Things to know about the Suzuki V Strom 650 before buying

[@Tripleb6036]

Here is the link to 44Teeth, the cool bike channel I talked about in the video. kzbin.info

[@volt8684]

Be even better if they added mossey to the team

[@timothyangus954]

I have the previous gen model. It has now done 71k miles. In 2018 I rode 43,000 miles around the world two up. No reliability issues, 65mpg, and 260 miles to a tankful. Had it 9 years now and can’t think of anything that will do anything better. Love the V engine, and relatively cheap to service.

[@Tripleb6036]

I have a soft spot for VStroms as I have good memories riding France, Italy and Spain on a 2009 650. I’m considering another to tour over here this year with.

[@TrustyZ900]

Just rode my '22 650 Adventure today about 300 miles. I have 5 bikes, all fairly new, most more powerful. I still favor this bike over all of them, mostly how comfortable and useful this bike is. Super smooth engine, 60 mpg, handles great and with blue spoked wheels and black tank, it looks excellent, no matter what people say. Have a blue Z900RS and the VStrom looks just as cool. Proud to ride one. And BTW, I never felt the engine's power output was boring. Love this VTwin.

[@jackrabbit8703]

I own a 2019 650xt.. It will do 80mph all day...goes over 100 mph for short distances (passing etc). 5'7" and can plant my feet well. Linear power is good for off pavement riding. Yes, its not a rocket, but if you wanted a bullet bike you should buy that. If you want a reliable mid weight adventure bike...this is a good option.

[@falchiherve2024]

I Own a 2018 yellow one.......absolutely no complaints about this v strom.....to me just the best bike i havé ever had !!!

[@Tripleb6036]

I agree, it's a cracking bike and the 3rd Wee Strom I've owned which shows how much I rate them.

[@MrWizardofozzz]

Falachi Hervé I own the 2018 Black 650 Vstrom, but fully equipped it with Givi Knuckle guards, engine/rad guards, skid plate and trekker outback top and side cases(all in black).. I also exchanged the street tires with Heidenau K60 scout tires and use it mainly for gravel and hard packed dirt.. It's all about what you do with it and so far this is also the best bike I have ever owned for what I do..

[@Arltratlo]

me too.... went down to Nice in France, passed thru the high passes in the Alpes and the French Atlantic coast... its a good travel bike, full cases all around from Givi, i got mine from the dealer with an exterior package, worth 1000€, for the regular prize... motorguard, main stand and tank bag and aluminum chain guard, i skipped the tank bag for a bigger windshield and the chain guard from my old bike, also for my heat grips.. its a pretty good travel bike, i owned the 2014 before... drove me well thru Scotland and Northern Europe, my present thru 10 countries from the North to the South Europe, even Italy... and i had 3.6l/100km in the Alpes, not bad, and on the German Autobahn 12l/100km.... lol

[@problemslayer3538]

Anyone have issues with the spokes ?

[@aapddd]

I was very impressed with this bike. Great little engine. Smooth and eager. Not a crazy amount of power but it’s no slouch either. I appreciate the fact that you can accelerate full power without having to worry about losing traction or popping a wheelie. It gives a certain amount of confidence.

[@Tripleb6036]

Agreed.

[@richardrichard5409]

Best bike I've owned over 40 years and 50 plus bikes 😎

[@victorherrero4790]

My second bike, I started with a Vstrom 250...and after year and a half I sold It and I bought a Vstrom 650. Awesome bike, smooth and reliable engine, great value, easy to ride. The flaws: 1. No Led Headlight 2. No Cruise Control 3. No ABS switch. Still the best overall medium size bike.

[@lenbonyeau7835]

I've owned one since 2005, still have it, out of all the bikes I had, this is the best bike I have ever owned.

[@jaysee2213]

I've got a 2007 one, I've had loads of bikes but this is by far the best. I've never kept a bike this long but I've had this one for 5 years, bloody brilliant

[@Tripleb6036]

I had a 2009 and loved it. Took it all around Europe. Best rides I ever had.

[@fuglbird]

Basically he says that this is not a sporty engine because it's a good engine.I left at 2:24. I'm looking forward to my test ride next week.

[@Tripleb6036]

Not really but thanks for the 2.24 viewing time.

[@lolevedre]

You don't need to stop for change mods, only release the throtle, then select mode you want.

[@Tripleb6036]

Is that right... Im going to try that and see. Thanks for the tip 👍

[@johnhanson3977]

I agreed jus5 close throttle to change modes on the go

[@Tripleb6036]

@@johnhanson3977 yep I can confirm this is the case on my V Strom 1000 too.

[@kimskyttegaard]

Or just pull the clutch

[@marcjohnson7734]

Most bikes you throttle off pull clutch In....bingo

[@coconuciferanuts339]

My '17 dl650a/xa is a workhorse. Commuter,tourer,shopper.Reliable,economical,low maintenance etc.

[@Tripleb6036]

Mine were too. I rode all over Europe on a 2009 VStrom and it did everything I asked of it.

[@kuladeeluxe]

That was exactly what I think about mine. I'm often gunning it to prove to myself...is this a fast bike? Very seamless, but if you wind it out, it does get out of it's way. I have a feeling it will run forever.

