bc they were born and raised or conditioned/groomed for that environment. This can range from anywhere from innocuous like the "poop knife" story to as harmful as the one where all the females in the family were considered fair game to r*pe/mol*st by the male members.

[@rickwilliams967]

Not even close to what that phrase means. That refers to children being able to resist or recover from injuries more quickly than adults, which is one hundred percent true.

[@audreymuzingo933]

@@rickwilliams967 Yes so it's very stupid when they say it about emotional injury because then it's one hundred percent untrue.

[@robincowley5823]

Sharon Carr is terrifying. I can't see a situation where she could be released. I do feel a tiny bit sorry for her - she is seriously broken. But society needs to be protected from her, and I think that anyone charged with the responsibility of looking after needs danger money.

[@emeryltekutsu4357]

I think it should be, "Are you a danger to society?" If yes - They don't come out of prison. If no - Then they can be released. There should be no situation where other people have to be guinea pigs to see if a psycho killer is still a psycho killer. The judges who decide to release them should have to prove that they believe they're safe by living in the same neighborhood as them. If you're not willing to live next to them, then you shouldn't be able to say that anyone else should have to.

[@alexm51827]

I LOVE the Bones reference lmao. It’s been my favorite show for so long, and I feel like it doesn’t get enough credit for being as awesome as it is

[@MelinaGrimes]

Agreed, my, my mom, and my sister have all rewatched it over at least 5 times

[@kripar3117]

I am rewatching Bones now, since I was home for six weeks after major surgery, I’m on season 11 and love it just as much as the first time I watched.

[@MelinaGrimes]

@ I find it so hard to enjoy shows for some reason but I’ve rewatched bones so many times, I love the show

[@annettemattheyse2460]

Love the show but the actress irritates me, so can only watch 1 or 2 episodes at a time.

[@annemettefrederiksen7751]

Sorry, but even though im a crime show fan ,I find Bones extremely irritating and to be honest,absolutely flat and uninteresting im afraid, especially tje main character and her job..I work in a hospital morgue/pathology, absolutely nothing real in that show but the scalpel we use

[@amemooress6291]

The "unlocked achievement" edits 😂😂😂😂 loved em

[@robertpotter2659]

😅❤

[@ladylaurus8493]

Honestly, what Simon said about surviving horrific things as a child and impacting you as an adult is so true… I had eight years of my childhood/teen years stolen from me starting at 11 years old and it still affects me to this day and i’m still quite young compared to how old I feel

[@glareicebutts1423]

That math doesn’t add up

[@ladylaurus8493]

@@glareicebutts1423 how doesn’t it add up? I would consider 19 as a child, even though they’re technically legally adults because they’re still technically teens *and the brain doesn’t fully develop until at least 25 and it feels even longer if you’re developmentally disabled. The fact that you seem to think that my math does not add up and are using that logic in order to try to discredit me just kind of shows how little empathy you have… For eight years of my life, I was taken advantage of by older men to be used for their pleasure. Do you know how that feels to be targeted because you were a vulnerable child?

[@ladylaurus8493]

@@glareicebutts1423so you want me to tell you exactly what happened after I aged out of the foster care system where exploitation is swept under the rug? They hunted me down and did it again when I turned 19

[@geniferwheeler-price756]

I didn't even suffer the horrific level of abuse some of the people suffered in the circumstances put forth in these videos but I did experience toxic family dynamics and even what I'd describe as abuse but never to the level here. That dynamic/abuse has stayed with and impacted every major decision I ever made and still impacts me to this day.

[@ladylaurus8493]

@@geniferwheeler-price756 I am so sorry that you had to deal with that… Abuse in* all forms and intensities does a lot of harm for children and the adults *that* (speech to text and autocorrect mess me up) those children grow up into. I hope you’re getting the help you need.

