This amp plugin sounds like a fatality | MLC SubZero-100

[@nj1255]

I've been thinking lately that the IR technology is where modern amp sims are still lacking. Stuff like ToneX and Neural Amp Modeler are already pretty much perfect in terms of capturing the amp itself, but IRs is still this 90's technology that doesn't really make a real cabinet and mic justice. You are only capturing the static frequency response (i.e EQ curve), but not the dynamics of a moving speaker that also interacts with the power amp. It's nice to see more companies trying to develop this part of an amp sim further.

[@7riXter]

QUESTION: (dwight schrute here 😅) If Tonex and Nam are able to capture the dynamic behavior of an amphead, do they also include the dynamic reaction of the speaker pushed by the amp? Kind of a matter of perspective isn't it?

[@nj1255]

@@7riXter To some degree, they should. However, NAM and ToneX can't capture something like a compressor, only the super quick dynamics/saturation (and frequency response) that happens in a guitar amp. The dynamics happening in a guitar speaker and mic+preamp should be quite similar to a guitar amp though, so maybe NAM and ToneX does capture them quite accurately. I definitely like many of the full rig capture for NAM and ToneX better than using IRs at least.

[@roberteismann1929]

Wall of sound and Celestion Speaker Mix Pro both do dynamic IRs

[@danymalsound]

Thanks man! This is honestly the first video of this I've seen where I actually liked the tone. I may actually buy it! Cheers!

[@tomix1970pl1]

I am Polish and this is the first polish amp I am proud off.This one sounds like different amps in one.But plugin is something else.Sounds really good.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

what about Laboga?

[@zbigniewiksinski]

nie zesraj sie tomek

[@trumancarter1299]

Fantastic video..I've been trialing it for a few days and I'm very impressed with the dynamics of this plugin..the demo I've been working on with this sounds very similar to yours 😂 and I'm normally more in the metal core realm..this sim makes you want to play bad ass '00's era metal..it's got a snarl almost like a Marshall..corresponds to your picking very realistically as well..I have more amp sims than I really need but I'll probably keep this one

[@AvyScottandFlower]

Best of both worlds! A plethora of IR in one's collection, but with the dynamics of a real speaker? Sounds very promising, Bogren plugins are great! *And a LUSH effects section, too

[@peevee605]

I use it for rhythm guitars and it’s crushing. But for leads, I need a more fluid flute sound (Diezel Herbert Ch3) and then it needs at least 2 overdrives in series to come close. IRDX is an absolute must after this plugin.

[@two2ixmusic]

killer tone, deadly riff

[@XiyuYang]

From the looks of it, the IRDX is just a black box placed after the IR block of the ampsim, it models the nonlinearity of speaker cones when driven hard. It's kinda useful I guess.

[@pedrovanzeler1185]

Great video! Are the IRs used in the video from the Mendel IR pack vol. 1?

[@akeyzstudio6620]

hello mr mendel pls can you do a full mix break down one of this days

[@Mendelian]

Please fill in the form in the description, I'm working on a mixing course.

[@Brandon-RZ]

Sounds sick Mendel. Bogren should hire you to be the guy that showcases their plugins over others. Outstanding player, and puts the plug-in through the paces to show what it can actually do. Not trying to throw shade their way but some of these demos that guys are putting out are just so poorly dialed in they make the plug ins sound bad.

[@jacosmith86]

Kazrog Recabinet has a similar dynamics feature. Very similar

[@jimbo121]

this plugin is my new IR loader lol

[@tombscoot9095]

Hi Mendel I just installed the free trial version of the plugin before I could make a judgement of buying and so far I am confused. The reason is because when I go to channels two and three, it doesn't really have the crunch I'm looking for. Keep in mind I also turned on the od's and it still doesn't sound right. I'm running it through reaper and I am wondering if it's a latency issue or an issue on the plugin.

[@thefuse03101]

Sick dude!! What kit did you use on this one? As usual, snare is killer

[@Mendelian]

MixWave JayWeinberg! Did need some Eq’ing but love the sound!

[@thefuse03101]

@@Mendelian nice!

[@pawekowalski510]

Hello, thank you for your test. I can't find midi settings in this plugin. I wanted to use it in Logic and change presets using midi but I can find menu where I can assign chanel number to the specific preset. Do you know how to do it?

[@driftthekaliyuga7502]

Never heard of this company until Decapitated's Cancel Culture playthroughs. If Vogg is playing them I'm interested and Cancel Culture guitar tone is great.

