Redlining: Mapping Inequality in Dayton & Springfield (online version)

"Redlining: Mapping Inequality in Dayton and Springfield" tells the national and local story of redlining, a practice which embedded racial segregation and inequality into the development of American cities and suburbs and created a wealth gap that continues to impact our communities today.

[@CCK1972]

One of the better documentaries I've seen about redlining. A lot of information you don't see in other independent documentaries on the subject on here.

[@antunesiaharris32]

Wow!! I attempted to help a friend purchase the home she lived in for 5 years. The home was on the market for $27,000. She lived in the home for 5 years. She paid $850 in rent. She had a credit score of 775. She had an income of $38,000. I had purchased a home before and understood the process. THE ISSUE...Not a single bank would allow a mortgage below $50,000. She did not earn enough for a personal loan. It was a defeating experience.

[@MattSchaeffer24]

This is really well done. For anyone interested in learning more about this history and its repercussions, I highly recommend "The Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein.

[@j1gs4w1]

Remind me so I won’t forget 🤙

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

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[@jKLa]

Except that while areas with Black populations were consistently redlined, regardless of socioeconomic status, plenty of other areas were too! So to say that redlining was almost solely based on race is a lie!

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

​@@jKLa *Not being able to AFFORD to buy a house in a particular neighborhood is NOT the same as not being ALLOWED to buy a house in a particular neighborhood.* The latter is redlining.

[@jKLa]

@@hulkhatepunybanner yes, that is true. I am well aware of the difference. Redlining involves discrimination based on race and among other factors. That doesn't conflict with what I mentioned that in addition to areas with even minor Black populations, many other neighborhoods were redlined as in loans denied, based on ethnicity or other cultural atributes, religion, socioeconomic status and housing stock at the neighborhood level. But it was indeed African Americans who were by far the most harmed by the practice in the long run. No argument there.

[@vanessahaley7590]

Thanks for sharing. I hate our past but love to see how I and us all can start making change

[@rkenzie5235]

This applies to cities all over the country! I see it in Portland, Oregon. Such a well done documentary.

[@SAMMIMOHAMED-pw9su]

Its really something useful

[@torbenretboll2841]

More video about this topic: ** Jim Crow of the North (2018) (PBS) (57 minutes) ** Jim Crow, Pennsylvania (2007) (PBS) (57 minutes)

[@tiffanywilliams5179]

awesome educational video thank you

[@jKLa]

While areas with Black populations were consistently Redlined, many other area were too so to claim it was almost solely based on race as this video does early on is a LIE. Sorry, that makes this video at least somewhat propaganda and thus not so awsome, even if most of it is.

[@carlvinson8251]

Well informed thank you . I was taught this back in the 80's and saw it for myself in 92when we bought are first house with good credit but told by the bank we're I was only allowed to move they were all in bad areas the bank would not approve my loan unless I chose one of these areas and the loan amount was so low I had no choice but to move in a bad area.

[@jKLa]

Many refuse to believe it but the evidence is too clear that while now illegal and slowly getting better over time, your experience is still all too common even now. Many other areas were also redlined however so race while central to redlining was not the close to sole factor as falsely claimed early on in this video.

[@aliyahjoelle5366]

I met Michael Carter at Sinclair last year! He put together an exhibit there in the library of the history of black people in America with tons of vintage posters, books, dolls, and more. He's a great guy to talk to. If you're in the Dayton area, you should visit it!

[@dumdumgarcia2830]

Fantastic documentary. I'll just add that while this does need addressing on a national level, African-Americans do need to band together to support their own communities and show strength. There are plenty of African-Americans making generational wealth nowadays, not just in sports and entertainment, but also in other industries. We're talking about wealth that can support more than 5 generations of families, so they can definitely spare some money to reinvigorate communities like Dayton by investing into their local economies.

[@mareerogers364]

Those who have made it live in an alternate reality😢😢😢😢😢

[@jKLa]

Also while getting better over time, testing results from recent years unfortunately still show significant degrees of racial discrimination in mortgage lending, home sales, renting and appraisals even now. Also notable is the redlined area of East Dayton, which today is filled with poor whites.

