North facing is the standard in prebuilts because the standard placement of letters in the keycap is at the top, which puts the led right below the shine-through letter. There is a noticeable difference in the lighting with north and south facing keybs.
@nearLucid2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for north facing if the main target is RGB shine through keycaps. But when a company approaches us (a strictly custom reviewer), markets the board towards enthusiasts, and gives us a bunch of features we need, all except one, there's an issue.
@Nehimsupacac2 жыл бұрын
@@nearLucid great point. Gotta know your market
@Ray.F2 жыл бұрын
@@nearLucid Could it be possible that a north facing PCB is readily available from OEMS, so it is necessary to drive the cost down as it is "cheaper"?
@S0liD4CE2 жыл бұрын
still wouldn't call it a flaw, just different market (Asia, as mentioned already mostly using keycaps other than cherry and switches to suit eg akko kailh box ,long pole.) just my 2c as noob observing this hobby watching creators from many different countries.
@PTNOPOT2 жыл бұрын
@@nearLucid Ironically, most consumer friendly keycaps (non GMK) don't have the same interference issues as GMK
@CB-kf9up2 жыл бұрын
People who are interested in a board at that price range won't care for overpriced GMK caps anyway. North facing is so over-dramatized at this point. There's so many interesting cap profiles and longpole stem switches that make it a non-issue.
@jeezerbrudhsiosana93662 жыл бұрын
True, and most gmk clones avoid interference anyways
@mintlata2 жыл бұрын
1. Not only GMK makes Cherry profile keycaps. NicePBT, XMI, ePBT, the list goes on 2. What if I want to use 4.0mm travel switches? This board can just make a south-facing PCB, hell remove the LED if that's what it takes, and I'll recommend this board to every beginner to the hobby.
@lukehTM2 жыл бұрын
@@mintlata its funny because many of the higher end boards that use south facing dont even have rgb
@mintlata2 жыл бұрын
@@lukehTM yeah, most people chase after high end boards because of sound signature, typing feel, or a certain design that they like.
@lukehTM2 жыл бұрын
@@mintlata then i think rgb should be valued more, because while i agree south facing rgb would be better, most south facing boards dont even have it to begin with, I'd much rather have north facing with some rgb rather than south facing with none
@SamBoga2 жыл бұрын
To Be fair, I never found north facing a big issue. Especially for the newbies who wouldn't notice the interference thingy that much with cherry profile Keycaps. But we now have a lot of Switches and keycaps alternative in the market to avoid this issue altogether. To me, gas 67 felt like the gateway board for the newbies in the keyboard hobby.
@carlangelo6532 жыл бұрын
It's depends on your keycaps and switches. For some unlucky combinations of keycaps and switches it's extremely loud interference.
@hantuan1072 жыл бұрын
there is recently something called "ozing" washers that can be installed on the stem of the switches which will help preventing the inteference with north facing boards.
@conutux7222 жыл бұрын
The same installation as like o rings?
@hantuan1072 жыл бұрын
@@conutux722 yes but unlike orings this wont shorten the travel distance
@aar01232 жыл бұрын
Love the new editing style can't wait to see more of it
@Spacebarf Жыл бұрын
Akko CS series switches in my experience (Jelly blacks and Rose Reds) do not have any interference with cherry profile keycaps. While I prefer south facing. I still got a GAS67 (in green, I put some lubed Akko Jelly Blacks and BOW cherry keycaps) because you wont find a gasket mounted keeb this cheap anywhere else. It sounds fantastic, looks fantastic. RGB shines through the PC plate beautifully. The PE foam sheet gives it a real nice creamy/poppy sound. Lots of reviews out there if you want to hear some sound tests. the flex is awesome with the gaskets if you apply them right. Lucid was a little sloppy with his install :P
@a15bionic59 Жыл бұрын
Thock or clack?
@blegh277 Жыл бұрын
Akko switches have longer stems which avoids the north facing interference
@a15bionic59 Жыл бұрын
Actually the jelly blacks are the only akko switch that doesnt have a shortened travel or a long pole, which could cause interference, but i guess the cherry keycaps u got were very thin
@a15bionic59 Жыл бұрын
@@blegh277 its not the longer stem, its the shortened travel on lots of akko switches
@matasa74632 жыл бұрын
I really think the lack of VIA/QMK is also a big flaw. I would give it a 9/10 if it had VIA support or QMK compatibility.
