This Bonkers Film Got RUINED by its Ending

[@lordpelagius5078]

i love the idea that the wolf refused to come back to set like "i refuse to work with that duck"

[@Bluecho4]

Understandable. Ducks are _mean._

[@alyzu4755]

Yes, that was obviously a fowl working environment.

[@Rick586]

\o

[@impposter560]

A wolf with standards 😤

[@hkr667]

Actors can be such divas

[@evangeline77x]

"Never stray from the path, never eat a wind fallen apple and never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle" has lived rent free in my head for 30 years lol.

[@spikeoramathon]

Me too! but I forgot it was Angela Lansbury, lol.

[@C.L.Hinton]

I told my mother that line and she was like, "That explains a lot about your father." 🤣 But seriously, this movie was my least favorite for DECADES.

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

Same here, this movie was not great but I've never forgotten that line. It's sound advice. Right up there with Conan the Barbarian's list of the best things in life.

[@cooperminion825]

The last line is good advice in general. If a dude doesn't bother to trim his unibrow, you shouldn't trust him. Dude's shady af

[@CorbCorbin]

Don’t piss into the wind.

[@CRandyGamble]

My favorite part of the visuals is how the "wolves" are supposed to be scary but the dogs they used look so happy! Just a bunch of well fed, well groomed, happy doggos getting to be actors with their friends. So cute!

[@MrDj232]

And one wolf traumatized by a single quack.

[@CRandyGamble]

@@MrDj232 LOL!! The duck was the scariest beast on set!

[@dorianleakey]

wolves are like that too though, they dont wander round trying to look scary

[@scribblefoxstories]

Honestly, if I happened to cross paths with a pack of happy, fluffy doggos masquerading as wolves and found myself with the opportunity to become one of them and assimilate into the pack - especially when I was twelve - I’d have probably been like “hell to the yes, let’s go!” 😋🐺💚

[@Mikey_Clarkie]

The doggies were having a lot of fun on that movie.

[@operationgoldfish8331]

This movie was made shortly after An American Werewolf in London. It had a much lower budget and was applauded for how they managed to get comparable effects on a shoestring. I saw it in the cinema, without having read the original stories, so I didn't find the ending particularly out of phase with the rest. The sequence that precedes the main character 'waking up' is a surreal vision of the pack of wolves chasing through her family home, and I always thought that the wolf crashing through the window was just a continuation of the dream. Looked at this way, it's not her being 'dominated', but a foreshadowing of the chaos of puberty; the time during which we have to learn to tame 'the beast', which her mother earlier tells her is in both men and women.

[@darkartsandcrafts7996]

Agreed. I always interpreted the wolf coming to smash all her childhood toys and therefore heralding the end of childhood.

[@karol1986]

@@darkartsandcrafts7996 exactly. Or even fear of losing virginity?

[@NeriSiren]

@@darkartsandcrafts7996Basically, the opposite of Labyrinth (1986), which ends with the similar-looking dark-haired fourteen-year-old Jennifer Connolly partying it up with all her new Muppet friends, her glittery toys and costumes all fully intact, having told the (albeit VERY hot) Goblin King that he (and, presumably, the pressure to Grow Up) *Has No Power Over Her*.

[@b1merio]

As a man with eyebrows that meet in the middle, I feel personally attacked.

[@Rei-Rei]

But are you a werewolf?

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

Yeah. I also felt a lot of “men are evil by default” in the narrative. I’m all for female empowerment, but the movie didn’t go about it correctly.

[@jellywillreturn]

@@Joseph_Drew_IIIYou’re taking the grandmother’s point of view as the movie’s message, she’s meant to be only one viewpoint influencing the hero.

[@dorianleakey]

its literally been proven by the film with facts and logic you are a werewolf and YOU feel like the victom?!?!?

[@typacsk]

You think this is bad -- have you ever gone in for a haircut, and they waxed your eyebrow(s) *without you asking for it?!*

[@mathieuleader8601]

Angela Lansbury's Granny is how I picture Nanny Ogg from the Discworld books in my head and how she would look on TV.

