Things Got HEATED In The Elder Scrolls Online ... Again

[@naplzt4k]

the lead combat dev being bad at combat was a moment of clarity why the 'balance' changes are bad, especially concerning pvp

[@StaryBrudnyLis187]

You can be bad at combat as a dev but you should know the God damn mechanics. This dude didn't know he can refresh with heavy attacks and stuff

[@naplzt4k]

@StaryBrudnyLis187 yea that's what I meant not just a bad player but he had a bad build and didn't even understand basic resource management

[@GoalOrientedLifting]

Its a large company, which means every important decision probably goes through 3-11 levels of management. The people whos actually knowledgable are the ones actually working on it. Just like how the manager i had(when was an basic operator) at a factory didnt know how fully how the machines operated, the minute details and how to start em. managers have a surface level knowledge, and even if he was super knowledgable, it would change much, cause he got at least 5 people abov him, who doesnt even play games, and he has to persuade em all for anything to come through, and they all got veto powers. If one of em question it, or find some detail they dont like, you have to redo it, and it will start at the bottom of the management ladder agin. The previous boss( who is the best boss ive ever had), when i later worked there as an electrician/technician, didnt have technical background. He didnt know how individual machines worked, He didnt know what it takes to repair em. All he knows is that stuff stops working and it needs to be solved, and make sure certain issues doesnt become a trend. And thats why he had dedicated technicians under him to do it. Its my job to tell him, in a reasonable and clear manner, the issues. What can be improved, whats worth investing time/money im, general issues. He doesnt need to know, he only needs to know the general lay of the land then delegate, find who knows enough to deal with. His job is to keep it operating, which means he has a good understanding of the operation, but he deals mostly with people, and the managers above him Btw, this is not defend zenimax, or their owners. But he is gettin thrown under the buss for a systemic issue; brought down on him and workersby people above him and shareholders once youve worked in a decent sized company; it becomes apparent why stuff are the way they are.

[@naplzt4k]

@GoalOrientedLifting most likely the only decisions upper management make are making money...combat doesn't affect people buying crowns so they probably leave it up to brian to have the final say and he's probably the 1 who leaves the developer notes on changes to combat/sets in the patch notes. I wish upper management would realize how bad they actually are and not just listen to a handful of forum posters who are just roleplayers and questers

[@VenominaI]

The combat designer doesn't know anything about combat, explains the state of PvP over the last 6 years.

[@Colorado94]

👏👏

[@ESO_PRIME]

1000%

[@silaf1496]

Why you are leaving out PvE lol

[@VenominaI]

@@silaf1496 Don't play it, can't speak for it.

[@paulc5389]

He probably dies in delves too and finds overland content challenging. Thus explaining the game being boringly easy.

[@kurjajuur]

Unrealistic expectation of the combat lead to know that heavy attacks restore resources. Yep.

[@DrizztRPG]

New Crown Store Token: "Job Title Rename:" Let's Change it from: "Lead Combat Designer" to "Nice Dude", in that case no one will care when he fails in combat.

[@NobodyAsked-p5p]

Honestly, it goes beyond PvP, you cannot expect someone that doesn't know that heavy attacks restore resources to be capable of balancing the game. It's the height of ineptitude. Mechanical skill, yeah ofc, they spend their time developing not playing but I don't think the bars gotten so low that a lead combat dev not understanding basic combat is acceptable.

[@panzer00]

Developers need to play the games they work on.

[@NobodyAsked-p5p]

@@panzer00 I agree, if you don't play your own game you cannot sympathise with your players and it shows a lack of passion. ESO is clearly not a passion project. Actually, I'm pretty annoyed in general that MMOs I play have had their profits used for other games instead of being invested into the game. It's happened with XIV, Destiny and clearly with ESO too. Path of Exile 2 is looking real appealing right now, seems to be a lot of passion behind the project.

[@IBeTehNinja]

Roll dodges 4 times before even fighting anyone, has zero stam, walks into 5 people, spams light attack, doesnt use potion, dies, "it ok we'll get em next time" and thats the lead combat dev for pvp. Like bruh

[@StaryBrudnyLis187]

Yeah you can be bad at combat but you should know the damn mechanics as a pvp dev

[@merpins]

I got banned on the forums for constructive criticism. The devs are not open to constructive criticism. They want an echo chamber that pats them on the back endlessly. That's it.

[@wisherevenshade4059]

lolol I was perma-banned by gina-bruno on the forums 8 years ago for posting that ZoS is a bad company because they dont listen to the community and push through stupid changes that make no sense and make long time players unhappy. Not a single lick has changed and I have yet again been vindicated.

[@_invinciScribe_24]

I heard this guy get banned from playing Eso. Just because he said that staff should be changed in Eso. 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@_invinciScribe_24]

It’s actually ridiculous at this point. Y’all meant to take criticism that’s one of the whole ideas of games it’s been like that for years you take it as inspiration than do something about it other gaming companies do why can’t Zos smh?🤦🏾‍♀️

[@dragonriderabens9761]

this exactly this IDK if the genuinely do not understand that constructive criticism is negative or if the are genuinely so damn inept that they think it somehow has to be positive either way, the only think keeping ESO afloat at this point is loot box addicted whales

[@DrizztRPG]

Be advise that, everything you say ingame is heavily curated now, speak your mind outside of game ( discord, youtube..) or you will be banned. They are using AI and incompetent workers to review your 'chat', even a simple 'funny' word can get you deleted for good.

[@richrodz711]

ESO just isn’t the same. But at the same time it never changes. 😂

[@DrizztRPG]

wise words of a wise man who is also a poet!

[@Ho0pxr]

It was really embarrassing. Some comments were wild. But most were constructive, and they were being deleted in mass. After their embarrassing showing ZOS proceeded to gaslight us. We don't need Brian wheeler to be React Faster, Malcolm, Adam lad, The Gessner. But he lacked fundamental understandings that should be worrying for a lead combat designer.