@onezeee2 жыл бұрын
honestly this fatal flaw isn't even that bad because of gateron pro switches. if you're buying a $60 board, you're most likely getting budget switches and keycaps, and that means that gateron pro milky yellows are your best choice. smooth, tight, and pre-lubed nearly as good as manual lubing. and those switches have molds which prevent north facing interference. edit: that flex is good wtf are you talking about my bakeneko65 doesnt flex that much(given it is foam modded and two layers of tape but still)
@AvinashKunjamboo2 жыл бұрын
New pacing and build segment is nutty asf love your work as always fellas
@nearLucid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sm man!
@jonathansmith47372 жыл бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised by CIY as a brand, I picked up the Tester68 as a media keyboard for my TV.
@oglothenerd5 ай бұрын
Why is it so hard to actually find a video about premium keyboards!?
@chendusingh2 жыл бұрын
Legit the best keyboard videos I've ever watched. Keep at it my man. You're going to blow up.
@rizqyhbb Жыл бұрын
In Indonesia there is a brand working with GAS67 with the price of USD 83. The good thing is they change the board to south facing and add wireless connection (2.4 ghz) also with great keycaps quality. If you want to check the product search for Press Play Voyager 68 v2
@Amiro052 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see this era of nearlucid!! Great video :)
@J7T8002 жыл бұрын
I just got notified 2 days ago that it's officially in stock, but I was still hesitant because of the lack of reviews. I'm glad you were able to review the kit.
@thanhanle38792 жыл бұрын
A temporary solution for north facing boards + cherry profile keycaps is washers. I was able to find a 0.5mm thickness washer from Payson( a big vendor specialized in keyboard accessories in China) for 3$/110pcs. Another option you can consider is using Gateron switches. Most of their new switches using new top housing design which prevent interference with cherry caps( having tested on my Epbt wob and it was great)
@Mars21681 Жыл бұрын
additionally there are many reasons north facing has become the standard. more to that, manufactures are realizing the need to make switch housings that allow for the spacing such as Gateron oil kings. there's also franken switches, and switches with taller stems... so there are many options and ways to have your cake and eat it too. so I no longer worry about north or south facing personally.
@cutcorners60052 жыл бұрын
use gateron oil king, that addresses the north facing. It's not a big deal really. Overall, no one is going to use gmk on a $60 board though. The china pbt cherry caps mostly do not have interference.
@20vAE862 жыл бұрын
Just want to let you know you didn’t quite use what most people would expect as a long pole switch. Yes the mints have a ever so slightly long pole but the bottom housing compensates for that so the switch still bottoms out at 4mm. It’s the same thing for creams in their stock housing. You should be testing with long pole switches that have a 3.5-3.8mm travel distance as I believe that’s what most of the community would expect from “long pole”. Those will also eliminate the interference you experienced.
@bajafishtaco2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was looking for this comment.
@nearLucid2 жыл бұрын
The point was to show that not all long poles are built equal, and some, like MCCs, do still have interference.
@20vAE862 жыл бұрын
@@nearLucid it just seems a bit misleading. You mention long pole switches and still run into interference problems but didn’t mention it still bottoms out at 4mm. For the type of community member looking at this type of board they might not know these finer details as this is priced at entry level.
@SomberP2 жыл бұрын
4:25 Bro came in typing AGGRESSIVE lol
@DoctaPanda822 жыл бұрын
I customized a CIY X77 keyboard from Amazon with a north-facing pcb. It too has north-facing interference with cherry profile even with long-pole stem switches.
@arethas65372 жыл бұрын
Long pole alone doesn’t always guarantee to negate the interference. However, long pole +
@DoctaPanda822 жыл бұрын
@@arethas6537 Hey! Thanks for that bit of info! Really helpful.
@JP3Gl2 жыл бұрын
Been looking for something to be custom but also have the rgb i want for a gaming board. This is a definite must buy for me 😁
@yuwanchu2 жыл бұрын
my heart sunk when i hear North facing LED
@unattributed16412 жыл бұрын
You have it WRONG! South facing LEDs aren't the answer, getting switch manufacturers to make the switch shell so it can be installed in north or south orientation is the better solution, and is being done by some of the switch manufacturers now. Also, of you use key caps that are 1.3-1.4mm you won't have this issue, but that can be a bit of a trade-off sound wise.
