I have a 08 Suzuki v-strom 650, and a 16 Kawasaki versys 650. I know they are different generations, but I’ll give my take. I think that the V-strom is better for long rides. It’s smother, less vibrations and the larger wheels make it seem like a better ride. The Kawasaki is great for quick runs around town. I put a 14 tooth front sprocket on the Suzuki (down for the 15 tooth stock), and the Kawasaki stock gearing is still quicker. Overall I think they both are good at different things. The suzuki I like because it’s smooth, and a very good leaner. I’ve actually drug the foot pegs more than once on it. The Kawasaki is quick and great to jump train tracks and speed bumps, but can’t lean turns as well. Hope this helps for anyone who cares… lol
@heltonvampo69593 жыл бұрын
I bought v-strom 650xt 2019 and it fits all my needs.A strong reason (beside cheap,reliable,good allround bike) is that it is the biggest bike of its category (adv touring 650-900cc) and i do lot of tours with my wife and it has a lot of space...maybe i need to go for a better saddle in the future.Highly recommend this bike!
@rosendocavazos45662 жыл бұрын
How does it do with two-up?
@SandroGrow3 жыл бұрын
I like both and have to confess that the V-Strom is more confortable for both the rider and the passenger considering the original seat, but a custom seat will solve that. The V-Strom is kinda boring on the road, imo... The suspension is amazingly confortable, but the wheel distance and the larger front wheel makes it a heavier bike in the turns, whyle the Versys is very agile and capable of turning almost as a sport bike, which is one of the major reasons I went with it instead of the V-Strom. The wheel distance also affects maneuvers in city traffic, being the versys much easier to ride in traffic. The other major reason I went with the Versys is the price. The Tourer (full) version is cheaper than the stock V-strom. I'm with my second Versys 650 Tourer.
@9gagerofl2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget you can completely tune the versys suspension to your ride style. V-strom has a fixed suspension 🥴
@Krydolph2 жыл бұрын
Dunno if it changed a lot recently, or its just the market I am in. But I can get the V-strom with the big pacage with all the extras and luggage, for less than the base versys, or the same if I chose the vstrom XT. But price is the main reason I lean more towards V-strom right now. I think they both would be great, but if price was of no concern to me, I would probably chose versys
@TrustyZ9006 ай бұрын
I can truthfully say, my '22 XT Adventure is one of the most agile bikes in the twisties I've ever ridden.I also have a Z900, Z900RS, SV 650 and HD Low Rider S. I'd like to see a duel up in the mountains between both. The handling of the DL is impeccable. Would put it up against any bike including a versys.
@jhooton753 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I have 20,000 miles on my Versys 650, and agree with everything you're saying. About 75% of my riding is a 25 mile commute to work via combination of highway and country roads. The other 25% is a mix of interstate, 2 lane, and dirt and gravel roads. It's done everything I've asked it to do. I don't regret my purchase at all. But I think if I was doing any more off road than what I do, I'd go with something more adventure oriented.
@dragoclarke94972 жыл бұрын
Agree, 30000 trouble free miles on mine, touring all over Europe.
@HazardSports11 ай бұрын
What did you end up doing? I did 30,000mi on a Versys 650. Sold it for a new Africa Twin and did abut 13,000mi on it. Then sold that and back on a new Versys 650. I will explain it all in a few videos I am uploading soon - but clearly you see where I went in that search for the best bike for me. I am curious if you bought an ADV or if you’re still in the Versys.
@johnyoung35113 жыл бұрын
I had a 2009 VStrom 650 and put 45,000 miles on it. Never let me down. Now I have a 2021 model. Can't say fairer than that :-)
@UncleWally33 жыл бұрын
Both good motorcycles, but a 90° v-twin 650 inherently provides primary balance and, by default, a character that differentiates it from a parallel twin. For me, that character is priceless.
@actstuntcam3 жыл бұрын
I did think the DL sounded better than the Versys. However, I love the sound of my Africa Twin and that is a parallel twin, so I think it depends on the bike. A DL1000 with aftermarket pipes is a thing of beauty - music to the ears :)
@ewganhoff3 жыл бұрын
@@actstuntcam AT has 270 crank which gives the power strokes the same spacing as 90 v twin. So it sounds like (and practically is) a v twin.
@falchiherve20243 жыл бұрын
V Strom has been my choice......l m so happy with it!
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
Love to hear it! What's your favourite thing about the bike?
@falchiherve20243 жыл бұрын
@@Kwackajack e everything......bought it brand new mars 2018 and made 53 000 km till now.........ne this is just the begining....a fantastix bike.....smooth....conmfortable....cheap......reliable.........and very fun too for those who know how to ride it.........
