New Law Forces Schools To Out Gay Students

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@TheBashful0ne
@TheBashful0ne 8 жыл бұрын
If this law gets passed it's going to ruin a lot of kid's lives. People don't tell their parents for a reason
@elminaholcomb2348
@elminaholcomb2348 7 жыл бұрын
itsTalon exactly
@useroffline9999
@useroffline9999 5 жыл бұрын
itsTalon Exactly
@hasturxix
@hasturxix 8 жыл бұрын
America. The country where we take *2 steps* forward and *8 steps* back.
@smf5576
@smf5576 8 жыл бұрын
The older generations who have this mindset are dying out. We may not live to see it, but the day will come when the steps forward are greater than the steps back.
@greenbay470
@greenbay470 8 жыл бұрын
Astarisk XR America... the country that fought the evil that now contaminates them.
@TheGreatMoonFrog
@TheGreatMoonFrog 8 жыл бұрын
America: A fat Michael Jackson moonwalking back to the dark ages.
@smf5576
@smf5576 8 жыл бұрын
IV Ltd The DNC is at fault there. They choose the wrong nominee.
@Tinfur104
@Tinfur104 8 жыл бұрын
walking backwards into a corn field
@streglof
@streglof 8 жыл бұрын
except it's NOT a basic right to know the sexuality/gender expression of your child without your child's permission. Definitely not when you're a homophobic bigot.
@streglof
@streglof 8 жыл бұрын
***** your compassion is overwhelming
@bugsz1
@bugsz1 8 жыл бұрын
A parents rights does not override the individuals rights.
@bugsz1
@bugsz1 8 жыл бұрын
How so? If your child did something illegal would you would go to jail? Parents have near zero responsibility. Also, you misunderstand what rights are. Rights are actions that are right. ex. People have a right to privacy because it is right to have privacy, not because you do or do not say so. 18 is an arbitrary number.
@222sundae
@222sundae 7 жыл бұрын
bugsz1 I agree
@richardleonardon2192
@richardleonardon2192 6 жыл бұрын
These people are over the age of 18, so parents do not need to know this.
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist 6 жыл бұрын
bugsz1 Tell that to China haha, A Right is a Fictional thing given to us by the government. As soon as a war Breaks out they’ll have no problem letting millions of Americans die by forcing them into the military to fight for their greedy causes. I know it’s different than the video above, but the point is we don’t have any rights, we just have the illusion of freedom.
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist
@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist 6 жыл бұрын
And who decides if something is Right? People argue over this all the time, abortion, some think it’s Right, others don’t. Right and Wrong are Subjective.
@gusterhero7100
@gusterhero7100 8 жыл бұрын
This pisses me off. The only reason I didn't kill myself during high school is because I knew there was at least ONE space where I could be myself. My parents made it pretty clear that being gay wouldn't be ok, so I came out in school and to friends and school turned out to be my safe haven where I could just be myself. Teachers are there to teach. They shouldn't have the responsibility of having to out a student. Plus, if the parents were accepting of their child, they would've come out already.
@realUlfricStormcloak
@realUlfricStormcloak 8 жыл бұрын
Guster hero LOL, safe spaces are GONE, they have been LIFTED! No more of this "its 2016, you cant say this" Because itll be 2017 and we will be able to again!
@aryanghomi1804
@aryanghomi1804 8 жыл бұрын
high school was your safe haven? school was the worse place to come out. many of my gay friends were bullied. its tough, but maybe youre not gay. i know many people who realized they are not gay.
@willy_lime7465
@willy_lime7465 8 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Teachers should not have the burden of confidentiality when it is illegal to have such boundaries! Here here!
@lipstickbutch
@lipstickbutch 8 жыл бұрын
Guster hero :-) slam dunk!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 8 жыл бұрын
+James Milton (Jay) Safe spaces are different to PC.
@ilovesparky13
@ilovesparky13 8 жыл бұрын
If your child isn't comfortable talking to you about these types of things, that says a lot about what kind of parent you are or at least what kind of parent your child perceives you to be.
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 8 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that still falls under "uncomfortable". As in, EXTREMELY uncomfortable. That's why most kids wait until they're out of their parent's houses to come out now, and I think it's horrible that any parent would treat their child as an object rather than as their own person.
@Finians_Mancave
@Finians_Mancave 8 жыл бұрын
+notyal ... Sounds to me like he or she understands the ramifications exactly. What's your argument against this person?
@bassault
@bassault 8 жыл бұрын
aobcldeefcghcake Btw it's not a law it's a Bill.
@dunhilda9541
@dunhilda9541 8 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile all girls write diaries, even Anne Frank.
@proudtobefruit9774
@proudtobefruit9774 8 жыл бұрын
Well said ilovesparky
@Red88Rex
@Red88Rex 8 жыл бұрын
This is very upsetting. I am gay myself, although my parents have been as accepting and normal about it as I could ever hope. BUT I know it's downright dangerous for many kids. They could be kicked out on the street, beaten, or even killed. She claims it's for the "right" to their child's life, but there is no such thing. That's the point of teenage years: find out who you are and start building your own identity. I never could get along with my mom when I was a teen, and I turned to a teacher instead. That had its ups and downs but that teacher changed my life. I love my mom and we get along great now (I'm 31) but I remember that awkward period. This is insanity.
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 8 жыл бұрын
Too many parents tend to forget that a child's life is their own, a parent does not own them, they raise them, help them grow. All these bills do is continue to show how pathetic some people are by changing a child from a person to an object.
@LilChuunosuke
@LilChuunosuke 8 жыл бұрын
My mom thought I was an attention whoring lesbian and I had to do everything in my power to convince her I was straight to avoid punishment. I mean, I'm not a lesbian, but I'm not straight either. All she saw is me hugging my best friend and being all silly and playful with her and she started treating me like I was some freak of nature. If my parents knew about my sexuality, that would be *very* bad.
@spill_myguts
@spill_myguts 7 жыл бұрын
tHANK YOU!! so I'm pan. I haven't come out to my parents yet because they are pastors of a christian church and I'm sooo scared of what they will do when they find out I would die if my school did this. My parents would kill me if they knew.
@ohsehunsyehet184
@ohsehunsyehet184 6 жыл бұрын
Red88Rex I’m gay myself and I know your comment is kinda old but it’s the truth, I’m happy my parents were only sad because I didn’t tell them sooner, otherwise they support me in every way 🙃
@amethyst_dreams
@amethyst_dreams 6 жыл бұрын
Red88Rex- Agreed.
@Mequeti
@Mequeti 8 жыл бұрын
If your own flesh and blood doesn't trust you when it comes to discussing these topics, what kind of parent does that make you?
@trinitylivingston1286
@trinitylivingston1286 5 жыл бұрын
A bad parent or the child is just nervous even though the parent is accepting. Kind of depends on the family dynamic. I know my parents probably would've killed me.
@PandaOfHearts772
@PandaOfHearts772 8 жыл бұрын
Growing up in a private Catholic school, if my school had outed me before I was ready... I can promise you I wouldn't be here today. I had already suffered and came close many times, but managed through the hard times. A law like this will do so much damage to lgbt youth. I'm strong now, I'd never change who I am. Despite the consequences. But when you're young, it's an entirely different story. This story breaks my heart :(
@gamesman0118
@gamesman0118 8 жыл бұрын
Know that there are others who support you even if we don't share your experience. As a child of abuse I've been as desperate as that.