[@jacksampsonforever]

oh God yes!!! She'd have been the BEST

[@mirjanbouma]

I have to respectfully disagree. I can't see her (Angela) that... How do I say this... Unabashed about the pleasures of the flesh?

[@myuphrid]

Not in the company of wolves, though - Greebo would have chased them all off.

[@avosmash2121]

She does land her vibe well. But isn't Nanny Ogg supposed to be kind of thick? Like a snarky, dirty humored, partying version of Muriel from Courage the Cowardly Dog?

[@ruthbennett7563]

GNU Sir Terry ❤

[@mathieuleader8601]

Seeing that wolf leap out of that mans mouth made me think of the two wolves inside you meme

[@TriforceWisdom64]

Inside you are two wolves. One is currently leaving.

[@gummybread]

The other has eyebrows that meet in the middle

[@lisah-p8474]

Inside you are two wolves... one of them is late to an eyebrow waxing appointment.

[@Rhiorrha]

Inside of you there are 2 wolves. What the hell did you DO last night?!

[@thehellyousay]

it's not a meme, it's a cultural proverb.

[@mathieuleader8601]

Speaking of Little Red Riding Hood I always remember being read Roald Dahl's version in primary school where Red guns down the wolf by withdrawing a pistol from her nickers.

[@qwopiretyu]

An armed society is a polite society

[@MrDj232]

Based Red Riding Hood.

[@harrybechtle4333]

Ruby rose

[@avosmash2121]

Laughs in American...no. Sorry.😅 ​@@qwopiretyu

[@spiceupyourafterlife]

From her WHERE?!

[@alyhoffman2643]

Not a horror movie, but has Angela Lansbury as a princess- "The Court Jester". It's a lot of fun.

[@LordVolkov]

She's so melodramatic in Court Jester. Every time she pops up is a hoot.

[@6Haunted-Days]

Yea DUH it’s called magical realism. Why are so few that have any kind of literary knowledge around anymore? Just a shame. And it’s not a kids movie either.

[@Blueberryyymuffin]

I love The Court Jester. My favourite Danny Kaye film

[@rachelsyrup]

I LOOOOVE the Court Jester! Enthusiastically seconded. 😍

[@darkartsandcrafts7996]

The brew that is true and the flagon with the dragon lives rent free in my mind

[@Zorajit]

I guess the lesson is that metaphorical wolves are cool and powerful but also there are very literal wolves you should not let …um… break through your glass windows

[@nilus2k]

The real wolves are the friends we made along the way. Who then jump through our window and eat us

[@Cobralalalala]

Fun fact: the wolves are actually Belgian sheep dogs, mostly Tervurans. My grandma was a prominent Tervuran breeder and knew the person who bred those dogs (maybe the trainer too). My first knowledge of this movie was her telling me about hat when we were watching the BBC production of of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, which also used Tervs as wolves. 🙂

[@jonothanthrace1530]

I'll never forget the wolfman's letter to Lucy being narrated by said wolfman and ending with a hammy growl.

[@JurassicReptile]

she literally said that in the video

[@junibug6790]

@@JurassicReptile She actually said "Belgian Shepards", which generally refers to Malinois (who are also the goodest boys/girls when they're not being mali-gators).

[@Anon26535]

What is it with the BBC and tervs, anyway?

[@AllofTimeandSpace]

The Magic Toyshop is another Angela Carter movie worth checking out with similar themes to The Company of Wolves. It has some very creepy puppets including a scene with a swan puppet that will make you never see swans the same way again. I think it’s available on KZbin to watch.

[@jackfriend4u]

would love for "The Magic Toyshop" to finally be given some remastered Blu-ray treatment...it's been all but forgotten and very rare to find an actual copy-though i do think there's a copy of the whole film here, but the image is so washed out it makes it a hard viewing experience.

[@ThisMagicHouse]

No mention that director Neil Jordan went on to direct such films as "The Crying Game" and "Interview with a Vampire"?