[@PurrfectMotivation]

They ban anything that upsets them. Zos is killing there own game it’s hilarious

[@turtle-bot3049]

"dont have to be sweats, but at least be knowledgeable and receptive to feedback". Thats basically the gist of the thread. Brian showed on stream that he's not that knowledgeable about combat (which is fine for a player or a dev not involved with combat at all, but it's not fine for someone who has control and final say (at least at the team level) over combat changes that are being made to the game) and zos as a company has proven countless times now to be very non-receptive when it comes to feedback.

[@josephpugh1331]

The lead combat dev did not understand combat

[@salinaember9527]

you and most top eso content creators left us all alone so yes expect the dark ages of ridicule

[@ESO_PRIME]

Love this comment!

[@DrizztRPG]

well said!

[@Ho0pxr]

@@salinaember9527 Yes!!!

[@teebowganx]

If ZOS had a PR expert on staff they'd have made a whole event not just out of the stream but done a build up to it. They could have made it, "Hey, our lead combat dev is going into BGs live. ESOFam! What classes do you want to see him running? What should his build be? What skills should he be running?" THe forums would have LIT UP with suggerstions and PvP theorycrafting for him. This way the ESO PvP community gets engaged with ZOS and the entire ESO community can LEARN from the PvP experts as to why they make the choices they make in their builds. They should have done this on the forums at the beginning of the PTS cycle (and advertised it in game) so that by the time there's only 2 weeks left until the new patch drops, Brian knows what he's running and has two weeks to practice with it. Same with Sypher. Then BG day comes and Brian is running what the PvP community thinks he should be running and he can joke on stream about only having a couple of weeks to try it out, thanking the ESO PvP community for all their help with his build. THIS is how you put on a PR-friendly live event that fosters community engagement. Want more tips ZOS? DM me.

[@DrizztRPG]

some say that he contacted his buddy xynode, to get one of those pve'hive mind creations of a "sort of pvp build - but not really" Those builds are usually called "The Unkillable Build!".. sure buddy, the unkillable and it play itself too, you just stand there and watch😉

[@awilddevereaux]

This is one of the most insightful takes I've seen around this whole thing

[@StarOfElyon]

They said, "No one must ever see this" and sent the stream footage to that warehouse at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[@lexicon2792]

"Top men" will be looking into it, so don't worry.

[@DrizztRPG]

run! hide! they will forget just delete it.

[@claudiomorenopohl6836]

Bro... He didn't even know that heavy attacks restore resources...

[@Magplar]

typical gas lighting by zenimax lol, "our devs range in skill to represent all players - not just god tier ones" LMAO. OUR FAULT for expecting the LEAD COMBAT DEVELOPER to at least be somewhat familiar with the game he gets paid to design. nobody expected ANYONE to be "god tier". this company deserves all the crap it gets

[@zenwilds2911]

I play ESO for the housing and know heavy attacks replenish resources. Not to roll dodge a bunch of times because RIP stamina. He was beyond bad. Someone who has played ESO for 20 hours would know that much.

[@ChaddeusThaddeus]

These were my main takeaways >he didn't know heavy attacking restored resources >hes playing a healbot tank that neither healed nor tanked >he didn't know that channels get interrupted by bash >couldn't light attack weave Do I care if he's good at pvp? No. do I expect him to know basic combat mechanics and know how to setup a bar and at the very least a build that makes sense? Yes. I've never played a healbot tank in my life (or even eso for the past two years) but I guarantee if you give me a list of sets and skills and a blindfold id be able to slap something together better. Also if you put any pve main that has never touched pvp on a heal tank build and tell them what skills to hit theyd blow him out of the water.

[@JiubLeRepentiYT]

It's funny to see how the devs' comments only focus on how we have to ensure their safe space, instead of considering the criticism. Just take action and listen to what the community says. Maybe you'll get more positive feedback.

[@AlexanderKeith-kk9jf]

I don't expect a developer who spends 8 hours a day working on the game to be good at it. I wouldn't play the game much either if I did that. But what I expect is a developer who can walk in dressed for the job. Run a somewhat meta build and do your best. Don't show up in full tank gear with Oakensoul.

[@mjlee8013]

I do expect them to do it during these 8 hours. They are well paid for fuck sake. How you can do changes in anything if you don't understand the basis???

[@dragonriderabens9761]

@@mjlee8013 at least know the most basics of the game like heavy attacks restore resources! if you don't even know that I personally don't expect the lead to do all the QA testing and therefore be a master of the game hell, I don't even necessarily expect the best QA person to be that good, because their job isn't play the game optimally, it's to QA test and find bugs

[@paulc5389]

I wouldn't dream of hiring a developer that didn't also enjoy playing the game. That's like asking a vegan chef to cook you a steak.

[@funkydunkas101]

The funny thing is that he wasn’t full tank

[@jokeassasin7733]

@@mjlee8013you question here, is literally what got my ban on the forums.

[@ImPoStier]

It’s not that he isn’t a god he doesn’t know the basics, it’s like it’s his first day playing, he doesn’t understand the game, what he says doesn’t make any sense, his choices and reasons doesn’t make any sense, he lacks understanding of the core game mechanics, this explain so much, he probably made his build with a spreadsheet

[@naplzt4k]

he chose bad sets, bad skills, played and moved like a total amateur and didn't even understand basic resource management...the lead combat dev should at least undeestand some of those things

[@heteroGMRVet]

This is why they needed someone like Mr cheeks in the dev team someone who actually live streams actually play(ed) the game

[@_invinciScribe_24]

Nah fr 💯👍🏾

[@DrizztRPG]

say, they need those 'cheeks'🙃

[@ChaddeusThaddeus]

@heteroGMRVet that's the reason they would never hire anybody like that, he'd make the middle management look bad

[@BansheeKing22]

Blizzard did that and they ended up with toxic ion. No thanks. Streamers are not important.