@kimberlyhill5216
@kimberlyhill5216 8 жыл бұрын
Panda of Hearts I totally agree with u. no child should be outted like that. as a nation, when these kids start being outted, we all need to let them know we are all there for them. cuz the pain and humiliation is gonna drive them somewhere dark. this makes me want to cry 😢😢 this is so harmful to them....especially if the parents don't accept them and/or forces them to change. this is horrible smh I mean come on WTF
@lokomaikai2182
@lokomaikai2182 6 жыл бұрын
A child's sexuality and/or gender identity is NONE OF THE SCHOOL'S BUSINESS!! I am so f'ing sick of the school systems intrusion into people's private lives!!!!!!! Teach math, English, science, etc. and keep your opinions to yourself!!!
@FayeFury
@FayeFury 6 жыл бұрын
this bill is more like the state forcing the school staff to out them to their parents, if the kid comes to the staff and tells them anything about their sexuality or gender identity... it isn't forcing children to tell staff their sexuality or gender identity, but taking privacy away from the children still...
@Kai-of3gq
@Kai-of3gq 6 жыл бұрын
This bill isn’t the school intruding on the child’s life, it is more of the parents. The school will HAVE to report to parents the sexuality and or gender identity of their child if the school finds out.
@k.m.924
@k.m.924 6 жыл бұрын
Lokomaika'i I agree with this completely, I once had a teacher who would always touch my personal possessions when she obviously wasn’t allowed to. My parents were absolutely outraged, but the worst part was I had her again as a teacher two years later.
@cxspin4483
@cxspin4483 6 жыл бұрын
Idk my parents found out I was trans and now the whole school knows and it kinda helped tbh, everyone calls me a guy now and o get to use the nurse bathroom till they make gender neutral ones
@baybayanamaitons8863
@baybayanamaitons8863 6 жыл бұрын
Lokomaika'i Schools need to do look into personal lives child abuse exists
@Awrhiicddon
@Awrhiicddon 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Mrs. Johnson, I am calling due to a requirement to report your child's sexuality. I have confirmed that your child is in fact a heterosexual. Thank you for listening and have a nice day.
@WannabeWryter
@WannabeWryter 8 жыл бұрын
Aric Whiddon there's an idea
@torinju
@torinju 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Mrs. Johnson, I am calling due to a requirement to report your child's sexuality. I have confirmed that your child is really bad at it. Thank you for listening and have a nice day.
@eater999
@eater999 8 жыл бұрын
They call, saying that, everyday.
@evanw7252
@evanw7252 8 жыл бұрын
it is easy to figure out...do they like the smell of shit or tuna more?? funny how everyone wants to use the same toilets but doesn't want to tell anyone's parents that they are gay... obviously because it's shameful,right?? leftists already eating themselves!!!
@evanw7252
@evanw7252 8 жыл бұрын
We are calling to warn you that your child is a straight white heterosexual male... Shame on you for having a normal child in a time when everyone who is white is guilty of repression!!! I want to chop off my dick and play like I'm now a girl....that's fine....I like the opposite sex and people who look like me, that's wrong...??...tyt..racist,sexist,leftists veiled as "progressive" what a bunch of crap!!!
@markotark
@markotark 8 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine is a single-father raising a teenage daughter. When she walked up to him to come out as lesbian with her girlfriend as support, you know what was his reaction to this? He said the following to the girlfriend: Oh, you must be the reason why my daughter has been so happy lately, it's really nice to meet you. Would you like to stay for dinner? After that he hugged his daughter told her that he loved her and asked her to set the table for the 3 of them. I'm not a parent, but that is the way i'd do things if i was in the same situation...
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 8 жыл бұрын
That's the way any real parent should do things. That's being a parent. That's being family.
@LilChuunosuke
@LilChuunosuke 8 жыл бұрын
Please give your friend's father a high five or a hug or something. That's an awesome reaction.
@48mastadon
@48mastadon 8 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to tell a really horrible story.... whew.........
@prehistoricwatergun0136
@prehistoricwatergun0136 8 жыл бұрын
48mastadon same
@layneparrish6725
@layneparrish6725 8 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely heart warming, Make that man father of the year
@20bitee
@20bitee 8 жыл бұрын
Don't ever let these monstrous people tell you they're for small government.
@Yoopsen213
@Yoopsen213 8 жыл бұрын
preach
@victoriasigala3523
@victoriasigala3523 8 жыл бұрын
Chet Spalsky why tf would they do this to lgbt community in Texas this could screwed kids on so many levels I am lgbt and I live in Texas this is the dumbest law if this get passed
@walexander8378
@walexander8378 8 жыл бұрын
Small government just means state governments can impose themselves if they wish.
@claymenefee6999
@claymenefee6999 8 жыл бұрын
Chet Spalsky small government is best translated into "let me be as much of a bigot as i want to be"
@Playitalready
@Playitalready 8 жыл бұрын
I like how liberals point out the conservative and/or liberterian hypocrites who want small gov on economic related issues but not so much on social issues....all the while liberal hypocrites want smaller gov on social issues yet want more of it to tax/regulate etc. on economic type of issues and enviornment...by the way i am pro enviornment and pro protecting it even with more gov...but i like how hypocrites only see what they wana see and wont see their own faults. also, there will always be certain criteria for what is (or is not) sex or marriage and what is (or is not) discrimination on who can do what (homosexual acts were illegal sex and not marriage before, but now that it is, man/brother and many other relations are illegal sex and not marriage, for example)...disagreeing with the liberal's opinion of those legal definitions isn't really a matter of more or less gov. i like how liberals assume I'm a right winger and try to (apparently) hack my comments so now my notifications are broken simply for voicing logical/factual observations....their intolerate bigotry to those who try to convey dharma (which they probably are clueless as to what dharma is) when confronting their limited opinion means i do not have to read arrogant/ignorant/illogical replies to comments....including to this comment. bye
@ChickenRamen
@ChickenRamen 8 жыл бұрын
Are they forgetting that plenty of parents toss their kids out of the house when they find out their child is gay?
@dunhilda9541
@dunhilda9541 8 жыл бұрын
Better than being toss from a rooftop.
@K9RA
@K9RA 8 жыл бұрын
Dun Hilda Youre a disgusting human being. I'd hate to be you
@HUDD1N
@HUDD1N 8 жыл бұрын
Dun Hilda trust me some bible flipping parents might try that
@DavidHernandez-hx6xt
@DavidHernandez-hx6xt 8 жыл бұрын
Are you forgetting that republicans don't care.
@kaizoisevil
@kaizoisevil 8 жыл бұрын
But...but...they're for family values! They'd never toss their child out!
@NikoTurner4
@NikoTurner4 8 жыл бұрын
my gf just came out last night...she's 20 and they disowned her. I'm from Toronto.. so much for Canadians being nice eh?
@kiaeshghi6999
@kiaeshghi6999 8 жыл бұрын
LOL morality is disowning your kid because of who they are attracted to. How sad and pathetic.
@psychosalad6653
@psychosalad6653 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Martz what the hell are you saying???
@justinelkins7121
@justinelkins7121 6 жыл бұрын
From what I'm getting, he's basically saying that people can state their morals are superior to other people they're against. As it is in reality, majority over minority these days... *Sighs*
@davidthechungus9939
@davidthechungus9939 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not trying to put down your point, but you said the thing.... Eh
@liamii5603
@liamii5603 5 жыл бұрын
Not all families are like that! It depends of what they believe not which country, I'm Canadian 14 years old and I'm a transgender boy. No they did not disown me nor my brother who is bisexual
@mafuyu22
@mafuyu22 8 жыл бұрын
Parents don't have a "right to know". Parents should NOT have any special privileges that allow them to be downright invasive on their children's privacy. There is a fine line between parental rights and human rights that children have that cannot be infringed by caregivers. Children should have a right to privacy, especially in areas such as these considering both how being lgbt is controversial in certain areas of our society and how coming out is a very personal matter. Parents should not have this totalitarian power over their child because parents don't always know what's best for their child. There are many questions that kids are asking today that are relatively new, that many parents might not have asked when they were younger. Kids don't always feel safe asking their parents because there can exist a disconnection between contemporary society and the traditional paths of more conservative families. Children should have the ability to seek out information from different sources and be free to confide in whoever they trust, because parents arent always worthy of their child's trust. Children are people, and should be treated like humans, not pets.