[@eriebeverly]

And he only got "Interview with a Vampire" because Anne Rice loved this movie so much.

[@lisah-p8474]

Stephen Rea of The Crying Game was the first husband in Granny's tales, too. (His head ended up in the milk. That guy.)

[@FrithonaHrududu02127]

This movie he getting his feet under him, but he went on to make some good movies.

[@kevinkino400]

Also the Production Designer went on to work on 1989 Batman because Tim Burton loved this movie.

[@kellswitch]

Oh my god I would LOVE to see you cover 80's werewolf movies! It's amazing how big werewolves were in the 80's. I'm sure that says something about the times, but I am not sure what.

[@auldthymer]

It was a dog-eat-dog world Society was unleashed Everybody strayed from the path ?

[@avosmash2121]

YES

[@ilikecurry2345]

Speaking of 80s werewolf movies, The Howling II: Your Sister is a Werewolf. I'd also refer to it by its first name, but KZbin doesn't like that word, possibly a result of the CEO being afraid of being called that word.

[@FucTrump]

There are multiple interpretations. I have a theory that the fact that three hugely succeful werewold movies came out in 1981 was linked to the politics of the moment. That scumbag Regan had just been elected and the country made the terrible transformation from the previous decades of left wing prosperity to ensuing decades of right wing tyranny. Other than that, being the 80s, you could read the werewolf fascination as either a cocaine addiction metaphor or an AIDS metaphor, or both.

[@georgemetcalf8763]

My Stepmother is A Werewolf. That could be a fun review.

[@AI-dp3rd]

Oh my god! The movie based on Angela Carter's stories ... I've never seen it, but the story is one of my favorites. The complete collection of Carter's short stories, "Burning Your Boats," is very much worth buying or checking out at the library. ("The Fall River Axe Murders" is my personal favorite.)

[@tenebrousoul9368]

Fudge you, whatever I was doing. Roses just dropped

[@colinwhitfield8627]

oh. ditto.

[@graygarrison2692]

Even though He is uncredited Terrance Stamp plays as The Devil in this bizarre Movie.@@colinwhitfield8627

[@graygarrison2692]

Sad to know that Angela Lansbury died in 2022 at age 96 She was a chain smoker in real life so She probably died from lung cancer but unknown if that is true or not She quit smoking in the mid 1960’s in 1976 and in 1987 She went underwent thorough cosmetic surgery on Her neck to prevent it from broadening with Her age. She started to suffer from Arthritis during The 1990’s and had hip replacement on May 1994 and knee replacement surgery in 2005 so unknown what She actually sadly passed away from.@@colinwhitfield8627

[@JohannesVanDerStuyvebode]

Roses is KZbin-priority

[@jamesa.romano8500]

I found this to be genuinely unsettling when I watched it as a teenager. The scenes with the Huntsman Werewolf probably hit closest to the nerve of Charles Perrault's original message. Also, it's coincidental, but the way the Huntsman appeared during his final scene acting as a predator towards Rosaleen, he looked like some kind of modern day serial killer expy, with his long hair and bushy eyebrows and creepy stare coming off a lot like Richard Ramirez or Rodney Alcala. It hit very close to home through a modern lens

[@lucykenward3857]

How about reviewing some of the classic TV series Jim Henson's "the storyteller"? Pretty sure you've already seen it but I'd love to hear you talk about it! Also the episode with a young Sean Bean in it is just wonderful. Spooky, fairy tales gothic, 90s, puppets... Seems like a good fit 😃

[@TheMakeupChair]

The thumbnail creeped me out so much 🙈 great story though and I love how you tell them ❤️

[@Spiderplant1185]

Same. I thought it looked a little like Bill Hader!

