DC Comics Sales Hit Terrifying New Lows

[@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420]

I can sum up everything wrong with the comic industry in one sentence: My entire perception of Marvel and DC is bad comics written to intentionally piss me off by people who hate me. Good luck rehabilitating that image.

[@rgsniper2]

As a collector for over 40 years, I hear you. I dropped Marvel and DC and now just sit back and watch the dumpster fire they are.

[@RobertBaker-cg4md]

I agree as well. I spend a lot of money weekly on comics from the 70's to about 2018. Never thought I would see the companies continuously fail for so long and refuse to change anything. Just double down on what they know doesn't work. At least I have my old boxes of comics from when it was good. And now the movies and series aren't saving them which I think they thought was going to go on forever.

[@harryrao4296]

yet marvel still sells more

[@bigtomboye]

Indeed, nothing (nothing!) could ever drag me back to DC Marvel or Hollywood/tv etc

[@leonbeale5431]

Nailed it

[@REDALERTUSA]

Mark Bagley and I did a quick run on Batman Detectives years ago. I was already busy in the Bat office and worked on the issue before the run with Ed Benes. That sampling of five books sold between 180k to 160k. To hear Batman sells under 100k….WTF DC!!!!

[@ContrarianHomo]

I am not surprised by this at all. I closed my store back in December and hadn’t sold DC comics for 3 years prior and never had anyone questioning it. Jim Lee was the worst thing to ever happen to DC comics

[@choostopher5018]

Damn this is terrible to read. Sorry to say I can foresee a time in the not too distant future where no comic stores will be viable and even those really overpriced pop culture stores with a dusty compressed comic section replace the remaining space with a softdrink vending machine.

[@comicslinger]

​@@choostopher5018There's always Back Issues

[@comicslinger]

Today is new Comic Book Day and I've sold more in Back Issues than New Comics

[@SebastianEnamorado-ql4rh]

Jim Lee is a parasite

[@captainscomicsandcomments8079]

I'm sorry you closed your shop. That sucks

[@kalgrove6426]

I was spending a little over 100.00 a month on DC books until 2018 bc the quality plummeted. I didn't leave DC...DC left me. Same with Marvel.

[@spaceknight793]

They didn’t just leave us… they intentionally ran us off.

[@sbgraider4293]

Well....when you turn Robin gay, and Harley Quinn gay, and the son of Superman gay, and Wonder Woman gay...... ...

[@snakebrown3755]

@@sbgraider4293 No, no. If you don't like all your superheroes gay, that just means you're a raging homophobe/bigot/racist/Hitler. Or so they tell me...

[@rgsniper2]

I hear you, at the height of my collecting I was buying around 130 titles a month. Pretty much all the good stuff from marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse, Malibu.... I would not only say they left me, but the new crowd basically told me to get lost as comics were no longer for me....

[@sembarangjaknama]

DC didnt left you. they chase you out.

[@michaelhinton2738]

Paying $5 or more for a new book has really turned me off

[@stevebarnes8368]

Same here. About five years ago, I was picking up about 20 different titles every month and then a lot of mini series and one offs too. The quality went down and the price went up. I went by to pick up an issue just as I was waiting to go to the cinema - it was just an issue of Predator vs Wolverine, Number 3 I think. Couldn’t believe it, I was charged €9.50

[@michaelhinton2738]

@stevebarnes8368 their greed is gonna kill the industry..I buy spawn books cuz their always $3 wich I think is a fair price for a normal issue

[@Improbi]

Reading so many horrible new comics for so many years from the mainstream may be your body telling you "No more please". Look at Dok, he's given up on new comics & he seems more chipper, has more money in his pockets & now has a social life with a girlfriend. Hope it's nothing serious & you get well soon Wes.

[@JosephMathews-j7i]

Charging $4.99 and printing on paper thats equivalent to gift wrap also cant be helping any.

[@MaineiacleWis]

That's my issue it seems the artists are above using ads nowadays and I agree with you on the paper it's not necessary not once in my life do I ever recall and add detracting from my enjoyment of reading a comic book

[@bigtomboye]

Bad stories, over-priced!