[@qwp1026]

The stream just didn't felt genuine and was blatantly lackluster. There isn't any passion left in this project.

[@termination09]

Can definitely be seen in literally every aspect. Even crown store items are constant re-skins or just re releases of old items. So sad to see, the content feels so minimal and uninspiring for years (everything except adding arcanist)

[@afalk1024]

"Steps to improve communication" how many years have they been saying this now? 🤣This game will never truly improve unless these soft devs are fired and competent ones who care about all aspects of the game are brought in.

[@DrizztRPG]

Question: how to improve on something which game is lacking? those who designed 'solid' base of this game are long gone.

[@ACyoutube209]

It wasn’t that they were bad. Anyone who plays pvp understands there are massive skill gaps from great players to trash ones. But for the person in charge of pvp to not even understand or know that you can heavy attack for rss is concerning. The balance patches for meta for pvp has been horrendous since update 34. Just explains why the game is dying the way it is.

[@DrizztRPG]

Isn't they just change things for the sake of a 'change' solely and to keep players in a one big 'grind' for items 24/7? Its funny if you think about that, and it works every time.

[@TheExtended]

There is obviously a need to do some PR work. I hear Rich Lambert's wife, Terri, is looking for a new gig. Zenimax should give her a call.🤣

[@ESO_PRIME]

Her cry meme’s will live on forever!🤣

[@skulpturostone4621]

Weh-weh

[@MikeBeltMikeBelt]

all pvpers should have mass quit when she did the "wah"

[@Mr-qt4xr]

Bro I literally quit the game coz of that stream and his weird tantrum lmao that guy and his wife give me the creeps 🤣

[@DrizztRPG]

Terri: "Weh-weh😭🤣.. they are working on it😜..THEY ARE WORKING ON IT🤥" Rich: "sure they are.. honey but why it takes so damn long eh?"🤨

[@BIGHEADCODE]

I think you might’ve talked over the heavy attack part. But the fact that he didn’t know heavy attacks refill resources and died from no resources is bad for the lead combat designer.

[@MagnumEatsPie]

I think it is important to articulate that the most concerning part of evaluating the reaction to the stream is not that he wasnt skilled. After the first match he wanted utility and removed sweeps for javelin. This seems smart. But the match after puts back on sweeps for healing purposes... this is not wrong decision from a skill issue, but problematic on many knowledge factors of core systems in the game: He went back to having effectively 2 spammables because oakensoul heavy is your spammable and that loses precious barspace for the one thing oakensoul benefits you for so doesnt understand the gear he is wearing. From a needed healing standpoint even if he didnt mess up with 2 spammables, he either forgot or doesnt understand what battle spirit is and how it effects healing. For sweeps in particular that means he didnt realize how insignificant it's healing portion is because it heals on damage done... meaning it's tooltip takes a nerf to damage done while battle spirit active and also player mitigation before you even get a small damage number and after that then the amount it heals is also cut by battle spirit again! This means to put sweeps back on his bar not looking at skill or build, but on whether he understood core mechanics of battle spirit (the thing that most governs balance of pvp) shows that as a combat balancer he does not understand how combat spirit effects the skills he is balancing. This is just one example that i think most illustrates the problems seen of the dissonance of his job title and what was seen in the livestream.

[@skulpturostone4621]

And by the way, did he even run mag morph or stam one?

[@MagnumEatsPie]

Iit looked to be mag (double axe icon not single)

[@skulpturostone4621]

@@MagnumEatsPieeither way, in PvP they heal basically same. Stam heals for zero, mag heals for close to zero.

[@Daslikdj]

I think at the end of the day/ Why don't have have a QA lead like skinny cheeks that can help out the dev team with polish? It's all boiling down to Polish/

[@Daslikdj]

They can shell out 10s of thousands of dollars to live streams but cant contract someone from the community QA?

[@DrizztRPG]

When 'transparency is off' they can get away with almost anything.

[@Allstar-tk4pb]

Seeing Brian Wheelchair play confirmed everything we always thought. He knows nothing and completely out of touch with the player base. It all makes sense now why PvP is in a such a bad place.

[@dragonriderabens9761]

PvE too

[@irishned6464]

According to Steam Charts, ESO concurrent players over the past 30 days is just under 10k, the last time they were this low was March of 2018, nearly 7 years ago.

[@summerbrez]

"we want to see pvpers of all levels be welcomed" mfs when you get into 2 team bg where one team have decent players with good sets and hp and the other team is clueless 17k hp whatever gear casuals 😂 that'll definitely help casuals get into pvp lmao if you want balance zos then bring back 3 teams at least 2 teams is the most unbalanced BGs I've ever seen "casual" 8v8 has more chances to be more balanced but it's usually not the case either

[@krieg_guardsman9548]

The stream showed why pvp is in the state its in

[@dragonriderabens9761]

this went a long way to explaining why ESO is in the state it is that's really it

[@DrizztRPG]

long way with short end, thankfully some players still have 'open minds' and they will not be easily misguided by this company.

[@traplord7668]

Eman dropped a video explaining, and showcasing the situation. Seeing the lead PvP decision maker doesn’t even have a basic understanding about combat mechanics, that’s why people are upset. Not because he’s not sweaty.

[@GodsFirmament]

I was emp in NA main 3 times but quit eso almost 2 years ago. Literally every time I made a good build it got nerfed. All my time and resources wasted. And so many of my friends quit playing that it was just the same people in pvp, over and over. Boring.

[@dr6543]

Yep , it’s not good to play and having fun then they nerf your build just because people crying. They even nerf emp at last keep you should be stronger not weaker

[@samuraichicken2315]

The problem with getting SypherPK is that millions more people now know ESO is a trash game in its current state. After the video I had zero expectations that the game is going to get any better. Zero.

