Thievery

[@AnnoyingMoose]

="If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe." - Carl Sagan

[@misterkai83]

You "stole" from the video essay creators.

[@franminanicollier9431]

The point of art isn't to make yourself seem smart, but to engage in a conversation that was started long before words were invented. It isn't theft to be human.

[@henmat3000]

Oh, you think stealing is your ally. But you merely adopted the steal; I was born in it, moulded by it.

[@eljuanpapas]

"Directors have come and gone ... And not one has come out alive ..." 😮 what a great quote

[@xSavedSoulx]

No one will be truly original, but what truly counts is how well it's executed.

[@stravvman]

4:09 I'm pretty sure Wilhelm screams are Easter eggs and not "stolen sounds"

[@ashroskell]

Gladiator is actually almost a scene for scene remake of The Fall Of The Roman Empire starring Steven Boyd, Christopher Plummer, Sophia Loren and Alec Guinness. It just doesn’t turn the protagonist into an actual gladiator. Ridley Scott made no secret of that. He even said he chose his female lead to look like Sophia Loren. I think he missed the mark badly with that, but that’s what he said about her.

[@chandlerholloway3900]

Wow. I had no idea about this and Gladiator is one of my favs.

[@ashroskell]

@@chandlerholloway3900 : Well worth a watch, but it’s long, so you may wanna’ get some extra popcorn and drinks in. Boyd (an underrated actor in my opinion) makes a really good job of breaking his type casting, as the hero of the piece. And Plummer is having a ball as the villainous Commodus, whose friendship with Boyd’s character breaks down in a very similar manner to Masala and Ben Hur. You’ll recognise direct lifts from this movie in Gladiator right away. The climax (given its historical inaccuracy) is inarguably what inspired Scott’s conclusion to his movie, though I don’t want to say more, for fear of spoilers.

[@chandlerholloway3900]

@@ashroskell Thanks for the recommendation and heads up on the length. I appreciate the brief synopsis and comparisons as well. I’ll definitely check it out. I enjoy Christopher Plummer in any role he plays.

[@ashroskell]

@@chandlerholloway3900 : Oh, then you’re in for a treat. He’s in his prime here, playing a character who is as gleeful about mischief as he is physically energetic in his insanity. Plus there are some awesome stunts, from back in the day when Health And Safety allowed people to do things that you just wouldn’t see in a modern movie, not without CGI at any rate. A spectacular Sunday afternoon special.

[@nobudgetshortfilms5510]

@@chandlerholloway3900 I watched The Fall of The Roman Empire one year prior Gladiator came out, and i spotted it was a remake from the get go.

[@Tooskers]

Theres a line between stealing and referencing

[@wilky1189]

What's on either side of that line?

[@Tooskers]

@@wilky1189 stealing and referencing.

[@cotopaximusic]

​@@wilky1189 my balls with the seam of the sack being the line

[@DamienHurts]

@@wilky1189 you really thought you were asking such a poignant question, didn't you? Thanks for giving me a reason to laugh

[@Isteyak-78]

who draw the line?

[@GreatGreebo]

I’m surprised this doesn’t have a couple hundred thousand views. Well done sir, well done.

[@liran8799]

just don't tell hbomberguy

[@TempleoftheBeagle]

You failed to mention the stagecoach conversation scenes in The Hateful 8 is straight out of John Ford’s 1939 Stagecoach

[@miguelvelasqueztamayo9206]

the narrative ability of your videos is unmatched. Great work! Loved every video since the Napoleon one!

[@CreatorsMZ]

Thanks Miguel!

[@blownupfishnchips9071]

I just got recommended this video and the moment you said Darren Arrennofsky stole from anime you instantly earned my undivided attention.

[@HiddenCharacter1]

I will use this for the argument of “Is sampling old records to make Hip Hop beats stealing?”

[@ArcherGreen]

Great vid! Love the motion graphics

[@CreatorsMZ]

Thanks mate! That’s big coming from you :)

[@overfather1477]

What a god tier video this was ? How is it that you don't have 1 million subscribers good sir ? I'm hooked.