[@shaharbar]

I’m pretty sure Silenoz from Dimmu uses them too…

[@dementisband]

@@shaharbar absolutely, even with his own signature unit ,as vogg does have a signature unit as well. (note : 2 totally different builds)

[@strijkspray4753]

Vraagje: Little off topic, What Desk is that? Im looking for a desk with a Piano/keyboard tray. Thanks ahead

[@Mendelian]

Studio tour coming uo

[@Deguoren96]

Did anyone tried to switch the amp head out in the signal? Im curious how the signal chain would sound with an Neural Amp head and their cab IR

[@hessammehdizadeh3239]

Please do a null test for IRDX

[@DylanYzewyn]

Kan je een studio/bureau tour doen?

[@Mendelian]

Al gefilmd, komt eraan!

[@DylanYzewyn]

@@Mendelian nice! Dank u

[@DylanYzewyn]

​@@Mendelianwanneer zou je de video uploaden?

[@Mendelian]

@DylanYzewyn Gok volgende week

[@roverdrammen3977]

To be honest, the technology and stuff is pretty cool. But most of the demo sounds I'm listening are fine if you want a similar sound to 80's and 90's bands, like Messhugah, Fear Factory, Lamb of God, Ill Niño and so on. If you want a similar sound to Gojira or Periphery or The Black Dahlia Murder, this is not the plugin for it.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

idk, to me this ampsim sounds very different when i play through it. Super percussive, lack of sustain and always feels not enough gain. Testing it for 3rd day. IRDX is cool though.

[@Mendelian]

1. Check your pickup/string distance regarding gain. 2. Did you try channel 3?

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

@@Mendelian yes of course. Every other ampsim I tried is fine.

[@scentia_est]

I i had your mixing skills, i could use plugins that are 15 years old. It wouldn't matter 😊

[@shaharbar]

Too many plugins now… its getting repetitive… interface looks just like Neural and JST plugins…

[@jcalzada74]

Try audio assault you won't brake the bank

[@jackflynn-oakley1937]

TBH though, Neural DSP just nailed the GUI. It’s the amp head, with the cabs, pedals etc at the top. Unless a plugin developer is to go the Valhalla/FabFilter route with amp sims, how else should they do it?

[@burnonethird]

I tried the focusrite and the presonus 24c and 2 different computers. All these pluggins sounds terrible. Static, feedback, terrible distortion. From STL to these guys. None of it sounds like as advertised. Spare yourself the headache. It's all shit. Maybe it sounds good if you spend 2k+ on a computer and audio interface. Other than that, it's all crap.

[@Mendelian]

Sorry to hear that man that plugins aren’t your thing or not working for you. If you need any help let me, glad to help you find the issue.

[@burnonethird]

@@Mendelian Thanks but I've given up. I've went through multiple tech supports and no one can figure it out. In the end, they ignore me and move on. I even tried local computer repair shops, no one wants to touch it. It has been such a headache it almost made me quit guitar totally.

[@Mendelian]

With all honesty, perhaps it could be your room? With me plugins are nearly identical, and even when I do a phase cancel test that nearly cancel each other. That’s ToneX and Neural Amp Modeler.

[@markmalonson7531]

Yea right it's 3 to 4 years away. You still need amps and speakers for monitoring or in ears with tactile transducer . Wonderful dsp modeling though. Stop playing stupid video games you are being programmed to be the fatality Einstein.

[@DeathShark00]

lol wth you on about?

[@markmalonson7531]

@@DeathShark00 mortal combat for Nintendo was the beginning of a subversion(done by covert manipulate satanic sadistic slavers) to the players neurology. Lana del Ray video games or the movie Pixels point. You could tell who was with these groups at SIGGRAPH. Or other gaming code conventions. Their manipulate creepy brainwashed.

[@markmalonson7531]

@@DeathShark00 I could gather this because the way all the programers were bowing with their hands up sarcastically to the agent on the stage making his presentation at the GPU programers conventions. These people complex their intelligence by approaching principle through the rationalization of destruction to others. It ends up tearing them apart. Even a tennis champion has to recover from the psychosis of competition when through their career so to speak. To be careful with the competitive mindset that's the point it's a complex it's also a trick called slavery genocide.

[@DeathShark00]

@@markmalonson7531 ok. But that has to do with a guitar plugin how ? Unless there's something in the video I missed. Otherwise, sounds like you're the one going through psychosis if you're taking this video that seriously

[@markmalonson7531]

You're right it's off topic. But when he labels it can fatality it reminds me of death Star and Darth Vader's balls in sHitler's mouth it's the best video game going.