@56sarmgoblin58
@56sarmgoblin58 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like you have daddy issues
@thatonedog819
@thatonedog819 6 жыл бұрын
Children are not a piece of property.
@56sarmgoblin58
@56sarmgoblin58 6 жыл бұрын
bel pet they practically are
@thatonedog819
@thatonedog819 6 жыл бұрын
John Golbonny if you feel that way, you probably shouldn't have kids.
@trinitylivingston1286
@trinitylivingston1286 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, where I went to school at, the guidance counselors would only tell the parents if they thought what was going on with the child was unsafe for them. Like suicidal thoughts, bullying, etc. They wouldn't tell the parents if it were something like lgbt.
8 жыл бұрын
Because they've got nothing better to do in Texas…
@TSARMOTAF
@TSARMOTAF 8 жыл бұрын
Yep. Guess they must have burned all those books by now...
@johnedwards1968
@johnedwards1968 8 жыл бұрын
Stefán Örvar Sigmundsson 'Small government' conservatives at it again!
@TigerTT
@TigerTT 8 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't they be stuffing themselves with BBQ ribs all day everyday? lol
@jzoetheshit
@jzoetheshit 8 жыл бұрын
xd
@biggsydaboss3410
@biggsydaboss3410 8 жыл бұрын
Along with being transgender, can come gender dysphoria along with other issues. That might lead to suicide or self harm. I'd like to see an argument made that a parent doesn't have the right to know their child is suffering from a condition that might lead to them committing suicide. I'd also like people to imagine a parent having to bury a child as a result of the child committing suicide, that might've been prevented.
@vestspet4242
@vestspet4242 7 жыл бұрын
Great. One more thing that overworked and underpaid teachers have to worry about, instead of actually teaching .
@kiraisjustice4244
@kiraisjustice4244 6 жыл бұрын
lol yep
@Skyler_Momoko
@Skyler_Momoko 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is so dumb. People need to come out at their own time!
@kiraisjustice4244
@kiraisjustice4244 6 жыл бұрын
yes thank you
@theblahwhatsup6558
@theblahwhatsup6558 6 жыл бұрын
1 year ago
@theblahwhatsup6558
@theblahwhatsup6558 6 жыл бұрын
shy but LGBT and proud nice profile pic
@trinitylivingston1286
@trinitylivingston1286 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, they need to be able to have time to come out and gather what their gonna say. I'm waiting until I move out or something before I tell them about what sex I like or what gender I think I might be.
@bethanybrown2022
@bethanybrown2022 6 жыл бұрын
I could not imagine being 15 and going to my school guidance counselor, who I thought I could trust and telling her I’m gay. Only to have her say “I will have to call your parents and tell them out”, then be kicked out and possibly attacked by my father who was deep in addiction at that time. Even though I begged for her not to tell them. Oh but she “has to” by law. But 15 year old me didn’t know that. So now 15 year old me would be on the streets. Yeah, this is disgusting.
@hannahbradley2769
@hannahbradley2769 6 жыл бұрын
Bethany Brown It is quite dangerous what they're proposing. Like what you said, you would be kicked out and possibly attacked. Its horrible to think that that may not even be the worst thing that could happen. If that happens, some kids could end up dead. Not safe at all.
@bethanybrown2022
@bethanybrown2022 6 жыл бұрын
Hannah Bradley exactly. I was 15 when I first started to realize I’m gay. I was depressed and suicidal and sometimes went to my guidance counselor to talk. I never told her I was suicidal and self-harming because she said she’d call my parents. 15 year old me would probably not know it’s the law for them to tell your parents if you tell them you’re gay. If that had been a thing back then and I had told my school counselor, I would be dead right now. I would have killed myself. This is just mind-boggling. This is not ok.
@hannahbradley2769
@hannahbradley2769 6 жыл бұрын
Bethany Brown I wonder if this law passed? I hope not
@richardvela7419
@richardvela7419 6 жыл бұрын
This happened to me other than the part with my parents. Reason being is because I liked to the councilor because she warned me that she would tell my parents.
@neslydonuts
@neslydonuts 8 жыл бұрын
Wow I guess Mike Pence is starting to make his presence obvious now, isn't he?
@darkonc2
@darkonc2 7 жыл бұрын
imagine if schools were forced to 'out' _all_ sexual or romantic activity of kids.. it would be social mayhem.
@JReece3000
@JReece3000 8 жыл бұрын
This kinda pressure is why a lot of gay men get married to women, have kids, then are spending their weekends and lunch breaks living their "alternate lifestyle" through Grindr and Jack'd.
@stardustdreams234
@stardustdreams234 6 жыл бұрын
Same with women.
@lemonbirdo1353
@lemonbirdo1353 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought of married guys on dating sites like that..
@ihavenoname516
@ihavenoname516 6 жыл бұрын
Lemon Dragon ♡ I’ve seen it happen a lot. Especially within my family. Me and my cousins would mess around on Grindr and we found like 3 of our uncles (who are married) yea...
@ihavenoname516
@ihavenoname516 6 жыл бұрын
Madalyn Martin Yeah in way, it’s kinda sad tho too
@greenlilac32
@greenlilac32 6 жыл бұрын
Without me knowing I had dated a married man years ago. Obviously when I found out I ended it but it sucks that that kind of culture forces gay people to lead double lives that hurt not just themselves but the families they have built
@dnicole4236
@dnicole4236 8 жыл бұрын
Some parents have literally murdered their children after finding out they were gay. This is horrible.
@hidarlin76
@hidarlin76 8 жыл бұрын
Any parent that condones this is essentially saying "love,, but with conditions", said parents shouldn't be parents.
@dunhilda9541
@dunhilda9541 8 жыл бұрын
Doubt you have the right to say we can or can't be parents.
@14Schofield
@14Schofield 8 жыл бұрын
Unconditional love is the best way to create a functioning member of society.
@14Schofield
@14Schofield 8 жыл бұрын
***** LOL
@222sundae
@222sundae 7 жыл бұрын
Dun Hilda if a parent beats their child then they dont deserve to be parents
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 8 жыл бұрын
Stay classy USA, stay classy....
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 8 жыл бұрын
Ryan Simpson I know, its sarcasm. :P
@Theressomethingwrongwiththem
@Theressomethingwrongwiththem 8 жыл бұрын
+ Siga Muga Caca 😂😂😂 Sure! You might wanna watch his first week in office. The first day he actually has to work, for real, like a job???? He's going to figure out real quick he's not built to be on the clock. Not only is he going to be the first sitting President to divorce, he'll be the first one found in the fetal position, sucking his itsy teeny tiny little thumb 👐👐 rocking back and forth, lightly sobbing, whilst eating Xanax like Tic Tacs. 💊💊💊 I realize you're just a lingering #trumptroll, but the mention of him wanting to do this for 8 years is so not gonna happen. (The mental picture of him falling completely apart because he doesn't know the definition of "Executive Branch" let alone what his job duties are within that Branch, is hilarious. Totally overwhelmed by all those big words people use in his presence. 😨😨😨)
@marmiteman2196
@marmiteman2196 8 жыл бұрын
gatesbrown26 I think you were trying to mean? And it's funny because you're rubbish at it.
@yulikitten
@yulikitten 8 жыл бұрын
Andreas karlsson Can I move in with you?