[@theimaginariumnetwork5621]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Imitation is different from stealing. The line is nuanced...but I believe it is there.

[@Darnz_248]

Dude this channel is uber underrated, love your content as a film buff!

[@patrakotoson]

The editing is just top notch. What microphone and audio software do you use ?

[@patricklemire9278]

Eyelight made famous by David Lean? Karl Freund used it in Dracula in 1931, It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s much older than that

[@joelnallo7252]

Yup that eye light has been seen in countless of movies before David Leen. Pretty much half the noir movies of the 40s and 50s had those shots.

[@LuckyBastardProd]

Most silent films did that as well because they didn’t have the lenses for extreme close ups so slapping a barn door on a light told the audience where to look.

[@Robert-ju6ub]

Ah, brave little toaster. My favorite movie as a kid

[@jhendog11]

I love this video. Thank you.

[@thirdhandlv4231]

Billions have stolen from that one guy who sat down to play his banjo and accidentaly invented Rock.

[@ErikDanielHernandezCantu]

The Jurassic Park thing wasn't stealing, it was reference humor

[@ras9070]

Such a good video man. Keep it up.

[@gopbartibogue1651]

One axiom of the mythical mathematician's scholarly work was that if you steal from one source you are committing plagiarism; if you steal from two sources, you are providing documentation; and if you steal from three or more sources, it is - presto - “original research.”

[@Luwidakid]

Wholesome video right here got my subscription 👌🏿

[@jebatman756]

Ok, Pixar from Spielberg? That was an homage and I even knew this as a kid. It was actually an additional joke. Peter Jackson "stealing" the Wizard of Oz was also an homage

[@toweypat]

That's such a stretch. Every shot of a marching army is stolen from "The Wizard of Oz"? Please. How are they supposed to march?

[@loganhurley4764]

Orson Welles infamously hated homage. Said to not watch too many films, but he did say to watch great films. Just don’t homage other directors and their films.

[@flaviolucasbr]

I love The way you edit and direct your videos. You are good man!

[@CreatorsMZ]

Thank you friend, much appreciated!

[@ruzgar1372]

This video makes me proud to be human and definitely helps with the inevitable imposter syndrome of being a writer.

[@BitcoinMotorist]

Good artists copy, great artists steal

[@pomicultorul]

Than you so much for this, I am yours forever!

[@Wallyworld30]

What is funny is sure Tarantino steals from Spaghetti Westerns but those Westerns famously stole from Samurai Movies. The fact that Tarantino blends them both is perfect since the 2 styles are the same. The most famous example is Kurosawa's "The Seven Samurai" (1954) being stolen by westerns and turned into the "The Magnificent Seven" (1960). Akira Kurosawa was even credited as a writer for The Magnificent Seven after a settlement between MGM and Kurosawa who was paid $50,000.

[@sidmarx7276]

I could never understand Tarantino's success. His plots devolve into wannabe cool episodes and his distortion of time conflates viewer confusion with intellectual depth. Compare that with the Magnificent Seven-- a simple struggle of will and purpose against an unjust reality.

[@DanLyndon]

Tarantino and McCarthy, who were both praised here, are incredibly overrated. They make/ made juvenile work with a "cool style" and lots of violence. This is what people consider great art.

[@toweypat]

So true.

[@SuckerKrunch]

I love Tarantino is one of my favorite filmmakers, yet sometimes even I question the acclaim.

[@NPC97536]

Stealing or pay homage?

[@GoodnightwithGlomstad]

Tarantino is really only as good as Roger Avary.

[@Noam_06]

one of the best youtube video i have ever seen

[@CreatorsMZ]

Thanks Noam!

[@vanjamihajlov]

great video

[@AW-kr9fl]

True originality is impossible. It’s about stealing obscure ideas

[@MabDarogan2]

"Electricity has lightning"

[@markodjuric4282]

What is the old movie with the skeletons?

[@CeresKLee]

Imagine a scientist who refused to study any work of those have gone before. HA!