[@leetrisk]

i quit this game over a month ago at level 2000, the players are either casual or elitist, theres hardly any in between, pvp sucks and everyone runs the same cheesey stuff, the lack of any cool rewards such as mounts for doing casual overworld content is also just terrible, they have like 100+ mounts from the store, but a handful u can get ingame, and only 1 or 2 of those are reasonable to earn- the rest are literally endgame challenges which gl finding a team that will help you learn how to do all the hard stuff and give you a chance to finish a run edit: call it skill issue, but i have done most the content, i was an avid PVPer for the last few months of the game, and having obvious classes which destroy the rest with much less effort put into them was just stupid, i got bored of everyone just being the same thing, and how much of cry babers endgame pve-ers are- i got kicked from vAS (pretty easy content) for telling someone to stop complaining about everyone else- when that specific player was the only person who died more than anyone, i literally hadnt died at all, and neither did a handful of the rest of the group- the guy i told to shut up wasnt even the group leader

[@DrizztRPG]

your profile pic is fire tho💥

[@leetrisk]

@@DrizztRPG thanks lol, i used bing's AI art gen TBH, i have a deviant art full of elderscrolls / khajiit art it generated (more detailed than my profile pic) but yea, khajiit is my go to race for elder scrolls games 😁

[@DrizztRPG]

@@leetrisk Nice!

[@thenoobwalk5768]

I’ve been saying this for years, they have no clue how to play their own game and it took them almost a decade to fix the servers and to add spell crafting. They mentioned spell crafting back when this game was released in patch 1.6 and was just recently implemented. But God forbid there is an issue with the crown store, any issue that has ever occurred with the crown store gets fixed ASAP but everything else gets put on the back burner. Them deleting criticism also goes back to the beginning. ESO has an amazing combat system for an MMO however it’s potential held back by terrible incompetent lazy developers. Nefas you are being too lenient, any lead PvP developer should be “good” at the game no exceptions.

[@samuraichicken2315]

When did the servers get fixed?

[@thenoobwalk5768]

@ lmao Exactly!They did finally get around to improving the servers awhile back but the servers have definitely gotten worse since then

[@kgm4556]

New BG’s suck. Imo, most matches especially the Deathmatch, has enemies locked at their spawn, or you at yours if your team suck. The small maps are too small, big ones are ok. The 2 teams also removes the 1-2 win thing, which is something I agree with in principle, but will disincentivize people from doing their dailies, reducing the amount of active BGers. Also, the old maps were cool. Add the new ones, why get rid of the old ones.

[@thejusticecrusade]

In my opinion Brian Wheeler not stepping up after 10 years of ESO is only the tip of the iceberg. The developers really need to step up their game and not make excuses about bad performance and bad decisions. The community speaks and they need to listen. No excuses!

[@Jannah_2k]

Anyone else uses the Insightful on ESO forums as a form to give "Clown award" since there is no such there? Wish there was.

[@Chronic_Gainz]

Not surprised that the LCD of ESO doesn’t know how to combat works. lol The Devs don’t even play their own game and it’s evident in the balancing over the years.

[@kilnerdyne]

Nothing suprising here at all unfortunately. The reason they always play the victim card isn't just to confuscate the situation, draw sympathy & diffuse their responsibility; it's part of a long-term general strategy of censorship and intentional disregard of community feedback. This strategy of ignoring their community has worked incredibly well because the game is designed to have a huge turnover in playerbase within a short amount of time. Promise change, dissenters move on to another game, ban anyone still left complaining, repeat the cycle. The ESO front-facing team that we have interacted with over the years, the community managers, the social media team, the 'lead designers'; these are merely shields to defend against criticism of the game between major content releases like Chapters or DLCs. That's why livestream events like this bomb so hard, it highlights all their issues (e.g technical game issues, community communication, vindictive narcissism) in one fell swoop.

[@DS-lk3tx]

Bad times come when the farm is passed down to a son who didnt care to know how to maintain it. Or some shit. 😂

[@RobertMalachowski]

The devs acting like they’ve never held a controller or seen color tv before has pissed me off for a long time, but the combat dev moving like a game journalist is on another level. This is his job, wtf does he do?

[@EbonEden]

This. If he doesn’t even know the fundamentals of the pvp combat he is in charge of, wtf does he get paid to do? This is his job. His *job*. This is the man in charge of pvp changes. He was playing with sets he nerfed himself, and forgot.

[@PainInTheAxe]

Ill do the next PVP Bethesda Live Take over, we'll make that shit lit dog

[@DrizztRPG]

I believe that if they would actually take a second and 'think about it' they would have invite current pvp content creators like you @PainInTheAxe and stream would be alot better. There is plenty of great, inspiring, entertaining players / content creators who stream eso pvp 'daily'. They know 'what's up' and how good or bad pvp works - maybe that's the problem? You see to much everyday ingame, you know to much, you will maybe 'speak up' about the things they don't want to have on a 'live stream'. Look at Fengrush, guy had so much passion for this game, he also had passion for pvp player base, and what they've done to him? They've ignored him for years, they've dispose him and they don't even acknowledge his existence at this point. Look at Sypher, the only 'former eso player' that actually succeeded, and mainly cos he actually left eso to pursue a more profitable game and thats a fact. (not a better game just more profitable). They know that he is easy to control, he will say anything 'they' want to hear. Look behind the fake smiles to see a true faces. pvp really teaches you how to fight for your rights, even against the odds. Don't stop streaming brother, I will stand by your side ( although i play only on DC side ) If you like my comment, don't forget to sub to my channel🙃Im already subbed to yours🙌

[@mrwilliams1187]

....no just...no, not worth it.

[@Ed-ealmighty]

Yeah being banned for showing up and showing out just to make a statement we already know isn't worth it 😆

[@DrizztRPG]

Nefi delete coments here faster than zos ingame lol

[@aurorathekitty7854]

I uninstalled ESO on my pc about 3 weeks ago and i don't think I'm gonna pick it back up for awhile. Any good recommendations for a MMO?

