This bike will eat me alive (CBR650R first impression)

[@benconway8231]

Hey mate, glad your enjoying your riding and going through the tiers in a sensable way. With the corning, get yourself a good set of tyres , start using your body to corner more , get your weight(backside) of the bike, start slowly. youll get used to it. Youll find she will corner better than you think. You wait to you get onto a V4 i have a Tuono, when you open them up its like angels singing. Anyhow enjoy your journey keep it shinny side up and be safe.

[@gutterrashrides]

It's actually on a new set of rossos. I reckon I've just gotta get used to the extra weight and tyre width, but yeah I'll keep pushing it! Cheers for the tips I'll keep it in mind, safe riding!

[@seeingeyegod]

I upgraded from an MT03 to a CBR650F, and I like the way the CBR corners a lot more than I did the MT03 despite it being much heavier. Of course mine has a less aggressive riding position than the one in this video. Compared to the MT though, it feels way more stable and planted and conducive to body positioning. The MT03 was so upright I couldn't really lean my body forward into corners, and also it felt like it was always kind of wobbling around because of the lightness and smaller tires. I didn't really realize it until I rode the CBR and then tried the MT again. Of course I was also constantly bouncing the MT off its rev limiter suddenly XD.

[@ChimeraeBF]

Great bike sir! Mine sadly got stolen. You will get used to the cornering. Just get experience and you will gain confidence. I used to rock the Michelin road 6s on it which helped me a lot as well

[@gutterrashrides]

Aw that sucks! I didn't think people would really be stealing these. Yes I'm enjoying the cornering a bit more, only upwards from here. The road 6s look great, will probably get them for my next set. Right now it's running a new rosso 2 up the front and rosso corsa 2 on the rear (not encouraged, I know, but fine for my tame riding style lol)

[@nightzin05]

I mean, I am still at the A1 license, so I can only ride a 125cc, but let me tell you, the difference you've felt in cornering coming to that bike are probably similar to what i've felt coming from a scooter to a 125, damn was it hard to tip in at first. Quite some time has passed and obviously i can corner my 125 waaay faster than my scooter but i've also tried a r3 and I've felt the exact same thing again. As you said, it is just a matter of weight, tire width and bike design in general, you'll for sure get used to it. Be safe and have fun.

[@thesmithsteron2wheels362]

hiya, own a 2023 cbr650r , still adjusting to the high revving engine, coming from vfr 800f the bike feels so much lighter, also owned rc 390 which your right with slimmer tyres your cornering is far sharper and much lighter bike. Think the cbr is a great sport bike for the road giving power and much more planted around corners once the bike is over.

[@someoneelse1i1i]

I’ve got a 2023 as well. It is indeed a great street bike and very versatile as a daily rider. I enjoy it big time.

[@gutterrashrides]

Oooh nice! If you had to pick would you take the RC390 or the 650R?

[@thesmithsteron2wheels362]

@@gutterrashrides no contest the cbr 650r, ninja 400 or cbr for you ?

[@FlyingMikeProject]

I’m dying to get one of these bikes, definitely haven’t heard these opinions of it yet. Will keep that in mind going forward 😅😂 love the videos bro!

[@gutterrashrides]

They're great, I was just shocked coming from the little bikes 😆 Thank you!

[@someoneelse1i1i]

I’ve had one for about 6 months now and I love it. Very versatile as a daily rider. NOT a supersport but plenty fast (top end likely around 150mph - haven’t been that fast and probably won’t 😜 but have been around 110) and way more comfortable than most bikes in its class.

[@itz_x_salvation395]

The only thing with this bike is how heavy it is. Otherwise it is a great bike. Also trust me on this get a wrs windscreen upgrade for the bike, and a corbin seat makes the bike 100x more comfortable.

[@KrypteiaXi]

its not a supersport. The weight adds to highway stability.

[@rwalton159]

The bike is superbly balanced They used them for track days in the UK. They wouldn't do that if they weren't up to it

[@BW_Drums]

Hey mate, which mirrors are those? Definitely not stock 650R mirrors, but I'd like to get them for mine!

