Thien Baffle & Wynn Filter for upgrade Harbor Freight Dust Collector-Woodworking with Stumpy Nubs 35

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This Week we make some upgrades to our single stage dust collector- A Thien Baffle and a Wynn filter. Plus a lot more!

[@skampp]

Dude this is solid gold. All it needed for perfection was a cameo from Gary Coleman. Love it, a great video that keeps on giving! Thank you sir!

[@nicolasbusse]

Watching this in 2024, admiring those graphics at the intro! Great info on the dust issue

[@mathewanderson2400]

"it's not just for festool catalogue" .... 7 years later and this is still hilarious and applicable!

[@100Butchieboy]

Stumpy, Thought I would add my two cents. The thein separator really works great. I went one step further and added a plastic trash bag in the trash can so you could just close and seal the bag prior to removing the saw dust. Eliminates all the dust problems associated with getting rid of the dust. The trick to this is to take an old rubbermaid / plastic trash can, slit it down the side, trim off the bottom and slide it into the can holding the plastic trash bag. Works great. Enjoy your shows. Regards, Ray in Omaha

[@cyrilnorrie8450]

I can't believe I had never watched this video before! Your videos started out great and have only improved since then, teaching me many techniques which have proven to be instrumental in the way I do my woodworking. Thanks so much!

[@craiggarrisonsr]

OMG... This is 10 years old! I'm new to woodworking and thus channel has been invaluable... But, this...😂

[@dallasburnworth]

"It's called a trash can, and it's not just for Festool catalogs anymore." Hahahahaaaaa! Awesome!

[@davebenson1021]

Back in my day Poptop cans and clear bottles helped me and my friends in the shop. Some times we didn't get our projects started for 2 - - 3 extra weekends later cause we had to do a little more figuring and we ran out of supplies ! You guys are into those secret under the table refreshments. No, seriously, you boys are entertaining. Keep it up.

[@ianspaintpot]

that is a lot of work for something that is just goint to sit there collecting dust

[@jimwampler6210]

James, I stumbled upon this episode while surfing the night away. Well done, you have come a long, long way since 2013. As always thank you for your content.

[@pizzawarlord9232]

I have watched this episode many times since it originally came out. First few times for knowledge the next 100 times because it is hilarious. Keep up the great work!

[@davebenson1021]

Oh yea, take it easy on my buddy CN. He was a Valley Boy for awhile. Not even sure where he is now but he is famous now.

[@StumpyNubs]

CN? You mean Charles Neil?

[@davebenson1021]

@@StumpyNubs Yea. Just kiddin with you guys.

[@_BLANK_BLANK]

I really like these older sillier videos.

[@StumpyNubs]

You can, in fact it's a good idea if you don't have to worry about neighbors complaining. I have heard that it can be a problem for keeping the shop warm in the winter time, but I haven't tried it out to see how much of an issue it would be in a small shop running the collector in short bursts of time.

[@PanyingPilot]

Animated bumper, costumed cut always, solid instruction. This is several steps above the ordinary. Your social media legacy is secure.

[@fltofancy]

your baffle system will work even better if you extend the outlet port (the one in the center) just below the lower baffle plate. You run the risk of sucking debris directly from the inlet to the outlet with the design presented. Extending the outlet pipe forces the air to go around the outer perimeter of the can to get to the outlet. It will work even better with this modification.

[@donrobertson4940]

I think the baffle is to stop dust etc getting sucked up when the bin gets full. I've made a cyclone collector out of two buckets, and don't have a baffle. So long as I empty it daily it hasn't got too full - yet. Just connected to a shop vac and dust port on tools. World pretty well. Gets 90% plus of the dust, keeping the vac bags from filling.

[@philporada5655]

OG Stumpy Nubs videos are awesome

[@edcaffey4248]

Thanks for sharing and thanks for the laughs. Keep up the excellent work.

[@guitfdlr]

"Wynning" lol that cracked me up.

[@johnvieke1332]

“I’m a guy who owns at least a dozen denim shirts, so I like to live life on the edge...”. Lol

[@garycrumrine9538]

Love the Lincoln death mask in the background.

[@charlestubbs7670]

RE: Thien Baffle & Wynn filter show. I built one some years back for my HF single stage collector. It has improved the dust problem considerably, however on mine there is no good way to clean the filter without complete disassembly of the filter. I have since seen some kind of crank on the filters and am wondering if you have built one. I am going to install one on my filter but if it has already been done it will save me from reinventing the wheel. Thank you. I enjoy your very informative shows. Very helpful.