[@theimpureone4080]

New World or Throne of Liberty

[@XxPLoSiVeZ]

Instead of it being competitive it feels like the ole days of stomping noobs in a Call of Duty lobby now

[@DeathMetalTroll]

Sweeps healing buff coming next patch.

[@IntelligentFlame]

Nothing can save the sorry excuse for a spammable that sweeps is in PvP lmao. Major evasion on most builds makes it the worst spammable to equip rn

[@naplzt4k]

​@@IntelligentFlamepretty sure it was a joke because he used it for heals

[@skulpturostone4621]

Did he even use mag version?

[@DrizztRPG]

@@skulpturostone4621 😅at this point, bet it was stam

[@ZeroSum-x1j]

of all the pvp mmos i have played over the last 20 plus years, ESO action combat system is the best out there, imho; what destroys this game is the overall incompetence of the developers, and their fragile egos. please Microsoft/Bethesda, save this game and CLEAN HOUSE!

[@xyourdeus4972]

I haven't played eso in a bit, but I think if your dev team has people that don't even know how heavy attacks work, that is a major problem. Not even just talking about skill level, heavy attacks are something you should know as of the TUTORIAL.

[@TheRealDunkirk]

I mean, I guess they've brought it on themselves for bringing it up, but the $2B figure means absolutely NOTHING unless they ALSO comment on how much it's COST them to realize that revenue. They might have a $2 profit margin. We have no idea.

[@daroniousmaximus]

So they've also been trying to get non PvP'ers like me to do things in PvP in order to get rewards. Sooo Im fine with it, but the problem is, it doesnt work.... I joined said BG's to get the quick reward they were offering.... what happened was half of the 8 people just sit in spawn after getting killed a couple of times just waiting for the 15 minute round to be over. On the other dominating team (which still somehow always happens even in solo q), purposely extending the round not playing the objective in order to get their kll count up. It's just a nightmare. BTW, I still try when I go in at least even if I die a million times.

[@alexduke1999]

Last actual pvp update was when they added questing towns as a cyrodiil objective. Before that they removed doors from resources and removed ability to destroy keep roofs. Before that, imperial city.

[@twocatsyelling723]

ESO is just a mess anymore. Has some of the worst chuckleheads I've ever encountered in a MMO (and I've encountered many over 20 years). Its white knights are as bad as any I ever encountered in the FF14 community. They spin apologist excuses for some pretty awful stuff - solely because "it's ESO" and must be defended. Once upon a time, ESO had one of the better communities I'd ever been part of in a MMO. I used to rave to people about it, encouraging friends to check it out. This was back before One Tamriel ,and on up 'til around Elweyr (because dragons!), when people started to realize it had really turned around since its launch. The community started going steadily downhill after that. Now it's a trainwreck I actively recommend they stay away from. No way I could recommend this mess to anyone in good faith anymore.

[@DrizztRPG]

Right now players can't even speak ingame like normal adult people, this game company infiltrate every messages you sent now. They also ban players for ridiculous reasons..( one stupid word and you are out) very disappointing.

[@joyboy6067]

Everytime someone ask me why i quit this game i always forgot why,my fondness memory of this game was guild drama.Now after reading your comment,while not fully it shed somelight on my memory. One tamriel update,there is some thing from this update that almost makes me quit,still cant remember exactly what,but at that momment i felt like its gonna be worst in the future,but in the end i still push thru (i was told that im just salty/over thinking it but i am laughing so hard seeing how it went right now) The Community, its weird that there are many degenerate all over MMO,but ESO the only MMO where i ve got lectured and threatened like a little kid,its funny at first but after multiple times it becomes weird especially over simple thing,like chill out gramps. White knight, oh boy,the amounts of time i've beg even willing to pay for items set drop on raid just to be ignore and put aside because some woman character asking for the same one is thru the roof eventough the i contributed more. Still forget what the final straw that makes me quit not so long after elsweir,but the last time ive tried to log in to see whats up i forgot my password and said fuck it,this game aint worth my time anyway

[@DrizztRPG]

@@joyboy6067 They are killing open mind's for a reason, they don't want you to disagree when they feed you with fruitless nothingness, you must eat it and be happy about it. But they will fail at it, ignorance, passiveness are their biggest enemy. And don't forget about those 'fake smiles' they always wear, only to force you to buy another 'ugly' digital item.

[@brianherrera1390]

It SHOULD CLEARLY BE A BIG DEAL. it's the LEAD DESIGNER FOR COMBAT...... if it doesn't to you. It's just because you decided to ignore it.

[@deustauries]

There's no defending that developer. He didn't even know several core mechanics of the game. Has nothing to do with his skills.

[@DrizztRPG]

@Arttea deleted her noisy comment faster than our Beloved Gaming Company deleted the evidence of "ESO Battlegrounds Brawl" 😂

[@DavidAppear]

fr tho, she did😆

[@SauronGorthaur01]

Lmao I responded to her aswell and tried to look for my comment. So this is what it takes for her to delete her shit. Lmao

[@DrizztRPG]

@@SauronGorthaur01 I was polite and open to talk to her. However it seems that constructive and polite conversation, logical thinking, those are the things Arttea doesnt get, she is soely focused on getting recognition for her channel. I knew from the start that she is gaslighting here, her comment was full of microagression. At the end she did what cowards do, she 'deleted the evidence' of a failure. She is a "eso team member", that means she is 'deep' inside their agenda.

[@seymourkrelborn207]

If the players who aren't being paid can spend enough time in the game to understand how the game works and play it well, then the paid developers should be capable of AT LEAST that much. Period.