[@buckfiden9913]

Great video on the V-Strom 650. It definitely helped me make my decision. I watched this video a month ago when I was trying to decide between the Versys and the V-Strom. I live in Michigan and test riding a motorcycle in the winter is not really an option, but you can get a great price this time of year. I just got a brand new 2018 DL650XT last week for $6000 usd! Luckily it was 45° (7°C) the day I picked it up, so I was able to ride it home from the dealership. I'm anxious to get out and break it in.. waiting for spring is going to be agony! Until then I'm just going to watch this video on the TV with my helmet on while standing really close so it looks like I'm riding.

[@Tripleb6036]

haha I can picture you now in full gear pretending to ride the bike. Don't forget to make all the sound effects :D Congrats on the new bike, you made the right choice over the Versys.

[@billz410]

I had a Versys. My least-liked bike of all time. V-Storm WAY smoother and more comfortable.

[@jimsnow8004]

Hey Jay welcome to the club! I have 44,000 km on my 2018 so far. Mind the bridgestones off road, but you can take them almost to the edge of the tread on the road no problem. I'm using shinko 705's now, a lot of fun on the gravel and easy ATV trails. I'm in Ontario, similar climate to yours: I recommend OEM heated grips, much easier to install. SW Motek engine guards, skid plate, panniers, Stebel horn.

[@buckfiden9913]

@@jimsnow8004 thanks for the advise Jim! I'll be sure to mind these bridgestones off road until I get some new rubber. And I had no idea that Suzuki has oem heated grips, thanks for the tip.

[@MrBenHaynes]

$6K USD for a newie! Cracking Covid pricing? Whilst the Suzuki OEM heated grips may integrate better, they are (in Australia) THREE TIMES the price of the excellent Oxford brand "Hot Grips". Cheers.

[@brianbolin9089]

You can change the mode of transaction control when moving. You just have to let off the gas and pull in the clutch

[@chucklypps7905]

I have a 2019 650 V Strom XT touring I love it when I stop at a stop sign or a signal light and I want to put my feet down I put them in front of the pegs and just let the bike move up a little bit and the pegs fold up in your feet are in the right place when I get ready to takeoff I left my feet up the pegs go back down no problem!

[@Tripleb6036]

Yeh obviously it's not a major problem. It's not like I'm falling off the bike as I can't get my feet down 😂. They're just slightly in the way. Enjoy you're bike.

[@emzetmz]

This! So I am not the only one doing that! :P

[@jwessonsr7503]

I love the dl650. It's a perfect all around bike. If I had to make a choice to have only 1 bike, it would be the dl650 👍✌️😁

[@MrBenHaynes]

As you said in the video, Best buy is the base model with aluminium barkbuster (covered with "storm" guards) and an aluminium (B&B Offroad products) bash plate. The plastic handguards and lower cowling of the XT model need to be junked as they're useless anyway. Add a centrestand for servicing (wheel removal, chain adjustment/oiling, checking engine oil level), a topbox for lockable/waterproof luggage carrying (when commuting/ road touring) and heated grips (Oxford "Hot Grips") if you ride in temps below 10 degrees Celsius. Sorted!

[@whinstonwhoodle6373]

Pretty sure you can switch the TC any time if you pull the clutch and zero the throttle. Not sure if it’s precluded over a certain speed, but I don’t think it is. I’ll check for sure next time I’m out and update if it is, probably already said by someone else in here anyway.

[@retzevacademy8312]

Thank you very much for a good review. Now I have no doubt that my decision of buying the V Strom 650 soon would be a good decision. Keep safe!

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks Lawrence. You can't go wrong with the Vstrom. Enjoy.

[@thescribba775]

Ive owned the base model for about 2 years and just done 700km plus with ease. Love my vstrom to bits

[@Tripleb6036]

I loved mine too. Well, I had three over the years. The first one took me around Europe.

[@rogerkay8603]

700Km, after 2 years? Just done 750 miles on mine in 2 weeks, did you mean 7000?

[@knifenoob5411]

I Always ride single. This bike is the best all around motorcycle.PERIOD

[@ntdscherer]

I've never heard anyone describe a parallel twin as more exciting than a V before.

[@Bass1923]

Most reviews that compare the two (vstrom and versys) say the versys has the "revvier" engine and that it is more exciting to ride. The vstrom engine's is too linear without a power band. I think this is what they mean.

[@ntdscherer]

@@Bass1923 By "power band" do you mean pronounced power peak? I've always understood power band to be the range of RPM through which an engine develops the most power. So it can be wide or narrow, but not absent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_band

[@Bass1923]

@@ntdscherer You are correct in what you say. I should have been more precise in my explanation. In common parlance, power band often refers to a surge of power that comes on at a specific rpm range. For instance, the inline 4-cylinder engine on my 1975 Kawasaki Z1 hits its "power band" at 5,000 rpm. This is where the power really begins to pick up and increases until peak, where it then levels off. The vstrom's power is described as more linear than the versys, hence there is never a real surge. The surge in power on a versys is perceived by some riders as more exciting. It is an opinion. This is what I gather from reviews that compare the two bikes. I have not ridden the versys and have only ridden a vstrom in the 1000 variety. But I must agree that a significant surge in power experienced through a range of rpm is exciting. But this is only one person's opinion.

[@rogerkay8603]

@@Bass1923 spot on, the V is nice but has no appreciable power difference in the linear delivery. Nice, lazy, boring.

[@suprlite]

​@@rogerkay8603 the v-strom 1000 is not lazy, and it weighs only 15kg more, and goes for about the same used 😊

[@illusivec]

Definitely agreed on "boring engine" part. I used to have KTM Duke 390 before this. Even though it was 390CC and a single, it felt like flying compared to V 650. I don't mind it though. I'm older now, so I'm not after the speed or acceleration. My wife wouldn't get on the back of the Duke because it was "scary", she likes the V-Strom.