@riaanvanwyk53743 жыл бұрын
@@falchiherve2024 have you taken it off-road? If so how did it perform?
@falchiherve20243 жыл бұрын
@@riaanvanwyk5374 i dont wanna go offroad.......for this i take my allterrain bycicle my VTT....To me this v strom is for the roads only......a fantastic bike
@coconuciferanuts3393 жыл бұрын
Me too.Luv me Suzee.
@carlossrcadventure94843 жыл бұрын
Last month i was in the cross road between the two bikes.. but decided on the vstrom650 and i am happy with it.
@robertedge42133 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2021 V-strom 650xt after saving up and watching heaps of reviews and also know a few guys that have either have had or still own V-stroms. Am hooked and love it!
@depe86583 жыл бұрын
Very good choice, it might not be the prettiest or fastest or the best at actually anything, but there is a reason the vstrom has such a big following. Love my 2015 Vstrom 650
@Effenent3 жыл бұрын
I'll have my 2015 V-Strom 650 XT paid off in a couple months. Hit 69k miles last week. Love it. Can't wait to hit 100k. :D
@tonycj78603 жыл бұрын
100k? Push those numbers to 200K!!
@mishimposble3 жыл бұрын
I love my Versys. Over 42,000 miles already
@peterbuxey43552 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my second 650 xt had 2017 great bike brought new 2022 pick it up in couple of weeks happy days
@MatheusXJapan3 жыл бұрын
People... lovers of motorcycles, no doubt both bikes are very good and they face any road! Important thing is not about brand, but the friends you have to ride bike together.
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@dianahardy79163 жыл бұрын
I have owned both and used them for gravel roads and two up road touring. Kawa was the full power version.I would happily own either one again. If you are considering either, I suggest test ride both and decide which one suits you. The Vstrom is a bit more spacious for two people.
@SkylineSquid10 ай бұрын
which is more fun to ride?
@oceantri3 жыл бұрын
I went with the 2020 Vstrom 650xt adventure. Very, very happy with it.
@actstuntcam3 жыл бұрын
I'd go Vstrom - I had the big brother and it was awesome. However, the 650 Wee-strom, sells 4-1 against the big brother. It is value for money, with a bullet-proof engine and handles better than the 1000 everywhere. Great review.
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
True! I think they are a good size for these kinds of bikes
@actstuntcam3 жыл бұрын
@@Kwackajack I haven't ridden the Versys. However, the Ninja 650 I rode (I think the second shape/version) was one of the best all-round sports/tourer/commuter bikes I've ever ridden. If the Versys is as good - it will also be excellent.
@campbellrousselle97522 жыл бұрын
@No_Name It depends on what you are doing with them. I wouldn't take the 650 WeeStrom for two-up touring. However, riding one-up with limited luggage and doing more-serious off-road I'd definitely prefer the 650 over the 1000. If I was only doing the odd gravel road, I'd still take the 1000.
@actstuntcam2 жыл бұрын
@No_Name I liked my 1000 - It was adequate 2-up. I can't imagine the 650 would be that good 2-up with 64hp. Plus the 1000 was wayyyy more exciting to ride and I enjoyed harassing sportbikes. Don't get me wrong, I love the 650. I think it is probably one of the most underrated bikes on the market. That is why they are cheap new and expensive second hand. If you think it is enough for 2, then it is enough for 2, for you. I just wouldn't get one for touring - it has no advantages. As a more serious off-roader the 650 makes sense, especially if you are small, weak, and or old (I considered one for that reason, but bought an Africa Twin instead). If I was only doing road and gravel I'd buy the 1000 (as previously stated). It is faster, pulls harder, it is better at track days and they are cheaper. In reference to your statement "...it has the guts to pull and be comfy..." The same is equally true of the 1000 except with more pull and the same comfort.
@actstuntcam2 жыл бұрын
@No_Name 'Low Ball'? What planet are you living on? I've owned a DL1000 and ridden the DL650 back-to-back with it, so I know EXACTLY what they feel like in comparison to each other. I loved the 650. I've already said as much. How is that 'Low Balling' it? I've also toured on a couple of 250s, owned two DR650s, which I rode a lot in all kinds of conditions (I sold my last DR650 to buy my Africa Twin). I raced a WR426 around a long circuit. Having said that all of those bikes were pretty shit when riding fast and riding long distances! As far as 650 twins go, I wrote an article on both the DL650 AND the Ninja 650 when I worked at Kiwi Rider (I said the Ninja was one of the best bikes I'd ever ridden), so I'm familiar with both of those. I also owned and raced a Hyosung GT650. I like 650s. They are great! IS THAT LOWBALLING THOSE BIKES? If you think small-capacity bikes are the best thing for touring 2-up, fill your boots.