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:45 - Mid roll ads 3:20 - Back to the video 6:40 - Chapter 1 - Nature or Nurture ? 14:30 - Chapter 2 - The attack 19:50 - Chapter 3 - The murder 23:55 - Chapter 4 - The diaries 27:55 - Chapter 5 - The devil's daughter 34:45 - Chapter 6 - "I was born to be a murderer" 36:55 - Dismembered appendices

[@cristianquintana2832]

Thank you Simon, Emma and Robert. Miss you Jen.

[@jenniferlindsey2015]

I actually would like to see a video about voodoo. I’d watch an hour of that!

[@hannah51238]

Yes to this please

[@shawnnewell4541]

I have schizoaffective disorder with psychosis but I never did anything like Sharon did. I was rediagnosed as bipolar 1 once the hallucinations stopped. I've got to say I didn't realize how dangerous my diagnosis was until this show. My mental health professionals didn't go into this side of the illness at all.

[@Lukasonthefloor]

I don't think shizoaffective in itself is a dangerous diagnosis but it can worsen an already violent persons behavior

[@GustavoCardoso95]

They probably didn't go into that because your case must not be so severe and you didn't show any sign of violent behaviours on this level

[@jooleebilly]

I believe that you are an example of the fact that the vast majority of people with "scary" diagnoses aren't bad people. At all. It's an illness, and people who have it deserve to be treated with dignity. And of course, treated for their condition like you would any other illness. The treatment that gives a person the possibility of a decent life. I dealt with a lot of stigma when I was diagnosed as Bipolar II after I had a paradoxical reaction to Reglan (that I was given many, many times to stop getting sick to my stomach). Also, I have extreme anxiety and Autism, so I tend to infodump and talk way too much when I'm nervous. Anyway, after 10 years of carrying that diagnosis because it was passed from psychiatrist to psychiatrist - AKA "Congestive Chart Failure" I got a doc who said my symptoms didn't line up with Bipolar II, but rather to depression and anxiety. For some reason, the word "Bipolar" is scary, but depression and anxiety are not. I'm the same person, but with the right diagnosis. Having seen people flinch and recoil when I had the Bipolar diagnosis and how they did neither once I was given the correct diagnosis of depression, extreme anxiety, and ASD really laid that stigma bare. Long story longer - maybe they didn't tell you because you didn't show signs of that version of the illness. I'm happy to hear you're rid of the hallucinations. That must be a relief.

[@maryford3243]

​@GustavoCardoso95 Most people with any sort of mental illness are more of a danger to themselves than to anyone else. People with schizophrenia are not generally violent. There is more than a 60% chance that a person with mental illness will be abused

[@Mother.Mulberry]

Dude, one of the sweetest people I know had schizophrenia. And it sounds like your mental health is your #1 priority. Best of luck on your journey ❤

[@Christine005]

The parents probably used the old "adage" of "I punish you because I love you." That alone could condition children to accept pain as a form of love.

[@jarhead21100]

Parents who punish their kids do love them. These parents didn't punish, they abused.

[@Charles_Anthony]

If a child is never punished they'll keep doing bad things until it becomes worse... stealing candy comes to mind... it will evolve past shoplifting until the individual is behind bars...

[@MissApprehension]

That is how I was raised and exactly how I learned to perceive love.

[@megazw7740]

​@@Charles_Anthonyviolence isn't punishment, it's abuse. if you have to resort to violence to teach a child proper behaviour, you already failed miserably as a parent. If you cannot hit your wife with a leather slipper, you can't hit your kids with one. incredible I have to explain this.

[@kayleighfuria819]

Omg Simon's cute little water sippy cup thingy!!!!

[@LalaDepala_00]

When you have to take your kids utensils to work 😂

[@mpeach4133]

He’s so babygirl

[@z31drifterlf]

It's gamersups they're a sponsor

[@Abby_Liu]

please do not feed gamersups to children. 😂

[@ryanf1425]

It’s a sponsor and it makes his capitalist heart beat

[@gyllkrans]

I knew what "At her Majesty's pleasure" meant, and I'm pretty sure the only reason I knew that is because Simon has said that in some other video. I guess we'll call it a classic Whistler. 😄

[@pirate_duck4985]

"I'm not mad, just disappointed" Preeeeeeeetty sure that's not gunna work in this scenario 😄

[@audreymuzingo933]

Simon don't apologize for recommending bingeworthy series like this 'From' you mentioned. It sounds like a banger right up my alley, and I think I speak for a lot of people when I say a good binge recommendation is a real GIFT.