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi, well that’s funny as I now have a Duke 390. I agree it’s a really fun bike. For the roads over here in the Philippines it has plenty of power.

[@bkp100]

Very good, thorough review... I've had a 2013 650 Strom, and now a 2017 (with a 2015 Versys in-between). The only point I disagree with you on, is the P-Twin Versys having more torque (on the low end). The Kawi likes to rev hi, and seems to hit its sweet-spot at 6-7k revs, while the Strom definitely takes it out of the gate, and up to about 4-5k, especially with the new mapping and engine tweaking they did on the 2017+. I agree w/ you on the brakes. Would have liked a bit more bite, but I felt I got some of that with an upgrade to braided stainless brake lines (I got the +2 inches version, to take the slack for the risers I added). Great review, though... I was curious about 2020 changes...

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi Barry, I think I may have worded it incorrectly as you are right the Versys does like to be revved more. I have actually just picked up a 2019 V-Strom 1000 now I'm back in the UK. I'm currently editing the video for that one but the main improvement I see over the 650 is indeed the brakes. There are a number of other things too but that's the one I most appreciate. Thanks for your comment.

[@CarterHurd]

Which did you prefer, between the Versys and V-Strom? I am a new rider looking for something to handle rough Michigan roads and very occasional gravel roads. I like the look of both of these bikes

[@bkp100]

@@CarterHurd Easy... hands down, the Strom. I liked the handling better, the lower revs, the better parts aftermarket, *much* better instrument panel, traction control, easier to lower (just replace the bones on the Strom... I needed a special part fabricated by Motowerk, for the Versys). And, my *biggest* pet peeve with the Kawi was the side-by-side headlights, whereas only one lit for standard beams, and the other for high beams. You wouldn't believe the number of times I was told I have a light out... And, finally, the Versys has a funky rear extended fender/plate holder that precluded the use of my Pit Bull stands... Regardless of the above, the Versys is an incredibly FUN bike (as is the Strom)... They're both tall bikes, so, if your inseam < 32", you might want to think about lowering, especially if this is your first bike (they're top-heavy, and can be a handful for a new rider). They'll both handle rough roads, some gravel and fire roads... Beyond that, I wouldn't call either one a trail bike without lots of modification... Either one is a great choice, and you'd be hard-pressed to find an owner of either that regrets the buy...

[@CarterHurd]

​@@bkp100 I like the look of the V better, so it's good to hear you like it. I've got a 34" inseam and felt comfortable on the similarly sized bikes I have sat on, so not too worried about the height. I'm glad you're back to the bike you liked the best.. Thanks for the reply!

[@nickbenfell4327]

Never had any problem with foot pegs

[@rogerl7533]

Excellent video on how to ride a motorbike if you're indifferent about staying alive, and intact, into retirement.

[@Tripleb6036]

I must be indifferent then 😂

[@rogerl7533]

​@@Tripleb6036apparently.

[@rogerl7533]

@@Tripleb6036 probably

[@Hooner77]

I have a 17 Base model and love it. The only time I felt under powered was at freeway speeds with a 20 mph headwind. I switched from a Yamaha FZ6 with more power but only seemed happy above 3000 rpm. Being 60 I like the power at the low end. I fell much more confident during low speed riding. I am 5' 8" and have not found a problem with the pegs being my way. I have done a couple of long tours on it and found it comfortable even after 500 miles. If I were going to do a lot of riding two up I would look for a motorcycle with more power. The best part was the price. Mine was a left over 2017 I purchased in July of 2018. The selling price was $5995.00 usd before setup and license fees. Enjoy and stay safe.

[@Tripleb6036]

That's a fantastic price for a great bike. I loved mine and the issues I picked out were only tiny in the grand scheme of things. I just don't think you can go wrong with a VStrom. Ride safe.

[@MegaPaddles]

You can change the traction control if you are travelling less than 30mph

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

I’ve owned a SV650 and ridden a V Strom 650. The engine, basically the same engine feels quite different. The SV has much more low end growl and pull. The V Strom feels like a v twin no doubt but it doesn’t pull like the SV. Mid band is strong, but the V Twin experience isn’t quite as fun as the SV. Still, I could easily start from 3rd gear. The seat height is also two inches taller then the SV, and even for someone that’s 6’ tall, you’re on your tippy toes at a standstill. The V Strom isn’t as flickable as the SV, but the V Strom balances in a straight line extremely well. The engine is a little boring, but it’s very usable. And that’s more important anyway.

[@Tripleb6036]

Interesting, although I’m 5’11-6ft and can flat foot the VStom easily. I certainly loved the vStrom 650, it’s a great dependable bike although some people thought I was being negative about it in the video that wasn’t my intention. If I was still in the UK and could only have one do it all bike on a budget it would be right up there.

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

@@Tripleb6036 I'm looking at new 2022 GSX-S750Z ABS. I'm going to test ride it this week. Not sure I want that type of engine, the v twin experience is what I'm after right now, but we'll see. The bike is very comfortable, and it's good looking, IMO. Really like that blue tank cover/radiator shroud. Suzuki doesn't get enough credit for their design aesthetics.

[@death2pc]

Had use of this bike for three days, about 200 miles of general roads and would rate it utterly beyond top flight.

[@Tripleb6036]

I guess you liked it then 😁

[@dry509]

I am concerned about vibrations, wind protection, and going over bumps?