[@jumu446]

The price of new comics is ridiculously high. Between £3 and £6 for a monthly 20 page comic is extortionate.

[@peterparker-q1q]

20 pages outdated, 60 pages must be minimum for $5

[@davids2427]

W0rD 💥

[@maxmazzotti6651]

It’s surprising to see an industry ignore fresh, new talent and proven veterans with idiots who never understood or cared about the stuff they make

[@jacob7027]

I think a big problem is distribution, you can basically only get comics in specialist stores or online. Comics need to get back into convenience stores, gas stations ext to get new blood interested again.

[@RyanMoran-wy1ip]

This you get no impulse buys and as a newbie I want backstory so the $8 monthly sub looks more attractive than the new stuff. Which I always hear is bad.

[@sebastianstark8517]

DC has been in bad shape for a long time, because of the people in charge not caring about the product. Shrinking sales is a direct result of that. Regarding your vertigo - may want to get that checked out. Sometimes that symptom can be a precursor to other things.

[@EvandroACruz]

Since the N52 DC never was the same again.

[@toddholland7511]

DC reboots their universe every year or two. It’s not Crisis on Infinite Earths anymore,it’s “Tuesday”. They need to reboot their writers,editorial,and Jim Lee.

[@JosephPeluso-ce4tm]

DC Comics hired people who chose agendas over stories. Instead of wowing us with impactful stories and adventures of the world's greatest super-heroes, they adopted the narrative of finger-pointing and deconstruction. Now sales and interest have cratered. Gee, I wonder why? Soon DC Comics will be irrelevant. They won't missed. But much more importantly, feel better, Wes.

[@ComicBookMuscle]

I believe the damage has been so extensive that those who would have written great stories for DC and Marvel are demoralized and uninterested in attempting to bail the water out of these sinking ships. All the young talent have been inspired by Manga and are learning that style of crafting comics, rather than western comics. If they think because someone went and watched Deadpool or Joker that someone would be inspired to write for comics boy are they way out of touch.

[@daveassanowicz186]

I realized that DC was done during the Venditti Hawkman run. Great title, no one (not enough) people cared, including the company making it. They refused to promote it. More interested in pushing 'Bendis Is Coming' and he demolished Superman & Co.

[@davidmghilardi]

Hope you feel better, Wes! Sometimes vertigo is caused by increased sugar intake.

[@molo1122]

They need to fire all editors hiring these clowns.

[@ContrarianHomo]

@@molo1122 they need to keep working their way up the ladder and fire the people who hired the editors

[@ddwkc]

@@ContrarianHomo Sadly these bozos are the bobs at the top. They can't be fired.

[@LtDanHasNoLegs]

I feel that taking Jeremy Adams off of the Flash was one of the worst decisions DC has made in recent years. He made me love the Flash again. It would have been great to see him write both the Flash and Green Lantern.

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

Hey, you hired people who don’t know or care about these characters and this is the end result.

[@comicbookninja5268]

Can they fire Jim Lee already???

[@cosmiccry6675]

Jim Lee has NO sense of running a business. He started his own company with not even wanting to hire other people to „save“ money and doing all himself. Watch the Image videos out there and you can read between the lines of all interviews Jim Lee has only one interest: MONEY!

[@Theoryofeverything88]

There's no saving them at this point.

[@HasturYellowSign]

Maybe they should require all their people to go through the Will Eisner books and Wally Woods 22 panels that always work before they're allowed to touch any of the main characters.

[@MutantGenius]

Then it's even more hilarious that My Adventures w/ Superman and Shazam have both had their cover prices increased to 4.99! Like ...who's gonna buy those now?

[@sembarangjaknama]

Comic version of MAWS were ugly.

[@charlesharrison1907]

There’s no leadership at the wheel and they keep hiring the same fail writers. Jim Lee is just riding the wave until he retires. There are plenty of good comic writers out there

[@doctorogre1777]

Man, take care of yourself. You're literally the LAST comics related media I track (including actual comics). I'm way more concerned about your health than DC's health.