[@louisscott1063]

I like this, looks like easy to make, my first requirement.

[@jienwallebeck9818]

Do you have any plans on the Thein Baffle in this episode? Thanks.

[@youtrades]

Holy cows- what a gem! YT popped this up for me while I was looking for a less expensive filter for ma harbor freight system. You justa bout had me rollin! I've been watching you for years, and didn't even know you went back that far!! I also think "far out" woulda been perfect...;-D

[@mightyporky]

I have been butchering wood for most of my 73 years, and the old adage " If you do the best you can with what you have, it cannot be done better" has proven true many times over. I use several Harbor Freight tools , some appear cheap and yes they are, but if that is all I can afford then I buy it. I have made and sold high end furniture, cabinets and now wooden soap molds. What I am trying to say is simple, just like me, it ain't the brand name but the person who builds with what they have that gets the job done right. My shop made Thein and Harbor freight dust collector vented outside, do just great. I figured the 90 day warranty was a bad sign, it may have been but that was seven years ago..........

[@justincanine933]

Woodmaster Pete I'm going on 15 years full time building custom furniture. I've been on my own now for 5 years and all I've ever used are harbor freight dust collectors and clamps. It has never been an issue for me and sometimes I feel like there is an overemphasis on higher end gear. The shop at which I did my apprenticeship and spent the first 10 years of my career only used high end tools and I really haven't ever felt like I'm missing out on anything with my cheap-o-depot specials. I believe your observation about the mettle of the person being more important than the equipment being used is right on point. Except when it comes to chisels and planes; then only the finest handmade special order tools are even worth considering. (At least that's what I tell myself to justify buying pretty toys)

[@josephromero1596]

wow I can tell a huge difference between ur older videos and recent ones lol Ur way more calm cool and collect now :)

[@johnswimcat]

Thanks Guys, I'm building a Thien baffle today. I'll let you know how it goes

[@johnswimcat]

Right, so I knocked up a basic Thien baffle using some offcuts of OSB. I thought it might not work but I needn't have worried. The thing is amazing. It separates out 99.9% at least of the dust, only a small amount of very fine dust reaches the shop vac filter and there's almost nothing in the shop vac drum. Brilliant, I can't recommend these things enough

[@jwmhenderson]

You mention plans for the shop vac on your Website but I can not find it please let me know where I can find it

[@knkincabotkent9486]

Were plans made available for the single stage separater?

[@cfoskeeter]

Is the 35a series filter the one that's compatible with the Harbor Freight 2 hp dust collector?

[@roykeyes2916]

Any idea where the plans for the 5-gallon bucket version is? I can't find it on the site, lol.

[@peterberrios5656]

I am looking for any thoughts about using my electric Roybi leaf vac as a dust collector..for what ever reason, it only has suction, the blower stopped functioning. So, is there any reason I couldn't use it to suck dust through 4" PVC and into a collection container, i.e. plastic garbage can...any feed back?

[@nitroxdiver1969]

great show

[@georgelza]

Question, on a Baffle system, does the baffle box need to keep a vacuum/seal with the drum below it, or can the bottom of the baffle just rest on the top of the drum ?

[@farmallcubtractor]

Can't find any info on your website for these 2 dust collectors with Thien Baffle Thanks.

[@timmsmiithgm557]

So if I'm going to vent the shop vac out a window, do I still need a dust separator? Will the concrete dust likely gum something up on it's unfiltered way through the shop vac?

[@mattneff1262]

Didn't see the info on the site?

[@imortaldeadead]

I was unable to find it...would you kindly put a link here so we can locate it please and thank you 😊

[@diesle05]

stumpy, i cant find the plans for the mini thine baffle please help

[@Fun4GA]

I'm surprised to see you set your hand planes down on their blades. I was trained from the beginning to set them on their side.

[@StumpyNubs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGOcZJqXgNabaMU

[@jimw544]

Hey James, I was surfing for "Jet Thein Baffle" when I found this video. I'm thinking of making a Thein Baffle for my Jet DC1100. Mine is the one without the upside-down wok. Looks pretty easy. But does it really work?? I saw a video where a guy had tacked his Jet on a closet wall and added a Thein Baffle, yet the plates still had a lot of dust. So, does the Thein Baffle really work? Or would I be better off using a real cyclone and a barrel?

[@haroldnewton3135]

Have you considered a return to old stories? Now that you’ve got a larger shop in a really up-to-date and powerful dust collection system what do you think of these trashcan solutions now?