[@beaunaro]

AddedT-rex skid plate, engine guards, smallish hard bags, tank bag, and rode the WI BDR, on the stick Bridgestone 80/20 tires. Has plenty of fuel capacity, but some better off-road tires is a good idea.

[@knifenoob5411]

Honest opinions.hand guards are great in cold weather. Best Buy for most practical motorcycle ever! ? !

[@beaunaro]

2018 DR650XT in yellow. Love it!

[@moto_therapist4536]

Hello!I m concidering buying one Vstrom new model 2023!I would like to ask you if you have noticed during cruising at 160 km/h and above any tremble on the handlebars…thank you

[@Tripleb6036]

I never noticed any. Although cruising at 160kmh was not something I did often. When travelling uk and Europe I’d cruise at 80mph -90mph with no problems.

[@Bass1923]

Thank you for the useful review. You touched on the points that interest me most. I am considering the versys or the vstrom and am interested in how well they handle 2-up touring. Most reviews do not even discuss that. Well done.

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks. I can say the VStrom handles 2up touring with luggage just fine. I travelled all over Europe with mine.

[@TheErcaciotta]

did you recognize shimming with topcase on and without passenger?

[@timsretirementjourney8323]

Great video and review. I no sooner than started looking at your review and said to myself hey he's in the Philippines, .. while later thinking it looked like Cebu. Man a bike like that must be like a Cadillac of bikes over there since so many just have small Rusi's or other small Japanese machines. We plan on retiring over there before much longer and I had been thinking a 650 V-Strom would be just about perfect. They're more pricey there than here in Canada though.

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi Tim, Thanks for your comment. Yes I’m in south Cebu. Was back in the U.K. for the last year but in Cebu again now. Most ‘big bikes’ here are overpriced with the exception of Kawasaki. I just picked up a new 2019 Africa Twin and it was £13,000 , quite a bit more than I’d pay back in the U.K. The VStrom was just as good here to be honest but I’ve had 4 so fancied a change. You have connections to Cebu?

[@timsretirementjourney8323]

@@Tripleb6036 hi and thanks for the reply. I don't have connections there but have been to Cebu back in the spring of 2019 on our way through to Bohol and Panglao Island. We spent a couple of days in Cebu as we traveled and visited a few of the more touristy places. I really liked it there. My connections are mostly in Dumangas, Iloilo where my wife's family (most of them anyhow) live. I also have a younger brother that lives in Quezon City and has lived full time in the Philippines for around 10 years now. My wife and I have been making payments on a new studio style condo in San Fernando, Pampanga for about 4 1/2 years now and it will be turned over to us this autumn. Being right next to the NLEx I've been thinking the 650 V-Strom would be about perfect for me since its bigger than most bikes there, although still not as big and heavy as my current bike (a 1988 Suzuki GSX1100F) I love big 4 cylinders but they don't make a lot of sense for a country like the Philippines. :) It's nice to know you're back over there, and now that I found your channel I'll check out more of your content. Take care and ride safe.

[@ashleyhawkins4113]

you can change tc on the fly if your throttle is fully shut bud

[@FrankCombatful]

In your personal preference , Versys 650 is better in general ? May i know what are the cons in V Strom & in Versys 650 Thanks ride safe !

[@psalm2forliberty577]

Nice review ! I have a lo miles 08 V-Strom 650, all of what you say applies (mine has less tech). Another main takeaway: The Philippines (where you are) has a TON of motorbikes...they seem to outnumber cars 5 to 1 ! Just curious, are those other bikes more small scooters / sub 250cc motorcycles ? Are largish 650cc + bikes rare over there ?

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks. I used to have an 08 too. Rode all over Europe on it. Yeh scooters are the main mode of transport here. Cars are expensive relative to wages. Big bikes (anything over 150cc here) are fairly rare but getting more common as more manufacturers and choices become available. In my provincial town there are a handful of big bikes. Put it this way, when I see or hear one I notice it.

[@beomsukim3929]

What country is it? Oh, just heard you mention Philippine.

[@danilocapellan1316]

I love this motorcycle.

[@robhobbs3938]

What a great review, thank you.

[@Tripleb6036]

Cheers Rob. New one on the V Strom 1000 coming soon.

[@Imperadorio]

I don't necessarily agree with you about the vtwin-engine which means the experience is unique based on a personal ride. There are quite a few motorbikes that punch you out of the seat as you open the throttle (MT900 tracer, KTM etc). Suzuki's torque smoothness in my viewpoint is because like me I don't like to ride aggressively. They understood that a long time ago. Cheers.

[@Tripleb6036]

That’s fair enough. Everyone likes something different. I wasn’t intending to put the VStrom down as I like the bike, it’s great at what it does. I should know, I’ve owned 3. Yes to KTM, that’s why I’m picking up a Duke 890R this Wednesday.

[@Imperadorio]

That bike is a beast! I just sold last year my mt900 too much power I wasn't sure and comfortable with it. I will try the new vstrom 650 looking forward to it.

[@human1513]

Maybe replace the front brake lines with braided lines to eliminate the expanding that the rubber ones do.

[@Tripleb6036]

Could do but to be honest it's probably not worth the effort on a V Strom.

[@johnthorburn1913]

I thought I recognised the voice of the Cotswold Photographer! Good video. I was going to buy one of these last year but opted for the Versys 650 GT instead.

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi John, Ah you got me, my two favourite things, photography and motorbikes. How are you finding the Versys?