[@gutterrashrides]

Hey man they are zx-10r style mirrors - you can get a better look at em on my walkaround video

[@perculator22]

bro where are you riding? Those roads look lovely!

[@gutterrashrides]

In the dandenongs!

[@peterturner830]

Put the stock bars on to improve the turn in.

[@Gsfbandit93]

Can the warrant places tell its derestricted?

[@stephaneroy3976]

Owner of a 650R, the cutoff of 2nd gear is 140 km/h 😛

[@muhdzawawi954]

hey mate, love your video! i’d love to know what kind of mirror those are because i too own a cbr650r and frankly speaking the stock mirrors are horrendously HUGE. ride safe. peace ✌️

[@ivecentral]

@muhdzawawi954 Those look like the ZX10R-style mirrors that I have on my CBR650R. They have integrated LEDs in them so I hooked them up as my turn signals and blanked out the ones in the stick locations in the fairings.

[@Jayachand9583]

Hi@ gutterrash rides. I’m moving to Melbourne Australia soon and I wonder if I can actually get the hang of super bikes since the speed limit is 110 k mph on highway and even mountain roads have more twisties and less straight stretches. Just couldn’t understand how an super bike enthusiast can experience its power in such conditions ( not considering any race tracks ). Great if you could leave any comment on this . Thanks .

[@hul1ann]

the waze app in question:

[@gutterrashrides]

Hey Jay, there's no real way to legally push a superbike on public roads unfortunately - those things blow the highest speed limits in 1st gear 😆

[@crispyzombieanimation5348]

Yer I think your right about the weight of the bike making it more hard to corner, I think 650's on up are more highway thrashers personally speaking.

[@wobblysauce]

Also, your weight is less, than the ratio of the bike weight of the other bikes so there is less flickable fell to them, slightly different riding style is required as you go up to around 200kg avg. Riden others and I keep coming back to the 650s

[@gutterrashrides]

Yeah bang on, this handles the freeway so much better than the little bikes do

[@wobblysauce]

Well some of the handling feel is also the tyre profile, some are more V and others are U.

[@gogimemon]

Did you say you lost your friend over a tire puncture??

[@KrypteiaXi]

These mirrors are not stock. Where did you get them?

[@MWARIS1]

They look like CBR1000RR mirrors I think

[@silversurfer3457]

You are right that the wider tires need more planning into the corners, and the transverse 4 cylinder resists any change in direction .

[@Knoxvillemoto]

Honestly it does have alot to do with the design of the bike. My RS660 hesitates to turn in at times and tries to fight you. My panigale V4S just falls right into the corners, despite being 30lbs heavier. I've never ridden a cbr 650r. I had put a deposit down on one as my first bike but eventually it became aparent that it was going to be a very long wait time, and I got the RS660 instead. The inline 4 on the cbr does sound incredible though.

[@countryjoe3551]

It sounds like you need to get someone who is very accomplished at suspension setup to tune the suspension on your Aprilia. Either that or change your tires to a new pair that are not worn. Fresh tires transform any motorcycle at tip-in.

[@PapaPalpatine117]

Just you wait my friend, just you wait XD

[@gutterrashrides]

hahah I'm excited

[@AgricUltra]

Pre-order for ‘24 model is in 😉

[@gutterrashrides]

It does look pretty good 👀

[@aprilandsuzi550]

How much power does that 650 have?

[@jay.ostojic]

not sure myself but its an easy google search

[@gutterrashrides]

Probably around 80 whp, not sure entirely sure though as previous owner tuned it

[@BW_Drums]

Depending on the tune, usually as low as 80whp up to 98whp

[@someoneelse1i1i]

95 hp at around 12,000 rpm’s. Not a supersport but about the fastest in its class. Tops out around 150+ but takes awhile to get there😜. Great bike and a versatile daily rider.

[@pauls8456]

Did anyone have a puncture kit?

[@davidjackobigjackosgaming5283]

Did the cops pull u over?