[@nWoJeffDW]

My Adventures with Superman isn’t a Superman series. It’s a DEI reimagined version of Superman’s world.

[@fm1668]

Superman is so soyed up in that show. Not to mention butch Lois Lane😂

[@troypeterson2156]

but not neeaarly as bad or as much so as it couldve been or i ever wouldve suspected / expected (at least refering to the cartoon). similarly with superman and lois show. especially considering whos making it.

[@Slugger-ns9sd]

Where did you right ring mongos learn this DEI buzzword? It's become the new 'woke'.

[@EvandroACruz]

After injustice and Snyderverse Superman we need a version that is a symbol of hope and compasion again.

[@Skywalker3248]

To be fair, I heard Superman & Lois was pretty good on the whole. Have been intending to check it out​

[@locusmortis]

I'm a Superman fan but I dropped Action Comics because they replaced Williamson with Gail Simone and she's just a horrible writer, plus they kept putting "woke" writers in the backup slots recently. And I'm absolutely not buying My (gay) Adventures with Superman, it just looks awful.

[@arturoalvarezkawai6773]

I believe the problem with the current comic book industry, particularly the big two publishers, is multiplefold. First, is the corporate acquisitions that are now allowing Marvel and DC disregard results and rely on other divisions of Disney and WB to cover their losses. Second, is the switch from market of customers (the ordinary reader) to market of investors (BlackRock, Vanguard), that promotes DEI and ESG culture instead of the all fashione, tested and proven, "customer is always right" culture, which at the same time reinforces the first one. And third, enabled but the previous two, is the bunch of psychopaths and underachievers being hired, who have no love for the genre, no idea how to write or draw comics, don't even have work ethics, but whose commitment with "the Message" ensures them a position. I said this before, Wes: I believe the industry as we knew it is beyond saving, and that the future lies on small independent publishers and crowdfunding, at least while the current situation continues.

[@waynetech10]

To use an old phrase, they've poisoned the well. Even if a decent book squeaks through, an unexpected gem, you know the DCU, as a whole, has been brought to the ground, and it isn't worth investing in. Reading Absolute Power pretty much confirmed it. I liked the art, but the characters, as they've been handled over the years, are not very likeable. In the past, when they got a team together, even with all the different units, JLA, JSA, Titans, etc, there wasn't this level bickering, and there was no feeling of excitement, seeing all these legends working together. They've managed to make the Trinity just basic heroes. How does one do that? I love DC. Truly. But without back issues, they'd offer nothing to read.

[@bobmularky7456]

That Flash ranking is just sad.

[@fernandomata3425]

Kneel before Zod was very good, bit was cut short very early and all his interesting plots went nowhere.

[@batdadwholaughs]

I'm trying to get into DC...really. But it's tough with the new stuff. I'm going back to Silver for now to read up bc it's just a much more familiar and comfortable read. On another note, you take care of you, Wes. Sometimes you gotta shake and bake your way past problems.

[@JUGO1979]

Get better, Wes. We need you dude! DC needs to seriously look at and accept their situation. Get rid of the dead weight and get back to making comics FOR the people who care about their characters BY creators who LOVE these characters!

[@harryrao4296]

yet marvel is still outselling them @Jugo1979

[@harleybtasfan90s]

That's what happens when you have awful writers.

[@johnconnor7407]

like Tom king?😂

[@ziomisawpaliblant4430]

Is he that bad? His Grayson, Supergirl, The Omega Men, Mister Miracle, Swamp Thing, Strange Adventures, Human Target, Vision, The Sheriff of Babylon were all great. His Batman had moments but obviously was destroyed by editorial interference ​@@johnconnor7407

[@harleybtasfan90s]

​@@johnconnor7407yeah😂

[@TVPopCulture]

Well let’s take a look at why: Changed the sexuality of long running characters for no reason whatsoever Event, after event, after event Miss leading fans and then last minute changing characters/teams for no reason other than to get the kids reading. What kid is reading Legion of Superheroes? Randomly changing the price tag

[@zzodysseuszz]

Let’s talk about when comics were still good: who else dislikes the retcon made to the phoenix, turning it into a cosmic being seperate from Jean grey

[@Karl_Burton]

Well if introducing a gay Superman didn't work, what will

[@me-li8kd]

Trans Amazons

[@kitescuriosities7717]

I was thinking Trans-Transformers, ​@@me-li8kd. 😄

[@Male_Ficent]

Gay Batman.