[@tonydesoto8891]

The violence is WHAT? Can’t understand because you started the music on that word.

[@TheSpanishzombie]

Tarantino would be the biggest one when it come to stealing, from title names, shit for shot, alot, music, waaaay too much

[@tomamihai407]

I find him mediocre at best, because if you analyse his movies shot to shot most the scenes are rip-off of famouse scenes from old movies basicaly

[@abebe7325]

@@tomamihai407 what about all of the scenes that make a whole story and a intersting film

[@tomamihai407]

@@abebe7325 he got a few good stories, but in some of his movie you can tell he ran out of ideas midway ex: Christopher waltz killing Leonardo DiCaprio in Django unchained, it felt forced and out of place in my opinion

[@thayerjohnson5654]

Good artists borrow. That great ones steal.

[@ieuansmith518]

"Good artists borrow, great artists steal." By: A lot of people and possibly originating from Picasso- but we don't know.

[@jmdi2703]

All directors steal! All artists steal. Thats the way. But you doing new, fresh thing that stealing material.

[@imnampun2625]

Thanks bro, your video helps boosting my inspiration to become an author. I have all my inspirations from many sources of media to combine in my worldbuilding. Make new out of old.

[@splintert4231]

I thought you were going to mention the Hong Kong film City on Fire from the late 1980's. Basically, the entirety of Reservoir Dogs is the the last 40 or so minutes of City on Fire. The heist, the undercover cop getting gut shot by and killing an innocent person, his friend double hand shooting the cops in the car, the three way stand off at the end... I mean, it's fine, right? He took an entire section of another film and remade it, without giving credit to the original (upon RD's initial release, that is). I guess that's just how things work.

[@fadesfffeee5919]

Is it thievery when someone uses an art element or form created by someone else? Is using shots or styles from predecessors work is thievery? Where does it stop? This is just how art is formed, art does not have to be entirely original to be considered art. using the word thievery makes it seem like an inherently bad thing. It should be celebrated that these older movies have set the groundwork for new movies and link them allowing the old live on longer through the new work. It is mutually beneficial is done right and should not be shamed.

[@nicknewman7848]

There's a difference in using the language of an artform and copying or plagiarising someone else's work obviously. Homage and references abound throughout all artforms, it's how culture evolves and grows. The point of this video is not to accuse people of stealing or say stealing is bad, it's to point out the nature of how culture grows, how creators are influenced etc.. you clearly understand that and yet you fixate on whether the video maker is making a fair 'accusation' and who's being 'shamed'. There is no accusation, there is no shame and there is no blame. That's not the point here.

[@keenansmith-b3f]

Great video👍

[@mzimhlemosiwe5047]

After humanity has had thousands of wars created over the centuries, you make a war movie of world war 2 after a world 1 one movie, then you told you a thief, wtf.. ha ha ha ha ha ha Dude, there is nothing new under the sun!

[@rishav-2749]

The Pixar one was a parody though.

[@kgsvvgla2i]

How can one steal something that cannot be owned?

[@gopbartibogue1651]

Steal like an artist

[@ac-uk6hs]

Tarantino is the best

[@erikramaekers63]

Even Orson Welles stole from Leni Riefenstahl.It's what you do with it

[@RealRoknRollr3108]

There's nothing new under the sun - The Bible

[@bismarckus5745]

The further away in time, the further away from thievery.

[@rdzu834]

In other words, every director in movie history.

[@GoodmansGhost]

Lame ass ending, even lamer than the classic youtube essay ending "it's actually both."

[@Armakk]

Enjoyed every aspect of this except the weird aside about Tarantino in the middle.

[@sidmarx7276]

Tarantino takes theft to a whole new level.

[@martyneary7026]

Loved this. You make some great points. However, there is such a thing as movie homage which is not really stealing but more reverential. Not touched upon in your dissertation.. But all the directors do steal, and artists too. Great artists steal, as Picasso once said...But unfair to single out Tarantino I think.. Yes, he does ' model' his work on influences, for sure. You should have mentioned that Reservoir Dogs was a ripoff over City on Fire (87) ...anyway, in his unique way, Tarantino is an original. Pulp Fiction being a masterpiece in style. Who else has produced something as original as that? You could have stated other directors that have been guilty of stealing: Brian De Palma a notable example and even Guy Ritchie who must have watched Good Fellas a million times, judging by his borrowed aesthetics. Cheers for the watch..

