BEST to WORST : NICHE core engineering (Weapon,engine focused,fast boot,stripped down)

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TheYamiks

TheYamiks

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@maxfaded
@maxfaded 4 жыл бұрын
Engine focused useful for cramming a smaller distro in for explorers who wanna boost once a week.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go 4 жыл бұрын
Bless you Sir, you beat me to it. This, exactly this. I've engineered distributors so much smaller than the ship they're going into with Engine Focus just so I could get my exploration Anaconda to boost when it shouldn't even be remotely possible.
@musifter9126
@musifter9126 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, boosting is useful for explorers... who wants to wait for their undersized thrusters to warm up so they can jump, or wait longer while they fight their way out of a deep gravity well, or not have the option of boosting to try and stop an overly fast descent before you slam into a planet. Its not technically needed, but you really miss the ability to go from zero to full speed in a couple seconds when you don't have it.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go 4 жыл бұрын
@@musifter9126 Agreed. Although of late I've started using my Phantom more than my Anaconda for deep space exploring, and I put bigger engines in it. It costs me a couple of light years but having powerful engines on an otherwise light-as-a-feather Phantom makes flying it around just a huge pleasure. And even with good speed I like to boost! (distributor is still tiny).
@olliewray1197
@olliewray1197 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my krait phantom can boost on a 1D distributer
@duncangray2215
@duncangray2215 4 жыл бұрын
The faster boot sequence for the fsd is actually a lot less useful than you think, cause it does not make your fsd charge faster, just the time it takes to boot if it goes offline
@Radovanslav
@Radovanslav 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's a scam
@sensan1537
@sensan1537 4 жыл бұрын
@@Radovanslav i specifically have an eagle that uses this upgrade actually, its a shieldless "stealth" fighter build that doesnt show up on sensors until almost on top of people, in using a tightly juggled power system i have it set to turn off the fsd as soon as weapons are out to further drop the energy consumption and in turn the heat generation, this upgrade means i'm not playing dodge the unlocked fire from enemies game for too long while it boots itself back on
@Radovanslav
@Radovanslav 4 жыл бұрын
@@sensan1537 sounds very niche but I'm glad that it's actually useful for you
@easy2bcheesy149
@easy2bcheesy149 4 жыл бұрын
Fast boot could be useful if you are running over power capacity
@Recycled
@Recycled 4 жыл бұрын
It gives a teeny tiny bit more distance with zero additional mass. Never used it for the "intended" purpose.
@Numenor3791
@Numenor3791 4 жыл бұрын
The Armored Power Plant mod has actually gained a lot of traction with Explorers over the past year. Most of the time Explorers run fairly tight power budgets and the Armored mod gives an increase in power generation, while ALSO increasing heat efficiency, for a minor mass increase. Toss on the Stripped Down experimental (or Thermal depending on build requirements) and a lot of the time it is superior to Overcharging.
@supremecommander2398
@supremecommander2398 4 жыл бұрын
as others said - Fast FSD boot is not charge up time, its boot time if you shut it down. at grade 5 it boots in a second, and still gives a bit extra jumprange also, armored powerplant gives you also better heat efficiency, higher power output and the higher hitpoints - so you can combine that with the fast boot FSD for a combat ship that doesn't rely on 100% shield uptime (due to limited number of utility slots)
@WH40KHero
@WH40KHero 4 жыл бұрын
My rules for the power plant: What you want: Armored and Thermal Spread If you need more power: Armored and Monstered If you really need the power: Overcharged and Thermal Spread If there is no way to avoid having to use ALL the power: Overcharged and Monstered Really depends how many Megawatt you need on your build.
@mikesleftarm84
@mikesleftarm84 4 жыл бұрын
Faster FSD boot sequence doesn't do what you think it does. It is still pretty niche, though, since it's mainly used by people building fast combat ships which don't have enough power plant for all their modules with hardpoints deployed. They put their FSD in power group 3 or 4 so it turns off when they deploy all their rails and PAs and then faster boot sequence makes it come back on line faster when they need to run away.