@andreaskarlsson5251
@andreaskarlsson5251 8 жыл бұрын
gatesbrown26 Where did I claim this was a law? One could wonder who the stupid one is. All I know is that there's only one so many country that constantly spew out bullshit like this and that is the super religious countries... I spot a connection between the two tbh. :3
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 6 жыл бұрын
Some kids will be beaten, disowned and abandoned over this. If everything was right with the family, the parents would be the FIRST to know
@hubertmucha362
@hubertmucha362 8 жыл бұрын
I really don't think America can be considered a 1st world country anymore.
@greenbay470
@greenbay470 8 жыл бұрын
Hubert It's a 5th world country with 0th world businessmen.
@thisjuice657
@thisjuice657 8 жыл бұрын
Nope, even some developing countries have a more educated population.
@kathic6402
@kathic6402 8 жыл бұрын
Hubert In 3rd world countries they kill or stone gays. Is that what you expect?
@RetroAvangardist
@RetroAvangardist 8 жыл бұрын
You think right. www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings-index But it's been that way for years.
@RetroAvangardist
@RetroAvangardist 8 жыл бұрын
Did any of the American cities make it into the global top 10 liveability list? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Liveability_Ranking Take a wild guess.
@Hepler-s2b
@Hepler-s2b 8 жыл бұрын
so what happens when a teacher outs, a student to an abusive parent. and parent beats the hell out of the kid , or worse?
@Maartimer
@Maartimer 8 жыл бұрын
They call it "gay conversion" and let it slide
@dougdiamond5774
@dougdiamond5774 8 жыл бұрын
Susan Hepler That's the first thing I thought about. I don't think they really put a lot of thought into writing that bill.
@grumpyturtle9682
@grumpyturtle9682 8 жыл бұрын
Doug Diamond+ Its Texas, when have they ever put thought into their laws?
@sirenthomas4595
@sirenthomas4595 8 жыл бұрын
Susan Hepler they will say it's the kids fault for being gay...ik I live in the south...these folks make me Ill...
@northway8209
@northway8209 5 жыл бұрын
Zelpha Maude did you just call being gay a disease?
@ollie9808
@ollie9808 7 жыл бұрын
I was outed to my mom before I was ready the morning before the last day of school and she flipped (mostly because I was dating) and she said that part of the reason that I’m too young to date is that I don’t know who I am yet even when I’ve known for a couple years now. My relationship with my mom is fine (we’re super close) and she apologized for how she reacted, but being outed before I was ready affected me a lot and I cannot imagine how scary it is for kids who fear being beaten or disowned, I hope this law never passes. To all of the closeted LGBTQ youth out there just remember to stay strong 🏳️‍🌈
@missytitanyt9380
@missytitanyt9380 6 жыл бұрын
I understand. My grandmother forced me to come out (Not to her but to my mother, she still doesn't know.) Luckily my mother was pretty supportive and only told me it was "a faze." (My mother is pansexual) i still don't know if i should come out to my aunts and grandmother as my family is extremely sexual and I'm asexual...
@trinitylivingston1286
@trinitylivingston1286 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, glad that my high school wasn't like that.
@felixdevilliers1
@felixdevilliers1 8 жыл бұрын
I have known male gays who can't tell their parents because of the uproar this would cause. Some parents disown their sons. Schools should be on the side of humanity and not of die hard conservative parents, Schools should also serve to save children from their parents. - I tried to tell my father but he was so upset that I went back an hour later and said I had realised I was not gay. Eventually there was quite a fuss.Parents like to blame others so my parents persecuted a lesbian friend for 'influencing' me. They threatened to reveal her inclination to school authorities and told me that they would stop my study allowance.if I shared my flat with this lesbian and her companion. I said, 'Go ahead, I'll find a job" and I did the flat sharing. Later they got over it all.
@thuzan117
@thuzan117 8 жыл бұрын
question, how can they keep it a secret from their parents but the school somehow knows?
@loki2240
@loki2240 8 жыл бұрын
thuzan117 - Students holding hands at school? Passing notes? Overheard conversations?
@thuzan117
@thuzan117 8 жыл бұрын
loki2240 for a school to actually keep track of that information seems really strange to me.
@loki2240
@loki2240 8 жыл бұрын
thuzan117 - I'm not sure what you mean. If you're a teacher or anyone else, and you find out that someone is gay, how difficult is it to remember it? What would be odd is a school keeping actual record of of it and/or reporting it to parents.
@felixdevilliers1
@felixdevilliers1 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the podcast doesn't tell us how the school might know before the parents. At my boarding school the school found out first and a boy was immediately - absurdly - expelled so his parents found out the hard way. It is quite normal for young people to go through a bisexual phase - see Freud. There was quite a bit of erotic play among the boys but I was quite a little puritan then and refused to join in. Not so long ago a scandal was unearthed at the same school, A boy after many years - decades - claimed that he had been obliged to do a blow job on a prefect (older boy with authority). I wrote a letter to the Principal saying how dreadful and I was sorry but I had to admit that I would like to have been in that boy's place. The school still keeps up a friendly correspondence with me. I think they hope for financial contributions form 'old boys.'
@angelswithmolotovs9857
@angelswithmolotovs9857 8 жыл бұрын
Things that parents need to know: -academic performance -any crimes or abuse against the child (for instance, if the child revealed that an uncle had been inappropriately touching them to their counsellor, the counsellor would have to notify both the parents and the police) -health problems or life threatening mental illness (i.e. Suicidal ideation). -Pregnancy What they don't have the right to know: -friendship/relationship drama -sexual orientation/gender identity -stresses and anxieties -any rants about the family -personal religious or spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) My parents are conservative (but Canadian conservative which is pretty much democrats lol), christian "family values" people. I'm a non-religious bisexual. If they had told my parents... Yeesh. Bad things would've happened. I did end up coming out on my own terms, and now I'm the laughing stock of the family and I'm dead to my parents. But it's fine...
@oliviajacques741
@oliviajacques741 6 жыл бұрын
You were honestly really brave to come out.. My mom says that its just a phase and my grandparents believe no one will love me if I say who I am.. I'm bisexual, and I've known all my life I liked both, yet the only person who seems to be able to accept me is my dad. And of course my sister, but it took her time.. For my dad, the support and protective feeling was instant for him. I hope your family will learn to accept you, and remember if you need a friend or just someone to talk to, I'm willing to listen. :)
@sugarstars3438
@sugarstars3438 6 жыл бұрын
Pastel Cat Im sorry about your mom and your grandparents,Im glad that your dad and sister are supportive though :)
@useroffline9999
@useroffline9999 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better myself. There’s a line between necessary info and privacy invasion.
@lamarmcneil5655
@lamarmcneil5655 8 жыл бұрын
This is a disatruous idea, do they want thousands of gay teenagers on the streets?
@DethotheDon
@DethotheDon 8 жыл бұрын
Prince Asim yupppppp
@lamarmcneil5655
@lamarmcneil5655 8 жыл бұрын
Dj Getem WTF? I said, "with". I meant "this", that was a weird type...
@lamarmcneil5655
@lamarmcneil5655 8 жыл бұрын
PC BEAST Nvidia Well clearly you're a moron.
@marioozzie
@marioozzie 8 жыл бұрын
Prince Asim It's because Texas Republicans want things back to the way they were 50 years ago, when gay teenagers and adults were frightened to death of coming out and deep, deep inside the closet...
@tek2095
@tek2095 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Pham Yup, anytime any minority group gets "uppity", they just shout "CONSPIRACY!" as a way to undermine them.
@WarrenWebber
@WarrenWebber 8 жыл бұрын
Ugh, such real problems in this world, and homophobes want to push this 😑 😑
@elijahbrown5089
@elijahbrown5089 8 жыл бұрын
Chris Bohannon The wall just got 10 feet higher. Trump2016!