@R3CO2492 жыл бұрын
I've owned a 650 for nearly 4 years. Little off road. Mainly roads and occasionally long distance highway. It's a fantastic bike! Going to keep it as long as I can.
@travelinben19663 жыл бұрын
I opt for the Kawasaki for the rubber mounted frame.That does mitigate vibration alot.I think the Kawasaki is also more aesthetically appealing with only a hint of a beak.You really can't go wrong with either one which is a great thing.Excellent job comparing and contrasting these two bikes.Thank you.👍👍
@rosendocavazos45662 жыл бұрын
Don’t like the beak.
@jokermtb3 жыл бұрын
I like the vstrom better - it's much longer than the versys, and that ability to stretch out on a long ride is wonderful.
@CR-in5vc3 жыл бұрын
Out of about all the bikes I owned; Moto Guzzi v7 special, Honda ctx1300, Yamaha Roadliner, Kawasaki z900rs, Honda vtx1300, Honda monkey, Indian Springfield dark horse, and now the v storm 650 (2017) my favorite by far; enough power for 2 up, light, maneuvers, taller seating, the feel of the engine, just offroad possibilities, wired wheels and tubeless tires. About to pull a deal on a Triumph 800 xta but top heavy feel. You won't be disappointed with the 650: I think that's my favorite platform; the 650's engine, you can drive them hard yet you won't be going extremely fast
@davidmorphett89973 жыл бұрын
I own a 2013 Vstrom 650 . 47000 kms and building . 2 Recalls with no problems and just a joy to own ....It does everything easily with no specialties to name . A great allrounder and I have grown to love it . 500kms from a tank is not unusual and face it most riding we do is at 80 - 100 kms an hour ....why be uncomfortable on a Sport bike ? Ride a Vstrom 650 and see how big they actually are . I would definitely buy another one
@timothyangus95411 ай бұрын
I have had a Gen2 650 for 9 years now. In 2018 I rode it 2 up around the world including going all around Australia. 260 mile range, good economy and comfy all day.
@jeppo11853 жыл бұрын
Great Review Kwakajack:) After test riding both bikes, I went with the Versys 650. It just fitted me better and was more comfortable for me. Rode from Adelaide to Coffs Harbour over xmas and it performed very well. I dropped 3 teeth on the rear, which helped on the highway and I averaged 22.5 km per ltr. Just an easy bike to live with every day.
@jaywhoisit48633 жыл бұрын
That’s not very good highway mileage for a 650. Especially with the longer gearing in the rear. I have a 1000 Vstrom with short gearing (one down in the front) and I get 21 km/l on the highway.
@ElLuigyboy2 жыл бұрын
Jay is right, I have a 2nd Gen 2012 Strom 650, it gives me 25-27 km average per lt with stock gearing at 110-120 kph
@rutwickgangurde32472 жыл бұрын
How is it in city traffic? Daily commute to work maybe, handling around corners and in traffic, low speed torque, weight handling etc.?
@awhoot12 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of the Suzuki, I’m a fan of both manufacturers though!! Two big reasons for me is the 90° V twin on the Suzuki just sounds amazing, and it does appear to be a little more off-road capable!👍🏻
@sa45555 ай бұрын
One can not go wrong with any of these two. Kawasaki really upped its game for Versys for 2024 model, and overall if youre going for highway trips Versys is the machine to get. Not to mention the price difference makes Versys 650 a no brainer.
@TrustyZ9003 жыл бұрын
In 2017, I seen both the Versys and the Vstrom side by side in the local showroom. I preferred the look of the V strom to the Versys. I then spoke to the lead mechanic and warranty manager and both said if they had to chose, they'd go Vstrom. I've had the DL for four glorious years and have no complaints, except for a funky seat cover, which I replaced. This bike is superb. I've had bigger and faster, yet this bike always puts a smile on my face. Try one , you'll love it.
@sebbwebbo7557 Жыл бұрын
I own a Versys650 (non restricted here in Europe). After 2 seasons (can't ride for a few months in the winter because of snow/ice/salt on the streets) the trip counter is at 35.000km. The only thing that broke twice is the bulp of the headlight - not a real issue as it is replaced in 10 minutes. Beside that, I haven't had issues at all. And it's a hell of a fun in the twisties - bad for the bank account, as you need new tires permanently :D I also take her on gravel roads or forestry roads from time to time - works fine if it's not too rough and you don't think you're a dakar racer. But my little Versys has seen more "offroad" than most BMW GS' or Africa Twins here. All in all I can't complain and don't regret buying her. Sure, there are more capable, stronger, prettier or faster bikes out there, but everytime when I'm back in the saddle, I'm just happy with her and don't really need something else :) I'm sure you can take both mentioned Bikes - the VStrom and the Versys - for an around the world trip. Both would do great!
