This All-New Ryzen 8840U X86 Board Is Fast & We Added An OCuLink GPU! Hands-On

[@JazzTechie]

Looks like the guts from a mini pc sold as a standalone board. I could definitely see using it in a creative tech project. Maybe also the GPU assuming there's a graceful way to route power to everything.

[@tadmikowsky7520]

yeah looks like the mini pc version is "ASRock Industrial 4X4 BOX-8840U". Found it on newegg, release date 5/10/2024

[@david.godbey]

Given that the link is to Asrock Industrial, I'm going to assume there's no easy path to ownership. At least, not as an individual hobbyist.

[@rkadi6540]

And i doubt the price would be pocket friendly

[@david.godbey]

@@rkadi6540 Probably not. I'm willing to bet that it'll be cheaper and easier buying a similar specced micro pc and just taking it out of its shell.

[@kawag2780]

Might be able to buy the mini PC version from Newegg. Seems to be launching over there tomorrow. Listed for 600USD.

[@someguy3186]

Yeah, if he’s going to make a video about products like these, he should at least be more informative on how to get them.

[@zorthie]

yeah like why even bother reviewing something regular people cant buy

[@pedretejb2492]

It runs Cyberpunk better than my whole pc 💀 bro

[@itookurclips]

who hasked

[@sikimasio]

@@itookurclips ur mother

[@brokeandtired]

@@itookurclips touch yourself elsewhere.

[@pedretejb2492]

@@sikimasio you cooked him 🍳🍳

[@50H3i1]

This is so tiny yet super powerful and easily extendable . I'm really excited for what future handhelds and phone gpus can do

[@juskim]

i think this may be the smallest SBC i've seen so far that can run AAA games with ease! so many things you can build with this thing :)

[@7Wounds]

Exactly. You could do SO MUCH with this. This might by the perfect for a Virtual Pinball Table I'm planning, especially with the OcUlink

[@betag24cn]

no sbc requires ram sticks, this is a minipc without a case

[@Arxgxmi]

so what lol

[@Arxgxmi]

@@7Wounds why would you need a 500+ USD CPU for a pinball

[@7Wounds]

@@Arxgxmi you wouldn't I wasn't aware of the price at the time. This is the 1st time I've seen Oculink and it was an exciting prospect if you wanna do 4k tables etc.

[@TheBlackCat1997able]

This is my life: 3:20 . You captured it perfectly...

[@StrongFox-yv1vf]

I love AMD has done for the APU space. I am super excited for next GEN. Can’t wait to see your videos on it to

[@andylaidb9]

There is one thing I would like to point out. The interface of the connector on the backside of the motherboard is ESPI instead of SATA. It just happens to have same type of connector as the SATA connector they usually have on different 4X4 board.

[@Mchenrygames]

no matter how good an arm board may be, sometimes I just need to run x86 apps

[@bes12000]

Since I use Linux as main OS for everything, always want to see one of these mini PC's run Linux and play games.

[@univera1111]

As you can see you dont get many likes. Alot of third world font even know Linux exist. Until we have standalone apps on linux that dont need internet to download from the repo. No usefulness of Linux. Id rather wait for Harmony OS.

[@bes12000]

@@univera1111 What are you on about?, windows apps work on my Linux OS easily right out of the box they install like a normal windows app and run like one also. Also there are multiple native photo editing and video editing apps, games run without any issues via steam, Heroic launcher and Lutris launcher. Also a lot of default apps come pre-installed on many common distros that are very useful.. mine pretty much IS windows, it even has a similar UI layout and start menu layout and file manager layout.

[@Arxgxmi]

@@univera1111 linux is actually quite popular in India, if you look at the data.

[@Arxgxmi]

@@univera1111 most popular distros come with office apps by default, which is all anyone doing a fresh install would want, just like on windows so don't get this point

[@tauqeerdarve4876]

​@@univera1111Been using linux for 6 years now, I'm 19 lol. Never felt like I was missing out on anything although yes sometimes troubleshooting things is hectic and when I'm doing something out of the box and need old windows apps which sometimes don't run well on my pc (most people will never have the need for such stuff) but apart from that I have everything I need available to me. Linux has grown quite alot. People still think it's tough to use so that will take time. Although steam deck did make it a little more mainstream.