[@kresimirhuis8111]

You forgot to say how linear it is :D

[@SquareSun88]

you dont have to stop for TC, just release the throttle.

[@Tripleb6036]

Yep, I realised that after this video. Thanks.

[@RRROCK957]

Seems that the 650 V Strom is more than enough bike for the roads you were riding in Philippines. Because I'm looking for a mid size bike in Philippines and the V-Strom 650 will do a good job there.

[@Tripleb6036]

It’s definitely enough for the Philippines roads. I’d say it’s the perfect choice for here. Unless you’re up in Luzon and on the expressways a lot you can’t use more power than the VStrom 650 has.

[@CurtisL8.3066]

So you want a s1000xr? Cause I don’t get the complaints about the engine, it’s ideally suited to the type of bike it is. I came off a gtr1400 with loads of power, and this little 650 has a gem of an engine. Plus a ham fisted punter like myself can work on it without messing it up. You should like you are yearning for an inline 4 to me, no reason to kinda shit on the power since it’s a 650 twin

[@RonaiHenrik]

Would you recommend it for 2-up touring with luggage and all? I'm 86 kg 196 cm, my girlfriend is 63 kg 170 cm. I currently own a TDM900 (86 hp, 88 Nm)

[@Tripleb6036]

Yes it's fine. I toured all over Europe on a 2009 VSTROM 650 with a pillion around the same weight, Fully loaded with top box and hard panniers plus a large tank bag. It still pulled fine and handled motorways fine.

[@peterbai2203]

hi,i have africa twin 1000l,but I feel it is not esay to control when I move it,and I want to change 650xt,how u think?could u give me some opinion,which one better?

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi Peter, I also have an Africa Twin now. Personally if I could choose again I’d go for the VStrom 650xt. The Africa twins engine is lovely, it’s comfortable and great build quality and finish. However the VStrom is just as comfortable, build quality is a notch below but still good, engine is not as nice but still decent and plenty fast enough you just have to Rev it more and the main thing is it handles way better on road than the Africa twin. The VStrom is also lighter but it’s not a huge difference to be honest.

[@peterbai2203]

@@Tripleb6036 Thank you for your reply.Africa twin The frustration is very obvious in the first and second gears. The worst part is the seat. The long time travel and the butt pain is very painful. However, I modified the seat several times and it was still not very comfortable. I tested the BMW 1250gs and it was very comfortable.This is actually the main reason why I have to change africatwin. Of course I am also considering new nc750x 2021（wait it ）, and I also like 650xt

[@rentvandvlogs908]

Oh You remember me. Hahaha Thanks for Noticing me Commenting in your FB page. 😁😁 Thanks. RIDE SAFE. I LOVE TO SEE MORE OF YOUR VLOGS AND TO TAKE A PEEK OF UK soon. ❤

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks bro. Lots of the UK and Europe soon. I'm going to take you guys on a tour of my place :-)

[@dry509]

Have you tried the Versys 650 to see if it does have better acceleration? I wonder which bike does in this price category? I am considering getting a Vstrom 650. Very good points you made. I actually would like to get a rush from acceleration. Have you demoed any at this point that are quicker and that are exciting? Very good review.

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks. I’ve not tried the versys 650 but have owned the ninja 650 which is basically the same engine. I think I’d ridden hard that engine can give you a rush. But honestly of all the bikes I’ve ridden the Duke 790 is the wildest/ offers the most excitement. That thing just wants to go fast all the time.

[@jacqalas]

Great video! I would like to know if you can still disable the abs by leaving it on the centre stand in second gear spinning for a while. That's what I normally do before I go onto a gravel road with my 2015 and it stays off until you turn the key of and back on again.

[@Tripleb6036]

Can’t help you I’m afraid as I no longer have the bike and never tried this.

[@2tallnegrito7cmn55]

What about the v storm 1000cc? Would it give me a rush. Im thinking about it as my first bike since i am 6 foot 10 inches tall

[@Tripleb6036]

It’s got plenty of power. I owned one and now have the 1050XT. Rush, it depends how much power you are used to.

[@mattm1987]

Is a 2018 vstrom 650 xt for $6,000 U.S. Dollars a good buy???

[@Tripleb6036]

Is it brand new just older model? If so then yes

[@mattm1987]

@@Tripleb6036 used, 2k miles... Thanks for replying

[@Tripleb6036]

I can get a brand new 2020 for $8900 here so at $6000 for a 2018 sounds like a decent deal.

[@petermitchell9699]

Hello there I am thinking about taking on riding, I never really rode any bike( apart from a 180cc scooter), I am going to get a motorcycle license but would you consider the strom 650 as a beginner bike (I absolutely love the bike) just want to know. Thanks

[@Tripleb6036]

I’m of the opinion that virtually any bike can be ridden by a beginner. It’s more about your attitude than anything else as if your not responsible all bikes can get you into trouble. Just take it steady, ride defensively and I’m sure the V Strom will be fine for you.

[@petermitchell9699]

@@Tripleb6036 thanks for the reply. Ride safe!!!

[@FrankCombatful]

Have you ride Versys 650 , how do you find the difference between the two ? thanks ride safe

[@Tripleb6036]

I haven’t ridden the versys although I have owned a Z650 and Ninja 650 with the same engine. I prefer the V Storm’s engine.

[@40spinup]

If I wanted a sport bike engine I’d have gotten a sports bike, that’s not what this bike is about. I’ve ridden hours and hours, the torque is just in the right spot for everyday or distance riding. Maybe being a bit shorter I don’t have an issue with the pegs maybe the 1000 would have fitted you better.