@elijahbrown5089
@elijahbrown5089 8 жыл бұрын
hamza abid u ain't gonna do shit lol.
@elijahbrown5089
@elijahbrown5089 8 жыл бұрын
hamza abid ok then keyboard warrior
@loki2240
@loki2240 8 жыл бұрын
Warren Webber - Seriously. Are public schools supposed to send letters home about who students are dating? Who their friends are? If parents want to know things like that, they're free to try to find out for themselves. But how does the government have a duty to inform them?
@elijahbrown5089
@elijahbrown5089 8 жыл бұрын
hamza abid I am?
@erauprcwa
@erauprcwa 8 жыл бұрын
More smaller government and personal responsibility from the people who proclaim to be the most "moral" and love America and its people the most (Republicans). This is disgusting. Side note, I would love, if this were passed, teachers to call parents and tell them that their kid might be heterosexual... Just do it over and over again. Get involved in the personal matters of the child and the parents, because that's what the government wants...
@jeffc5974
@jeffc5974 6 жыл бұрын
They also should call when they suspect they might be cis.
@danilin7606
@danilin7606 6 жыл бұрын
ERAUPRCWA no. its what christians want
@shydreamguyman4098
@shydreamguyman4098 6 жыл бұрын
ERAUPRCWA, Many Adults are So Ignorant that they probably Think that Heterosexual means Gay . Many Presidential elections ago 1 candidate in a speech called his opponent a "Homo Sapien " Which is the technical term for Human Being but people thought he was Outing the man as Gay .
@shydreamguyman4098
@shydreamguyman4098 6 жыл бұрын
Anon Ymous, I agree except US Republicans are Worse than you think what they want to turn America into is so awful it would make Russia look like Disneyland by comparison.
@jimmieww
@jimmieww 6 жыл бұрын
shydreamguy wantsaboyfriend man I didn't know people could be so wrong, I though humans were intelligent creatures.
@MugenSaint
@MugenSaint 8 жыл бұрын
This is promoting bad parenting, and creates distrust between the teachers and the students.
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 8 жыл бұрын
Is this really surprising? I mean really, it's Texas.
@_osvaldo___5529
@_osvaldo___5529 8 жыл бұрын
Kurama they won't do this in south texas lol
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 8 жыл бұрын
_osvaldo_ __ I didnt know there was a difference between the two.
@_osvaldo___5529
@_osvaldo___5529 8 жыл бұрын
Kurama south texas is where most of the minorities live, usually this kind of stuff applys to north texas since that's where all the religious folks reside. that's what I meant to say. sorry for misleading
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, kind of. Of all the southern states, Texas has been the most progressive. It's not saying too much but compare it to Mississippi for example and it'd not only not be a surprise, but people would be wondering what took them so long.
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 8 жыл бұрын
Rukifellth Texas and Progressive are two words i never though i would see together. I've only heard about them being backwards and extremely conservative.
@ShaldowB
@ShaldowB 8 жыл бұрын
Disgusting law.
@TheAlmightyPain
@TheAlmightyPain 8 жыл бұрын
Not at all.
@Raizhen010
@Raizhen010 8 жыл бұрын
How so? This is literally taking away freedom from homosexual students to come out to who they trust and potentially endangering them emotionally, and in some cases, physically if the parents told are insane religious nuts.
@biggsydaboss3410
@biggsydaboss3410 8 жыл бұрын
+Raizhen010 This law also covers trans people, that will include people with gender dysphoria. A condition that comes with a massively increased chance of suicide ideation. What about the parents that would want to support their children, who love them and do their best by them. Do they not have the right to be informed if their child was suffering? Should parents also not get to know if their child has a condition that carries an increased risk of suicide, like depression or psychosis?
@KazumiKiguma
@KazumiKiguma 8 жыл бұрын
The worse part about it covering trans people is that a lot of them aren't even wanting to actually switch genders deep down, they just identify more with the stereotypes we've labeled as "masculine" and "feminine". So if a dude likes cute things or wants to look pretty or a girl wants to build muscle, suddenly they're a freak when it's society that forced that label, not nature. It has nothing to do with who they want to bang.
@jannmutube
@jannmutube 8 жыл бұрын
Raizhern010, I don't think the law would take away freedom to express sexual identity, it only places sexual identity with a person's birth. Homosexuality is a genetic condition not a choice. Children, parents, and authorities should accept the gender identity a person is born with. I agree with Konni Burton in that a parent should have the right to know if their child is acting contrary to their birth identity. It may be that they are being abused by someone. A child or young adult is not physically or emotionally mature nor do they have the life experience to be given adult rights and responsibilities. To do so would undermine the child's safety and their sense of security. Ultimately, the health and protection of the child should be in the hands of their parents. Also, evidently, transgender operations haven't prevented suicide due to gender dysphoria.so your complaint is a false imperative. I expect that a sex change operation leaves a ghost identity similar to ghost limbs of amputees. The only provisions I would give the state are: 1. require schools to provide separate bathrooms for those born XXY and ask parents to explain to their children (at an appropriate age) that a person should not be shamed for their genetic gender identification. 2. that parents can't change the sexual identity of their child... not even by genetic manipulation.of a fetus. Preventing sexual abnormalities due to hormone or testosterone levels in utero would not be making a change as long as the fetus is not XXY.
@timjames5809
@timjames5809 6 жыл бұрын
I don't live in Texas nor am I a kid but I am gay and I think that bill needs to be vetoed I don't believe in forcing people to come out. Let them come out on their own terms
@branm.4661
@branm.4661 6 жыл бұрын
I plan to be a teacher myself. If this ever comes up in the future. As a bisexual, I would rather lose my job than do this.
@MissAfricanAmerican99
@MissAfricanAmerican99 8 жыл бұрын
If a child wants to come out, fine. Who they want to come out to is their business ALONE, not some lawmaker's.
@shieh.4743
@shieh.4743 8 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no. Texas is just running itself back into the 1850s.
@Papai_Pai
@Papai_Pai 8 жыл бұрын
what the hell is wrong with Texas it's 2016 not the 1930s get with the Times Texas
@andrewalfieri2579
@andrewalfieri2579 8 жыл бұрын
Its 2016! and next year it will be 2017! Its the current year people! Get with the times!
@caleb-ct5vi
@caleb-ct5vi 6 жыл бұрын
Atleast Texas still has guts and a spine. Todays world is a joke and we need to go back to those times.
@bandrgaming3850
@bandrgaming3850 6 жыл бұрын
Ronald Brump So true
@DaNinjaWalrus
@DaNinjaWalrus 8 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about child abuse! I know of kids with abusive parents where the only people they felt safe to tell were their teachers. If the teacher is forced by law to tell the parents, then the abuse could get worse.
@Ma11c0p48
@Ma11c0p48 8 жыл бұрын
My question is why the schools need to know the sexual orientation of the students?
@pigeon1923
@pigeon1923 6 жыл бұрын
konrad casler it not the schools, it's the parents. Imagine having a teacher you trust and you tell them that you're LGBT+. The teacher will have to tell the parents because of the law even if they don't want to. Basically legally outing kids to their parents.
@happytoasty3284
@happytoasty3284 8 жыл бұрын
this is pretty fucked up man
@angrymisanthropistfreak6038
@angrymisanthropistfreak6038 8 жыл бұрын
What if the kid is to shy to talk about it?
@jacobschmidt
@jacobschmidt 8 жыл бұрын
Angry Misanthropist Freak as a gay, closeted, teenager with homophobic parents in Texas I can say that that is not significant enough of a reason for it not to be scary
@KrazeeClark
@KrazeeClark 8 жыл бұрын
This is for Jake S.. I wish you a lot of luck. With a gay parent in North Carolina, this whole mess makes me sick. It seems that it will never end.