[@666Maeglin]

I could imagine it be mounted in a 3½" drive bay in an old retro style case together with a another standard motherboard to have a great combi use system

[@MrGrimreach]

Love to see Bazzite run on it. :)

[@F0XH0UND007]

Or nobaraos steam deck edition

[@ahilker1]

You may be able to get that thing to boot using USB power if you change the tdp bios setting to "quiet mode".

[@infectedmethod]

The future has arrived at last. What a time to be alive.

[@RobertBoston-n4d]

Eh, the future was the mid 80s, then again in 2008. Its just repeating at this point. Get these computers down to $350 and im in.

[@Mamiya645]

A quality 780m box with oculink like this feels like my jam for work and gaming, including VR on both. Sharp pixels good pixels..

[@floppa9415]

The flexibility of X86 is just great. You can run pretty much any distro and any software.

[@malypetu1409]

It'll be nice to know the cost of the parts used so we can compare it to other pre-built SBCs. Also, since you offer, it will be great to see Linux running to see the performance, particularly if you also install something like a Media server (Plex or similar). Great video review, I was surprised you can connect a GPU so easily.

[@bgates275]

Amazing what a difference a dedicated GPU makes to gaming.

[@fuzzymuppet1990]

Hopefully, "fingers crossed" ,that by the time 9th gen ryzen mobile apus come out, pcie 5.0 x4 nvme slots will trickle down to these smaller boards, since there already available on hedt mobos and 5.0x4 ssds already exist... that should kill 90% if the bandwidth issues with occulink or nvme adapters.

[@daveweinstein5044]

Nice video. I would love to see you run Linux on it. Would also love to see you trying some of the other cool SBCs like CWWK's X86-P5, which is an N305 SBC that can add a daughter board with 4x SSDs... that would be an interesting experiment to run TrueNAS or UNRAID on ;-)

[@murphyseanm]

If there was a way to get better cooler on there that would help as you could keep the chip boosting to 50w full time, even something like NH-L9 would be enough to hold that power level. Or just pair this with something like the 4060 SFF in a small case and it would be a champ.

[@Tjocksnorriss]

That M.2 adapter looks like a PCI-E 3.0 adapter, this board + the new NUC 14 both deliver pci-e 4.0 via the 2242 M.2 port! I wish most of them would come with pci-e 5.0 by now...

[@Neopulse00]

The problem is licensing, it's too expensive still especially when PCIe 4.0 is relatively new for board makers.

[@ReflexVE]

⁠It's not licensing. The integrated graphics versions of the Ryzen only support PCIe 4.0 for external I/O unfortunately. Hopefully that changes with Zen5.

[@Tjocksnorriss]

@@ReflexVE You are correct, 20x 4.0 lanes in the 8xxx mobile systems. Meteor Lake H-cpus have 8x 5.0 support, U-models 20x 4.0. Both Intel and Amds latests stuff...the confusion at times...

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@kryptonite7936]

I like these smaller computers for using in the full size arcade builds but it does drive the price up a bit!

[@BlackBlueColor]

I've about 50 tabs on Chrome looking for a mini PC and this is the best one.

[@zombiewolf007]

That oculink board is most likely 32gbps performance based on the parts Im looking at on Amazon. Only one amazon ad said 64gbps but I dont know if thats fake, because its the same model/part number as all of these other red colored oculink nvme m.2 adapters on Amazon. I ordered the part that claims its 64gbps and I'll test it when it gets delivered.

[@al-sh6hm]

@@zombiewolf007 any updates, curious if it actually is as advertised

[@dannytapia1896]

Great content! Can you run this using the low profile RTX 4060 card. I think that would be great to see such a small board using a RTX graphics card.

[@LuminousSpace]

i saw ppl running oculink from m.2 with 4080 for sure this will support too

[@Crustenscharbap]

I wish there would be any possibility to put this PC into a fanless case. 42W is not hard to cool without any fans.

[@rogerthomas7040]

Note, the ethernet ports are 1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN, not dual 2.5.