[@czb117]

Small note for the opening, MythBusters demonstrated that silver makes very effective bullets due to being dense and malleable, similar to lead. It'd be unnecessarily expensive, but a decent defensive option against the real monsters featured on this channel.

[@jrad9582]

There's a line of silver tipped hunting bullets. Basically the tip of a traditional lead bullet can deform and alter the ballistics of it in flight, but since silver is harder it has less of a chance of deforming in the box or while being handled.

[@dougkrultz2149]

​@jrad9582 winchester rifle silvertip have no silver in them. they are just nickel plated, same as the case. there are some lower pressure pistol rounds that they aluminum coated the projectile for the silver color instead. they do have a plastic tip insert for controlled expansion.

[@jrad9582]

@@dougkrultz2149 could have sworn I listened to a Ron Spomer podcast where he said some actually have silver tips. Could be a case of him not knowing everything, but the more likely case is that since I often use that podcast to fall asleep to I am misremembering.

[@CreepyChris_66]

Simon getting mad about subscriptions is just so relatable

[@pjsw]

Happy holidays everyone

[@readycheddar]

Speaking of screwed up kids, a friend of my mom had a son about my age when I was a kid. We’d play together when they came over and I thought he was a bit weird but still tried to be friends. Then once we went to a barbecue and we found a dead bird and he tried cutting its head off with a piece of bark he found while laughing hysterically. I stopped trying to be friends with him after that. I’m afraid to know what happened to him now that it’s 30 years later.

[@mat1988ize]

Was his name Chris? I had a friend named Chris when I was a kid. He had a bird head on his shelf. Chris said it was his party favor. He would skewer lizards on sticks and place them in the ground or in the gaps of his fence to "attract cats". I don't know if he ever hurt a cat. I stopped hanging out with him when his mom told me he microwaved his hamster.

[@readycheddar]

@@mat1988ize I don't think so, but it was a long time ago. It wasn't just the bird thing. He'd also scream at his mom when he didn't want to listen to her. Just bad news all around. I have no idea what happened to either of them.

[@katrinarose72]

Was this in Washington State. 😂 He's likely in prison for SA by now

[@readycheddar]

@@katrinarose72 Nope.

[@destined2bebossy]

He's either a serial killer or CEO 😂

[@maquekenzie]

A great script Emma!!! Was thrilled from start to finish.

[@williek08472]

"In the real world, monsters don't have horns and they aren't covered in scales." Someone hasn't heard of scalies then

[@littlegiantj8761]

The craftiness of kobolds is underestimated. You won't think they're cute when they're using a minature catapult to fire centipedes at you

[@Fabio-Jose-DragonKing]

Love your scripts emma❤❤❤

[@Lili-ib2rh]

I don't think Simon realizes that he's just being a good parent and a good person.

[@Lumpyfish]

31:34 had a man tell me if I didn’t want it to keep going I should stop crying I don’t wanna get into details but that experience cemented to me that some people are completely irredeemable

[@mariahmoon8775]

The fact that this script brought up Pelant from Bones is terrifying, but it absolutely nailed the point home for me. Pelant is easily the most horrifying villain on that show for me - and that's saying something with the Grave Digger in the running. I actually physically can't watch some of the later Pelant episodes because of certain character choices that impact how Pelant decides to go after them. It's awful. Great script.

[@amandabrown4810]

I guess I'm gonna have to finally watch Bones. . .

[@jorgelotr3752]

@@amandabrown4810 Don't get too attached to Nigel-Murray.

[@evapadilla8342]

Enjoying that show also requires switching off the part of the brain that registers racism lol. But otherwise its a fun ride!

[@lynnkay417]

I'm only 15 seconds in, and I'm loving the fact that Simon is using a Sippy Cup. ❤😊 That's just too adorable. Simon is a Legend!

