ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 - THE REVIEW

[@sparky12111980]

Upgraded from 2019 xps 15, screen Is amazing and just makes my work life easy, and play games on the side is a great bonus, highly recommended from My personal experience.

[@san6788]

What graphics card do you have??

[@maxtheflyingdutchman23]

Excellent review! Ordered mine today. As a side note, the carbon fibre weave is not per-se limited to the "high-end" systems, but to the high-end screens (4K ones). At least, on the European Lenovo site...

[@dorishsiao688]

I've decided to order this laptop after reviewing your reviews for a few different models. I still like the look and feel, and the functionalities. The quality of the webcam is not too much of a hindrance because I have an external webcam and I also use 2 big monitors through a docking station.

[@davidcrowe3486]

Nice review. I own the Gen 4 and love it and this has some great performance improvements. For those looking to buy, if Lenovo follows the pattern that they did with the Gen 4, the best sales on this will be earlier in November before the normal black Friday sales.

[@iSean1]

Spot on. I picked one up in early November before the normal black Friday sales just as you suggest and found it at a very reasonable price. Lenovo runs a lot of sales and has stackable coupons/discounts (including military, education, senior, and medical). Chatting online with their sales staff can often result in an even deeper discount than advertised. They know the "secret cheat code) to stacking the best discounts.🤣

[@danielscherger8158]

Finally found a review with the touchscreen, thank you looks super clear !!!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks!

[@williamcohen3351]

Nice PC. Port selection is good although they should move one of the USB-C ports to the other side and swap it with one of the USB A ports which there are two on the same side. Minor detail. Watching you handle this it appears to be not a fingerprint magnet on the outside but a big fingerprint magnet on the inside. Camera and mic appeared good. Display is very good. Camera and Mics are very good. This might seem a little pricey and it is although one appears to get great quality for the money. Great review.

[@RM-el3gw]

The value is not good regardless. Too expensive for what it is.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Nice review Andrew. I did hear from Jarrod's Tech that DDR5 x16 RAM isn't as troublesome as x16 DDR4 RAM. It might be important in VERY specific tasks that involve memory latency, but outside of that, the RAM in this laptop should be more than 99% of what you get with x8 DDR5. I also heard that 8 GB SO-DIMM sticks ONLY come in x16, so you'll need 16 GB DIMMs to get x8.

[@salimbinyussup9351]

So informative I like it Good job Andrew Thanks

[@AkachukwuMadueke]

your sense of humor and energy is admirable.

[@PQV-8898]

Hands down the best reviewer anywhere. Love this laptop with the carbon weave. Lenovo Thinkpad is definitely my favourite laptop and the X1 Extreme G5 is simply gorgeous.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks really appreciate it

[@san6788]

This is absolutely true

[@PKperformanceEU]

Is it better than a M1max 16?

[@san6788]

@@PKperformanceEU separate but equal

[@PKperformanceEU]

@@san6788 well, my Mac cost 3900usd, for this much i could get a P1 gen5 12900h rtx 3080ti QHD 32GB

[@thomasmadden3080]

Incredible quality, appreciate how comprehensive this was

[@jianyuhua]

I’m gonna buy it in black Friday, let’s go

[@senchamvp5399]

You got yourself a very good deal in the shop at 1:51. I tried it today and the best coupon sums up to 4600. With your coupon I would have ordered it right away ;)

[@jamesirby2248]

Nice video, I am debating between two Lenovo models, the P16s current Generation and the X1 Extreme current Generation. Thanx again

[@michaelbyrd4004]

Another desktop replacement, wrapped up in a Thinkpad shell. I really appreciate these. No, you do not have to buy a desktop to get desktop performance. That is great! However, power, heat and fan noise are still issues that x86 systems encounter. Arm innovation in the PC space is the next era. I'm looking forward to it. Apple is already there.

[@Traveler2sjournal]

😂

[@PutsOnSneakers]

Laptops just are not desktop replacements. Quit the debunked hype. There's no upgradability here, no off-the-shells replacement parts and no hardware choice flexibility. You're always going to be thermal throttled and you're always ending up with higher price tags to do something a desktop can do better for a considerable lower cost.