[@Dankasaurus6]

I bet that would be a crazy powerful mini arcade machine

[@NullAndVoidChannel]

I wonder how different his looks to other mini Pc's with their cases removed. I have a eg01h4 egpu case, and a PC like this would easily fit inside the case with my 4090, making an epic 9 litre 4090 PC all contained in the egpu case. You wouldn't need to run the oculink cable outside of it, but would need to sort any power button/usb/hdmi access. Is tempting though. With PC's like this, I believe it would now start to make sense to ship GPU's with the CPU etc built onto the GPU, and have different options/ram slots etc or have CPU modules or something to allow variations

[@justinreynolds6318]

The linked specifications page clearly states 1 x Realtek Gigabit LAN, 1 x Realtek 2.5 Gigabit LAN So NOT dual 2.5GbE

[@2cars10]

Great candidate for a 3d printed case. Also i noticed that you were cpu bound with the Egpu which is pretty concerning for a moderately powerful card

[@isbestlizard]

128 of them 16GB per node would draw 6kw but have 1024 cores and 2TB ram and 11 TB/sec memory bandwidth so if you're playing with huge LLM's that's pretty good. If they can be cheap enough to make it worthwhile like couple hundred dollars each that's a fun like build-a-supercomputer project o.o

[@isbestlizard]

Whoa they get 780M gpus too so like a petaflop of fp32 compute too it would be really cool!! ARe they $100 each?

[@omarcristaldo7103]

Love your mini pc's test with eGPU, and I think this setup even is not the focus of your channel is very good to make some AI, and run local LLM's or image models. The problem is that ollama, or comfyUI run better with Nvidia, and lot's of Vram. I wonder between all these small pc's what could be the best AI setup on a budget, with a small PC, and a modest Nvidia GPU, not top of the line but enough to run some LLM's or Stable diffusion at a reasonable speed. It really seems that if anyone have to change their PC now, they should go for a mini PC or a notebook with a free M.2 or oculink to add a eGPU, for gaming or for AI.

[@nialltracey2599]

The term SBC is supposed to mean that it isn't a motherboard you have to plug stuff into. Usually you get away with having to fit in a harddrive or SSD, but I think having to plug in memory modules breaks the definition.

[@lalyulalev]

Hi nice video and interesting board! Will be great to get that Linux follow up and maybe test of some SAS/storage adapters on one of these NVME ports - board itself looks like a great candidate for small Proxmox host and adding an external SAS/SATA adapter only will allow you to convert it to excellent homelab server

[@안희민-w6o]

영상 잘 보고있습니다. 전부터 항상 궁금했는데 이런 싱글보드 컴퓨터는 주로 어디서 구매하시나요?

[@friendlyperson9841]

This would be so cool with Bazite as a set top box connected to a tv.

[@MountKash1]

*@ETA PRIME* If you have a RTX dual fan GPU. Like a 4070 TI Super. It'd be nice to see a tiny build (like the single fan 4060 tiny builds you've done). Whether it be in a super small sff case or a mini workstation style case. Backpack size 4070 build

[@GerritTV187]

the apu is really interesting. wonder what price range the mini pc running this will be. would be cool ifthey will be in the range of the intel N chips.

[@tschorsch]

It would great to see this running under Linux, with and without the GPU.

[@4megii]

Yeah I'd love to see linux on this, with Oculink. I'm seriously considering getting rid of my big tower in favor for something like this. I'd still need some Sata however.

[@Branchprediction]

Great video. As usual. MX Linux and Manjaro would be cool. Maybe a run on an LLM.

[@heyheyhophop]

"Can change the TDP across the board" -- nice pun there ;)

[@Neopulse00]

"WTF is this crazy SBC?" It was my first thought seeing the thumbnail of this video.

[@danielhulan3058]

@ETA PRIME, can you do a video that showcases the difference between usb 4 and oculink with egpus? I have a Legion Go and a Onexgpu and I was curious about the real world difference between the fps difference between oculink and usb 4/thunderbolt 3/4.

[@Machinorio]

Where can I buy that maneki neko that shows up at 3:06 ?

[@nitrobear]

I’m assuming that the difference in performance here is because it’s using SODIMM at 5600mhz instead of soldered ram at higher speeds

[@kendallkoga2028]

I'd love to see you do gaming Nobara on that

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

Emulation test please ChimeraOS gaming test please 😁🥺

[@cellar-door]

Ooh, would be sick for some sort of handheld project monstrosity

[@kevinmckenna5682]

You should totally make a custom SFF build with this. Also, how much RAM can be allocated to the 780M? More than 8GBs?