[@thomasgreen8532]

That was fun

[@viscache1]

I put a 4” pvc system throughout the shop then through a giant 4 hp electric motor driven 36” squirrel cage and onto a ginormous pile of chips and dust outside the shop. When it reaches 6-8’ tall i take it to spread on the pumpkin fields...voila!

[@brucepatz4492]

My can seems to have created a dent near the bottom, any suggestions?

[@erritwilson9927]

I am doing research on dust collection systems and had a few questions. 1. What is better pvc, metal, flex hose for duct work? 2. Can wood be used for table dust collector setups? I see KZbins cutting and stretching hose all over the body of assembly tables and I am thinkin "we are all working with wood". 3. Why can't you seal a box and use it in place of dust collector hose, pvc, other junk that gets expensive? Does dust collection lose these mysterious cfm's if you use something other than pvc, metal, or flex? I am building a chopsaw cabinet setup and will be adding a variation of the rockler chip collection box and adding a shopsmith 330L dust collector motor on the side. I want to add my rikon 10-347 that has 2, 4" ports to it. Do I need to buy flex, pvc, or metal duct to make it work better or just add the baffles and sealed wood for the longest of the runs? Thanks for your time.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

ADMITTEDLY... not Stumpy, nor Mustache... {just so you know up front} BUT... I'm on my own research rabbet hole, too... AND I can help a little here and there... 1. This is going to depend mostly on what's available (cheapest versus convenient) to you... AND don't discount that convenience principle... Knowing a material better so you can work with it in the first place is irreplaceable. Personally, due to air-flow intentions, I'm going to suggest either PVC or Metal for most of your duct-work. Flex hose is okay, BUT it is also flexible, which adds "compressible" to the litany of issues already inherent to a system. You can't avoid all the air-leakage... a little fault is inherent. AND for what it's worth, air flows (fluid) just like water... AND just like water, when you put pressure (even negative pressure... like a vacuum) into a flexible container, some of the efficiency is lost... the "work" being done is flexing the hose and not moving the air... make sense? Otherwise, it's about cost constraints and YOU... Whether you're just more comfortable farting around with adjustments in metal and deburring every time you cut something... OR you have an inherent ability with PVC... pick the one YOU find most compatible with your space and your tools. There's no good to come of wasting a fortune on some metal working tools that you're only ever going to get out if your vacuum system failed and burnt the place to the ground... (jk.., it's good to giggle a bit) 2. Wood... YES. Actually, wood can be used in any segment or section of the dust-collection. Whether you use it for supports, or baffles, or for the hook-ups to tools and equipment... It's fine to go forward with that... Wood DOES come with a couple caveats... First, and most important... Wood is porous, meaning it's rough at the surface (even sanded extremely fine) and allows air to leak... There are a couple solutions, but whether you go for the all-encompassing tedium of finishing and finishing and more finishing to get the glassy smoothe effect for minimal dust... OR you buy up some reasonable laminate material to smoothe and seal the wood portions of your ducts, pickups, sweeps, junctions and all... There are going to be more leak-ish results, decreasing some of the airflow from potential... Second... Dust sticks to wood like a M... F.... AND it really doesn't seem to matter how you finish it. The only relevant importance here is that you understand it going in... You don't want to be opening up a bit of duct thinking it's "just a little thing" and find yourself up to earlobes in a cleaning and janitorial weekend over one "little crack"... 3. In the most technical sense... You CAN just seal a box in place of a reasonable facsimile to the "expensive junk"... The difference is going to be efficiency and effectiveness... A square box isn't going to promote airflow as well as a streamlined "organic" shape... all flowy and cool lookin'... SO there is a bit of engineering involved... Caulk and finishing and even laminates will help with some of the seal-related issues, but wood boxes also leak air. The best "piston fit" wooden fittings will still eventually go together if you just push them together and hold them long enough... not quite so much with plastics and other "space age materials"... so there's that, too. IF it was me... (and I know... it's not)... I'd restrict most of the flexible hose portions to exactly from a "rigid main duct" to the individual tools/locations... like the cabinets, or output connectors supplied with the powertool in question... This probably does the best at maintaining a consistent "draw" for the dust away from the tool, while allowing things like vibrations and incidentals to move the tool and even the cabinet a bit without "hell to pay". Even with the best dust management out there, you're going to have to clean up the shop once in a while. There are also "little things" that get dropped all the time. The last thing anyone really needs is to drop a washer and have to spend the next three hours taking apart the dust capture system to move the tablesaw (or some other tool) just about six inches to the left to quite reach the damn washer... magnets and pickup tools are great, but there's always that one in ten-thousand... you know? Besides... It's SOOOooo much more convenient to be able to swivel an obscenely large tool aside, clean or open and maintain it, and put it back... OR just shift it a bit, disconnect it from the "port" and close that "port" and then move it to where you think you want it NOW... rather than tear-down about a thousand dollars and two thousand man-hours of duct-work and turbo-fans, unbolt the cabinet from the floot, haul in a lift or hand-truck and then get to the business of separating the wiring... ALL of this to prepare to move A (one, uno, singular) tool... with or without the cabinet. Ultimately, though... however extreme you are about cleanliness or air-purity, environment, etc... and how sensible you prefer to "attack" this one... is up to YOU. I hope I've helped... at least a little. I hope I've let you smile and even laugh as you actively engage in thinking this through. Best of luck with it. ;o)