[@touringriders7248]

Nice review. I'm thinking in getting one to do a little bit of off road. ✌️

[@rusty358]

What about heat from the engine during hot weather? Is it uncomfortable?

[@Tripleb6036]

The heat management is very good. I’ve ridden it in the Philippines heat without even feeling the heat off the engine.

[@dhavald4359]

which bike give thrill in 650cc

[@Tripleb6036]

Any of them are capable of doing that. Ninja 650 has decent torque. CBR650R in-line 4 revving and power.

[@johnbence8198]

Did you buy your v strom in the Philippines or hire many thanks John

[@Tripleb6036]

Bought it from GUD Motors.

[@tuanoful]

I do 2up with luggage and it's true, if you're going north of 140km per hour, you are straining the motor. But if you're doing 120-140 you're fine. I was doing 150 170 (indicated) on the highway and I had to push it hard, not sure if the bike was happy about that.

[@mindspinn311]

JustThaor As long as you are regularly changing your oil and the engine isn’t overheating then that speed isn’t straining the engine. That terminology is a bit of a myth or at least a misnomer. Modern motorcycle engines, like cars, are tested at higher rpm and load than most riders will ever put on them. This engine can cruise at wide open throttle and 8000rpm as long as it has fuel and it’s not overheating. As long as the radiator is properly filled with coolant and the bike is moving and air is hitting the fins it should never overheat unless you are moving very slowly off-road or in extreme heat. Even then the radiator has an electric fan. You will break before it does.

[@tuanoful]

@@mindspinn311 That is some very useful info, makes me feel better. Thanks for the comment. When I said straining the motor I meant that it didn't have much power left and was really high in revs, around 8500 like you said. Which is close to redline

[@mindspinn311]

JustThaor In what gear and at what speed? I’m just curious.

[@tuanoful]

@@mindspinn311 sixth gear, north of 150 indicated (faster when the road and wind were in our favor, up to 170) 2up full gear and luggage

[@mindspinn311]

JustThaor Right you said that before 😅 my bad.

[@lavlarous4349]

Does anyone have vibrations on 120-150? Or is this speed range great foe touring in highways? This is my biggest concern with my cb500x and considering to upgrade it with this beauty.

[@Tripleb6036]

I’ve never experienced anything out of the ordinary. It will sit at 80-90mph all day.

[@lavlarous4349]

@@Tripleb6036 Thank you for replying. So, at which speed vibrations become noticable?

[@Tripleb6036]

Any more than I would expect from a v twin.... never.

[@JustForFun-zh7cy]

"I look forward to your vlogs on the A roads in the rain!"... yep, that was me HaHa! Thats a good honest review which I enjoy. 44Teeth are great... just slow on the content being provided, or maybe it just feels that way as we're impatient for the next content!

[@Tripleb6036]

Hey Vince, Yeh I'm impatient with 44 teeth as I've binge watched almost all their content now.

[@marksimpson5218]

The scooters were going past you at 3.41 you may need a full system & remap.

[@Tripleb6036]

😂😂😂

[@robsonenduro3316]

good video, I own 650xt and pegs are indeed in weird position, standing also is very uncomfortable so for off-road it's not very good bike especially with this bad ergonomy, low ground clearance, soft suspension and stock tyres. With heavy load and pillion v-strom is also a bit unstable at low speed, Anyway I agree, after a year and 10k km I am already thinking about selling it.

[@Tripleb6036]

What are you thinking of getting to replace it? I'm considering a Honda CRF Rally 250 when I get back to the Philippines.

[@robsonenduro3316]

@@Tripleb6036 I was thinking about honda CRF1100 but they went nuts with pricing :) BTW I have owned cfr250l and I do not recommend this bike, rally is basically same bike. Very under powered and weak suspension.

[@Tripleb6036]

Yeh I know it's not powerful but would quite suit the roads in the Philippines. I've looked at the Africa Twin but I don't want to spend that much on an adventure bike out in the Philippines as I plan on buying a few bikes. I'm actually in a position where I can buy my dream bike, a Ducati Panigale (V2 not V4) but the roads just won't suit it. But its so beautiful I think I'd be happy just looking at it in my driveway 😂

[@willidevegt8831]

from the start i want to say that i didn't watch your movie until the end. but from the things you say about the beautiful V-strom i believe you don't understand the bike or where it was made for

[@Tripleb6036]

And from the start I want to say you didn’t watch my review of the bike so don’t understand that I’ve owned 4 VSTROM 650’s and love the bike so sadly it is you who understands nothing. One point I will disagree with you on though is calling the bike beautiful. Now your opinion and mine may vary on beauty but I have a drop dead gorgeous wife and have owned multiple beautiful bikes so I think I’m qualified to say you are wrong on this point. Rugged, yes, functional yes, wonderful and reliable yes. Beautiful no. Now go enjoy your bike instead of being upset that I pointed out a few things that I think could be improved on the V Strom.

[@marklevy9]

Out of interest. What is the rpm in 3rd at 100km/h please - approx?

[@richardrichard5409]

Why would like to know this, puzzled?

[@winduncan9818]

How hard is it to find a used VStrom or CB500x in the Philippines?

[@Tripleb6036]

Very hard I would think.

[@amiruscz]

How is the clutch? Is it soft? :)

[@Tripleb6036]

Compared to what? A ninja 400.. then it’s takes a bit more strength but it’s perfectly light enough.