[@unlopx2780]

A frying pan, yes

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

Laptops are not desktop replacements. I have the high end Legion Pro with 13900HX and RTX4080 and it’s still barely half the performance of my desktop PC

[@tejiriamrasa3258]

@@little_fluffy_clouds The difference is you can carry serious power from place to place, something that can't easily be done with desktps

[@donoldduckben]

i got this laptop recentrly, the one with the 3060 and i upgraded the ram from single channel 32 gb to dual channel 64 gb, got a r23 score of just north of 17000

[@saul_bloom]

What do you think about this versus the P1 gen 5? They look identical. Interested in best keyboard. Also, is OLED better for using the touchscreen with pen? Thanks! Great review.

[@tomwiley3540]

I’ve had one of these for a few months in the same config except with the 165hz display. In theory I love the device but it’s been a lemon and will now be waiting 4-6 weeks for Lenovo to send out a replacement unit. 3 major failures. 1. Delivered with no thermal paste on the GPU causing severe throttling. 2. Stopped detecting SSDs, required a system board replacement. 3. After a 4 week wait got a replacement system board… and the 3070ti in it is faulty and crashes constantly. I feel like Lenovos QC has significantly dropped in recent years…

[@reverend_wintondupree]

Curious if you considered any other models or worth the gamble (to receive a non lemon) if you had to do over again.

[@tomwiley3540]

@@reverend_wintondupreeI cross shopped some HPs and Dells but nothing here in Aus came with an RTX3070ti in the same overall package. Didn’t help I have a Lenovo TB4 Workstation dock at work and home. Hoping for the best once the replacement device arrives…

[@reverend_wintondupree]

@@tomwiley3540 Thx, fingers crossed and good luck. Am almost exactly in the same boat as you. Am partial to Lenovo ironically because of past poor experiences with HP and Dell qc. Keep us posted!

[@howardl7101]

Nice review Andrew. What do you suggest for someone who needs a less business use laptop but wants Thinkpad quality in a 16 inch no numpad?

[@OrakKhan]

I pressed the like button at the “….. Coming uppppp!” Moment

[@kianVerdi]

I love the way you say: coming up!

[@brentc.6690]

Nice review as always, Andrew!

[@ARadicalCut]

I work in cybersecurity and am looking for a powerful machine that can handle running multiple VM's and such. But i also would like to be able to play some games on it like total war and the latest COD. I am on the fence between this one or the Legion i7 because the throttling and cooling concerns me a bit with the X1 extreme. I have read that they improved the cooling compared to previous generations but is it enough to ensure that you get the most of this machine performance-wise?

[@IronMan_Daddy]

Thanks so much for sharing, I am more concerned with the thermal , it seems there is no thermal issues like the p1

[@kosenanat6282]

What is your advice ... XPS 17 (UHD+) or the X1 Extreme?

[@fernagiu]

Which is better option? 5i pro, Slim 7i or ThinPad X1 with the same features? Which gets less hot? Which one has less noisy fans?

[@FlorianDootz]

You said it has the typical ThinkPad key travel. I think that is not true. They nerved it after G3 or G4.

[@kenhutchinson8309]

How would you say do the speakers compare to the ones in the X1 Carbon 10th Gen?

[@hanjarake_taro]

As always you ROCK!!!!!

[@akilakbaraly9095]

Good evening Andrew ! Thanks for all your review, quite look objective work Question : so long time you didn't review Asus brand labtop. For my part, after checking long months many places as your channel, I am waiting delivery for my ASUS PROART. Do you know this type of labtop? What do you think about it? Thanks for your reply Hope you the best

[@renat.zholamanov]

Спасибо за обзор! Планирую себе приобрести его в Казахстан )

[@collegemathematics6698]

Hi andrew, what is your highest rating score laptop that you have reviewed in 2022.