@yourmatejay3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I had a first gen vstrom 650. It was a bit top heavy and I didn’t enjoy riding two up so I sold it and bought my gsxr. I actually really miss it riding on longer trips - I’d happily have another one as a second bike to go off-road and on camping trips with the boys 👍
@jeffjones40713 жыл бұрын
I tested both 2021s I went with the Vstrom 650xt ….. I love my Strom Purchased May 4 2021
@danh.36753 жыл бұрын
Having owned a 2014 Vstrom 1000, and currently owning a 2017 versys 650, I would say that the versys with the 17 front wheel has more sporty turning on pavement. Also lots of power for a 650. It has no off-road pretensions, and I don’t either. Strom was very stable, it wanted to go straight down the road, also good for some dirt.
@jagadeeshbabuk79143 жыл бұрын
Love the storm❤️😎 it looks like a big horse 🐎🐎
@arlodesmond42963 жыл бұрын
I realize Im quite randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream new tv shows online?
@aresmicah31293 жыл бұрын
@Arlo Desmond flixportal :D
@arlodesmond42963 жыл бұрын
@Ares Micah thank you, signed up and it seems like a nice service :) I appreciate it !
@aresmicah31293 жыл бұрын
@Arlo Desmond Happy to help :D
@palantir1353 жыл бұрын
I had the v-strom. A great do it all bike. The versys is probably great too.
@Pebbzor3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Versys 650. Only real complaint so far is wind noise or wind protection. But I’m a tall guy and have found some better fairing. A digital modern display would be nice but it’s not necessary. Haven’t tried the V-Strom.
@superblastpressurewashing.72563 жыл бұрын
I got a GIVA windshield and now the bike is 100% perfect.
@gioredrossi3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki is no mystery that it is inferior to Suzuki starting with the poor frame in welded iron tubes while on Suzuki we have a magnificent aluminum frame, and then ... the strong piece, the engine ... but do you want to put a cheap 2-cylinder in line with a V-twin. but let's not joke, you shouldn't have any doubts about the purchase.!
@patricksandeberg81843 жыл бұрын
Of these two it's the V-strom for me. But in the class. I'd grab a T700
@JJamJ2 жыл бұрын
Completely different beasts. I had the T7 now own xt65 v strom. Xt much more rd biased which is now where most of my miles are. The T7 is a handful off road as it is too heavy.
@sathishrao79263 жыл бұрын
They priced VStrom ridiculously higher than the more popular Versys in India.. Honda priced their CB500X almost equal to that of Versys in India.. So, Versys is all set to continue its dominance in this middleweight “Pseudo Off-road capable” tourer segment in India !
@metalsadman3 жыл бұрын
Same here in Philippines, vstrom is expensive,the 500x tho is quite affordable.
@bobbyjoesugar3 жыл бұрын
Just got my 2020 Versys- very pleased with my purchase
@daveunderhill96363 жыл бұрын
Im on my second Vstrom. Had an 04 650 for a few years and really enjoyed it. Rode a Triumph 900 Scrambler for a couple years then recently picked up a 19 Vstrom 650.
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
How do you find the Strom?
@daveunderhill96363 жыл бұрын
@@Kwackajack I really like it. Good on fuel and has a nice range. The main reason for selling the Triumph and goig back to the V Strom was for the ride quality. The Triumph was really stiff in the back. I have back problems and some of the roads around here are pretty rough. The V Strom rides much better. I have never rode the Versys so I can't compare the two.
@souhailshamaissem75642 жыл бұрын
Another top video mate. And as always it's nice to see Australian contents on you tube.
@Jer08679 ай бұрын
3:47 That's Llanelli beach, about 3 miles from where I live!
@coreytravisbean Жыл бұрын
having owned both, i do want to add that kawasaki's paint finish is more premium. The Vstrom was prone to paint flaking, especially on the beak. I am a bit of a kawasaki simp though, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Both are amazing bikes, I am a motorcycle technician and my boss rides a vstrom 1050 and I've loved it when he lets me take it out. I can't knock either brand, or either model. Can't go wrong with either one.
@davidc1961utube2 жыл бұрын
Here in Ecuador the typical road conditions, even on "paved" roads, mean a bike must be comfortable navigating bumps, potholes, dirt stretches, bulldozed landslides, etc. The Wee is the only reasonable choice for all-country riding, as well as Peru, Colombia, etc.