[@jackvos8047]

The cup is from one of Simons sponsors, Gamer Supps.

[@z31drifterlf]

It's a sponsor, gamersups. He's put away the big tittie anime girl one.

[@shannona2517]

Protein and supplement bottles…Aka adult sippy cups 😂😂

[@Lngbrdninjamasta]

Ah the waifu series

[@ndcmt1609]

That’s not a sippy cup

[@chesthoIe]

According to journalist Steven Wright, ‘I went to a restaurant that serves ‘breakfast at any time’. So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.’

[@amnesiaenjoyer]

always nice to hear about simon being a decent dad

[@TerraUmbraVampWriter]

I just watched an episode about her on another show! So interested in getting more of the facts!

[@lemonlily4022]

Just turned off re-watching Sherlock to watch this while I play the Sims 😂 I feel so seen

[@Marauder99991]

Just leaving a comment for the algorithm gods, great video as always.

[@Jokerzhat]

Cool to hear simon is watching FROM, I just recently started it too, heard about it from my brother, seems to getting more popular lately

[@JayRocArt]

Prepare to be equally pissed off, confused, and intrigued at the same time for 3 seasons lol. It's worth the watch for sure though!

[@davidakadavid8905]

I’m pretty sure he gets paid to say that stuff

[@megling16]

Insanely good show. S3 just finished and I just have more questions. As long as it pays off, unlike Lost, I'll be happy.

[@bradleymoore2797]

Silver bullet gun stops monsters IRL just as efficient as a non-silver bullet gun. The same goes for a cross in the heart. Kills the monster every time. 0:45 😎

[@Peeoto]

ANDDDDDDD.. found a new Whistleverse channep

[@kazzagreen84]

I have an uncle who is in prison with the sentence "at her majesty's pleasure". Hes been there since his mid 20s, he's now in his 70s. We're in Australia too.

[@DarthZevrel66]

Love the Xbox 360 achievement animatic. Brings me back to when I used to play mine.

[@robertpotter2659]

😊❤

[@partickthompson1164]

Why is it that we readily accept a murderers testimony when it comes to their up bringing but not when they deny they killed anyone. That always confused me

[@roxyheem5227]

You have such a calm voice to listen to. I love the historical part that you share with the ghost stories. It’s a joy to see new videos.

[@ComradePhoenix]

That almost marriage reminds me of the story of those two Polish neonazis from like, 10 years ago, who got married and then discovered they were both actually Jewish.

[@lordlundin6495]

Wait ... what? That sounds too good to be true lol. Commenting so I can remember to look this up tomorrow. Very nice.

[@theConquerersMama]

😳

[@namename9998]

@@lordlundin6495 Apparently its true. The Guardian has an article. Search for this exact sentence and its the first result ""At least in Poland it was thought this way as at the time anything that was bad was the fault of the""

[@amemooress6291]

Kinda sucks that that 12 year old girl probably did have accomplices but they got away with it.

[@jackoh991]

She wasn't driving the car on her own was she

[@GrievousReborn]

You have the luxury of saying a person who committed a crime when they were 12 years old shouldn't be killed because you're not the one whose child was murdered

[@namename9998]

Some parents still wouldnt want a child to be executed because they believe that enough hugs will fix them. Is that possible sure but shouldnt more effort be put into trying to prevent this from happening in the future rather than trying to heal someone who might not want to be healed.

[@rickwilliams967]

Some people just need to go away

[@jackoh991]

That's a big assumption. In addition, Not all parents would want that. Also 12..come on. Nah. Life in prison yes.

[@jweigle23]

No teleprompter? Kinda nice seeing an older format

[@NextEevolution]

Brain Blaze fans are gonna love this

[@jweigle23]

​@@NextEevolution I have been watching Brian Blaze since the Business Blaze days and I can say I am content with this script holding. Also, he did the same thing in the earlier days of CC

[@BlackNewty]

Love brain blaze, just don’t like Keven and how he always trolls the comments when he feel light is the shorts.