[@boreragnarok]

I think I've seen other youtubers change TC modes while rolling by just disengaging the throttle

[@Tripleb6036]

Correct. My mistake.

[@christophersharpe7978]

Great review and thanks for the channel recommendation. I always enjoyed Baron von Grumble. :)

[@Tripleb6036]

Haha yeh he cracks me up. He’s still the same on 44 teeth when he actually makes an appearance

[@tangoindiamike9189]

If I understand you correctly, this bike is inadequately adequate?

[@Tripleb6036]

Haha I’d say it’s adequate. It’s fine, good bike, not going to set the world on fire but then it’s a V Strom 650, it’s not meant to.

[@knu8527]

ive been viewing this vid 10x or more. i have this kind of dilemma on the vstrom 650xt and the tracer 900. my heart is on the vstrom but my mind is on the tracer due to dealership. basically here in mindanao the suzuki has only 1 dealership at davao city which is 370km from my place. and the yamaha has 3 dealership and one is just 70km away from my place. my oh my i just love the vstrom but this pandemic made it too hard to purchase.

[@Tripleb6036]

This Pandemic is a pain in the ass. I can’t get my first service done on my Duke as I can’t go to Cebu city at the moment. Mind you, it’s a good excuse for a 600km road trip every time you need a service 😁 The VStrom is a lovely bike, I’m even thinking of buying another although the Tracer is great too if you’re staying on road. That 900cc triple also sounds great.

[@PhilippinesMyParadise]

Big thank you for a fantastic and great review video and for all your other excellent videos... Good luck and wish you all the best. Be safe, stay safe, stay healthy! Best regards/Ned 👍🏍👍

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks. Stay safe too

[@buteos8632]

And 2 up in the highway everybody passes you and wind is a big problem! Cheers

[@rommelmantuano6191]

Hows the vibrations/buzz?

[@Tripleb6036]

Fine.

[@manzahalem8845]

Virtually non-existent. I’ve owned a 2009 and currently own 2013. Bulletproof scooters that do it all. Great UJM (universal Japanese motorcycle).

[@tomquinn607]

I'm retired in the Philippines, Dumaguete. Am shopping for a 650 V Strom. Have you sold your Zooki yet?

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi Tom, yep sold it I'm afraid. I know the existing owner is also looking to sell it but he is asking far too much for it and in fact more than he got it for. Such is the way in the Philippines. Used bikes are often over priced. I'd buy new if I were you.

[@tomquinn607]

@@Tripleb6036 Thanks for your reply. Yes the used vehicle market here loves its pie in the sky. My fault for not becoming a subscriber sooner! Really looking forward to your videos from Europe. I'll hold down the fort in the Philippines. 😎

[@Tripleb6036]

@@tomquinn607 Thanks Tom. I'm actually heading back to the Philippines as soon as this virus situation clears up. Hope you're enjoying Dumaguete. I used to live there, really like it and the people.

[@tomquinn607]

@@Tripleb6036 Yes I thought that you were riding the National Highway on the V Strom. I think I saw the bike for sale at 'Big Bikes' for p470, 000. Anyway me and my legions will clear up this YooHooan virus so that the coast is clear for you shall return. ☺ Meanwhile we'll dream along on your horse power fueled dance across Europe. You go Guy!

[@tomquinn607]

And yes. It's always about the people for us. Isn't it?

[@pierrecoscolluela6988]

Said you're headed back to UK, are you gonna sell your bike? Hehehe just asking!

[@Tripleb6036]

Yes, it's available. If you're interested just message me

[@andrusdominiclacbayo5465]

@@Tripleb6036 Have you sold it already? 😎

[@greenambles]

I was tempted by Suzuki's current 0% over 4 years and £500 off but that a damning review if only as the unspoken word shouted from the rooftops here was BLAND. ...how many times did you say "it's very linear"? You struggled to say anything decent about it so grateful to get the view. I'll check a few more reviews too. I learnt on an SV which I loved and now have a Triumph Street Twin which I adore but the Suzuki deal turning my head towards a second contrasting bike. It's got to offer something beyond the deal though and unfortunately it seems from your perspective the 650 falling well short.

[@Tripleb6036]

Hi Barney, I didn't mean this video to sound negative as some people have taken it. See my actual review for the positives on this bike. It can be fun, it's reliable and economical. I can't really fault this bike except yes, it's not particularly exciting but for trips around Europe, crunching highway miles etc it's great. I don't have it any more but I have owned 3 V Strom 650's so it's obvious from that that I like them. I have a ZX6R and Duke 790 now. If you want fun get a Duke. That's the most fun I've had on a bike and I've rode loads.

[@greenambles]

@@Tripleb6036 Many thanks for the reply. Love that Duke 790 (only seen , not yet tried). As said I've a Triumph Street Twin that I adore but have many mod plans for as a labour of love over years to come. It was the 0% over 4 years + £500 off that made me consider getting a Suzuki but just not the appeal for me overall, even with that deal.

[@mohddamiri2846]

I once owned the previous version (bought in 2016), but sold it off after a year coz the heat radiates up from the 1 cylinder which is located under the seat. Do you feel as such for this new version?

[@Tripleb6036]

Never noticed heat issues on mine.

[@handprintsschool2484]

I can feel the heat from the engine as well. did you do any solutions?