[@Karl_Burton]

@@Male_Ficent 😁

[@thechinchillachannel8457]

Batman is my favourite charcater. I find Zdarsky's run unreadable right now. I was excited when Ram V was announced on Detective, but I could not take it anymore after the first 15 issues or so - it was a total snooze fest. I generally love DC, but other than very few enjoyable titles, DC has been on life support since pre-covid. Didio slowly destroyed the line following Johns' demotion and departure and then proceeded to put the nail in the coffin with "Future State". DC has never really recovered. Dawn of DC started out decently well, but got derailed by "Knight Terrors" and felt like "DC Rebirth lite".

[@EvandroACruz]

Yes, Rebirth was Dc latest chance to fix themself and Diodio ruined all in the end. There's no more hope to DCU at this point.

[@torcer]

I had bad vertigo from inner ear damage leading to hearing loss that was caused from a virus. Go to an ENT specialist ASAP

[@Blackstorm99]

I can sum up up comics in general right now. They are going the way of blockbuster and pay phones. 1. They need to introduce people to variety of characters in movies and shows both animation and live action to get younger readers. Look how Blade, she hulk, moon knight, Daredevil get temporary increases when projects are announced or released. 2. Need to simplify stories and stop time travel, multiverse and cosmic level stories and get back to simple grounded problems 3. Characters need limits. Need a reason to see a cover and be concerned for the hero / villain fight. 4. Establish a stable Justice League team and stick with it. Seems like JL is changing roster every week. Superman, Batman, Flash, WW, John Stewart, Hawkgirl, Manhunter, Vixen, Canary, Green Arrow.

[@sembarangjaknama]

this. Multiverse has become overused and I probably vomit if they ever mention it after this.

[@Rorysammy]

Check your B12 level, low B12 leads to vertigo and dizziness. A shot will get you fixed quickly

[@SnakeNel]

Hope you get better, Wes! All of your points appear valid. Joining the huge pile-on Jim Lee, I'll share that he will be appearing at a comic convention in Houston on the first weekend of October. He's appearing with his son, who is promoting his new comic. I don't know if they are appearing at other conventions for the same purpose. While that makes Lee a good dad, you would think, as the President, Publisher, and Chief Creative Officer, he would be working long hours at DC HQ to buoy up the sinking ship. Of course, that's assuming he has a clue. Bringing back writers like Robert Venditti and Peter J. Tomasi - and paying them a fair wage - would be a great start.

[@Philosophical24]

Hope you begin to feel better Wes! This channel is a highlight of my day

[@Wes_From_TC]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@danieltinnirello2013]

I’m not surprised what Dead Comics publishes anymore. I stopped buying anything that Dead Comics publishes.

[@CO2Giger]

If a company puts out bad products and services, they will get terrible sales.

[@benjfischer]

My situation has that I basically can't buy new comics. I have a few comic book shops close by but they only have about 10% of the store dedicated to new comics. And I can pretty much guarantee that I won't find anything like the latest "Batman" or "X Men" in that section. Forget about Wonder Woman or Daredevil or any of the lesser titles.. And if I do happen to find a Superman or Spiderman book, it's not really "Superman" but "Absolute Superman" or "Superman in Space" or "Spiderman Ultimate" or "Spiderman And The Wonder Twins" or something. And it's not much better online since DC and Marvel let their comics sit a few months before they are available on their respective apps. I can get a fairly recent book on Amazon but that leads to the same problem with all the different versions of the main characters. Maybe everyone shows up on Wednesday and buys their books and then nothing's left when I wander over on the weekend, but I'm not flocking to the store on a single day to stand in line for the last grubby copy of Spiderman. I don't know how ANYONE is buying comic books.