@wkang27582 жыл бұрын
There are certain properties of old switches and switch molds that make them sound or feel better, and some people just prefer them over the newer batches. Granted for the market that this board and other north facing boards is going for, I doubt they’ll care about the older stuff, so your argument does have a point. Most enthusiasts deeper in the hobby don’t care for RGB tho, and they’re the ones paying an arm and a leg for switches, so if the manufacturers have no benefit to making new molds for a market that is likely less willing to pay for switches, I guess thing’s will just stay the same. Just food for thought.
@ljtech202 жыл бұрын
Your production quality is inspiring. Keep up the great work!
@ADPenrose2 жыл бұрын
If everything goes according to plan, I'm gonna design a south-facing, QMK/VIA/VIAL compatible hotswap PCB with some layout options for this board soon. This keeb is just a few steps away from being THE budget keyboard.
@a15bionic59 Жыл бұрын
Please do it i will buy it asap.
@dico81992 жыл бұрын
Damn a crazy board for the money
@justanotherpxrson2 жыл бұрын
Watch - they add south facing, make it $100+
@aerocreates2 жыл бұрын
so awesome, i was looking for this!
@SnurtleLive Жыл бұрын
Seriously good content! I saw a sound test of this board with I think KTT Strawberries. Sounded amazing and I definitely think that I'll get this as opposed to something like the NK65 or the ID67 lite. I think even with the flaws, me not using GMK sets and no Cherry profile caps makes me really want to get this board. Thanks for improving my day!
@PhantmZero2 жыл бұрын
north facing is not a problem for keyboards made in china and/or made for a chinese audience because cherry profile is not the most common there so interference is also not a problem there. i'm even a little shocked that interference is still a problem in 2022, gateron has made switch top housings that are interference free for 10 years or so now.
@craigmeister12412 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that it is so easy to fix. I have cherry keycaps that I simply put a small piece of paper into to stop the interference, and there is pretty much no interference in my board.
@EZONART2 жыл бұрын
Got this kit, and also did my noob review/build video. I don't know if I placed the gaskets right, but I got more flex since I placed just one on top of the bottom case. Nice solid review btw. 😁
@N00TBond2 жыл бұрын
In most asian countries, it only costs 30-40 dollars. keebmoney is probably also factoring in the price for shipping from asia to NA. That's what I think at least.
@_ExTitus2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when they'd put this on the market. It felt like there should be a slightly less cheap version of the tes68 (kbm68) with a usb-c. I personally didn't start ordering cherry profile keycaps until I found groupbuys much later in the hobby and I figure alot of introductory keyboard hobbyists might want their gamer rgb. It's good for something at the very beginner friendly price.
@AUFartool2 жыл бұрын
tes84
@ThatCoasterEnthusiast2 жыл бұрын
This exists, it's called a tes84
@iamdaone78732 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS VID IS INSANE !!!1!1!11!
@LilDozyXD2 жыл бұрын
when i first heard thew tping test I was like "I swear he didn't put clicky switches in..." then I realized there was interfearence
@SubterraneanChick2 жыл бұрын
JKD’s Mint Chocs are probably my fav 2021 Switch gb for out of the box sound quality.
@freendysinaga9762 Жыл бұрын
i cannot find any content creator talking about the software of this keyboard. is there a software to change fuctions or keys?
@Akeynote2 жыл бұрын
New mic? Voice has a little more thock in this one 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🤣
@solaufein Жыл бұрын
this keyboard is totally perfect
@kafaims Жыл бұрын
for people who can use taobao is like 25-30 bucks now
@nell_dctm68022 жыл бұрын
Doesn't using other caps profile remove the interference?
@temporoyale62512 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest flaw is that it does not support QMK
@bacondoesthings1232 жыл бұрын
i know that interference is a thing that most enthusiasts want to avoid, but to be fair... north facing interference is pretty overdramatized these days, after all, there are lots of switches with long poles, and fillets, avoiding interference almost entirely. i also wouldn't call this a "fatal flaw" because... 1. keebheads in china, where ciy is based, tend to like sa/mg/any other high keycap profile more than any other profile, (and vice versa everywhere else), so i think ciy didn't think about interference issues, since china likes high profiles anyway. 2. lower pitched sound profiles (thock) have become really popular these days, and one of the things that make a keyboard sound deep is a tall keycap profile. so, again, there might be a chance that ciy just didn't think about it because of the "thock" craze. i really hope this changes your mind, if not, lets you see another person's perspective on this board. i still agree that it would be much better if ciy/weikav thought 2 steps ahead and made the pcb south facing. thanks, and sorry for my bad phrasing. i usually write much better than this, but i'm a little tired right now. :)
@rcradiator2 жыл бұрын
Needing to use something other than cherry profile isn't really a big deal. I'm aware that people with GMK sets will want to use them on whatever board they have, and this board doesn't do nicely with cherry profile without either the paper in keycap stem hole mod or long pole stems. But in my opinion, people focus way too much on cherry profile when there are other profiles that are just as interesting, comfortable to type on, and with with north facing switch orientation perfectly fine.