@kymstock18523 жыл бұрын
I used to own a Vstrom 2013 model. Being from a back ground on dirt bikes I was surprised how poor the suspension was. I upgraded it with stiffer springs and a damper kit. It was better , but one ride on a Tiger XCX and I was sold.
@ler39683 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at both of these models for two years. You have confirmed my 1st choice, the Kawa 650 for its features & history as a solid bike at a great price. I just wish it was about 50mm lower as my legs are growing shorter I think. 😉
@basaenala11733 жыл бұрын
... growing shorter...😁😁
@chadkline42682 жыл бұрын
G-dammit, tall people need bikes too, and there really aren't many available! Stop demanding every bike be made for men under 6ft 🥴
@ler39682 жыл бұрын
@@chadkline4268sooo sorry dude, approx 12% of the general population (US-UK-EU) is over 6ft tall. So there is a bigger mkt for us wee shorties--and women too..Cheers
@chadkline42682 жыл бұрын
@@ler3968 thanks for the statistics. But 90-95% of motorcycles are made for men under 6ft. Only about 5% will fit a man over 6ft 2in. It's very difficult to buy a motorcycle if you are 6ft 3in or more, so if a few are tall, please don't take them away from us 👍
@JoseAlvarez-dl3hm5 ай бұрын
@@chadkline4268 you could always ask the agency for the biggest seat version available, which most meddium and bigger bikes have, most of the time, if not then you should make sure that there exist a decent aftermarket version for your bike.
@markusweber74455 ай бұрын
I have owned a versys 650 before, and I also tried VStroms on muliple occasions. Now I was looking for a used Versys or VStrom, bought a Versys again just because the Deal was great. They are really similar. The VStrom feels bigger and is a bit better with an Passenger the Versys is a bit better on Twisty Roads but if you like one of the Bikes you will like the other too…
@Cheezmonka2 жыл бұрын
Those 0-100 km/h times seem pretty high for both bikes in the unrestricted models. Were those times perhaps meant for the restricted versions?
@fuglbird7 ай бұрын
The size and placement of the exhaust is much better on the Versys. On the V-Strom fixed panniers are mounted on outside of the exhaust and the bike becomes very wide. Except for a topbox I would only use soft luggage on the V-Strom. Fuel consumption and reliability are better for the V-Strom.
@nwmi493Ай бұрын
i had a new 2015 Versys 1000 and the front end was like the feeling you have when your back from the dentist waiting for the novicane to wear off. Disconnected beyond belief. Couldn't wait to sell it.
@JohnDoe-xr5is3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 Versys 650. (Never been on the Vstrom) The bike is great for my non-off road riding, but it's biggest obstacle is it's high center of gravity combined with it's high seat height. (then add 40lbs of gas up high) The bike can be difficult to handle at parking lot speeds. It wants to tip..fast. But once you're over about 13mph....it's wonderful. Also, I would NEVER take it off road because of the high center of gravity. And I'll also admit, if I get another bike, I'll downsize to the Honda CB500X.
@deea26803 жыл бұрын
You have written this a number of times on youtube, I guess the Versys is too much for you!
@rafiqrza28 Жыл бұрын
Cb500 x the worst bike i ever had,on highway wobbling like crazy,not enough power like verys
@CaptainDangeax3 жыл бұрын
I actually owns a Versys 1000 since 2 years after owning a 650 Vstrom (first model) for 11 years. You didn't talk about duo and I think the VStrom is better suited for that than the little Versys. My big one is not in the same league
@dindoducay083 жыл бұрын
New subs here from Phillipines. I'll go for v Strom. Thank you for including ph conversion for the price.. More reviews sir Jack.. Godbless.. Ridesafe..
@vonoli26623 жыл бұрын
sir bakit parang walang gumagamit ng V strom dito sa PH? halos Versys lahat ng mga binibili. ano kaya ang edge ng V strom vs Versys?
@alucardlord90323 жыл бұрын
@@vonoli2662 kasi, tayong mga riders napapalingon sa mga patrollers na nakakasalubong natin , tapos namamangha tayo sa bike nila, kaya ayun versys nagugustuhan natin haha
@rrishi9973 жыл бұрын
Most of the clips are taken from Powerdrift indian and zigwheels india. Happy to see indian channels are impressing the global audience
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the passion you guys have for those ADV bikes! They have some of the best videos of the bikes out
@kwakkers683 жыл бұрын
I think K missed a trick here .. would have made sense to offer at least the option of a more O/R Versys - maybe parallel to the road biased one. I suppose the market-research pointed them to deliver what they've come up with .. but options are always appreciated. That said, the re-birth of the KLE will cover this anyway... so it's all irrelevant now
@paulwhite7475 Жыл бұрын
I would automatically go Suzuki before any other manufacturer. Nice to know in this market section its the best best too. Thanks for a good video . Please just stop calling it a Kawazaki
@paulsmith3487 Жыл бұрын
Yep! Can't argue that!