[@NJ-eo2oc]

WW is not a lesser title. its literally a trinity and one of the flagship title. if only they brought Rucka back on the title it would have been flawless.

[@ascorvinus]

If a rising tide lifts all boats, then I suppose by the same token, a sinking ship drags the fleet down. I would love it if the comic industry was healthier, but at this point, even if they replaced all the incompetent editors and bad writers with fresh talent, I don’t know if it would help. I don’t know what it’ll take to move the needle. Anyway, I hope you feel better soon, Wes.

[@longtsun8286]

Fans are the "wood" the boats are made of, and which allow the boats to float. Attack the "wood," and the boats sink. You know what this means. "Sex sells!" "Fight the male gaze!" "If you don't give me what I want, then I won't give you my money." "No!" You'd think the comic book publishers would LEARN.

[@robertday4390]

I’m sad that the Flash has had such a massive fall from grace after the terrific work Jeremy Adams had poured into it. DC need writers who respect the rich histories of their characters and are capable of delivering stories to get readers excited again on a monthly basis.

[@superfunforce8052]

Not surprised. Im buying and reading select DC comics from the beginning until the 80s and early 90s. But I did splurge and buy the McGuinness Batman-Superman issues. But that’s the most modern I’m going to get 💯💯💯

[@Zanaax25]

People are not buying because they are not taking chances anymore. With subpar writing/art and with your average book nowadays is 4.99 it’s not worth getting 1/6 of a story because every book is written for a trade. I miss the days of 1 book 1 story. There is no reason for a 4.99 price

[@fm1668]

I’m new to reading comics, and when I was reading old floppies recently I was shocked how every individual issue wraps up a good story in itself than can tie into a bigger plot/story. Compare that to the sh*t there putting out today.

[@JosephMathews-j7i]

Plus, the paper quality nowadays. It's like they're printing on gift wrap.

[@O_G_HELLBOY]

Very few of the "All In" books look interesting enough to bother with. 😔

[@akaBoG]

Very, very few.

[@tstockel]

It's not just the comics.When All Out Avengers came out I jokingly said on the store's web site that I think this might be Marvel's answer to the mostly gay and bisexual Justice League comic they were publishing. The comic shop's owner, who I have known since he was ten years old, who took over the business after his Dad died, a business I've been buying comics from since 1983, instead of saying something like "lame" or posting an eye roll emoji, chastised me on my "insensitiviy". Screw that guy. If he can't take a joke then he doesn't need my business.

[@Slugger-ns9sd]

You're the asshole in this scenario, bud.

[@Rancoroth419]

LoL, I remember when Crisis on Infinite Earths was hard to follow, Seriously, today, it's not even worth following.

[@GartheKnightReturns]

Hope you feel better soon Wes. If it keeps up or you display any other symptoms get yourself checked out. You’d be surprised what could be happening in your noggin causing this if it goes unchecked. I’d avoid any modern DC or Marvel comics too. Could be potentially exacerbating your condition.

[@notyouraverageharleyquinnstan]

I'm not surprised at all😒

[@YellowfinGrouper]

Why would I buy a comic these days. There is no text to read, just speech bubbles, and not even many of them and it takes almost no time to read a comic. With writers like Roy Thomas on Conan or Chris Claremont on X Men you had something which was cheap to buy but gave you a lot of reading. I spend all my money on collected editions of Bronze Age reprints.

[@EvandroACruz]

Take care your health Wes. I seee that any DC book stayed in the Top 10 comic book sales of the past month. Batman 150 figured in the 23° position. DC are in a very dire situation right now. They have good wrtiers like Mark Waid that is able to write good comics but in another side we have hacks like Tom King that ruins every character that he touches.DC must lost your saless to Energon Universe and Geoff Johns Ghost Machine books in a near future.This is a very serious situation.