[@gutterrashrides]

Yep 👮🚨

[@mikeadz1]

@@gutterrashridesu get let off? 😂 highway patrol is usually rough

[@BigJackosGaming]

@@gutterrashrides Ohhh Noo

[@gutterrashrides]

Yep I was really worried - there were a few things they could've done us for, but thankfully they were nice

[@Themfeelz]

Why did the cops pull you guys over?

[@gutterrashrides]

Was just a routine stop thankfully

[@jgt_]

@@gutterrashridesThe situation with traffic cops in Australia is wildly authoritarian. Random stops. Double demerit points. A crazy learner system where learners have to abide by different rules, like not being allowed to drive with passengers at night and having lower speed limits on the same roads as other traffic. Utter insanity. This is one of the reasons I wouldn’t go back to Australia to live. It’s shameful.

[@davidbrooks990]

My old 97 CBR600F, is better looking, has about the same horsepower, and handles beautifully,so why change.

[@bouncii7660]

Is it restricted?

[@standupandskate]

Nah he said its been de-restricted

[@paulstack2431]

So are you still on a restricted licence?

[@cherleysledesma2587]

Can you inmagine having your first bike and dont know how to drive and getting your CBR 650r in 1 month 😅 scary im learnong everything from youtube shorts as soon as posible i dont even know how to turn the motorcycle on 😅

[@internet155]

Neat

[@ka124as]

Speaking from a ‘22 cbr600rr, if you can’t figure 8, lock to lock, then it’s probably riding skill that’s keeping you from handling the bike properly. I don’t say this as a knock to you, I say this as I mean you just need to get used to it.

[@Qassu78]

Looking at the specs these new middleweight bikes look actually pretty stupid. That CBR650R has less power and torque than a ten year old CBR600RR and yet it has the wet weight of the 15 year old Fireblade that has almost 100hp more power. I know it's because of tightening emission regulations but still. I feel kind of sad because of the nimble lightweight 600cc class is dying away. Those older 600cc bikes are really thrilling rides and they are there to really eat you alive if you aren't carefull.

[@willfischer5263]

Well it’s a 650 ofc it would have less power and torque of a 600

[@Qassu78]

@@willfischer5263 No, it doesn't have less power than 600cc because it's 650cc. If that would be the only difference the 650cc should and would have more power and more torque wich is practically same on both bikes. The difference is in the compression rate and airflow. CBR650R has less compression and less airflow so it produces less torque compared to it's size and that more restricted airflow lowers the RPM of the peak power and also makes it a lot more usable on the low and mid RPM ranges. We're seeing these new middleweight bikes due to tightening emission restrictions in Europe and U.S. "Big Four" is still producing 600cc supersports but they are mostly only sold in Asia or they aren't street legal in other parts of the world, like Yamaha YZF-R6. Apparently Honda has managed to pass E5 emission regulations for CBR600RR too so at least in Europe we might see that bike too on the market. Due to emission regulations and driver's license classifications, the middleweight class of bikes is, at the same time, a mess yet facinating pack of very different approaches to the problem of sporty yet very efficient bike. I'm a child of an era when emissions didn't matter, more was better and everything with two wheels was there just to kill and eat you. Even our unrestricted 125cc bikes had close to 30hp from their factory tuned 2-stroke engines. 😅 That's why I find these new middle class bikes maybe a bit boring. Not because they aren't fine machines wich they are.

[@ReddyHHH210]

Ofcourse cbr650r is a sports tourer , cbr600rr is a track bike.

[@vinicandidoc]

@@ReddyHHH210it’s 2023 and people still don’t see the difference between the supersport and sport touring, and from now I think they’ll never see it btw

[@gutterrashrides]

Eh, the 650R isn't a substitute for the 600RR. The 600RR makes more power but it's all at the top - you don't get to use much of it when you're commuting, touring or chilling so there are applications where the 650R would be preferred by some

[@productamadeus8745]

It’s a 650. You make it sound like it’s a leiter bike.

[@leoson8194]

I have the cb650f, same engine and I can tell you my bike is much louder than any other liter bikes in my city. Reason for that is that the cat is small and inside the exhaust pipes, whereas all liter bikes after 2014 have a big cat that muffels the sound. Obviously a liter bike will beat a Cb650 in every category except for comfort and price.