[@PrairieSundog]

wat

[@BlackNewty]

@@PrairieSundog The main writer for Brain Blaze, likes to troll the comments when he feels light in the pants. That is most of the times.

[@reinamatheny9972]

I believe a child of 12 should be put in prison for LIFE~ if she/he has shown psychopathic tendencies like killing animals, stabbing her peers~ they can never be rehabilitated. NEVER

[@lillylunapotter8079]

I disagree only in that with that age other factors should be addressed first like if they have been told it’s ok and are trusting another person then they should be given a chance. Things like brain tumors and damage should be treated and they should be provided mental help to cope with things they did in those cases since that will alter the way someone thinks and behaves and can be traumatic to come out of. And as some things can change as aging and development happens regular evaluations should be done. Also not jail/prison but a regularly and randomly checked facility with properly trained staff that should be regularly retrained and heavily monitored to insure abuse is not happening. People can dramatically change from childhood so making sure that it’s not something that can be changed with a better living situation should always be the goal and protecting them and others in the cases where there is not a way to get better. they should still be treated well and studied to learn more about how to avoid such things in future. But just doing nothing is very dangerous and not an option.

[@EGSBiographies-om1wb]

Merry Christmas to the stsaff of Casual Criminalist as well to the CCnation.

[@reinamizell9998]

Pelant in Bones is terrifying

[@JessicaO490Z]

32:30 Simon I think the trick is you have to catch the child when they're still child because then therapies might be able to change the course of their mental development. But once they're older your brain is not as flexible in those areas.

[@boubou2413]

Why did this channel never come up on my feed!? 2 minutes in and i already know im gonna love it

[@psychcjs]

As someone who has experience in the field, she most certainly sounds like she has antisocial personality disorder and would have benefited from intervention and therapies with a specialist. But it’s one of those personality disorders that should be caught and diagnosed early so interventions can be started as early as possible. Unfortunately, docs are hesitant to diagnose a child claiming they’re too young but will later tick off all the signs and symptoms they ignored trying to avoid the label. It’s sad. At a certain age, there just is no helping someone with APD if they didn’t get the help early enough. She was a lost cause before that first kill. 😢

[@darkamora5123]

As acomplete aside, a gun full of silver bullets would ABSOLUTELY protect you from real world monsters. Are they practical to obtain? No. Does silver make for a bullet that flies true? No. But a .357 magnum round made of silver fired from close range will rip a giant hole in you just the same. I am reminded of Sir Terry Pratchett's novel Carpe Jugulum (Seize the Jugular...or Go For The Throat) where they discussed how to kill vampires. "You drive a stake through their heart, cut off their head, and stuff their mouths with rose petals and garlic." "Doesn't that work on everyone? I mean, it doesn't seem like vampires would be unique in dying if you did all that.

[@MeetMeAtCafeBatavia]

4:06 Mycroft Holmes is Sherlock's brother. He was featured in the story, "The Greek Interpreter," I think. 🔍🔍🔍

[@i.b.640]

That was the first, yes.

[@martine5923]

Eurus and Enola holms are notj sisters not in og stories but they apear in bbc productions

[@live4applause]

5:03 Not necessarily. This is a great example of sample bias. We can only assess the ones we know about, and we only know about the ones who have been caught (even if we don’t know their actual names). We never know about the ones who actually are smart enough to not get caught - the ones who don’t have discernible MOs and whose behavior patterns are never discovered. We assume most serial killers eventually get caught because the ones who don’t remain invisible and uncounted. But that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

[@samanthaz2131]

Good episode, Simon and co. Miss the long ones tho!!

[@criticaljim7553]

"If she was a good prisoner for 14 years and then released, fine". No, not fine. Someone who did that to someone else should NEVER be released,

[@Bjwuv]

I just discovered that The Casual Criminalist and Decoding the Unknown were my top 2 most listened to channels on KZbin 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂

[@jackoh991]

How do you find this out?

[@Bjwuv]

@jackoh991 it randomly popped up on my KZbin premium music account. It told me the most songs and artists I listened to and also the podcast channels I viewed most on KZbin. It was an end of year recap.