@ritabrataroy85233 жыл бұрын
Bro please do a comparison between BMW 1250 GS & KTM Super Adventure 1290
@rutwickgangurde32472 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the prices in INR, these two are getting very popular here these days.
@zeerolives40099 ай бұрын
the V-Strom 650 Adventure definitely seems like the better bike but i just can't get over the beak and the stacked headlights, personally I love the design of the Versys 650LT wayyyy more
@travelinben19662 жыл бұрын
Rubber mounted frame, less expensive,nicer front end, and no “beak.” Kawasaki👍🏻👍🏻
@DragoniteMotoJP3 жыл бұрын
Easy answer, Versys 650 and Tracer 7 don’t sell here in Japan, so V Storm 650 is the un-contested king at 2/3 the price of the Tenere 700. Sad times...
@OperationFoxley194413 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!! So the versys and tracer 7 is not sold in Japan?? That sucks, but yeah the v Strom is a great bike.
@alucardlord90323 жыл бұрын
Why versys is not sold in japan? Because of its big size?
@DragoniteMotoJP3 жыл бұрын
@@alucardlord9032 no, I don't know the reason but you can buy a versys 1000 here so size isn't the issue
@jsveiga3 жыл бұрын
When I got my V-Strom 650XT about a year ago it costed about the same as the Versys (Brazil). More recently, Suzuki went nuts and it's quite more expensive (R$52k vs R$41, or R$46 for the Versys Tourer, with every accessory available). I get 23-24.5 km/l in my tame commute routine.
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience, had no idea it was so much more expensive over there!
@daveh56253 жыл бұрын
What does that 55 hp lams model mean.
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
LAMS = learner approved motorcycle. Similar to A2 over in other parts of the world, just restricted power models for beginner riders
@kwakkers683 жыл бұрын
The bit people and reviewers tend to miss - the price of parts / the cost of servicing. I'm a Kwakkerist - but I do have 1 Suzook ... The Green parts are always cheaper, sometimes by quite a margin.
@juanfelipearango20293 жыл бұрын
Depends on were you live. In latin america, green parts are more expensive
@natural97433 жыл бұрын
V-strom all day long best handling Bullitt proof engine
@lcdubs78473 жыл бұрын
what is this "learner approved" thing? We don't have that in Canada. Is it convertible back to the full powered mode?
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
It's a restricted power model of the bike. Yea it's convertible back to full powered in most cases. Similar to A2 in other parts of the world
@lcdubs78473 жыл бұрын
@@Kwackajack Cool. We don't have A2 here either. I assume buying one of these models gives you a break on insurance? I kind of envy you Aussies, being about to ride a bike 12 months a year. Here, we need a bike for 4 months, a snowmobile for 5 months, and a 4 wheeler for the spring and fall.
@johnrenehan7406 Жыл бұрын
Good straight talking review guys 👌👌👌
@efremendez3 жыл бұрын
Funny didn't mention the vsteom nose dive when braking
@ricksilver7398 Жыл бұрын
I've been studying a lot of reviews and with a tire size change the Versy can be a formidable off road bike as well. All though both are awesome I would take the Versy
@mvjoshi3 жыл бұрын
Two years ago, I was at this crossroads junction. So, I test rode both bikes over a route identical to both. Highway tarmac, town concrete road, broken tarmac, dirt road, mixed gravel and potholed tarmac and then, on my return from work, in reverse order. And doing this after seeing the legions of videos here, there and everywhere praising the V Strom, the result was, for me, extremely disappointing. I had expected the V Strom to perform the way the videos had claimed it would. Unfortunately, it did nothing of the sort. So, what happened? 1. The aerodynamics of the Suzuki windscreen were just terrible, causing a turbulent, buffeting airflow at speeds above 80 kph. Not for the Kawasaki. 1. The front suspension on the Suzuki seemed non-existent. Zero feedback. And strangely for a bike touted as a soft adv, completely non-adjustable. The Kawasaki was leagues ahead with basic preload and compression adjustment. 3. The ground clearance of both bikes is said to be identical. It didn't feel that way on the Suzuki which threatened to impact the lips of even slightly deeper ruts and potholes. Not so the Kawasaki, which has no issues whatsoever. 4. The rear suspension on both bikes is too hard but the placement of the rear strut on the Kawasaki meant that it was easier to replace it with an aftermarket one. 5. Traction control, for me, is dangerous on an adv bike as it makes the rider depend more on electronics to mitigate his errors rather than motivate him to read the terrain, learn from it and ride safely over it. Thankfully, the Kawasaki doesn't have it, though I would have loved a switchable ABS rather than the airways on one currently doing duty on it. 6. In India, the Suzuki was priced about AUD 2400 more than the Kawasaki which is ridiculously high a difference. In conclusion, the 19 inch front and spoked wheels simply didn't justify the very high price differential nor the other, for me, serious deficiencies, and I bought the Kawasaki. Of course, to each his own. Peace 🙏🏼