[@MassEffectFan-fe8mo]

I really want a Robert Venditti Green Lantern Omnibus

[@StevenMckee1980]

I'm doing a Superman readthrough from Crisis to New 52 and i am currently up to Superman Ending Battle story arc. in this arc Amanda Waller is on tv debating a guy who is anti metahuman. Waller is pro metahuman I mean, surely they could have came up with someone rather than Waller to fill this role in AP. Waller has been shoved down our throats for too long to the point nobody cares about her anymore. I can only assume the fact that shes getting her own tv series is why she is the focal big bad of the DC universe at the moment. I am enjoying AP, its one of the few events i haven't switched off to while reading but DC has big problems and im not sure even the Absolute Universe is going to help at this point.

[@EvandroACruz]

Waller have the same treatment that Maxwell Lord had in the 2000's.

[@treymykel]

Hey Wes did you hear that yo bestie Tom King is at it again with Black Canary Best of the Best lol

[@garycannon4644]

What did tom do now?

[@treymykel]

@@garycannon4644 He's going to be doing a limited run on Black Canary trying to show why she's the best hand to hand fighter in the DC Universe face off against lady Shiva and if we know Tom King he's going to destroy her before it gets any kind of better lol

[@YTLawnGnome]

The scary thing is the Core Absolute Power story is actually pretty good. I mean I know lots of people have their issues with Mark Waid the things he is doing for DC, along with Jeremy Adams, Josh Williamson and Phillip Kennedy Johnson they are writing decent stuff. But, they are just a small piece of a larger underperforming pie. I am pretty excited for the new JSA and New Gods books along with JLU.

[@thebibliophilering8881]

Latest issue of Batman was an event tie in and, as per usual with tie ins, it fucking sucked! We've been trained as customers to have low expectations. It stings more to spend a fiver on a dud comic than it does to watch a bad episode of a TV show. You're still paying for that bad TV episode (subscription costs etc) but it's a microtransaction. A dud comic makes me feel like I should grow up and drop this hobby. TV and videogames have a commitment to quality that comics don't have. They take their customers for granted. It'll only hurt them in the end.

[@jordansupremes]

IMO one of the biggest problem they have is you can’t order DC subscriptions online. You have to go to a shop to get it and do not have the luxury of having titles delivered to your door. I would have multiple title subscriptions right now if they had that option.

[@Oeeshik]

DC did very poorly from the late 60s to early 90s. Batman as a comic was never that popular and would have been cancelled without Adam West's tv show. It was only until Batman 1989 came out did Batman start selling well. Then over the years the amount of adaptions like The Animated Series to the Nolan Films made Batman become a big seller. X-Men doing better than Batman isn't that surprising since X-Men was the best selling comic for 2 decades straight and most of the 90s. The only DC comic to be a top seller while Marvel dominated was John Byrne's Superman series. However DC screwed up Superman so badly his comics no longer top sales charts as he should be due to how iconic he is.

[@spaceknight793]

New Teen Titans did very well.

[@jlm19551965]

DC comics left me years ago. I had an idea building off what Morrison did. Trap Bruce back in the fifties and as he uses knowledge of the future he rebuilds his life as Batman fighting crime without all the gadgets and tech. Dick and Damien are again Batman and Robin

[@cobblestonefun6268]

New to the channel and returning to comics after 20 years. Love DC. Like Marvel. Find myself only wanting back issues these days when i go into the shop. Why? Better stories. Purer characters. Nostalgia. Same price as new ones. Sad to hear about DC sales. Even sadder...no Justice League! WTF My fix: Drop paper quality and price to 1.99 Publish 10 titles and do them well. Superman Action Comics Batman Detective Comics Flash Green Lantern Wonder Woman Shazam Justice League of America Teen Titans

[@tiny_dan9184]

Wes, I went through a bout of vertigo this past spring. Go to your ear, nose and throat doctor, explain your symptoms. I have crystals that got out of whack, and it was easy to deal with the fix. Definitely get that looked at with an ENT specialist

[@sbgraider4293]

Well, I guess DC needs to do yet another universe-wide reset!!!