[@coreymasoy7034]

Great documentary video ❗💯🔥👍

[@Mr.CireSoprano]

ALL TAXATION WITH ZERO REPRESENTATION. REPARATIONS MUST COME. IT IS OWED✊🏾

[@fernandocadena2625]

In the telecommunications industry (5G) redlining is what we call when we are making changes to the existing plans

[@neonnoir9692]

White developments are such clean, beautiful places 😊

[@USA-CANADA1480]

Until they start to come in defended by DEI mentality

[@mareerogers364]

So are middle-class Black neighborhoods. You have no idea. If you did, you would destroy those neighborhoods. Apparently you are not watching this documentary. I now live in a city that sadly has 98% of all real estate is now owned by out of state or out of the country investors. One house is owned by a Salvadoran in Salvador 😢

[@mareerogers364]

​@@USA-CANADA1480DEI hires people who are like Kamala 1st generation children who claim to be native born Black ancestry. Or Lgbtqabc are hired under DEI. Native born Blacks are not hired with multiple qualifications! We native born Blacks want DEI and Kamala gone from DC. Trump 2024❤

[@ssjlkrillin]

This documentary does a great job at explaining how neighborhoods that are majority black became dilapidated and full of blight (denied financial resources). The people there did not intentionally turn their neighborhoods to pot; banks simply would not offer home improvement loans, period. Also, many people did not have the financial education to avoid pitfalls such as equity loans, subprime loans [adjustable rate mortgages], and rent-to-own agreements. Also, placing a threshold for financing a new home [$50000] hurts a lot of low-income residents (this same practice is done with vehicles: typically $20000 and/or 10 years old). Growing up in these types of neighborhoods in the South (now I live near Springfield), I have definitely witnessed it firsthand.

[@aidankirby8412]

Blacks historically are not a good credit risk. Home Loans dont make good neighborhoods, people do. Blacks took on the nicest area in Dayton, formerly Jewish area, wealthy district with beautiful homes. And yet in just 1-2 decades, it was rotted- from Crime, Trash, and the usual that comes with black presence.

[@scotthullinger4684]

The average house does not become dilapidated within a few short years. I'm betting the black community moved into such houses knowing full well that they were already in a state of disrepair. It's either that, or else pay rent for a lifetime. Who wants to do that? Nobody, if it can be avoided - It is only fairly recently that citizens in much of the south have encountered those old style racist problems which were once thought conquered. But the Democrats have of course made it once again fashionable to be racist.

[@philipwhatley6742]

​@scotthullinger4684 a gentle reminder that both Republicans and democrats have been president post slavery and through Jim crow into moden times when redlining, racial covenants and loan denials were happening

[@neonnoir9692]

Yeah no, their destructive behavior destroyed those homes in record time. They even destroy apartments which require constant repairs paid for by the poor owner.

[@philipwhatley6742]

@@neonnoir9692 the wealthiest black neighborhoods in america don't look like slums. Access to money and higher tax bases is everything

[@stuartperry8141]

I was born in 1960 in New Bern, NC moving to Brooklyn, NY in 1967. I eventually grew up and left NY in 1990s. My point being that very few people I knew lived in the same area that i grew up in the seventies and eigthies when I left in the nineties.

[@arefinedperspective]

Consider this: Foreign investors who have never been in America are purchasing real estate anywhere they choose in 2024, despite the fact that black families were redlined access to particular neighborhoods and homes for years. This actually took place in America?!?!

[@nickieketcham8170]

How do we change this?

[@aidankirby8412]

Segregate

[@USA-CANADA1480]

@@aidankirby8412I’m starting to agree. It just doesn’t work if you force the mingling of people that don’t like each other

[@comecomecomecome]

@@USA-CANADA1480 disgusting

[@JeffreyJMoore-xn9eb]

Civil Rights Freedom Liberty Justice First Federally Funded Dayton Model Cities Neighborhood Community Center First Historical Significance So Named As a National Endorsed This Place Matters 🎉😢 lack of Knowledge or Experience Fresh Starts Love Thy Neighbor more today than ever ❤🎉

[@takatoshi27]

😮 it is so sad that Mr. exe’s original home gained a whopping equity of NEGATIVE 77%. 🤬

[@CCK1972]

Dayton is a really hard place to live in. Great people though.

[@FinanceNation]

Will a racist or non racist white person please explain to me why people deny racism exists in America to the extent that it does

[@lucillesalatto3628]

i think bc those people are stupid

[@USA-CANADA1480]

Sure it exists. As a matter of fact you will see TONS of black people on social media blatantly insulting being racist to whites and get away with it.

[@USA-CANADA1480]

I will as soon as you can prove to me that you live and enjoy being in black neighborhoods and schools. Tell me if anyone wants to live in such a situation.