[@DustyTravis]

What kind of miter trimmer is that on your work bench, Stumpy? I'm trying to get my old Fox up and running. Nice video, as usual!

[@mikehand71]

First, it looks like Stumpy had too much coffee because he can't be still and is almost dancing. :-) Second, what type of separator do you like best and/or which one does the better separation job... the Thien Baffle or the cone cyclone?

[@iasimov5960]

Where did you get the Lincoln death mask? I want one. I should tell you about the evening I spent at Roy Underhill's house sometime.

[@stevelafrate1968]

My chip separator hates long thin hand plane shavings. Anyone else have this problem or a possible solution?

[@conniesensmeier3959]

Could someone please tell me where to find the plans for this? I have searched the website purchasing a few plans one of which I thought was the plan for the Thien Baffle & Wynn for upgrade HF dust collector it wasn’t. I would appreciate if someone would point me in the right direction. Thank you!

[@logan_kes]

Does he mean floor joist pan from the duct connection section instead of dust collection?

[@johnchisholm8807]

Logan .Kes of

[@scarmenl]

No sawstop for me. I'm saving up for a 10ft slider. Martin I think.

[@croakerchoker504]

I got a sawstop :) I want to see a dado stack on a hot dog

[@tburfine2000]

Hey Stumpy, put Mustache Mike's Que cards closer to the camera. It looks like he is looking at his Johnson when he is reading the cards.

[@stevezartman7238]

I cannot locate the plans on your site for the dust collection system. Can you post the link please

[@garychapin3383]

I would also like the plans for the dust collection system.

[@bdownie37]

Also looking for the plans for this project?

[@washburn_morning_dad3883]

Excellent video, as always. Thanks Stumpy!

[@777tomwall]

How long before we can get the garbage can plans. Thanks Build a "Thien Baffle" We make TWO versions- one with a trashcan for a full size dust collector, and one with a 5 gallon pail for a shop vacuum.

[@MrMrwilem]

wow

[@SorinPetcuStoplaStup]

'...and viola...!' :))) 04:00

[@tdz69]

No we don't know Randy. This isn't home improvement with Tim and AL guys. Brutal to watch

[@jcrm05]

Why can't you just connect the shop vac to the 4" outlet with a reduction, instead of making another baffle with smaller connections?

[@JonJon-gu7xy]

mmm sawstop!.... One day.... Can't wait for the hand tool episodes! Thanks for the post.

[@peterstewart9376]

hahahaha woodworking humor :D

[@chad61]

Hey, Stumpy! U ever see that NYW episode where Norm is all 'Not Roman ORGY, Roman OGEE'? Lolz!!

[@effgjamis8236]

Nice job. However, I would be willing to wager that your trash can collapsed when you turned it on. I found after two weeks of use, the can developed breaks in the side due to the flexing of the metal. So I had to start over, and use a 55 gal can due to its metal strength. Now its seems to be ok. and now back to creating saw dust.

[@woodwynn]

Wynn

[@kmcwoodwork]

why cant you just exhaust to the outside

[@terrythomas4407]

That was semi-helpful. The info was good but the jokes and cutaways from the topic made it like looking for a for a quarter in a mud hole. The mud began to lower the the of the quarter until it didn't seem like it was worth the effort.

[@MichaelEMaus]

Voila'! 'Viola'...

[@balisticsquirel]

Link that MM gives in this vid does not exist. You could at least note this in the description.