@ZeldagigafanMatthew
@ZeldagigafanMatthew 8 жыл бұрын
The fact that you think a parent should know their child's sexuality NOT coming from the child makes you a sick person, the fact that you would propose this as a law makes you a horrifying monster.
@ZeldagigafanMatthew
@ZeldagigafanMatthew 8 жыл бұрын
***** They can laugh all they want, doesn't change the fact that they are monster.
@hannahkirk4182
@hannahkirk4182 8 жыл бұрын
As a member of the gay strait alliance this big will be a big impact on students
@MissAfricanAmerican99
@MissAfricanAmerican99 8 жыл бұрын
Hannah Kirk WASP!!! Sorry, comic need here. ☺☺☺🐝🐝🐝🐝
@memequeen4334
@memequeen4334 6 жыл бұрын
As someone who is Pansexual I am scared to come out to my family, I’m scared that I’m going to end up on the street, kicked out of my home because there is so much negativity in this world that I’m so scared to come out to my family.
@zeldaprincessgirl100
@zeldaprincessgirl100 6 жыл бұрын
My little cousin who I grew up with (he's 22 years old And I'm a 25 year old woman lol) is afraid to tell his parents that he's gay, of course he tells me since we are super close, I'm like "ok cool", cuz I don't care, he's still my little baby cousin, even though he's 6'1" and I'm 5'6", I shall protect him...he got muscles..but I shall protect him anyways xD.
@syngonsmythe38
@syngonsmythe38 8 жыл бұрын
My first and only question is: why would any sane person wan't to live in Texas? Every other question comes after this!
@spoonikle
@spoonikle 8 жыл бұрын
syngon smythe - now you know why property is so cheap in Austin.
@Bladezeromus
@Bladezeromus 8 жыл бұрын
NewLifeInKorea And what is wrong with Alabama?
@OfficialSeth
@OfficialSeth 8 жыл бұрын
So because Texas has some dipshits living there no sane person would want to live there? Low cost of living, great music, food and entertainment, lots of friendly people that treat you like family and the state itself is beautiful.
@gregoriobell2736
@gregoriobell2736 8 жыл бұрын
Seth the Wicked Actually New Mexico is the windy state because Texas blows and Arizona sucks.
@ragnaroksora8129
@ragnaroksora8129 8 жыл бұрын
***** it wants a nuc, US has thousands, why can't they have one.
@S-R-H
@S-R-H 8 жыл бұрын
just like the BS abortion restrictions in Texas, it is about punishing people that they think are sinners! It's never about helping the vulnerable people it's about letting them know they are wrong and them simply being them is wrong and I'm so sick of this crap
@alexc773
@alexc773 8 жыл бұрын
It's simple. The proponents of the bill are not trying to help the kids at all. They want to impose their morality upon others.
@ZarlanTheGreen
@ZarlanTheGreen 8 жыл бұрын
If a child won't tell their parents, their sexuality and/or gender, then they are clearly not people who _should_ be told it. The fault is with the school, or the state. It's the parents who are at fault.
@ajwriter5699
@ajwriter5699 8 жыл бұрын
This would do nothing but spike incidences of suicide. And how would teachers know?
@caleb-ct5vi
@caleb-ct5vi 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Writer perhaps that needs to happen. I am sick of paying taxes outta my blood sweat and tears just to have gays use it for their medical treatment to treat the cancerous stds they get. Come on now lets be real.
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD
@TheIMMORTALKAHNHD 8 жыл бұрын
ah sit back and let the lawsuits roll on in texas.
@eeneremadu
@eeneremadu 8 жыл бұрын
The Bowser one Lawsuit on what grounds?
@jacksonreid4824
@jacksonreid4824 8 жыл бұрын
Chukwu Oh, just violation of civil liberties, human rights, discrimination, etc.
@hunterjohnson8903
@hunterjohnson8903 8 жыл бұрын
+Chukwu lol that's what I'm saying
@eeneremadu
@eeneremadu 8 жыл бұрын
Terra Titanius Still not specific... "Discrimination"? That's not illegal man. We discriminate all the time. What human right is being impeded on. What civil liberty is being impeded on
@eeneremadu
@eeneremadu 8 жыл бұрын
IV Ltd My guy. Wtf are you talking about. Instead of telling me all this senseless rhetoric give me a specific law that this bill impedes on. it literally says that kids should tell their parents about their sexual orientation. I never once said thay I supported it, and idk where you go around talking about Nigeria, but this bill itself was not cross any laws or rights.
@kathleentate8343
@kathleentate8343 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is not a school thing, it's a family thing. Keep your nose out of people's business
@danwic
@danwic 6 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Tate it's more than that. It's a personal thing. Not for others to reveal except the individuals themselves.
@Twilord_
@Twilord_ 8 жыл бұрын
Teachers there should call every parent, every day, to tell them that their child is "likely heterosexual but Republican governance demands we continuously investigate and inform you".
@frostfirei
@frostfirei 8 жыл бұрын
This is just asking for trouble, it can lead to parents kicking their child out, or even killing them.
@summonerron88
@summonerron88 6 жыл бұрын
Parents should hear from their children that they r gay, NOT FROM A THIERD PERSON. The government HAS NO RIGHT to butt in their noses in stuff that DONT CONCERN THEM.
@TehDeminz
@TehDeminz 8 жыл бұрын
Title of the video is misleading. This is a bill, not a law, and will likely die before it ever becomes law.
@myteath
@myteath 8 жыл бұрын
TehDeminz but its also Texas though.
@ryanwang4293
@ryanwang4293 8 жыл бұрын
The point is we have actual lawmakers proposing this stuff. And you never know if something will pass unless you try. If this lady's anti-gay opinion is shared by other lawmakers, which is very likely, it or a similar bill has a chance to pass.
@LordKamina2
@LordKamina2 8 жыл бұрын
it's like they never saw school house rock
@erikdumas9873
@erikdumas9873 8 жыл бұрын
All laws start out as bills, and what reasons do you have to say that this bill will "likely" die in legislation? This is Texas, after all, and it wouldn't be the first time Texas had passed discriminatory legislation.
@bassault
@bassault 8 жыл бұрын
+kiliyah perry Yeah a powerful and superior state.
@TheBushdoctor68
@TheBushdoctor68 8 жыл бұрын
That's a great proposal. What you need next is a law that makes gay people wear a pink triangle on their coats.
@ILiketoSayYeehaw
@ILiketoSayYeehaw 8 жыл бұрын
Pls don't give them ideas. We already elected Trump w/ talk of a Muslim registry.
@ILiketoSayYeehaw
@ILiketoSayYeehaw 8 жыл бұрын
Pls don't give them ideas. We already elected Trump w/ talk of a Muslim registry.
@DudeWhoSaysDeez
@DudeWhoSaysDeez 8 жыл бұрын
That's scary
@MultiPoseur
@MultiPoseur 8 жыл бұрын
It could be an RFID tag for everyone. Then the thought police can walk around with a Gaydar detector, and check your immigration status too. Utopia.
@lydiaminx666
@lydiaminx666 8 жыл бұрын
That may happen -_-
@DeakE2003
@DeakE2003 6 жыл бұрын
A schools first priority should be to their students. If telling the parents puts them at risk, then the school is liable for what may happen as well.
@GabrielaDimurro
@GabrielaDimurro 8 жыл бұрын
"As a huge gay person" lmfao
@murraymint1775
@murraymint1775 8 жыл бұрын
i'm glad i live in Ireland where being gay is far less controversial then it is in the US
@sinexjohnson8885
@sinexjohnson8885 8 жыл бұрын
So move there already. Don't write home.