[@deathbeforedishonor9012]

Woooohooooo new cas crim!!!!

[@mthdscrd]

GREAT EPISODE! AWESOME WRITTING EMMA!

[@amemooress6291]

I've read that experiencing/witnessing repeated traumatic events can dampen/extinguish your ability to feel empathy :/

[@wintersking4290]

I feel like explicitly exempting children from more severe punishment only incentivizes gangs to always try to recruit kids, and it also makes criminally inclined kids more likely to act on those inclinations since they know there's less chance of facing repercussions.

[@MrWhatsHappenin]

I remember in school when the principles office had a paddle in it. If a kid per say did something that warranted either the principle would give the kid a good wack or call a parent to have them do the honors. I had friends that got the paddle for doing something mischievous and their parents came in and per principle recommendation and would give their kids a few wacks right there in the office. As students the paddle would be seen at random assemblys or displays and we were taught to fear it. THIS WAS IN THE 2000's.

[@rickwilliams967]

Per se* and that isn't how that's used. What you meant was "If a kid, say, did something..." The per completely changes what you were saying.

[@droomzy]

5:45 Simon's covered so many unintelligent serial killers that I can name several immediately: Robert Pickton, Gary Ridgway, Dennis Rader, John Haigh (Mr. No Body, No Crime), Robert Napper (the UK guy who killed 2 young mothers & one of their daughters), Jerry Brudos (shoe fetish guy), Kenneth Bianchi (the Hillside Strangler who suspiciously asked cops about the Hillside Strangler), Derrick Todd Lee (BR serial killer), Glennon Engleman (dentist hitman), Joachim Kroll & I'm sure there's plenty more who'd qualify as dim witted 😂

[@PanStolasFan]

Or people who have IQ’s in the upper digits but are significantly impulsive. Like Bianchi is said to have an 100+ IQ but brought up his murders tangential in conversations in police cars.

[@ZintaOzola]

Ridgway was known to have a very low IQ but he actually acted more intelligently as a killer than most people who Simon has covered to the point that he was actually a little impressed in a macabre way. This is likely because Ridgway had had it shoved down his throat that he was not too bright since he was a kid so he didn't quite have the ego of some of these other killers which ironically made him much less impulsive and therefore more "successful" than other killers who are much smarter on paper.

[@droomzy]

@@PanStolasFanoh yes Bianchi's IQ may be high but he was a sloppy assailant & he somehow wasn't nearly as covert a POS as his POS elder cousin. The fact that Buono told Bianchi to leave town bc the trail on them was hot & Bianchi complied only to do the exact same shit with the same MO in Seattle (can't remember where for sure though) spoke for itself. And when he was caught he alternated between being a snitch vs. claiming insanity. Not very meticulous for a man possessing a high IQ

[@droomzy]

@ZintaOzolaoh yes my list was naming different kinds of dimwits. He was the type of dimwit who was still above average at crime because he erred on the side of caution & was determined enough to not leave much evidence and fabricate other evidence for false leads. It'd almost be impressive if this wasn't f**king 49 deceased women we were discussing here. Hell even Robert Pickton the remedial Canadian pig farmer had a prolific list because 1) he effectively fed human remains to his pigs and 2) the police were NOT trying to search for Indigenous women 💀

[@MissBlueEyeliner]

I need the CC editors to clip this at 17:25 for future BBlaze episodes.

[@evalevy2909]

This episode is too short! I like when I can dive at least an hour deep into a cas crim

[@Stormy_Fairweather]

those two rapists getting off scot free pisses me off. obviously a 12 year old isnt going to overpower an 18 year old without help. their involvement is a given.

[@TheNikki5449]

Enjoying as per usual this Casual Criminalist video. Thank you 👌🏽👍🏽

[@hallowtako]

Love the Gamer Supps rep! Thanks Simon for another great ep

[@daniellestepien9062]

I have schizoaffective disorder, and an abusive past. These things are not certain predictors of homicidality. Nevertheless I am on a cocktail of medicines and must be under supervision by a county psychiatrist to protect myself from myself. I think it is good this girl is still locked up, but disagree with her doctor's decision to end her medical help. New medications are being developed that could mean a world of difference for her mental state.