[@batbawls]

Not sure why all the comment hate. I thought this was fairly entertaining.

[@davebenson1021]

Oh yea, its called sneaking up on the mark ! Ok, i'm done now.

[@koconnor]

Your website says "Downloadable plans coming soon". It's been seven years. Will I have to wait much longer? My workshop is getting very dusty. Seven years of dust is a LOT of dust. :)

[@donrobertson4940]

Viola?

[@RickMcQuay]

My neighbor's yappy dog.

[@2blackdanes]

How about baby birds on a sawstop!

[@williamfitzer4805]

Whatever happened to mustache mike?

[@fred4513]

in other words , it, aint the arrow, it's the Indian!

[@guywnelson]

it says downloadable plans coming soon. How do you define "soon"

[@StumpyNubs]

We never made plans. Not enough interest. I can't take those words out of the video. Sorry.

[@NASTYcraftX]

I'm watching this in 2017. This was hilarious.

[@NASTYcraftX]

Omg a Charlie Sheen joke!

[@michaeltouchette8156]

anyone trying this on their own BEWARE... its' a nightmare of a time trying to find all the parts you'll need to properly pull this off. been to home depot lowes rockler woodcraft ( they had 5" parts that were threaded backwards from the 5" hose...WTF) and none of them carry the right parts to properly pull off the 5" connection t o the trash can.... searched online for days and nada..... buy a shit load of epoxy and hope you have some fabrication skills to make your own parts......

[@MustachMike]

Naw. Drumsticks aren't big enough yet!

[@johndavidson2365]

why is there a comment section anyway? if you have a question ask. if you have an opinion, keep it to yourself.

[@SJ-dn8dn]

its called "Comments" for a reason but apparently you are illiterate

[@johndavidson2365]

And if your a big old D, comment.

[@retrogamegeek1]

A sawstop!!!!!?????

[@gfw1973]

Does anyone know if a Thien baffle will still work if the airflow is pushed into it vs sucked out of it? My planer exhausts it's own chips. If I were able bodied I'd simply build one and see, but I'm disabled and building things is difficult so looking for input and/or experience with this. Also any 'bad' design flaws to avoid? Thanks

[@frankdumas7634]

George Woodworth Yes it does. There s a KZbin video on it

[@physicsguybrian]

Why copper beach? That's a brass screw!

[@JimCouch]

Great show however y'all need to work on your website and make sure the links Mustache Mike give out actually work :D Love the look and comedy but please spend more time on the projects than the funnies. I love a good laugh but I also came to learn something too.

[@siderix1]

mpla mpla mpla....................

[@logan_kes]

Who uses their shopvac for sucking up golf balls?

[@mikeygee4564]

Man, I'm so glad you got away from this goofy format. I love ya now, but may not have stuck around with these old ones. I mean this as encouragement for the direction you headed and how you continue to improve. Big fan of the channel and appreciate you!

[@sm0139]

I can't even believe the negative comments! What a bunch of snowflakes! I like the humour and the presentation. Keep going and the haters be darned.

[@themonkeydrunken]

Dude... don't set your planes down on the blade! :)

[@georgekatsinis5224]

With that many hand planes, you should know better. I cringed when you set the planes down on the blade.

[@StumpyNubs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGOcZJqXgNabaMU

[@unpacttv8501]

Don't say "VIOLA" (4:05). It's french and it is "VOILA" (means "here it is") ;-)

[@StumpyNubs]

+Unpact Tv I know. It's was a joke.

[@jeremyspecce]

🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Creator_Nater]

Unpact Tv wow.

[@hawkowl455]

Stumpy, grow a mustache and you'll pass as a younger Mike.

[@karpenterken1]

Phil Thien's last name is pronounced THEEN. How do I know? I was curious so I asked him. Also, I find it interesting how you're promoting dust collection so seriously in this video (I agree with you about Wynn filters) and you've bought an expensive SawStop table saw, promoting that online, yet you take pot shots at Festool tools and the people who buy them, because of their high cost. Their high cost is mainly due to the quality of their tools and the excellent dust collection at those tools. My point isn't to promote the brand. I just felt as a viewer of your videos, practice what you preach. I don't have a problem with you or anyone not liking a brand for whatever reason, but after watching this video, I'm hearing mixed messages from you.

[@mightyporky]

stick to woodworking, comedy is not your forte......

[@p.s8950]

Couldn't make it thru this vid. Too corny...

[@StumpyNubs]

It's an old video from a different era on KZbin.