@Modighen
@Modighen 4 жыл бұрын
I've used it on precisely one build: My Eagle MkII. I've been flying that one in wing with one or two others in Haz Res and CZs. It's a lot of fun, but I can't say that I have plans to do that with any medium vessel.
@ICKY427
@ICKY427 4 жыл бұрын
i learned that the hard way lol. it also makes me wonder WHY "faster fsd charge" isnt even an option!
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 4 жыл бұрын
@@ICKY427 Probably because it would make it even easier for a larger ship to escape - as it is with masslock if a little ship is winning a fight the big ship can just bail. If they could bail even quicker a big ship would become pretty much impossible to even hurt significantly.
@BalaTheRealOne
@BalaTheRealOne 4 жыл бұрын
I had a lazy patrol build conda with turrets and long range sensors. It's so relaxing pick up juicy wanted condas from 11 km in a has res :)
@waynestuart2755
@waynestuart2755 4 жыл бұрын
Engine focused distributor makes sense on my explorer Phantom as shields and weapons are of lesser use. And weapon focused distributor on my surface mining Cutter to keep those multiple mining lasers fed long enough to empty an asteroid without max pips.
@roqeyt3566
@roqeyt3566 4 жыл бұрын
Weapon focussed is a bit of a mixed bag If G5 weapon focussed is 100% (assuming 8A), then G5 charge focussed has 60% capacity, but slightly more recharge (10.8mj/s vs 10.9mj/s) Sooo... Yes, if you overload your distributor with more lasers than it should have, it's useful, sorta
@ICKY427
@ICKY427 4 жыл бұрын
my dw2 conda has a 1d distributor with, you guessed it, stripped down 🤣
@nweasels
@nweasels 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the education Yamiks, wasn't aware that after having the power plant cored that further shots to it can just explode the ship. Might need to do some rail gun testing against some big ships to check that out.
@jamesdinius7769
@jamesdinius7769 4 жыл бұрын
OK, I put Armored power plant. on a PvE ship, but NOT for the integrity. I went with it to get more power while allowing me to use SCBs without overheating. Oh, and I only went G1 (just enough to power my ship). Might go G2 as my ship can still overheat if I fire my burst lasers too much while using an SCB. Also, seems pretty useful for hull tanks (which yes, are inferior to shield tanks, but people still fly that way). Also, I fly an FDL, so it the shields go down it might buy me some time to finish the fight or run. The Armored power plant is almost strictly beneficial with better power, thermal efficiency, and integrity. (like efficient on energy weapons), with the only downside being mass.
@ChaosXOtaku
@ChaosXOtaku 3 жыл бұрын
Power distributor engine focus is also good for high jump range as it allows you put smaller grade thrusters
@joethesheep4675
@joethesheep4675 3 жыл бұрын
Cluster Capacitor is niche? Now i am interested in what you see as the go-to for PD. edit: you pick super conduits. Thought as much. Thats the second choice. Not bad at all but cluster Caps has it beat, at least in most scenarios and here is why: First of all Cluster Caps give +8% cap and only -2% recharge while super conduits give +4/-4, so the ratio is a lot better on cluster caps. And then i get that recharge is more important than sheer capacity but when you already have grade 5 charge enhanced super Condoits gain is so minimal that it takes a very long time to recharge what you would have if you had cluster caps. For example: on a 7A PD grade 5 charge enhanced/cluster cap you get a whooping 6,96MW of additional weaponcap (compared to with super con) but only 0,531 MW/second recharge from super conduits (compared to with cluster cap). That means you would have to run 4 pips to weapons for over 13 (!) seconds to make up for the lost capacity. Now that is quite a chunk if you ask me. I doubt that, in regular play (whatever that means) super conduits outperform cluster cap (and also its nice to have 6 positive effects and no negative ones on a module ;-) Me, personally i only run super conduit on one build and thats my afk-farming Type 10. Because in this build i sometimes get attacked by a wing of 4 or maybe a wing of 2 starts the fight while another wing of 3 scans me and then joins the fight etc. and in these chases (the dangerous chases; i mean i dont need to engineer for when a single harmless sidewinder attacks me) the fight is going to take much longer than said 13 seconds (but then i run 4 pips to shields and only 2 to weapons; whatever in such long fights without the ability to swap pips super con will eventually outperform cluster cap at some point (with good enemy-spawns you can be shooting for a minute straight sometimes).