@caleb-ct5vi
@caleb-ct5vi 6 жыл бұрын
Poor Ireland is turning their back on the Church, the heart of the country that has kept it strong and powerful. There is a reason people hate christianity and conservatism and that is because it is right. It is the cold hard truth about the world, but people ignore it and be like "oh no they are wrong". Life is not a beautiful thing, it is cold and dark. It is sad that ireland are bringing in the abortion law as well. I never thought people would be so happy about killing innocent babies. Now people are going to think it is ok to have sex outside of marriage and they are gonna go hard and wild filling them selves with stds. We have these rules for a reason given to us by our creator. The catholic church need to start fighting before ireland turns into sweden.
@treyvonervin745
@treyvonervin745 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think these legislators know how common it is for gay kids to be disowned or kicked out at 18 by fundamentalist parents.
@jakescar2404
@jakescar2404 6 жыл бұрын
This is very upsetting. My parents are homophobic. That's why I haven't come out to them as bisexual (luckily my parents don't use KZbin).
@NexisCatzus
@NexisCatzus 6 жыл бұрын
I hope this law never passes... My parents don't know I'm gay, and I don't think they'd beat me or something, but my mom's mood tends to fluctuate. She could find out and be happy for me, and then the next moment she could kick me out of the house. And I don't really know about my dad, I don't talk to him often. But anyway, my point is there's a reason we have to come out in our own time. It's the fear that everything could go wrong, and everything could change for the worst. That being said, to all my fellow LGBTQ+ people out there, never stop being yourself! Come out at your own time, and don't let the words of others bring you down. Don't let their ignorance control you.
@malia6957
@malia6957 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting, this puts so many kids in danger
@perfidiousprophet
@perfidiousprophet 6 жыл бұрын
I was semi-outed before I was ready a few months ago, my parents haven't really confronted me about it but sometimes it puts me on edge. Being outed before you're ready is kinda terrifying, schools should not interfere with anyone's personal life unless someone is in danger,
@gabepena4777
@gabepena4777 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a gay youth at my school in Texas and honestly something like this scares me even though I do live in a fairly liberal city I know many kids at my school especially freshmen who are struggling with issues like this and if they where outed to their parents it would be terrible pray the gay away type conversion therapy the fact something like this is even happening is deplorable how can someone even justify something like this...
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 8 жыл бұрын
If this law passes, every student should make an appointment with their school officials and claim that they are Homosexual. Then the next day tell them that, whoops, guess they're actually Heterosexual. Then gay again. Then Bisexual, then Pansexual, Straight again, Asexual, etc... It can culminate with everyone claiming to have awoken to their Fursona and coming to school in bunny/cat/etc... ear headbands and Sonic the Hedgehog T-shirts for a month. And when the staff starts protesting that they are legally required to make upwards of twelve thousand phonecalls a week to increasingly agitated parents, the students can actually get some honest discourse going on the grounds that their parents reflexively scream dismissive obscenities whenever they pick up a call from their kids' schools.
@natalierivera9602
@natalierivera9602 8 жыл бұрын
Or parents can show their children they would love them unconditionally and the child would have no problem letting their parents know all aspects of their lives.
@trinitylivingston1286
@trinitylivingston1286 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I'd do if my child comes out. I'd be like I love you anyway.
@animelover3294
@animelover3294 6 жыл бұрын
Its basically saying that us kids have no right to have our sexual and gender identities a secret and that we are not people in this country.
@jenningsnaquin7690
@jenningsnaquin7690 6 жыл бұрын
It should be the kids right to withhold personal information like that from their parents 🙄
@pix9417
@pix9417 6 жыл бұрын
Why do so many people think that parents just automatically have the right to know everything about their child? Parents should have to earn things like this, just like everyone else. If the parent is bad or makes the child afraid to express themselves, clearly that parent doesn't even deserve to be involved. Everyone else is that child's life has to work to gain their trust and to learn his/her/their secrets, and I really don't understand why parents are all that different. Sorry, I don't want this to sound like I'm specifically attacking anyone, this topic is just something that frustrates me and that I feel strongly about.
@wojtektolsdorf1738
@wojtektolsdorf1738 8 жыл бұрын
I agree - Hassan is super gay
@thelast1nsstanding545
@thelast1nsstanding545 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, this is REALLY upsetting because, if you are in the closet in the community, it's for a REASON sometimes it would be dangerous or its not your time yet, but yet this is making me so angry.
@Carffae
@Carffae 6 жыл бұрын
If I came out to my dad, he would kick me out and I'd be homeless. If this law passes kids will be put on the streets. It's dangerous to come out. There are reasons we don't tell our parents.
@minatokirijio9059
@minatokirijio9059 6 жыл бұрын
Carffee Carffee yeah, and something I just thought about. School shootings. You want more dead youth? Get them kicked out their house, ruin their family ties, make them want to kill them selves. And hey, maybe they’ll take out some other youths with them.
@Taizu314
@Taizu314 6 жыл бұрын
This could put so many kids at risk for abuse from violently homophobic/transphobic parents. Some children unfortunately have parents they need protecting from.
@DarkNeckrowSilence
@DarkNeckrowSilence 6 жыл бұрын
A *Human being* will come out when he/she is ready. I'm not gay but I'm very sorry that y'all go through all that stress trying to keep it a secret...... I understand that you can't help being who you are, but one day when you are ready to come out to the right people who care about you, you will feel a weight being lifted off you. My sister came out as bisexual, but she is the best sister a brother ever wanted and I always make sure she's alright. Remember always love yourself and know that's it's NEVER your fault. Youre just a normal human being like everyone else :)
@IlluminatiLand
@IlluminatiLand 8 жыл бұрын
I'm Super Straight!
@MultiPoseur
@MultiPoseur 8 жыл бұрын
I don't really care! -what everyone should be thinking.
@hermanjohnson9180
@hermanjohnson9180 8 жыл бұрын
MultiPoseur Yeah, I'm straight and both sides annoy me.
@frankieloinandgroin
@frankieloinandgroin 6 жыл бұрын
MultiPoseur So if someone is straight we don't give a shit. Great! cause you better do the same for the gays, because equalityyyyyyyy.
@chewingduckquackson2042
@chewingduckquackson2042 6 жыл бұрын
Fransisco Xayaphonesongkham you don't risk your life if your straight you
@frankieloinandgroin
@frankieloinandgroin 6 жыл бұрын
chewingduck quackson If we should acknowledge gay people, we should acknowledge the straight people.
@wdstraub
@wdstraub 8 жыл бұрын
They are just discovering their identities at that age. Leave them kids alone.
@benw9949
@benw9949 6 жыл бұрын
How many times would a school misidentify a student who was rumored to be gay, but wasn't? How many times would a school out a gay student, resulting in the parents not accepting their child, then either the teen is sent to an ex-gay camp, or kicked out, or runs away, or is simply not accepted and lives the remainder of his or her teens in an effectively hostile prison-like environment, the parents and child at odds, also affecting other kids at home? Terrible idea. If this is passed into law, it could cause terrible harm. The figures for how many homeless youth are not straight, and how many kids in school feel threatened because they hear gay slurs, or have been victims of violence because they were perceived to be gay, are terribly high. The problem does not need to be made worse. if more kids get kicked out, what happens? Homeless kids who turn to prostitution, drugs, and other crime in order to survive, or they end up dead or addicted or with STD's. Very rarely do they get lucky enough to get off the streets and get clean. Stupid politicians who do not think things through and think they're doing right. Sure, the students are minors, but their sex/gender orientation should be their private information because if revealed, it could result in their harm, abuse, neglect, homelessness, ou name it.