[@DoorsInTheLabyrinth]

Angela Carter actually worked on the screenplay with Neil Jordan on that, not just based on her stories! Which is probably why the new elements work so well. I'm a big fan of both. Neil Jordan went on to do some of my favorite films (High Spirits, Michael Collins, The Butcher Boy, In Dreams, Ondine), and I love this one, it was his second film so a little bit of the awkwardness is understandable. That and a lower budget, of course. The ending was sort of ruined by the budget/time. In Carter's screenplay, when the wolves attack, Rosaleen dives into the floor as if it were water. A surreal "did she really wake up?" take on it. However, you can read the end in another way, albeit still ambiguous. One of the big complaint of "it was only a dream" stories is that they aren't "real" (which is silly, none of it is). I don't dislike that trope; I like dream stories and otherworlds in general. But the hallmark of a strong dream story vs a weaker one is: did the character learn anything from the experience? And that's the question the ending asks, but does not answer. She dreams, and has these experiences, takes control and finds her agency as she enters adulthood. When she wakes, adulthood comes crashing in, and we are left to wonder if she learned from that dream, or if she just becomes a victim. Asking that question is asking did the dream accomplish the purpose, and by extension, did the stories, the fairy tales we read, accomplish the purpose of preparing us for the horrors of the world that may come crashing in? I think that question is consistent with the rest of Carter's works, and the ending doesn't ruin the film for me quite as much. it's also possible I just spend too much time thinking about this stuff, but I love fairy tales and dreams and fantasy/horror movies that touch upon them. Don't even get me started on Legend (my favorite movie ever)

[@darkartsandcrafts7996]

I agree with you and I like your take on whether she learned from her dream or not. I never thought of that aspect and I always just thought it was another dream that heralded the end of childhood. To me, the wolf coming through the window of more interested in wrecking her toys vs eating Rosaleen. Hope your comment gets higher up in the thread. Funny enough, Legend is also one of my childhood favorites.

[@DoorsInTheLabyrinth]

@@darkartsandcrafts7996 That's an excllent point, with the wolf wrecking the toys! Definitely adds to the end-of-childhood symbolism! I absolutely obsess over Legend, and have since it came out! I've easily rewatched that more than any other movie!

[@NinjaRunningWild]

Excellent analysis! And I also love Legend. I saw that in the theater when I was 7 & Darkness terrified me & I wanted to understand why. I was already stalking my own thoughts & reactions. Then later, I became obsessed with the nature of good & evil. Go figure! You should start a blog or podcast yourself. You'd probably have some interesting insights. I always saw Legend as a film adaptation of Milton’s Paradise Lost with unicorns being the forbidden fruit.

[@DoorsInTheLabyrinth]

@@NinjaRunningWild thanks for the kind words! I just like to spend too much time thinking about the things I like! There's definitely a "fall from grace/innocence" theme in Legend, and one of the things I like about it is how complex of a character Lily is. On one hand, it is innocence, but on the other hand, she's starting from a place of entitlement. Clearly from a wealthy background (and explicitly a princess in the director's cut), so she's not thinking of consequences. She doesn't even know it's wrong to touch them until Jack tells her afterwards. But when she sets about trying to make things right, she does, having even the presence of mind to fool Darkness, knowing he will kill her for it. To the audience, it seems that she turns, but she never actually does, quickly getting over her shock and manipulating Darkness to give the unicorn a chance. She can't know about Jack's plan, beyond trusting that he'll try to do something, just as she is. ....as I said, I can spend way too much time babbling about that movie! it's my very favorite!

[@AmanCreatesArt]

I love your take! And Legend is awesome! 👏🏽

[@DaveTpletsch]

I would LOVE it if you'd review the Never Ending Story 2. The first one is also wierd and traumatic, but also is interesting and I think fairly well done and consistent. 2 was mess!!! and did a much worse job of talking about overcoming fear but also tried to talk about the importance of family support structures. Anyway, there is some just... INCREDIBLE acting, directing, and writing choices in 2. I'd also love a review of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, since the Child Catcher from that gave me nightmares for 10 years.

[@lizan2678]

THANK YOU for talking about how the "waking up from the dream ending" feels contradictory to the rest of the narrative. As someone who has loved the short story forever, that little bit at the end of this film has always been frustrating to me.