@ivancsontos7011
@ivancsontos7011 3 жыл бұрын
i use huge double beams with thermal vent on my corvette with weapons power distributor, deathstar galore!
@zeadlots
@zeadlots 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the link to the FSD range build video in the description @theyamiks
@zeadlots
@zeadlots 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Driftingsiax
@Driftingsiax Жыл бұрын
I think weapon focus distributors would be good to run more mining lasers for a purpose built laser mining ship.
@digiscream
@digiscream 4 жыл бұрын
For some combat ships, high resistance is a must - the Vulture, for example, which has a pretty weak hull and shield, and even if you engineer the fuck out of it you're still going to be up-close-and-personal, so if you _do_ get hit then you're likely to be hit with the full force of whatever weapon they're splooging at you. Particularly since the top speed for a combat-spec Vulture isn't that great either, so you're not going to get out of masslock if you need to BSR and thus need to be able to survive in that range while your FSD is spooling up.
@LetsTalk-kl5vg
@LetsTalk-kl5vg 4 жыл бұрын
Had to pause when it came to the bulk head part of this video... was to focused on the fact it said sidewinder std...... I had a good laugh with that
@pukalo
@pukalo 4 жыл бұрын
I use a system focused power distributor in my jump-Conda
@BillySunday72
@BillySunday72 4 жыл бұрын
Weapons focused distributor is pro for shieldless anti Thargoid builds
@madisondines7441
@madisondines7441 4 жыл бұрын
Love the shade
@Nolsen
@Nolsen 4 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand how you get engineering on your ship. Can someone help me?
@XShaneX19
@XShaneX19 4 жыл бұрын
Eeh won't argue, he doesn't like that
@wheelmangames5366
@wheelmangames5366 4 жыл бұрын
@felixthescholarlytitan4437
@felixthescholarlytitan4437 4 жыл бұрын
So I have a Python used for mining, LTD specifically, what would be the best engineering options for it? Or what about my Asp Explore which, as the name would imply, is set up for exploration. What would be the engineering choices I’d want to use to get the most exploration data in the least amount of time and keep good jump range?
@DickEnchilada
@DickEnchilada 4 жыл бұрын
Either one you'd probably want the standard C rated hull with the boosts to your HP since the upgrade costs no weight and makes you beefier
@labsgamerslv2612
@labsgamerslv2612 4 жыл бұрын
Pirmais!
@misticrost
@misticrost 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows what are the multis used at 2:33?
@TheYamiks
@TheYamiks 4 жыл бұрын
AX multicannons
@misticrost
@misticrost 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheYamiks damn what a waste of good design
@ramel684
@ramel684 4 жыл бұрын
"I'll sell you to brexit supporters" Ouch man, no need for that kind of language
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go 4 жыл бұрын
Why would threatening to sell it to people who don't want to get bent over a sink by un-elected, unaccountable douches in Brussels be a bad thing?
@ramel684
@ramel684 4 жыл бұрын
@@Z1gguratVert1go Why would morons, sorry "people who don't want to get bent over a sink by un-elected, unaccountable douches in Brussels" want to strand themselves on an isalnd with an even less democratic or accountable government of douches in London?
@Th3BlackLotus
@Th3BlackLotus 4 жыл бұрын
@@ramel684 Because being part of the EU means your borders are basically open to anyone else in the EU. It's a xenophobia issue. They want to keep migrants out.
@Z1gguratVert1go
@Z1gguratVert1go 4 жыл бұрын
@@ramel684 An island that used to run the world! They'll be fine.
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