[@barbaralamson7450]

You are so entertaining. Even during a horrific tc, you are funny. Thank you.

[@crackity5221]

Locked in for the next 38 mins

[@jeddathorley7067]

17:08 schizoaffective disorder is schizophrenia and bipolar, whereas, schizoid personality disorder actually doesn’t have anything to do with schizophrenia. Not quite sure which one you’re trying to say she has?

[@MichelediMuratore]

I'm from Camberley and I'd only heard rumours about this!

[@SnidgetAsphodel]

Simon gushing about From in the start. Love it. Incredible show!

[@perfectstorm8204]

From is a pretty good show. Im glad it is finally getting noticed

[@Levynite]

Harold Perrineau hell yeah, best Mercutio!

[@meagansefner3215]

When he kicks his feet up on the table? Iconic. THAT is Mercutio.

[@unbowedqueen]

10000000%

[@renata8979]

Harold Perrineau is also Mercutio in Baz Luhrmann"s R+J!)

[@brendamoceri180]

Woot! Just uploaded one minute ago!!!😊

[@KatieMalkie]

Would any of the basement writers be interested in doing a deep dive into the gilgo Beach serial killer? Just recently he was charged with another murder, I think it's up to 7 or 8 women he's been charged with killing.

[@ladygrndr9424]

I think they already did an episode on him, right after the initial crimes came to light.

[@PopeOf420]

I'm Ron Burgundy?...xD oh the irony lol

[@medievalladybird394]

Always a thumbs-up before I start watching 🎉

[@smurrfull]

From is amazing. Also filmed about 15 minutes from my house. I always get a bit excited when i hear it mentioned.

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

32:48 Ha! The guy on the couch makes an appearance.... LOL

[@MMSMLUNWINPP]

Literally was just shopping for Sheath and was psyched that your promo code still worked. Then I see it tagged under a new video not an hour later. Spooky action at a distance there huh? Nerd joke!

[@jackvos8047]

Nope just consistent marketing over time. Currently avoiding my nerd instincts to explain quantum entanglement.

[@nikkinelsonhicksify]

FROM is my favorite show right now. Cannot WAIT until season 4!

[@garyhardman7]

Big fan of From, I found it just before season 2 started. I recommend it to everyone. Going to be a long wait for season 5 in 2026

[@Rainbow_Oracle]

The thing about voodoo is that animal sacrifice and witchcraft ARE how often it gets used. Don't let the apologists tell you otherwise. I live in an area where it's common practice. It's very common to find the ritually slaughtered animals stuffed in a bag or a suitcase somewhere.

[@dawnmcr802]

When kids start acting out, it's their teen years that it has gotten undeniable. If people would pay more attention, they'd notice the behavior was likely noticable by the time they hit double digits.

[@i.b.640]

Ed Kemper had a high IQ. He gave himself up. The Unabomber Was given up by his brother. Mostly we are lucky.

[@mikes2622]

Am I the only one that pictured the Half Baked guy on the couch every time Simon mentioned Steven Wright?

[@toilandtrouble2159]

Back on my casual criminalist binge lollll

[@noth606]

I'm surprised Simon didn't know what "at her Majestys pleasure" means. Most countries in Europe have some variation of it, it's indefinite detention typically at a mental institution, but can be at a specially equipped jail. It sorta makes sense from a societal perspective although it is a bit dubious from a human rights perspective in the sense that it is kinda "jail until we feel like letting you out" more or less. Detainees get assessed continually or regularly and usually take part in various forms of therapy as well as are medicated in a controlled fashion, by IV if necessary. Where I am, western Europe, the similar-ish thing is called TBS as I understand it, and most patients are semi outpatients, they have some form of job of activity to which they travel every day and then come back in the evening to an institution - OR they get their own apartment but their coming and going is monitored in various ways. Not totally sure how it all works in practice but I've read about it and spoken to a nurse who worked at a clinic for that sort of thing. Anyway the point is they get evaluated every so many years or on request/need by a group of psych people and legal people to assess if their privileges and freedoms should be expanded or restricted. My understanding is that they can be locked up 24/7 to living freely on their own in an apartment just with weekly calls or appointments with a therapist - and everything in between. I'm not sure they normally ever get "free" in the sense of having the reporting and therapy obligation removed. From my understanding the people who get this are (potentially) very violent offenders who are judged to lack the capacity to fully function within society as free independent citizens, typically guilty of gruesome murders and/or sexual offences with some mental issue involved. Without going into examples, Dr Lecter would fit right in with them.