[@eviejameson4706]

I'm really disappointed in your take on the BG situation. You said the developers don't have to be sweaty, they just have to be "knowledgeable and receptive to feedback." Brian and Zos were neither. He didn't even know to heavy attack to get resources back (this caused his death several times) and he is the lead combat designer. Their answer to the outrage was incredibly weak and I don't understand why you, of all people, would defend them on this when you've lost interest in the game due to bad design and maintenance choices. I don't even PVP and this boiled my blood. Edit: Oh yeah, the other thing you should know is Zos mods deleted more comments than they allowed on the livestream. That should tell you what it was like.

[@DrizztRPG]

I will defend @NefasQS on that matter, he actually couldn't saw the stream because it was removed from official bethesda twich by them (they are killing the evidence of it now after the huge backlash) Mind that @NefasQS is also a 'eso team member' so he have to watch his word and jugment on the topic, I don't blame him at all. I have contacted every major eso content creator about it, and only @NefasQS was bold enough to answer it and make a video about it. Some content creators like @Arttea were even try to make fun of my 'question about the live stream', she is deep in zos pocket by now. Thanks to @NefasQS we got a open space for our gaming community to have a conversation on the subject matter atleast. With all that said I also agree with your comment, you understand this situation perfectly @eviejameson4706🙌

[@CallMeElwis94]

All they had to do, was to ask people doing PvP, be it in Cyro or BG, and this could've been avoided. Heck, even invite them and play+talk together! But did they did that? No, they always know better. And they got what was coming.

[@DrizztRPG]

Yeah! Exactly, I don't get it. We players want best for this game! Actually, this small live event could've bring more people to pvp and make it fun. Nah but 'they' wanted to run around in 'almost' dead silence..

[@DrizztRPG]

SypherPK face was like 'wtf is going on'

[@ski364]

Game becomes unplayable randomly after updates. 5fps, before I was getting a solid 60fps (my monitor doesnt go higher) with max settings. No system updates, no drivers change, just an eso update. Uninstall and reinstall of EVERYTHING still broken. This hapens on a semi-regular basis. I have lost confidence in the devs. Also the fourm sign up links are broken and circular.

[@BeeBeeBeeLol]

Kinda disappointing and saddening to see how far ESO is falling. MMO's truly are struggling from poor management and just going full corporate and not listening to their players over the compiling issues plaguing their games.

[@mrwilliams1187]

You are in for a rude awakening trying to play BGs and potentially PvP altogether.

[@FuryOfTyphon]

You were too busy yapping to listen to JTKs main point.. That Brian didn't even understand how to heavy attack to return his resources, or even use a potion. But your comment sections got it covered.

[@DrizztRPG]

can't blame your overall frustration but like 'don't kill the messenger' peace brother!

[@alonzoaoz1599]

the biggest thing that stuck out to me was not knowing that heavy attacks restore resources, to me that says alot not just about his PVP knowledge but that he probably hasn't even engaged in combat much at all. How can someone who doesn't understand the games core systems make good decisions for the game?

[@K1Crawford]

Too many excuses instead of taking accountability If you're a dev and/or a lead, in your specific area and you're not good at your job..... either keep quiet and improve or quit. Players are what keep your payroll coming in

[@DrizztRPG]

few crown crates later..everything will be forgotten, or so they think.

[@Marchvz]

I’m so upset with the change they did to seals of endeavor, they increases task and decreased value from 15 to 10 to daily’s, but no one care or commented here or in game 😢. Also mount reward from golden pursuits is ridiculous.. 😢

[@travismiller1491]

And the AMOUNT you have to do for potentially the g*yest mount in the game is unreal

[@Marchvz]

@ feels like a job

[@ChibiCosmos]

Golden pursuit should be unique achievements like you see in content journal. Not endeavors 2.0

[@fireraid9173]

These are people who refuse to put any effort into running the game, then plug their ears and fight against criticism. I see that meeting you had with them after ue35 achieved absolutely nothing, sorry you wasted your time, we all feel like we did. The game will continue to decline into a sad whimper and none of them will care to listen when it does eventually get shut down.

[@ESO_PRIME]

Imagine playing PvP for 10 solid years, all the stupid idiotic changes that have made PvP worse (unkillable tanks, necro shield bash builds, endless healing outside of group, etc) & then seeing the lead combat designer not even know how to light attack for resources, have a horrible build, and using useless skills for PvP. It’s quit frankly super insulting to all of us in ESO who have been put in thousands of hours and frustration. Frustration from poor Zenimax choices & Mr. Wheeler is the head combat designer who cannot even play his own game. It’s a obvious sign ZOS could care less about the PvP community & YES there are a ton of us playing the game in PvP, I’d say twice as much PvP players than trial players and this is how we’re treated. The PvP exodus is real now & we’re demanding a new PvP developer lead or getting someone who can show ZOS (like Feng Rush or Sekaar) what we need in PvP. I have over 20k PvP hours in this game & after this stream it’s showed me why so much frustration has been brewing in the PvP community. First time ever canceling my ESO plus & moving onto another mmo PvP game that actually listens to it’s community without some silly slogan, “ESO fam represent “ ☠️

[@radicalradaghast7772]

I’m not a PvPer ima 4 man dungeoneer but a combat dev not knowing the mechs really solidifies that the people making the game don’t know the game, therefore how could they know what players actually want? I love the trials and dungeons but only getting 2 a year and the fact that they have made the achievements so easy to get, I got them all done the first week and had nothing left to play in the game. I’m cp2100 and know what I’m doing but it just isn’t fun when the content is so easy i have no reason to return the next day and keep practicing….it took months to get unchained and coral caretaker, the two newest ones were so easy i can’t even remember the titles lol. Just feels bad man I want to wanna play the game but as of now there’s just no reason to when the content just isn’t what it used to be.

[@Mashiro_1024]

Devs never play the game

[@gordonlaplante364]

the dude didnt know how to regain resources with a heavy atk.