[@lizan2678]

I made a separate comment, but might as well add this here too: BY THE WAY, the ending of the film is not the ending Carter originally had in the screenplay. From Wikipedia: "Carter's first ending for the film would have featured Rosaleen diving into the floor of her bedroom and being swallowed up as by water. Jordan claimed that the limited technology of the time prevented the production of such a sequence, whereas later CGI effects would in fact make it quite simple." That would have fit SO WELL with the outcast she-wolf fleeing the world of men by descending into the well.

[@canedust]

Oh, this! I caught it on TV once as a kid, and it spent years as one of those "did I imagine it?" movies

[@dorianleakey]

I switched halfway through a movie where Jennifer Lopez was in a dream enjoying seeing a man have his intestines drawn out and wound round something, this looks of sadistic pleasure on her face, not context for why, coded as sexual, very much thought i imagined it.

[@patrickdtx3638]

I can totally see that happening. The whole movie is kind of a fever dream.

[@canedust]

@patrickdtx3638 absolutely. and asking my mother about it was no help. "Remember that bizarre movie you let us watch once? About the kid and the weird grandmother?" "... Flowers in the Attic?" "No. You putting *that* VHS on where we could see it is a whole other conversation..."

[@Lazamattaz]

Same!!

[@kellykocsis1941]

Same, I kind of remember catching like a scene from the movie when I was little but I feel like I was too young to understand what was happening.

[@RichDuckKing]

Terrence Stamp plays the Devil! I love it! I’ve gotta watch this now, disappointing ending notwithstanding. Anyhow, I’d love to see your take on Tales From the Darkside, and especially a review series focused on the Tales From the Crypt TV series. So many stars-before-they-were-stars and fun stories in that show.

[@TheGeordieTiger]

Stamp is a massively under-appreciated actor. Kneel before Zod!

[@Mobysimo]

Holy crap by sheer coincidence we just talked about The Company of Wolves in my university class about Fairy Tales!

[@magganonfatalis733]

Haven't even watched yet but my wife and I are super excited to hear your take. Company of Wolves is a bonkers film that is, in fact, ruined by the ending. Also, the VHS cover for this movie used to give me nightmares when I was a kid and saw it at the video store.

[@sabrinaloizides-merideth9874]

Not an 80s werewolf film but a 90s one..."Bad Moon." It's one of my favorites!

[@LordVolkov]

Adapted from the novel Thor. Rewatched recently and it still holds up really well. Michael Pare is pretty underrated.

[@mercuropheliac]

On the contrary, I see the ending as the reality of how “growing up” actually hits you and how terrifying it really is. Here, we see a girl who, like many of us when we were younger, over-idealizing maturity, agency, and all the other supposed “freedom“ of adulthood, and not having the foresight of all the complexities, responsibilities, and other scary and unpleasant realities that come with being an adult. So when the wolf attacks her at the very end, I see it as a fitting symbol of the bitter, and shocking, realization that “being a grown-up” isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be, and Rosalina(?) gets the whole, “BOOM! Welcome adult responsibility, kid!” jumpscare that we all inevitably face.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Love this!!

[@StarOpal]

What can I say, weird or not I love this movie, especially for Angela Lansbury. The first rewrite ending Carter suggested for the movie had Rosaleen diving into the floor and being swallowed up like it was water, but the technology wasn't there in 84. Micha Bergese, The Huntsman, was a dancer brought in to help Stephen Rea with his physicality and Jordan was so wowed by him (like with Sarah Patterson) he was cast. Aaaaand that's how you end up with a twelve year old and a forty year old.

[@DodgeThisBam]

I have a suggestion! Everybody has heard of Watership Down and it's Infamous 1978 adaption (personally gave me nightmares!) but very few are familiar with the OTHER Richard Adams animated adaption The Plague Dogs of 1982. This is an absolutely stunning movie and its uncensored version NEVER fails to make me cry. Many people have different interpretations of the ending of both the book and the film and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. More light needs to be shone on this underrated masterpiece.