[@nicholasbrowning4558]

Redlinibg is unnecessary. No one wants to live in dayton or springfield with the terrible crime and low scoring schools.

[@barbeej12]

That's why Black Americans need reparations.

[@ScreamTatumRiley]

Facts

[@beforeyourimmigrants8471]

They need to cut the check for slavery first

[@dandelves]

Build more expensive properties as the new residents will pay more tax, which benefits the city and push out the peasants to reduce crime and make it even more enticing for those on higher incomes.

[@RichelleWatson615]

This is a lie, my ancestors were in Ohio from the 1700s til they left and moved to west virginia. Theyre were colored folks all over the southeastern seaboard as they arevthe American ingens[ indians]

[@jacobroddy7939]

I understand this but I'm white and am just as poor as any black. While my brother has a different dad is 45 retired with a farm and 3 houses. I'm 34 and live in a apartment with my mom that struggles as well.

[@h.h8766]

Can i ask How did your brother buy so many houses and a farm?

[@beforeyourimmigrants8471]

They make car loans for $50,000 they can easily make mgt

[@jameskerry41]

48:38 go Scorpions!

[@jKLa]

Yes, poor whites could be presant in green areas to an extent but actual poor white areas were indeed redlined even without blacks. Yet the presence of even a single non servant black resident regardless of socioeconomic status routinely meant an area was redlined.

[@user-jd1cy9gp3q]

The scientific literatue does not find an effect of racism on lending. 'Redlining' did not have any racist effect and the fact that that the producers are ignorant willingly or not of the reality of the effect is damming.

[@neonnoir9692]

Americans will always find workarounds, we simply don't want to live in little Africa.

[@USA-CANADA1480]

Before, I didn’t want to believe that integration in schools and home communities would lower the standards of academics and the value of housing in the neighborhood respectively, not to mention ruin the neighborhood, until I see what’s going on today in high school, colleges and closure of stores and restaurants in the neighborhood where there is diversity.

[@sethconnor1018]

Reposting and tagging news outlets on Facebook

[@gj1234567899999]

Redling makes more sense to me now in light of all the skyrocketing crime, riots and looting going on in the U.S. it’s not about racism, it’s about facts. Black areas simply have more crime than other areas. It’s foolish to invest in those places. Back then it wasn’t taboo to have common sense. “Hey new guy - here’s a map of all the places you should avoid. Lots of crime here. Don’t sell real estate here ok?”

[@skyhighmediasolutions891]

Do a documentary about my ancestors! The native American Suix nation!!! Yes this is history but the context being used is just willingly causing modern segregation

[@starchildofthe90s7]

Do a documentary about your own ancestors tell your own story

[@gj1234567899999]

Yes let’s learn about how the Sioux started in Minnesota and then rose in power and then moved to South Dakota and conquered the Indians living there. In truth the Sioux are not native to South Dakota at all. They conquered it from other Indians. They then cry when a bigger tribe comes along and kicks them out.

[@jermainburnett8594]

Prismacolor

[@dogo2164]

Red lining is not outlawed just rename as gated community. Just take a look at North Florida, west Florida. Some of these places are 95 % European American and racism is food for the soul of these state.

[@skyhighmediasolutions891]

This is about Dayton and Springfield Ohio not the far southeast of Florida I grew up in Ridgewood in the early 90s and there was plenty of diversity. I don't understand what the purpose of this documentary is? Yes it's history but it also is claiming that the history is still going on today. I don't agree. I believe what I can see with my own eyed not what is shown to me. I am disappointed with think TV for creating and basically trying to make the past the present.. what a shame

[@ceazy1861]

@@skyhighmediasolutions891 Did you watch the whole thing?

[@timwarcloud]

How does a gated community discriminate?

[@cjaquilino]

@@ceazy1861Guy has no idea what he's taking about and refuses to even entertain a researched documentary based simply on his own anecdotal experience.

[@a2bmoving526]

You are profoundly ignorant if you think west and north Florida is only white

[@daphneytennard3267]

These were Indigenous people...the term African Americans was coined in 1988...name changed for the eighth time. Natives American Indians to be exact!

[@ScreamTatumRiley]

Who is changing the name?

[@jKLa]

The redlining maps were NOT based almost solely on race except in one very important sense: that is that areas with any black population of note were consistently redlined, regardless of soceoeconomic status or anything else. Plenty of other areas without black residents were redlined too however!