@HarvindG2 жыл бұрын
The GAS67 really is an excellent board for the price. Something like this at $60 would be unheard of a couple of years ago. It's a great time to be a budget keyboard enthusiast.
@user-xk2tv5ft5g2 жыл бұрын
mf its 30 dollars on taobao
@HarvindG2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xk2tv5ft5g Depending on where you live. In Asia, yes it's 30. In the EU, shipping from Taobao involves a forwarder fee which brings the cost up.
@user-xk2tv5ft5g2 жыл бұрын
@@HarvindG sea shipping exists my friend
@Hoang-fg2zq2 жыл бұрын
:3 we only paid 42$ include shipping in vn for this kit
@megadeth85922 жыл бұрын
North facing ain't no deal breaker.
@Abhishek_Pal Жыл бұрын
Great review, Do you know the shortcut of how to change the Profiles on this CIY GAS67 ?
@viktoriyarts2 жыл бұрын
kinda sounds like light rain, nice :3
@altern8tr2 жыл бұрын
I mean cant i replace the pcb with another 67 key south facing one and just screw the windows button disable thing
@dex45792 жыл бұрын
XDA profile caps would work the KTT switches right?
@slushie89592 жыл бұрын
Loved the review, I was looking to get this board and was wondering if it works with Mac since I have a MacBook. Thanks!
@JerelTeh2 жыл бұрын
I saw this on Taobao months ago
@CGBuild2 жыл бұрын
Now this is my kind of keyboard..
@vincecyrellbraga308 Жыл бұрын
how does this compare to the mw65? Could you give your thoughts? I'm leaning more on the mw65 since it's southfacing but huge drawback is the lack of stock stabilizers and it does not include a coiled cable, unlike the gas67
@saidryu2 жыл бұрын
You should review the Akko mod 005. Also love the insane quality of your videos, keep up the good work my guy.
@8cto12 жыл бұрын
would you say that this keyboard is better than a gk64 with foam, lubed switches and stabs, and holee mod?
@cgy32 жыл бұрын
This is $30 on taobao which is absurd, the amount of keyboard you get is crazy for the price
@jeezerbrudhsiosana93662 жыл бұрын
I use a board with a north facing pcb and cherry keycaps and it had interference but I found a way to fix it, I just put a small peice of paper inside the keycap stem Here's the video where I learned it from: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKjahXaEYsh9h7s
@Jason101--- Жыл бұрын
Is this the Wireless one or the Wired one
@kylechan84452 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, OLKB doesn't have their north-facing keyswitch washers in stock at the moment. Otherwise, I would recommend getting those for these kinds of boards, as the pcb is the only issue I have with this board.
@93ksj Жыл бұрын
I need to know what deskmat that is
@norina.s Жыл бұрын
try the gmk67!!
@TheTony02 жыл бұрын
why does the sound of the board remind me of glass cracking
@ThockyDocKey2 жыл бұрын
Agree! Still cant get over the price of this board. Near perfect indeed near lucid! :)
@pizzapr9287 Жыл бұрын
How is the flex compared to a kbd67 lite?
@datboyandrei2 жыл бұрын
Once again, such good production, how does this guy only have 20k?! Also, it's great that you reviewed the GAS67, this board is really nice for its price, it helps that you explained its features so well when I show this to other people. I still think I would recommend this to my mates mostly because I feel like they will gravitate towards more budget switches which some are compatible now with north-facing like some of the Akko switches and the gateron pro series.
@Amm6ie Жыл бұрын
does anybody know if this is able to do per key rgb? i have the switches that light up but not sure how to get it to work
@sheeeple2069 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to the hobby, can you recommend me a $60 keyboard that has a south-facing board?