[@MarkHoover-dv7mf]

I've given very good reward changes for cyro on the forums and they don't care either. They either don't care or corporate says no to putting efforts to fix issues

[@irishned6464]

They tossed the old BG maps and added smaller ones, so now its just one team beating the ever loving snot out of the less experienced players, spawn camping is much more common now snd BG's have become less accessible than ever, also half the time the BG doesn't even fill. To me its worse than the previous iteration in almost every way accept for the transmute rewards, those are actually decent. This was a major flop, if they had just added the transmutes and left it the way it was no one even would be complaining. Everyone in the PvP community told them this new BG system would be terrible, there were good suggestions made and solutions thought through and presented to them via forums, reviews etc. but did they listen? No. People have had enough of warning zos then being ignored, this latest disaster is 100% on them, easily predictable, easily avoidable but they are stuck in an echo chamber unwilling or unable to face reality. Sad but true.

[@jokeassasin7733]

But, it’s his first day.

[@EgaoKage]

Everyone is meme-ing that Brian didn't seem to know that heavy attacks restore resources; apparently based on things he was both saying and doing in the live-stream. Also, apparently he had on Oakensoul in addition to two active five-piece sets and a full monster set. How's that work!? I assume his client just has Dev-level access that lets him put on gear chosen from a list and he didn't catch the fact that no player (who isn't using the Armory exploit) would be capable of doing the same. I could have misunderstood this though. But being oblivious to the player-experience is more the issue here, imo. Also, Templars don't run Oakensoul, because the class is so dependent on filling both bars. 23:38 He was light attacking though; just not landing many.

[@DrizztRPG]

fact check - he wasn't doing anything pvp related (running around clueless with 0 awareness is not playing) he is just a 'nice guy' nothing more . They can cover this incompetent mess all they want, it will not vanish. Imagine the same stream for 'pve' player base when he would have fail again and again in trial or dungeon mechanic he personally designed it. Preposterous!

[@EgaoKage]

@@DrizztRPG Games like ESO have a LOT of Devs. We don't know exactly what it is he does. In many cases Devs only work directly on certain parts of a given game-feature, and have only a basic grasp of the whole. I think his fancy title led people to have expectations of him that were ultimately baseless. Watching the stream myself, as a Templar main, I more-just wished I could give him some basic advice; not get mad at him for not knowing.

[@braxen3937]

Is the armoury exploit something new or has it been around since they added the armoury stations?

[@DrizztRPG]

@@EgaoKage There is a movie with Jim Carrey called "Fun with Dick and Jane" (2005). In that movie there is a great scene "Spinning Fraud Scene", watching it I felt bad for Jim Carrey's character because he was exploited by his superiors. His boss and superiors forced him to "appear live on TV", the show's host and guests ridiculed him, hurled accusations at him about the financial misdeeds of the company he worked for, and he wasn't know what to say, he just wasn't know anyhting about it. all eyes were focused on this poor guy, people criticized him for the incompetence of the company and In reality he was innocent. Meanwhile his evil boss had plenty of time to cover up the company's fraud and actually steal piles of money. While watching battlegrounds live stream I felt somewhat bad for Brian too, this whole event felt 'forced' to me.

[@EgaoKage]

@@braxen3937 I'm not 100% sure when it first cropped up. But there was evidence that players had learned of it around u42; maybe as early as u41. It's not fixed yet. On the rare occasion that CMX actually works in a 1v1 PvP encounter, you can sometimes see 3 separate 5-piece procs hitting you, even though only one attacker is listed. ZOS is definitely aware of this exploit though. So anyone still using it is playing with fire! And I hope they do push their luck too far and get banned. Fuck em!

[@VladimirKrshunov]

problems were: 1) it was painful to watch (it's was not just bad - it was ... so bad that everyone could've seen that they just doing the job they don't even wanna do 1st place) 2) they got zero prepared small talk so it was even painful to listen (so combined with 1st - all stream was prepared poorly) 3) 1/2 or 2/3 of all matches was bugged and they can't even start the content that they have to present problem is they not ashamed of such low quality for everything they do

[@jokeassasin7733]

The video is still on Syperpks account

[@ZoltarWOT]

I don't understand why there is a drama about a dead video game.

[@1Apep1]

They should make streams with actual top players (PVP and PVE) and let them explain what they are doing, how their builds work and how to learn. Of course, they should pick people who are able to talk in front of a camera and are somewhat likeable, but they don't have to be fully media trained for a Twitch stream. Show the community what peak performance in the game looks like. Give new players something to strive for and casual players someone to look up to. Endgame should not seem like some unreachable Daedric realm for large parts of the community. "We want to show that you can jump into PVP as a casual player" is a nice idea in theory, but it will not get you interesting content. In fact, most people know that you can do that, but they don't want to, because they expect to get stomped on, because that is what happens in the beginning. If you show them how even the big combat boss gets clobbered, they don't really expect that to ever get better. How about showing them that you can actually be good at the game instead?

[@filidhdeklend893]

Just a reminder that the people who made the biggest stink about Gatekeeping are the ones trying to gatekeep original fans from getting back into these games.

[@cernunnos_lives]

Nobody is perfect. Everyone has to start at a level of understanding somewhere. With that said, you should be receptive to looking at what your audience is suggesting. You have to start somewhere and end up being able to checking out what's being said. It's impressive when you are listening to your fans and improving your work. I would at least start there. I would ask how can we make this better? I would want to make my customers happy.

[@RobertMalachowski]

Start somewhere? That would be a junior level combat dev, not LEAD. Enough of these niceties

[@kevinchang1371]

If ZOS had a history of PvP updates that mostly made sense, I think this would have been less of an issue. The fact that there is a baffling history of outsized course corrections, some good choices, and many awful ones when it comes to PvP balance and implementations is what makes this livestream feel like a smoking gun😒

[@samuraichicken2315]

Most people would have then recognised him as the top level manager who delegates tasks to his more qualified subordinates.

[@DrizztRPG]

The eso pvp history is this: ...we are sorry but pvp data has been removed from the server, please contact our lead combat designer on that matter.