[@streetwisedongle6345]

You, good sire, are a cotton eyed man genius)

[@vb_blokeboi7251]

Bro I get that the algorithm preys on this clickbait title shit but it sucks because I feel like I can't judge an essay on its merits when the title is formatted like this

[@matthewjaniss4103]

There has only been 7 stories ever told.

[@nevadabelongstothencr47622]

Which ones?

[@matthewjaniss4103]

@@nevadabelongstothencr47622 1 overcoming the monster 2 rags to riches 3 the quest 4 voyage and return 5 comedy 6 tragedy 7 rebirth There are of course exceptions to this list but it contains what are considered the core seven.

[@Guernicaman]

There's a HUGE difference between inspiration, homage, reference & outright theft. Please learn to tell the difference.

[@PacificaJaena]

This man is so lucky to have the dislike button irrelevant 😂

[@skipdonaghue9451]

Aye, Jimmy Page still gets fuckin loads of grief for thievin stuff!

[@kgsvvgla2i]

Yeah, although he actually stole just a few things. There's nothing stolen about any of his work outside Led Zeppelin I.

[@vinvanveen]

Good video but my god the vocal fry is annoying

[@hrvojemastelic6935]

Tarantino is overrated

[@AlanTheOlive]

[@justbe3713]

Tarantino has always been more a “DJ” than anything else.

[@SmithMrCorona]

QT popularized whole sale stealing. Now we have things like The Barbie Movie, which is a colorful pastiche of Stanley Kubrick movies. We're now very proud of how unoriginal we are. People bitch and moan about reboots and remakes, when really, we should be griping about how were just watching an assemblage of scenes from better flicks.

[@sami12569]

Pretty sure people bitch and moan about both of those things. Also who is "we", you mean current filmmakers? Hollywood? "colorful pastiche of Stanley Kubrick movies." I mean there's some undeniable truth here, but I don't hold it against the Barbie movie because ultimately I would never call that film anything close to a Stanley Kubrick picture despite how derivative of his style and conventions it is. I don't get how you could argue that people should be more solely complaining on "watching an assemblage of scenes from better flicks" (and that's such an exaggeration) rather than reboots and remakes. Maybe 'cause, idk, it's inherently more offensive for regular audiences to view something like the entire plot of "Mean Girls" a second time but worse, rather than collectively going "oH mY gOsH, the continuous composition of these shots is taken straight from *insert director* style."

[@SmithMrCorona]

@@sami12569 It's not about comparing quality, it's all about aping shots. I'm tired of people shouting out their "references". The board room set up to looki like the fucking war room from Dr. Strangelove has been done to goddamned death, for example.

[@sami12569]

​@@SmithMrCorona Your original comment is still silly, but yeah I agree with you, "references" are tiresome.

[@DanLyndon]

Ah, Barbie, a dumbed down, formulaic bunch of nonsense that pretends it's conversing with the work of a great artist.

[@willscorner8423]

Tarantino is the most overrated director in movie history.

[@isakmustafa9704]

But also the one who nows films more than any directors.

[@howkel]

Very insightful

[@batmanbear]

Name a handful of other great directors... they all respect Tarantino.

[@folkers78]

This is a disgustingly horrendous take

[@Angel-Otk]

No shot can be original anymore… paying homage and having the knowledge to understand what you’re borrowing from is more than you or other people could do, which is why he is where he is

[@BigShnozRyan]

I’m way to early 😂

[@ΚωστήςΠαπαδημητρίου]

Boring

[@saiflix1]

Can’t handle the truth ?

[@ΚωστήςΠαπαδημητρίου]

@@saiflix1 huh?

[@riftsalty7562]

your fault for clicking and having a low attention span