@jjnich49153 жыл бұрын
I own a 2018 vstrom 650XT and I had the opposite experience. Tested 3 bikes. Tracer 900GT, Versys 650, V strom 650. Tracer being the most prospective choice and v strom was the least. The seat on the tracer was a rock so it was out of the question. The Kawasaki felt really cheap compared to the Suzuki and Yamaha and generally felt more sporty than adv probably because the parallel twin the big brother engine to the ninja 250. I am a Kawasaki guy my first bikes were all Kawi's but I got on the VStrom and it was comfy everywhere I sat and it's fuel economy is much better than the versys. The Vstrom sits a little higher than the versys so it was more comfortable as I am over 6 ft tall. Also at the time racks for cases were more sophisticated for the v strom compared to the versys just felt like the quality was better at the time (2018). The tall windshield was nice for me as I am taller slightly raising the stock height of the windshield gives me optimal protection from wind and I do not experience any head buffeting while I am on the highway. The make windshield extenders for the v strom too so even if it was a problem it's nothing $80 cant fix. I have owned the bike almost 3 years and gone on two big trips and honestly the Vstrom is a beast bike if you are going to tour with it or go off road. Still not had any major or minor failure. Have just done the basic service on the bike and it still runs like the day I rolled it out of the dealership and put it's first km on. I have put over 10000 miles on her now and needless to say I am happy with my decision. I think I purchased the best quality adv/sport bike in its class. Looking to buy a V Strom 1050 in a couple years so I can convert my 650 to off-road. Glad you like your versys though it really is a nice bike too. Cheers.
@thealvaco3 жыл бұрын
Good points made there.
@NunoFotografia3 жыл бұрын
Two years ago I was choosing the substitute for my CB500X. The V-Strom in paper seemed the right bike... I tested the versys and then when to try the V-Strom... When I was heading to th edealer I remember thinking that I was going to buy the Suzuki... 10 minutes in to the test ride of the V-Strom I was only thinking in giving it back and to go back to the Versys dealership to put an order on a Versys. Tech Sheeth are pointless if you don't ride the bikes...
@Jer08679 ай бұрын
4:14 What's this "rocking" you keep referring to??
@mickleblade3 жыл бұрын
Are you going to compare it the the new tracer 7? Or is that even available where you live.
@nickstevens31393 жыл бұрын
What about centrestands? They are essential for this kind of bike.
@Chelsea-cu1pw3 жыл бұрын
I like both of them
@FaxMe2Barbados3 жыл бұрын
sold the v-strom to get the versys. so far so good.
@actstuntcam3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, what makes it a better bike for you?
@repetitivemotion2 жыл бұрын
What’s with the restricted versions ?
@chenglongtan62602 жыл бұрын
Vstrom 650xt is it recommended for 6ft guys ? Worry will have an awkward leg posture while riding
@NeonKrossMusic2 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the Honda NC750X ?
@deepsouthNZ3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning a lap of Oz and I'm doing it on a strom, great comfort range and value
@Somchai0073 жыл бұрын
Amazing. What an adventure you will have!
@jehovawreggeles3934 Жыл бұрын
v-strom always over Verseys.....no doubt!
@robshef7183 жыл бұрын
They are both good looking bikes, though I like the solid rims on the Vstrom. Though both bikes really are nearly ID, in the torque area, I cant believe that the Torque specs for the Kawy (though with a bit more revs) are as high for the In line engine, as they are for the V engine, when the V's are known for their Torque. I think Kawy is fudging a bit. The Suzy has a racier sound, more throaty sound, where the kawy sounds like a two stroke on steroids. Both compete very well, but what kind of price you get, in the long run makes the better deal.