[@rafaelperez9652]

The ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5 from Lenovo is a fully decked out machine with a generous number of ports, an SSD card reader on board, excellent upgradeability, very clear 1080p webcam and clear internal mic array, DDR 5 RAM, PCIe Gen 4 SSD, 598 nits IPS display, 90-watt battery as well as a touch display option. Yes, it is expensive but you obviously get what you pay for and this is a perfect example of that. Lenovo just keeps making Great laptops in 2022 with this model. Once again Andrew, you have outdone yourself with this Excellent review my friend! Bravo to you!! 👏👍😁

[@divyangvaidya1999]

This would be my personal choice over the X1 carbon. Lenovo really doesn't disappoint. I also liked the XPS series but Dave 2D (another computer reviewer) stated that the track pad on the XPS had issues. The track pad would be wobbling like a bobblehead. They fixed it, but not 100% sure

[@dnice033]

Is there reason Lenovo uses that propretary power connector? I thought USB C 3.0 went up to 240W? Why not use USB C instead like the other Lenovo laptops?

[@VasiTeoca]

does it support to connect to an 8k TV like Samsung has ? Also do you know how to connect 2 thunderbolt 4 from the laptop to the 4 hdmi ports from the TV ?

[@gallopingnuns6732]

Great review Andrew. So you're making a purchase today, and your options are the identically-specced X1 Extreme or the XPS 15. Do you have a frontrunner?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Both! Just kidding. It would really be a tough decision because both are really good. I will say this, I am partial to OLED displays in general so I would lean to XPS 15 to some extent. That being said, I am really loving this X1 Extreme Gen 5. You really can't go wrong either way.

[@iSean1]

@@andrewmarcdavid I returned an OLED display laptop (Asus Zenbook Pro 16X) because I found it almost unusable outside. Obnoxious reflections and the display needed to be about 20% brighter IMHO. How did you find the OLED on the XPS 15 when used outdoors or with a strong backlight?

[@Superknullisch]

Seems like they have completely discontinued the "Extreme" line at Lenovo.. : ( At least in the Nordic countries in Europe. Is it still available in the rest of Europe and in north America?

[@Edwardbanks1]

You guys saved me from buying a Apple M3 pro MacBook. lol thanks! 👍

[@IuliusPsicofactum]

Man, you should have started by saying all the things the laptop DID NOT have on it! This is a super complete piece of hardware! No wonder it's the Extreme.

[@pvsamorgan9803]

Thanks!

[@IuliusPsicofactum]

Hey Andrew it'd be nice to also have the stats of the internal temperatures in reviews too, as it affects the battery lifetime. Do you agree?

[@algwallt869]

The prices on this are crazy in the UK! Only comes with a 3050 or 3060 option as well. Very disapointed.

[@idontwanttotalkabout]

Yeah, I liked the looks of this, but +£300 to go from a 3050ti to 3060 is a complete rip off.

[@Riri988d_jsus]

Would you do a review of the surface laptop 5 and pro 9? I would really like to see what is your opinions on those products. I think you should get the green colors topo since those are new if you're going to review those

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Coming this week

[@GaryOHagan]

Can you review the Asus M7601 AMD version and do a comparison to the X1 Extreme Gen 5

[@timothycoates4723]

Can you comment on the lack of a number pad, for those who do business it seems they are lost in the background to get a nice computer with a number pad

[@wurlitzersk2541]

This Model seems to have not an option for a second SSD. Why?

[@eduard5524]

Amazing laptop!

[@kkou01]

Does anybody know of keyboard issues with gen 4. Mine is lagging by just a bit, which results in missed alphabets. And any suggestions on what should be done.

[@meal_team_six]

Andrew, did you find the 1100:1 contrast a bit washed out?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Not at all. Screen looks great.

[@denden4387]

For some reason the 1080p webcam on the Gen 4 Version of the same laptop that you reviewed previously seems to have a better webcam than this Gen 5 version and its VERY noticeable!!! It's almost as if the webcam was downgraded. In my opinion, it looks as if it is 720p rather than 1080p and not a good one at that. The Gen 4 version was a lot smoother and this version is noisy or blurry.