[@eLWacKaZ]

I'm just so tired of the new Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy being her simp every time they are together loll If I'd want to read fanfiction, I'd write my own. I'm only following Batman because I'm too far in now and the new Dark Knight of Steel Allwinter because its only a 6 issues mini series about a Medieval Deathstroke so this seems hard to fail loll

[@sviadoiv]

Here in Vegas, one of the comic book store that I used to go closed last month. Another one is closing soon (they started the closing sale yesterday 8/23/2024). The reason could be anything but I think it’s cause new books sucks and a lot of people don’t want to buy garbage.

[@EricOSullivan]

Hope you’re feeling better soon, Wes. I’m having difficulty getting excited to make content due to my recent bad news so I hear ya. But I’ll endure and I won’t quit. I know you won’t either. Let me know how I can help, buddy. Cheers.

[@jacob7027]

Hope you’re well soon pal. I’ve been experiencing something similar recently and it’s really not pleasant. All the best.

[@ellesse3862]

Hope you're ok, vertigo isn't pleasant. Shame DC are intent on crashing, editorial apathy and talentless gibronis coupled with hemorrhaging the talented creators and poor decisions has lead to this. Phenomenal effort will be required to crawl from this ever deepening hole, finally tapping the archive back catalog is a start but even DC Finest cant save this sinking ship alone.

[@t-bowdude6631]

I remember I was in a shop and saw a new DC title that looked good, but I thought "why bother, it will be in the 50c bin in a year." Same goes for new marvel stuff. I'd take a chance on a new issue more often if I hadn't been burned so many times by these companies.

[@erickkorpi]

There's a lot of bad blood between creators and DC. They hoped adding Marie would help smooth stuff over but it didn't. They want to build this crossover into this new initiative so they revealed everything important is in the finale so they are just waiting til the end and possibly reading the tpb. The DC offices have a sword over their heads. No one knows when they are being sold again. When's the next cut coming? Now there's this event and it's not generating the buzz it should...especially since they know it's going to link back at somepoint and be irrelevant. DC is trying to be trendy, but they don't know how to be so they are trying to go back to basics but none of them know how to. 90% failure across the board. But that nothing there is over 200k, it's really 100% failure.

[@darkadmiralmarchhare1132]

Hope you are feeling better soon Wes,prayers.

[@terrywalters4917]

Badly cast movies have helped kill the comic industry. Constantly blackwashing and reimagining classic characters, lore and concepts. There is no sense of continuity or respect for the source material.

[@MerrimanDevonshire]

Wes... not surprised at the news, as those 140 stores may represent a significant portion of remaining stores that we may not want to admit. 😢

[@popculturerocks]

I noticed. Comics are in HUGE trouble.

[@brianlabelle9543]

These numbers are further skewed by the fact that collectors like myself are purchasing 4-6 copies per month of Flash & Titans to have all the variants in our collections. Whatever the sales are, actual readers are at least half of those numbers.

[@misternegative4918]

I think there’s a lot more good titles than most people on KZbin actually like there are. I really just don’t see how smaller characters sell without a huge creative team with how expensive comics are, I love all of the books I get every month, but I’m going to have to cut back a lot because I can’t afford $40 a week on comics. First books to go will normally be the books that aren’t the big important characters. I also think a lot more people have gone digital than anyone really knows.

[@DubleDubs]

I'm sure I've mentioned this here before but I cancelled my DC pulls a few months back. The update is I sold off the last 13 years (new 52 forward) out of my collection at our garage sale last week. The only books I get right now are the Energon universe and Hellboy and I didn't get anything for Hellboy the last time. Don't know what that's about. As for the vertigo, I guess there's another kind of stroke that doesn't present itself like a normal stroke, so you might want to get checked out and make sure it's not something like that.

[@patrickmoreau7592]

It’s too bad because I like Shazam I guess I’ll have to stop buying it. DC might be ready to go out of publishing Btw this is a good video I hope you feel better

[@MinPhase]

Throughout the years I lived in California during the DC Tuesdays era, all the comic stores in the area refused to sell DCs on Tuesdays, and every time they would mess up my order or under ordered some book, there was no way of fixing it. Because not only were they running 3 hours behind the east coast, now they were also a day behind. So by the time I got to the store in the evening, the excess stock at the distributors was already gone. I do sympathize with the stores as they had a system, with hired part timers for extra help on Wednesdays, and an extra day would cost them more so they chose not to do it. I get it, but it kinda just shows how hard it is in the industry to change things around and try something new..