[@stonic5]

The response after was way worse than the stream imo. I played for 8months this year. 2 patch notes worth of reading was enough for me to know my time is not respected and they will remove anything i find fun from the game. I miss 4v4v4 so much but... thats not even in the game anymore. After seeing patches i except this sort of stream. But i didnt expect the blackmail, censorship and gaslighting that came after.

[@trapstargamer1642]

I stepped away from e s o because I kept on destroying my controllers Like my god $79 For d***Controller

[@Jeanmarie-i9x]

I have no clue why you still endorse this CASHGRAB of a game 😂 I used to LOVE this game, even went far enough to buy a few dlcs and arcanist...... My love for the game died when I had to spend almost 200 dollars to get the right cosmetics from a freaking CRATE! Nowadays I play Warframe,an actual good game that cares and doesn't rip you off in half. I'm never going back to ESO.

[@Jeanmarie-i9x]

If you are not smart enough to see the bullshit behind the transactions.... Then oooph boy..... Nothing or no one will change your opinion. I guess people with fat wallets don't mind playing mediocre games as long as they can flaunt how much they spended on a skin 😂

[@siniister710]

I finally full quit eso and uninstalled it. I just have no faith in the direction of that game anymore.

[@samuraichicken2315]

Ditto. No way combat balance is coming back while that clown is in charge.

[@Bella_Nekro]

Just curious, do you guys have a very toxic community on PC like we have on Xbox? Sorry if this is a little long winded but I'd like to know if I did something wrong. I pushed really hard this campaign for empress. I'm fairly new to pvp. I've been playing ESO for a little over a year now but up until October I was very casual only playing in Cyrodiil a couple of hours a week. In oct something finally clicked for me and i was finally able to get kills and hold my own in a 1v1 more often than not. So naturally i started having more fun and playing the game more. I've become a daily player and now i log in 5hrs a day minimum. I decided i wanted to try healing in Gray Host this campaign because our alliance (DC) seems to be light on healers. I grinded so hard to get to #1 on the leaderboards. I finally got empress yesterday. I slept a total of around 5-6 hours in 3 days just to stay on top. By the time i finally got emp I was exhausted but rather than go to sleep I decided to help my alliance take the map. With my buffed ballistas we were able to take keeps very fast. We took the entire map, collected all scrolls and gated both EP and AD. I was making calls and my alliance was following me, backing me up at keeps and outposts. For the first time in days my alliance was getting kills and having fun in zone chat. We held the map for about 6 hours but eventually red and yellow decided to team up to depose. We held out for another 2 hrs but eventually their numbers were too much and we lost the emp circle. This is where things took a bad turn. I was shocked at how many players were blaming me and just being generally toxic to me. They were saying things like "we need a emp who isn't garbage" or "an emp that can actually get kills" etc. Just an honest question, should i not try to push for emp on a healer? I felt like i was doing good. I was keeping my alliance alive with big heals at choke points like pushing through doorways. I saved us from so many bombs with my templar heal ulti. I'd say at least 20 times the enemy had pulled a big group of my allies into a group for a bomb and i would ulti heal and that bomb would result in 0 deaths and my team would collapse on the enemy. I feel like saving 10 lives is just as important as getting 10 kills. Am i wrong here? Should healers avoid chasing emp? Sorry for the long read and thanks to anyone who took the time. ❤️

[@Plight_]

@@Bella_Nekro I quit the game some time ago (Xbox) There are things in life that you can't escape -Death -Taxes -And people's ability to scapegoat their own shortcomings. That's going to happen at some point no matter what game you play and where you play it. Saying "just ignore it" doesn't really help because they already get into your head as soon as you see it. Focus on what you can control and don't sweat what you cannot. Congratulations on emp brother

[@MarkHoover-dv7mf]

I used to be in multiple groups that talked with developers. They almost always said they do something and never did. It would take a year to fix a bug we told them about. It's corporate greed over the community. This made me stop subbing after 2 years into the game.... the new bg system is fun, but it should have been an added on, not complete change

[@Eso_lags]

This was a terrible look all around. Thats why they took it down. People expect the lead combat designer to know some things about the game especially super basic things, or things that a lot of people complain about being OP like rush. And for her to try and hold communication over our heads is pathetic. We have been asking for better communication for years and they always fail at it, year after year. At the end of the day if this was anyone other than the lead combat designer im sure it wouldn't have bothered most people. I mean every single time we see someone from zos, except rich, play the game, it looks like they're a brand new player. But for the lead combat designer to look that way was shocking for a lot of people

[@miketerzis7468]

I couldnt even watch battlegrounds for more than 10 min ... he is so clueless about the game . Same level with the dungeon developers from diablo 4 but the difference that the d4 team came out and apologised . These clowns threaten the eso community about communication with the devs when we all know we dont get any communication anyways .

[@jmbrady1]

Nefas, it doesn't matter how much they incentivize something, if people don't want to play it, they don't want to play it, its as simple as that. PVP is practically mandatory to get gear already don't make people do it anymore

[@ImChurro]

His gameplay reminds me of venom spray spammers

[@Belle75468]

Who's video he's watching? Can someone tell me cuz I can't see the name of the channel or a link

[@braxen3937]

I started playing ESO in January of 2018(6-7 months after Morrowind?) And that dev played like i did the First time I went into a BG without even knowing it was PvP or understanding what the hell I was doing 🤦🏼

[@ryno1808]

Complete utter trash dump off a game.

[@Lord-Juanpa]

Ok, so our PVP Devs are noobs... I mean, that explains why they have taken 10 years trying to balance the game, but it's also a cute approach to the community. To think I could teach them play their own game is funny, but also a bit worrying.

[@nokkprime]

Eso is 100% dog 💩. idk how anyone can still play this trash

[@Hulk_smashh]

They nerfed oakensoul and wonder why 1bar aint allowed in endgame anymore... Zos true gatekeepers