@fearthesmurfs Жыл бұрын
Do the standard software's work for this?
@ehtx4202 жыл бұрын
I have a video idea you should do the TTC tiger switches they are stock and they are the most perfect sounding switches in the world if you have time if you don’t I completely understand
@Cpmnk2 жыл бұрын
North facing isnt really an issue tgese days imo
@rizqyhbb Жыл бұрын
Does it has driver to remap keys or change combination fn keys?
@conutux7222 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a rebuild with switches that don’t have interference?
@Yotikzz2 жыл бұрын
When did the board arrive
@soyed4691 Жыл бұрын
my daughter board connection isnt working, do you know why
@tisthegreat74202 жыл бұрын
Did you lube the leaves for the tactile switches? is it just me or am i hearing ticking
@Missing012 жыл бұрын
When your keycaps more expensive than your board
@ethqxn2 жыл бұрын
where are the marbled mousepads from?
@scufed2 жыл бұрын
nice video!
@advaykumar24772 жыл бұрын
How long did your gas67 take to ship?
@husainyard2 жыл бұрын
Hey, does it support for Mac?
@diegozarate97282 жыл бұрын
How long did it take for the keyboard to arrive?
@syroptruskawkowy2 жыл бұрын
great video, but was just wondering how do long pole stems help with interference?
@bacondoesthings1232 жыл бұрын
yes, they do! long poles like boba u4t/lt stems help stop cherry profile+north facing interference.
@wkang27582 жыл бұрын
Was this company allowed to use the design of the Ginkgo65 for this? I’d understand if the design was simple but the bevels on the top are pretty iconic. Genuine question, I havent read too deep into this board. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
@JadeZen5202 жыл бұрын
Unless the manufacturer gets called out, they can still thread on the thin and risky line. Take akko for example, their recent acrylic board (which is totally a ripoff of ikki68) is still out there in production.
@wkang27582 жыл бұрын
@@JadeZen520 That's a good point, it seems Wuque boards are popular to ripoff. perhaps it has something to do with Chinese copyright laws too, seeing that Wuque, Akko and CIY are all Chinese
@rychhhh2 жыл бұрын
im curious if a kbd67 lite pcb would fit in this case and allow for cherry profile keycaps to be used
@arethas65372 жыл бұрын
KBD67Lite PCB doesn’t have a daughterboard and its USB port is soldered on the left side
@hornedowl_2 жыл бұрын
Please review the feker jjk84 Its 30 dollars
@thestreamreader2 жыл бұрын
QMK Support?
@ganeeeshhh2 жыл бұрын
amazing contente bro !!! i have a question.. if i had to choose between this and kdb 67 lite v3 which one would you recommend .. it's my first build
@taduyminhnghia182 жыл бұрын
Kbd lite’s price is twice as much...
@ganeeeshhh2 жыл бұрын
@@taduyminhnghia18 i found at same ...
@sayacee5813 Жыл бұрын
nkey roll over?
@S85B50Engine2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how hard it would be to use other PCB's on that board, that should in theory mostly fix the issues it has.
@cutcorners60052 жыл бұрын
Its a pointless effort. The entire point of this product is price. You add to it, there is no value to be had. There are plenty switches right now that have no problem with interference.
@pockykeebs2 жыл бұрын
most cherry profile keycaps also comes from group buys. I don't see anyone using 100$+ keycaps on a 60$ board. also long pole switches can fix the interference 👍🏻
@S85B50Engine2 жыл бұрын
@@cutcorners6005 talking mostly about the manu
@renneruYT2 жыл бұрын
I got DIY - kited
@iVilliain2 жыл бұрын
The keycaps cost twice the board.
@danzo55212 жыл бұрын
I wish I could hear how the board sounds but your typing is so fast that it all blurs together into a single sound
@standavies6272 жыл бұрын
nice
@MatzyKun Жыл бұрын
the only fatal flaw, it doesnt support qmk.
@raph4852 Жыл бұрын
Try leaven k620 12$ Hot swappable mechanical keyboard
@jgould30 Жыл бұрын
Where for $12? See it for $30's and it's basically the same crappy 60% with hot swap red switches as a bunch of other similar boards.
@raph4852 Жыл бұрын
@@jgould30 what are you blabbering about lmao
@jtgjustin Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy it if it was south facing, I need to see the letters shine through at night