[@wmwhitedevil]

I'm in Cali also, but where I'm at, we have stores that went to selling everything on Tuesdays when that happened, works for us, no complaints.

[@MinPhase]

That’s great! Then it must be a problem only in my area

[@MikeRitiques]

I'm only buying GL at the moment. DC hasn't been great since 2018

[@trevormaurer3684]

I am surprised 1 in 3 are still viable

[@skatingsam96]

Dc rebirth was the last good thing dc did. And they absolutely screwed it all up

[@berkfamily54]

The difference is there’s an entire generation of fans that grew up with the MCU so they only care about marvel. It’s sad. I only collect dc for the most part. My entire pull is dc outside of power rangers and TMNT.

[@berkfamily54]

Why don’t u like mark Waid? Dude is an amazing writer.

[@berkfamily54]

Campbell is a terrible writer. She destroyed the tmnt universe.

[@tcnkal]

Don’t know if it’s the same thing but my wife and many others around here tested positive for Covid. They all had vertigo and in some cases, it was extreme. Hope you feel well soon.

[@Skywalker3248]

Given the dire state of Warner Discovery, which is closing down or selling off divisions and is talking about licensing out their games following the poor performance of Suicide Squad I think DC could be in real trouble. I think there's more than a chance of someone from Discovery just coming in and cutting all the titles down to maybe Batman, Superman and one or two others. Or just outright shutting DC down effectively and licensing out the titles completely (just like they're talking about with their gaming division). If DC wants to avoid it (I don't know anymore if people like Jim Lee do) they need to stop copying Marvel (particularly on things that are obviously already failing for Marvel when DC decides to do them) get talent who love the characters (and understand them), and focus on those key characters. As with Rebirth get Superman right, then expand from there (and don't destroy the good thing DC when you have it again). Crazy times when the possibility of DC actually collapsing and ending in the next few years doesn't seem that unlikely.

[@ZiKoN22]

I'm glad Venom War is #4 on that chart and didn't sell as well. Al Ewing doesn't deserve to be an any title imo, he sucks. Idk why Dan Jurgens isn't writing more at DC. He's a great writer! People really liked his Batman the First Knight mini-series.

[@gavsmi6452]

It's all the new X-Men you're reading. Try reading some 90s stuff, that should set you right! Haha Nah but seriously, hope you feel better.

[@nikob7428]

Huge Superman fan here. I loved Rebirth but haven’t been back since Bendis. What is unthinkable to me is how Steve Rude, a veteran professional and phenomenal artist, was not allowed to be a regular artist in the book because he informed editorial tat he would be drawing in the style of Joe Shuster, which would have looked amazing. He didn’t want to conform, so he decided to go elsewhere. New 52 had already chased me away from most of the books and I’m sure there have been many missteps since. But you have to also say that, if nothing else, whoever is picking the talent over there is really doing a lousy job.

[@glarepherson]

Not a DC fan but want to help getting the enhancement up..these companies need to publish less books for awhile and get some top talent to revive the charecters ..both marvel and DC have been hiring these writers gor weird fan fiction

[@Nyctophora]

I hope you feel better!

[@martinadams8877]

Both companies should cancel 60% of their titles and try to focus on quality. I had vertigo (not the comics) for a week a few years ago. Wasn't nice but it went on its own. Take care.

[@theragoooverlord5021]

I enjoy Green Arrow (except the dei legion appearance in issue 3). Wes, G willow Wilson should not be let near western comics

[@MandatoryReporter2015]

From 1970 to 2018, the majority of comics I bought were DC and Marvel. Now I only buy Image and independents. Unthinkable.

[@harleylab9552]

DC has nearly lost me. I only have Nice House by the Sea on my pull list. Before that it was nothing for months. I'd be excited for a Swamp Thing ongoing, but DC sucks.