[@xgamer25125]

GPU% was often

[@wyatt77777]

I would be interested in Linux. I usually use Fedora, but Manjaro might give a fairer shake if you wait for Mesa 24.1 to come out first.

[@muhammadsyafiq1991]

would you make a handheld for future project with the board?

[@tpf92]

It appears newegg sells this exact one in a box that's barebones rather than just being a board for $600.

[@tommybronze3451]

put proxmox on it and report idle power. Interested at how this would perform as a witness node.

[@dutchrussell]

dude whenever he runs Time Spy benchmark its like my wife in a dress asking if she looks fat. The score could be anywhere between 35,000 and 5,000 and he will say "the results look really good here"

[@aaronalquiza9680]

3:21 i don't know why there were 2 audio cuts here almost sounds like AI voice stammering lol

[@rostredd]

Just FYI, it's not 2x2.5G NICs as mentioned. It's 1x1G and 1x2.5G.

[@venanks]

Please do one with Linux. Points of interest would be, which distros supports the hardware out of the box, performance of different base distros - debian/ubuntu base, arch based, fedora basedand opensuset umbleweed :D

[@onizuka4534]

I wish there was some new Oculink with PCIeX x8-x16, so we could use these small systems and 100% of external GPU power

[@phxrider950]

Then it wouldn't be oculink

[@ancaxtx647]

mr Eta. plz make DIY handhel gaming PC with this board 😁😁

[@cobbinaloic]

I would love to see linux running on it. Also, I would love to know the power consumption on balanced mode.

[@stormeporm]

thats a really cool board. The cpu supports ecc does its mean the board does too?

[@phxrider950]

It's cool, but why wouldn't you just grab the Minisforum with Oculink and a 7840hs (considerably faster) for $400 barebones?

[@exodous02]

Dang, I bet this is like unobtainium. Is there a mini PC speced like this? Minisforum doesn't seem to have a 8840U yet. Their tablet is but I don't really want to pay for the screen. I guess in a month Minishforum would have one anyway. EDIT: If you search 4X4-8840U it looks like newegg has a mini PC by asrock specked exactly the same. I don't think it's the exact same board, the layout is mirrored, which could be the pictures are reversed. This board doesn't have a audio jack though where the minPC does. $600 though, not cheap.

[@ShaunaJagan]

1:11 You said it has 2 slots, but what about that 3rd connection? Am I missing something?

[@damageinc81292]

It has 2 m.2 slots. He's using one for an SSD and one for occulink. The third port is the sata 2.5 connection

[@ianTnai]

I don’t see a price on the link. Any ideas?

[@STORMFIRE07]

I couldn’t find a way to buy from the website aswell, but you can buy it in an enclosure from the newegg for $599

[@naruhearts1]

Apparently around $600 in including the RAM and storage

[@jeremyf1901]

The editing errors on this channel are frustrating lol. It seems to happen a lot. Around 3:20 in this one.

[@wric01]

Someone please make a silent passive mod for it. Need a silent desktop daily audiophile setup and option to crank it up for gaming with oculink.

[@TerenceKearns]

The most important metric is "how much does it cost?"

[@АндрейА-щ1х]

This board is intended to build your own Minisforum, just make a case)) It seems that cpu doesn't have a npu

[@wolffactor56]

Npu?

[@neb_setabed]

​@@wolffactor56 neural processing unit

[@wolffactor56]

@@neb_setabed thanks for following up. Debating about getting a mini pc for daily work stuff. My gaming computer is loud.

[@АндрейА-щ1х]

@@wolffactor56 well, you can just replace noisy fans in your pc and it will work fine for you, mini pcs are really noisy things

[@wolffactor56]

@@АндрейА-щ1х I am thinking its the power supply of my video card….gonna habe to see. Didn't know mini computers were loud.

[@nevermindnevermin]

I checked the Newegg price and saw it was $599. Paying $599 for such a product is a great stupidity. They must think that as manufacturers reduce the size of their products, people's intelligence also shrinks in the same proportion.