[@truthonly-]

Name some of these areas for us

[@jKLa]

@@truthonly- they were all over the place, including in Ohio cities. I'm not gonna go name census tracts for you but you can easily find them yourself but you'll need to look up archived data from the census, etc, not all of it online. I've done some myself and it's fascinating actually but you can also just read about the history. Many other ethnic or cultural minority and immigrant neighborhoods, as well as many with just low incomes and old housing stock were also redlined. But the practice was still very racially discriminatory against Black homeowners/buyers and would be home buyers. This was true both directly and also indirectly in effect, - no doubt about that!!!

[@kaneohe47]

​@@truthonly-his response is all we needed to know.

[@goodcookingwithneish4235]

This is disturbing.

[@RichelleWatson615]

It's all staged, and scripted

[@a2bmoving526]

Just because your grand or great grand parents owned a house doesn't mean you would inherit it. I know people that inherited a lot of money and property and blew it all in their lifetime leaving nothing to their children. I think this is a way to excuse the failures of African Americans in modern society

[@JordanFreshour]

That’s the most racist thing I’ve read all month. Jfc

[@aliyahjoelle5366]

At least they had the opportunity to have something. Black people didn't have anything to do with them wasting their money. But white people did have something to do with why black people don't have as much money.

[@ssjlkrillin]

What money and what inheritance? I know so few black people that have ever inherited anything but the deceased person's medical debt. I can not begin to count the numbers of people who have had to go to a Title Loan or GoFundMe to pay for the funeral. This person must have watched the first ten minutes and turned it off to post this comment.

[@nickieketcham8170]

A2B, that is just ignorant. Did you not watch the whole show? This is real. This is still causing more and more of a divide in Dayton. A divide that should not be there.

[@a2bmoving526]

@@ssjlkrillin what would change??? Seriously what would change if red lining never happened? Why do y'all act the same all around the world in different environments??

[@RichelleWatson615]

This story is outdated, and a Great big lie

[@terrymoore3671]

If you’re White and just had this History lesson. Imagine a Movie 🍿 you guys like Pretend, imagine doing the Right things from the beginning. Maybe no Rap but still Elvis and the Beatles, Which gave us The Rolling Stones 🎤 Pre Rap after Slavery the Blues give us Evils. Blacks. Sorry degreased, if you’ve ever met a normal black person usually your seeing his family as well as Ghetto guys. For the Racist and young who keep saying why don’t they........Well it’s because of you and the nice ones not seeing Cause and Effect from FDRs New Deal to make your White families able to do almost anything. You can not compare the two when considering blacks. Being Systemic is like the documentary said.. If Grate Grandparents Aren’t Selling Well they don’t Hire in Corporate America. So when everyone’s always White where you walk....it’s Systemic. Your Birth to your Schools to your Jobs to your neighborhoods. It’s was built before you guys got here waiting for you. Why do you think your not super great athletes? Really come on tell us maybe it’s because someone maybe better who’s not White and doesn’t just have to have Pretty Eyes and nice hair for the meeting and Dinner parties. It’s someone who’s faster jumps higher and stronger. Personally it could be anybody but in life it’s usually Black Americans who are the best on the Planet. My point is this try being fair and see how it ends up because Redlining is a Holocaust given by White Americans.

[@idenou9577]

you ramble on... if you could've...should've... would've...

[@aidankirby8412]

Blacks took over the Nicest area in Dayton- jewish row. Ivy College Row. Nicest, most elegant homes. They destroyed it in 1-2 decades as they dont care for their homes. Crime, Trash, Blight. Dayton a Top 5 Murder Capital and its 90% Black shootings. Whites Own Professional Boxing now. Blacks haven't had a HW Champ in over 2 decades. (Fury/Klitchko) Whites Own Worlds Strongest Man. Blacks havent even placed yet. And Wrestling, Swimming, High Jump, Weight Lifting. Blacks get the nod for some Spring and distance events-though PEDs come into play. Blacks got their music from White devotional and railroad hymms. Africa had no 'Blues' That is all minor pentatonic Irish chord structure and hymms. You can have have Elvis and Rap..we dont want it. Racism exists due to black behavior, Whites dont want to be around violent blacks. Sensible blacks dont want to be around it either. At this point, Whites are Owed Reparations from blacks for all of the crime and destruction and generations of EBT that you have wasted.

[@ambassadorbarak2884]

@@idenou9577 doesnt matter you reap what you sow Portland