@Lazarus_Cain2 жыл бұрын
I've been around bikes for a long time I've never heard of the power restricted models you described why would that be a thing
@lachlancannard2 жыл бұрын
Licencing restrictions. Newer riders in Aus/NZ/UK are limited to what bikes they can ride. In Aus, nothing over 660CC or 150kW/t. I bought a V-Strom 650 LAMS model that is restricted to 47HP down from 71HP. When my Provisional period is over I'll decide if I want to unleash the extra horses or not.
@runningman316 Жыл бұрын
What does restricted and unrestricted mean?
@johnnyViDeO3 жыл бұрын
Good review. I can't decide, but I do more hwy riding than dirt, so the Kaw gets the edge. I'd like to see an expansion of the V-Strom line, offering 550, 950, and 1250 cc versions. I do like the stubby exhaust under the Kaw better, and the windscreen is easier to adjust. The V has better looks, IMHO. You can't go wrong with either, as they are both great fun and value for the money.
@Cheezmonka2 жыл бұрын
Everybody in every article says that the Versys 650 is "better on the road" but having ridden them both back to back multiple times I *really* don't see it.
@leosedf3 жыл бұрын
The versys is more Road oriented that's why I chose it. Very good for Europe. Both are very good but the versys is looking better.
@ChaosAI243 жыл бұрын
You should've compared with normal V-strom not XT, highway oriented, which, at least in europe, is 500 euros cheaper than Versys. In conclusion V-Strom is better than Versys given the fact that for the same price as Versys you have exactly what kawi moto is: versatility but this is V-Strom XT atribute.
@admiralbeez81433 жыл бұрын
We need the Yamaha Tracer 7 here in Canada. That'll eat some share from both the Versys and V-Strom. Coming on Yamaha, the markets is there.
@chadkline42682 жыл бұрын
I dislike V engines because they seem inherently unbalanced, even if they have primary perfect balance. Engine configuration alone does not affect power and torque output; tuning and effective engine management are far more responsible for the result that actually reaches the rear wheel. When the V is front to back, the rear cylinder is under different operating conditions than the front and wear is not symmetrical. And they are often more difficult to work on. V engines allow for a slimmer bike, but parallel allow greater flexibility in frame design. It's a good strategy for Kawi to make a single engine that is used across many models. It helps in parts availability, cost, and refinement.
@tduggan253 жыл бұрын
There's supposed to be about 14cm difference in wheelbase between the two, was this noticeable when riding?
@floridaboy77873 жыл бұрын
you got purdy good content man .............. subbed !!
@Kwackajack3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@floridaboy77873 жыл бұрын
@@Kwackajack the cool thing about you is you leave it up to the viewer witch bike they like better ............... unlike others (yammy noob) who are trying to push their views on to people watching .............
@cat_daddy3 жыл бұрын
Restricted- unrestricted does this pertain to the riders license or experience ??
@bobfallis3 жыл бұрын
Based on sheer looks alone, the Versys wins by a mile in my book. Will be buying one in approximately 6 months, so I am unabashedly biased.
@alainremi2673 жыл бұрын
Great & thanks but for the same price I would choose the Yamaha MT07 🤩🤩🤩
@chrishart85483 жыл бұрын
I imagine the mt-07 would be a fair bit less expensive than these bikes. Think the tracer 700 is a bit more money but it's lighter and more powerful.
@StephenJohnson-jb7xe3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the XT700? If so it is about 4k more expensive than the V-Strom. These aren't really the bikes to be comparing to a MT07
@chrishart85483 жыл бұрын
@@StephenJohnson-jb7xe all very true
@douglasalexander43483 жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 mt07 TRACER is comparable to these, since very few on these two will actually go off-road.
@chrishart85483 жыл бұрын
@@douglasalexander4348 has just as much off road ability as the versey's that's for sure.
@oldmanjudo62412 жыл бұрын
I like both, but for 2012 the style and handling of the Versys was my choice. I still ride it, and it still puts a smile on my face every time I do.
@vdhazer3 жыл бұрын
I think you are a Kawasaki fan, Jack. I have seen many comparisons between Kawasaki and other brands. I'm also a Kawasaki fan, Ducati comes second on my list.
@izradesign3 жыл бұрын
I have both 650, Strom and versys, not much different between performance and handling, but more comfortable and confident with Strom.
@akgyadizagaskeun37323 жыл бұрын
V strom looking good👍👍
@frankiecalsone85363 жыл бұрын
V-Strom ✅
@geekstar29373 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference between the two is that V-Strom has a traction control. I would prefer the Versys otherwise, but the lack of traction control is a dealbreaker when you can have it on V-Strom.
@MrDAVIDRACE2 жыл бұрын
I have both bikes the Suzuki wins hands down with that great V twin engine and 43 mill forks.