[@TR5T]

it is a shame when people too young to have experienced the 60s/70s bikes new. As a 77 year old riding 63 years I find the V storm for above most bikes I ridden because every bike is a compromise. My Street triple 765 RS is very fast, my FZ1s were even faster but that is not all motorbikes are confined to. Ride any bike for what it is as they are unique in design and function. Any bike that can cover every mode the Vstrom can and still run 200,000 miles do 100 mph all day + is beyond perfect. If speed is all you are about you will eventually run out of luck and road.

[@Tripleb6036]

It’s a shame that people watch one video and take it as negative when it isn’t intended to be. If you watch my review of the VStrom 650 you will see that I’ve owned 2x 2009 VStrom 650’s , toured all over Europe on them plus this 650 xt which I praise in the video review. I agree with the points that you make, except it being beyond perfect but it is very good for its intended purpose. That’s why I have multiple bikes for different purposes. I’m not a speed guy, I have a daughter who relies on me which curtailed my ‘need for speed’. Acceleration is fun for me, top speed, not so much anymore. Enjoy your VStrom

[@mtvd4all]

more power get a V Strom 1050 and you won't complain too much !!! Also its very reliable , none problems mechanically, ever !!!

[@Tripleb6036]

I just did Daniel 😃. Fantastic bike. Thanks for commenting.

[@mrniceguy4920]

a big plus is that you don't really need to polish or clean it at all. all powder coat and plastic

[@Tripleb6036]

Don't tell my wife that. Cleaning bikes is a bit of me time that I treasure 😜

[@mrniceguy4920]

@@Tripleb6036 your secret's safe with me ;)

[@louieraycruz]

Thank you Triple B God Bless and More Power to Sir

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks Ghurkz and ride safe.

[@shivarungta]

A very comprehensive video on the Suzuki Triple B. The effort shows in your detailed approach to touch every aspect of the bike! Just one suggestion, maybe your camera could point more towards the road while you give your inputs so it gets even more interesting :)

[@Tripleb6036]

Hey Shiva, thanks for taking the time to comment, it's much appreciated. Are you talking about the camera angle or a multicam set up with different views?

[@bikerbeliever8169]

Great review. This bike is very affordable looking at one for my dad who hasnt rode in 30 plus years and thought this was good affordable option to start with.

[@Tripleb6036]

I'd say it will be perfect and if I was your dad I'd be very, very happy.

[@evankrhodes]

Nice content. It looks like you're rising in the Philippines.

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks. Yeh I am again now.

[@hazizilamsin]

Great info and useful knowledge bro, does buying second hand the previous v-storm xt are worthy? Thanks

[@Tripleb6036]

I guess it depends on the local market and the prices. In the UK they're great value new and used.

[@hazizilamsin]

@@Tripleb6036 thanks bro for respond. Right here ini Malaysia the current XT price on the road will cost me 53k Malaysian Ringgit (year made 2019-2020). Other choices will be 2nd hand around 27k Malaysian Ringgit for XT version (year made 2016-2017).

[@davidfleet]

@@hazizilamsin Oh in that case I'd buy used as thats a big price difference and these bikes are bomb proof so I would feel confident buying a used one. I have owned 2x used V-Strom 650's before and never had any issues with them and they were 2009 models. Try and get one 2017 onwards though as that is the latest significant model upgrade year.

[@hazizilamsin]

@@davidfleet right now im dalemma for choosing and buying for the adv category bike. Most of them are 2nd hand. I cannot effort for brand new. So i choose 2nd. Here's are the list of the bike. 1. CB500X ABS "LED Headlamp" (year made 2016 - 2017) 24k - 27k Malaysian Ringgit. 2. Kawasaki Versys 650 (year made 2013-2014) 18k - 22k Malaysian Ringgit. 3. Suzuki V-Strom 650 XT (year made 2016-2017) price tag around 26k - 27k Malaysian Ringgit. 4. Benelli TRK502X (brand new, becoz its cheap and price tag around those 3 bikes above and price tag 27k - 30k Malaysian Ringgit) My budget below 28k Malaysian Ringgit and the most popular will be the CB500X and Versys 650 here in Malaysia, as for the V-Strom 650 and TRK 502 a bit hard too saw in Malaysian road.

[@johndayvalcorza6574]

Are you permanently moving to Europe sir? Nice review on that beast btw ... Ride Safe

[@Tripleb6036]

Morning Johnday. Yes we are heading there in February at least for a few years. We will be back here regularly though and maybe one day permanently. Gotta go for work...

[@johndayvalcorza6574]

@@Tripleb6036 goodmorning to you also sir.. ohh so thats bcuz of work .. well i hope the best for you nd your fam when u'll be there in Europe... but what about your motorcycles sir? R u gonna bring that also there ?

[@Tripleb6036]

I'm selling the ones I have here and buying new ones in the UK.

[@juliomanalo7074]

Where are you in the Philippines?

[@Tripleb6036]

I'm in the UK now. Was in Cebu before though.

[@juliomanalo7074]

Oh no wonder the roads and scenery look familiar. Southern Cebu is it?

[@Tripleb6036]

Barili.

[@bradb2514]

Great insights!

[@KamleshDesai]

which country are you riding in?

[@Tripleb6036]

In this video it is the Philippines but now I'm in the UK.

[@volt8684]

70bhp is normal for 650-750cc. I have never found mine lacking. Reliability is unrivaled

[@ajfulco192]

Another good video David. On a side note, you guys sure move a lot. LOL.

[@Tripleb6036]

Thanks AJ. Yep I suppose we're trying to find somewhere right. But this will be the last move for a long time hopefully 😁