[@jesourit]

Yes yes yes, FROM is on my top 10 must watch shows. It’s really good. I also rewatched Lost after season 3 of FROM and omg, it was better the second time around. Glad you like it Simon, great taste 😉

[@ElPirato]

It's a good thing the law got to Carr when they did. She could have the next Andrei Chikatilo

[@theemissary1313]

Damn, this is why I love this channel and Simon narrating it - the side tangents voicing the reality of it. Yeah, I'm all for fairness and such, but with children who murder and then are deemed 'safe' how do they go on to lead normal lives after the things they've done? A bad example is jon venables. Look him up. He's not reformed, but his accomplice apparently has.

[@DragonflyB-tn7pq]

My great aunt died when she was 67. She was single most of her life but legally married bc when her hubby left, neither thought to file for divorce. They dated about 6months, got engaged for about 6months, about 6 months into the marriage her hubby beat her. She waited for him to fall asleep, brought water to almost full boil, then threw it on him. She then told him if he ever put hands on her again that it would be oil at full boil. He packed his things that night, left, and they never spoke again. She was 23. I know someone that killed someone when he was 15. However, he got help. That she killed someone at 12 and wasn't prosecuted til 17 makes a difference. Maybe had she received help when 12, she would've had a chance. This was posted 7days ago. Is this a re-post? I feel like I remember Simon telling this story already ESPECIALLY when he got to the Dismembered Appendices

[@abby5929]

So the Sherlock creators decided to take the "Third Brother" theory and switch it around. The fan theory goes that there's a third brother named Sherrinford. Back in Victorian times if you were a noble family the eldest would be the estate's heir, the middle would usually go into either government, law or something like that and the youngest was often left to their own devices. So the theory goes that the Holmes family has an eldest brother named Sherrinford. In the series they named the black site facility Sherrinford and switched him out for a sister. It was.... it was a thing...

[@samsoncooper1]

This is the first video that I have watched where KZbin has placed a popup telling me to stop using an adblocker in a long time. Damn

[@samsoncooper1]

Also for anyone looking for a fix: Check full settings, uncheck quick fixes so it doesn't have a tick and update settings. Works perfectly again! Must be something in there KZbin is targetting.

[@dylanpailing4314]

Correct Simon, not all killers are psychos, but this one is

[@alexhaladay4345]

This makes me wonder, if one of my kids came to me saying they needed help with someone they killed, what would I do? I have to imagine it would be dependant on the situation. If they came up describing a Ted Bundy situation, yeah, I'd turn them in. If my daughter said she killed someone trying to rape her, I'd probably be like, "You grab a tarp, I'll get my jeep wrangler"

[@BexlarsIRL]

17:04 schizoaffective is actually a mix of schizophrenia and any personality disorder. Given that her diagnosis included emotionally unstable personality disorder, this would mean she had schizophrenia and borderline personality disorder, not bipolar

[@RexytheRexy]

Incorrect. Completely incorrect. Schizoaffective Disorder is a combination of a mood disorder and diagnostic criteria A of Schizophrenia (psychotic episodes). Source: the DSM-V and the fact that I've had it for 27 years, and have thus learned a great deal about it. My official diagnosis is Bipolar Schizoaffective Disorder. I don't have a personality disorder. Please don't spread misinformation like this about us. We have a hard enough time with the stigma as it is.