[@amirhasan7845]

Hi. Please do the review of thinkplus gen 3 dual screen

[@jch7807]

What is are the dimensions and weight of the 230W power adapter?

[@cameronbosch1213]

Also, where's the Wi-Fi card? Is it soldered? And is it 6E?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Yes to both

[@papagen00]

Hope I can run MS Flight Sim on this with good framerate.

[@Rihaan_Thakkar]

Where's gen 6 😢 when will they release

[@namenotfound3259]

I doubt we'd get it at all, I just checked lenovo website, I couldn't even find gen 4 and gen 5 there, I guess they probably already discontinued the whole x1 extreme line, I'm so sad...was wanted to replace my current gen 1 model with a newer one..😭😭

[@davidarchangels6500]

How about the P1....

[@originalkk882]

I bought the Gen 1 version of this. The motherboard started failing within a few months. The price of an equivalent spec Gen 5 is now over 30% higher than when I bought the Gen 1. It is now over-priced unless you can get a big discount.

[@johnx3654]

Yes, I bought a X1 Extreme Gen 5 in Sep 2022, and the motherboard failed. I sent to the Lenovo repair center in Texas. They changed a new motherboard for me. The product quality still a problem for this machine as of Nov 2022.

[@elasiatico.]

So the monitor on this laptop does not flip all the way back?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Correct but it does go back 180 degrees and lies flat

[@elasiatico.]

@@andrewmarcdavid that is awful wish it would fold all the way back.

[@capresti3537]

@@elasiatico. Why? its not a sandwhich.

[@bdonovable]

I'm looking forward to a laptop that doesn't have a track pad. 🙃 I'd keep the left/right click buttons but I legit never use it and I'd love to see that real estate put to better use.

[@marvinzhang3734]

again, it throttled AF. lenovo should seriously consider upgrading the cooling systems on thinkpad x1 series.

[@capresti3537]

They did with Gen 5. Its perfect.

[@rarinth]

this and the p1 is the best for gaming without the flashy rgb lighting

[@PRBalex19]

Would this be good for some lite gaming ie: COD here and there. I’m not trying to have multiple laptops for work and gaming. PS new to “computer talk”. In military so laptops are easier for me compared to desktops.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Yes to gaming

[@guy7524]

Pity they don't swtich the ctrl and Fn key like on the thinkbook

[@iSean1]

You can switch them in the Lenovo Commercial Vantage app or in BIOS. Apple and Lenovo ThinkPads do that configuration, from what I understand, because of the ease of reaching the Ctrl button without removing your hand position from the Home row on the keyboard. A business laptop configuration? Dunno, but it isn't for everyone.

[@guy7524]

@@iSean1 do you get seperate buttons as the button are very different sizes so you cannot switch it manually. You might be able to switch it in the bios but the labels on the keyboard will still be incorrect

[@iSean1]

@@guy7524 That is true. I think most don't look at the keys while typing so the actual labeling doesn't bother a lot of folks who switch them. But you can also purchase aftermarket labels to re-label them if it does. The key size of course is something that you can't switch. Coming from Macs, I am used to the function key being the outermost key, but I also own a Surface Pro and to me, that is the one that has "backward" Fn/Ctrl positions on the keyboard :) But, if you do reverse them, the size of the Left and Right Ctrl keys would then be consistent in size with the Fn key being the unique larger one?

[@capresti3537]

I have this laptop its excellent except the battery life.

[@HandheldGamingHQ]

it's basically a razor blade without the razor aesthetic

[@farukalkaya]

I preferred the dell XPS 17 9520 i9-12900HK due to price / benefit ratio

[@Gohjunyi88]

first

[@jayrollo1352]

This price is just disgusting. At that point just buy a mac. And this is from someone who hates MacOS.

[@suspectizm]

I feel you but Macintosh laptops are still very limited - no upgrades possible, not so durable once dropped you have a spider screen and no Nvidia GPU which is crucial for a 3D workflow. Also the price for bigger storage is just insane and ram prices are also insane ... Nope never a Mac again ✌️😎

[@HiddenAgendas]

lol wtf this thing blows the macs away. Macs are only good for watching youtube