[@digital4282]

They sell this on Newegg w/ the case for $599, it's still bare bones.

[@phxrider950]

Ouch, that's pricey for barebones that Amazon is selling the Minisforum um780xtx with a 7840HS and Oculink for $400.

[@scruffy3121]

This could be a amazing Unraid NAS using external HDD enclosures.

[@theopendoor3716]

Price?

[@Name_not_visible]

3:21 audio bug lol

[@Wazguu]

thought he having a stroke

[@dresalvator9075]

But can it run Crysis?

[@jennyrosedeleon2557]

seeing the G1 used always gets me excited for Minisforum's HX200G...

[@srvuk]

Nice but ASRock should stop putting these things behind a purely industrial base. By ll means have pricing for larger volumes but also give a flat rate price upfront for 1.

[@pepin2089]

Install Arch Linux and try emulation on Linux and Windows. SteamOS too. Good video.

[@COACTUSFECI75]

yoo this is nice...what does it cost? cant find price

[@jaba007de]

Ich glaube der Fehler bei der ganzen Geschichte mit der Performance liegt schlichtweg daran dass dein Fernsehen lediglich 60 Watt Output hat das hast du mal in einem Video irgendwann gesagt dass dein Fernsehen nur 60 Watt Output hat und deshalb kann die CPU und GPU nur auf 42 Watt hochtakten weil das restliche System ja auch noch Energie braucht um zu funktionieren sei es der RAM sei es die SSD was auch immer .......wäre nett wenn du nächste mal ein etwas stärkeres output-gerät nutzen würdest ich glaube da würde die Performance noch mal signifikant steigen.

[@AKG58Z]

Did you happen to mention the Price ?

[@TheBlackFoxMaster]

5:11 Ровно то же самое умел Samsung s9+ в своё время.

[@rustkitty]

How thick is it including the fan? I'm looking for something to fit in slimmer enclosure than your average mini PC, but I have footprint to spare.

[@FirstFusion222]

How much does it cost?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Amazing 😍

[@mysticalone]

According to Asrock, this does not have dual 2.5 GbE. It has 1GbE and 2.5GbE

[@Behnam_Moghaddam]

thanks. interesting little thing i wonder if it runs nobara

[@bemutatoktesztek4163]

CPU AND GPU celsius?

[@panjak323]

Only thing that sucks is AMDs naming. Can't be sure if the 8000 series CPU is zen2, zen3 or zen4 by the first look.

[@markrotondella4689]

Once you go much beyond the size of the Rasberry Pi I don't quite get the point of not having a case.

[@demanuDJ]

here is the new new homeserver board incoming

[@Propganda]

I don't think the ethernet is dual 2.5 (seems to be 1x2.5 & 1x gigabit - both realtek)

[@spokehedz]

I'd want to see Linux, but I would also like to know if this would be a good use for a moderate NAS/Media center situation with hardware transcoding and performance.

[@Hugh_I]

On the transcoding side I'd say pretty good, as you get all the hardware accell you get from any RDNA3 GPU (including AV1), and even for software transcoding this would be decent with 8 zen4 cores. As for NAS storage, it depends on how much storage you want. If you're fine with two NVMEs or one NVME and say 4 SATA drives or so over an M.2 SATA controller/adapter, it would totally work. However I would rather go with a micro-ATX baord, or at least a mini-ITX, and a desktop Ryzen CPU (has more PCIE lanes) for any NAS really, as you'll have more SATA ports out of the box and options to add additional SATA-controllers, NVME drives or faster ethernet on the PCIe slot(s).

[@johnhenrix3894]

I might just buy this setup for lower power consumption.

[@nempk1817]

Praying for an Steam machine 2

[@DoubleDrastik]

This chip performs like the z1 extreme in my ally maybe a lil better . Id say these ryzen 8 series is amd’s awnser to getting a serious leg up on nvidia and intel. I just hope they stop thinking in a box and start using the leverage they have now to pursued the consumer. And make the 780m grapchics a standard thing. For their low end and lets say just skip the whole low end for apu’s and high range offer a ryzen 7 and 9 apu. And then the big hitters without igpu as in tge x versions and x3d If they give very capable apu’s on 200 and 300 and like 400-450 dollar/euro On the am5 platform. I see them really turning the table