@kinglyhook6044
@kinglyhook6044 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people are not ready and it is a very emotional and stressful thing you can't just out someone who is not ready that can seriously mess up a person for years
@Aeroldoth3
@Aeroldoth3 8 жыл бұрын
DDSS from the homophobic small gvmt tea party. Here's my rider for her bill: 1) Any student outed by this bill can claim free mental health care for as long as they're a student, paid for by the state. 2) Any student outed by this bill and harmed by their parents can file to be divested from their parents, with them losing legal custody. 3) Any student displaced as a result of this bill will be approved for full gvmt aid for a private apt, with rent/ food/ utilities covered. 4) Any student death that results from this bill will result in a day of mourning at school, where all students, educators and parents will be MANDATED to undergo senstivitiy training, or face heavy fines.
@bonaventura1519
@bonaventura1519 8 жыл бұрын
Just have the citizens make sure the law is properly enforced [i.e., by making sure the gender identity of ALL students is shared] and then the law will soon disappear. The sheer logistics of ascertaining from each student his/her gender identity and then contacting every parent to tell them the child's gender expression/orientation would be so logistically challenging I don't think the law would last long. Plus, since gender identity is a so-called "choice," have all of the students get together to choose a new gender identity for each month to make the gender collecting and reporting just that much onerous.
@bonaventura1519
@bonaventura1519 8 жыл бұрын
Terrence Smith lol
@darkmantlestudios
@darkmantlestudios 8 жыл бұрын
Or they will just selectively enforce, in effect targeting certain children.
@dunhilda9541
@dunhilda9541 8 жыл бұрын
Male and Female If you think that is hard work, you never worked in your life.
@bonaventura1519
@bonaventura1519 8 жыл бұрын
darkmantlestudios exactly, that is the only way that law is practical. which is why straight, non-trans students need to participate in that "I am Sparticus" moment; and parents of straight, non-trans students need to demand to be informed of their children's gender alignment if the law is to be enforced against other students. I think it also leaves them open to a lawsuit by LGBTQ students for selected, targeted enforcement.
@bonaventura1519
@bonaventura1519 8 жыл бұрын
Dun Hilda regardless of whether or not you agree with the existence of transgender/same sex attraction individuals, many people do and this is largely what the battle is over, dealing with the fact that there are people who feel that way and want to be respected as human beings. And, making those kinds of determinations, in that context, is difficult. The people who are writing the law believe there are only two options correlating with biological gender but the law itself that they wrote does not assume two genders correlating with biological gender. So, the discussion is fundamentally over an "as if" reality, if you will, which is why - assuming the parameters of the discussion- no one can just boil it down to two. I do think there is a difference between demanding tolerance and respect for someone as a human being who experiences LGBTQ, and approving of what they are doing as a result of those experiences. While I experience some of those feelings myself, given my Catholic background I cannot approve of certain relationships among individuals who feel same sex attraction, but this is not going to stop me from supporting national measures to protect them from abuse and to protect the national value of tolerance for individuals with whom I disagree.
@Lifebydesignvlogs
@Lifebydesignvlogs 8 жыл бұрын
There is only 2 gender male and female.
@patrickmartz2865
@patrickmartz2865 8 жыл бұрын
It must be difficult being the sole person to decide on what defines gender. Curious, how did you get this role? Were you appointed or was it by vote?
@zsfreestyles2007
@zsfreestyles2007 8 жыл бұрын
They're gonna hand out nametags with a sausage and the title "Homo" in italics by mid 2017.
@haleypolk4433
@haleypolk4433 6 жыл бұрын
What happens when a teacher is forced to tell a parent that their child is gay and that parent goes home and beats that kid? This opens up opportunity for abusive or close minded parents to further abuse and control their children.
@Kachok80
@Kachok80 8 жыл бұрын
Any sexual behavior for school aged children is dangerous behavior straight or gay. So if they have to report them for being gay they should also report heterosexual behavior, but I somehow doubt they will apply that fairly in fact I am willing to bet against it. I am a social conservative and even I think ostracizing gay people of any age is absolute stupidity.
@Bladezeromus
@Bladezeromus 8 жыл бұрын
Enigma Cipher They already do report on that.
@MegaDrunkViking
@MegaDrunkViking 8 жыл бұрын
Enigma Cipher This wouldn't be catching him doing it with another guy, this is being told "I am gay" and forced to disclose who said it.
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 8 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't your legal guardian be aware of your sexual orientation?
@soufianebdaoui8631
@soufianebdaoui8631 8 жыл бұрын
Not if you don't want to let them know. Or if they are religious people.
@adamn7516
@adamn7516 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. Thats personal thing thats up to the child to reveal.
@JohnDoe-ns7mc
@JohnDoe-ns7mc 8 жыл бұрын
The question is whether or not children of certain ages have certain privacy rights.
@Trixx488
@Trixx488 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam N what age group are we talking about?
@Maartimer
@Maartimer 8 жыл бұрын
Where does the line go? Individual fetishes, or just preferred genitalia?
@quantumblurrr
@quantumblurrr 8 жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@livvy654
@livvy654 6 жыл бұрын
"my heart goes out for those baby gays" you are my new favorite person
@JoeVincentPresents
@JoeVincentPresents 8 жыл бұрын
all this would do is force kids to hide in the closet if they aren't ready to tell their parents. They'd just hide it from their teachers...which only leads to negativity. No one can be happy unless they aren't having to live a lie or hide.
@jnw85
@jnw85 8 жыл бұрын
not sure if Russia or merica
@kharnakcrux2650
@kharnakcrux2650 8 жыл бұрын
i still think LGB needs to drop the T
@Bawhoppen
@Bawhoppen 8 жыл бұрын
the full letters now are actually LGBTQIAPK now (not a joke)
@kharnakcrux2650
@kharnakcrux2650 8 жыл бұрын
Dlsturbedfan you're not linked. it's based on a gross misunderstanding of personality, attachment style, and attraction. You'll figure it out in a few years.
@kharnakcrux2650
@kharnakcrux2650 8 жыл бұрын
Dlsturbedfan keep fuckin' :3 keeeeeep fuckin'
@radicalantiglobalist5612
@radicalantiglobalist5612 8 жыл бұрын
but what if your a pansexual gender fluid gender neutral non binary gender non conforming radical multicultural intersection feminist social justice advocate ? did I cover enough identities ?
@wowdragonsoul8712
@wowdragonsoul8712 8 жыл бұрын
No you need 57 more before it's acceptable and then it will be unacceptable because it will be too long to read.
@benw9949
@benw9949 6 жыл бұрын
Not funny. You do realize kids will be harmed if they're outed to unaccepting families, right? You're making fun of it and not accepting it. Go google the percentage of homeless youth who identify as not straight. You don't care, do you?
@cosmictraveler1146
@cosmictraveler1146 6 жыл бұрын
chuuchu Such thing as a time and place.
@spheyuh
@spheyuh 6 жыл бұрын
Radical Anti Globalist not the right time or place.
@arthurneddysmith
@arthurneddysmith 8 жыл бұрын
The consequence of this will be that a gay child whose parents don't know they are gay (for whatever reason) will now have to hide their sexuality from the school as well in order to prevent their parents from finding out. Yet another consequence will be that if a teacher, by law, must inform a parent of the child's sexual orientation, what if the teacher does not know? What if that information or topic has never come up in relation to a student? Is the teacher supposed to investigate? For that matter, is the teacher supposed to keep records on who is and who isn't gay or are they supposed to commit such information to memory? Are they now going to have to analyse the conduct of students and look for "clues" as to their sexuality? -All of which point out that the logic this law has not been thought out in any way whatsoever.
@ZoraTheberge
@ZoraTheberge 8 жыл бұрын
It's like Doctor-patient confidentiality. A teacher, other than assigning homework and choosing grades, also has to be a mentor and counselor.
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