[@Fickji]

If you consider the ending to also be a part of the dream it kinda makes sense. The strong she-wolf side of the girl runs home and eats the damsel in distress human side of her personality with her newly formed family. If you want another creepy age difference werewolf movie may I suggest Never Cry Werewolf. That one has Kevin Sorbo (as a good guy) and Vampire Diaries Nina Dobrev. It gives off Fright Night but with werewolves story vibes.

[@dr.snakes]

Kevin Sorbo as a good guy? Must have been incredibly hard for him.

[@aaronkelly1762]

I enjoyed Never Cry Werewolf when I was younger. Hadn’t seen Fright Night at that point, so I wasn’t aware of the similarities until later.

[@stealthgun5]

This is almost on the same level as "Howling II: Your Sister Is a Werewolf"

[@JurassicReptile]

this is not a so bad its good movie though.

[@Zeitgeist6]

The Company Of Wolves is amazing.

[@patrickdtx3638]

Howling 2 is a guilty pleasure of mine; I've watched it more times than any human being should have. The last couple of times I watched it I wasn't sober, and that helped quite a bit. ;-)

[@Ceares]

My mother loves the music in that movie so much I had to erm..."find" it for her.

[@FloatingWhales]

Dope soundtrack on Howling II though

[@philipdarrenellwell1994]

Legend also has the same unreality feel of this movie, where nothing makes total sense if you stop and think about it but watching it as just a dream captured on film works perfectly.

[@j.munday7913]

And it had Tim Curry as the bad guy, in a role that made me wonder what sort of things I was into because... whew.

[@pookiesis1465]

@@j.munday7913i loved both of these movies.And Labyrinth too. It was my childhood of fantasy as a black girl in the 90s

[@junibug6790]

"Dreamers...are my SPECIALITY."

[@johnthecloud]

They both had woodland scenes captured on a huge film set rather than in a real wood. That's what gives it that unreal feeling.

[@pookiesis1465]

@@johnthecloud yeah, its the dreamlike state that i appreciate

[@DanielCrookeFilms]

I love this movie…I still have the VHS somewhere.

[@martinvegas1327]

Same here👍

[@Mein-Darth]

I had a movie like that small world.

[@leia3772]

I remember finding this movie late at night on tv. I fell in love! I don’t know what it is about finding movies you’re too old to watch on HBO as a kid, but all the flaws disappear. I watched it over and over again, and I was already a Murder, She Wrote fan too. I then read the book years later and didn’t even make the connection. 😅 The Bluebeard story was my favorite. PLEASE cover 80’s werewolf movies! I was such a wimp as a kid but I loved werewolf movies. Wolf, The Howling, Waxwork, Silver Bullet (have to love an alcoholic Gary Busey). Also Waxwork has David Warner and John Rhys-Davies, so you can’t say no to that. 😂

[@emisformaker]

People mentioning that the same director also did Interview With The Vampire, which also featured an underage girl smooching a full-grown man. At least in Interview, Claudia was aged up from the book, where she was described as being 6 or 7 years old. Anyway, while I love the idea of covering werewolf movies as a series, I also think you should do an episode overview of Jim Henson's The Storyteller. There were two seasons, one of European fairy tales and one of Greek myths, and I think a lot of people have vague 'did I dream that' memories of either/both.

[@caucasoidape8838]

That was the most accurate I have seen a show depict Greek mythology.

[@Geospasmic]

I wonder what Granny's life was like. She must have been through some shit to have such a view on life.

[@caucasoidape8838]

I'm glad to have not had to live in those times.

[@tylerraven1632]

Good rundown and video. I love Angela as well. She was great! In the final scene when she wakes up and the wolf comes crashing through her window, are we going to ignore the fact the sailor doll and one that also seemed to attack her by coming to life looks like the totally haunted doll 'Robert'??? Creepy to say the least. The clown doll looks familiar too.

[@therealmanos]

I'm a little surprised you hadn't seen it until recently! Glad you did, this was excellent! Love to see more werewolf stuff! Are you thinking about doing Manchurian Candidate?

[@georgemetcalf8763]

Angela Lansbury was great in that. Fantastic film.

[@LordVolkov]

In The Company of Wolves is nuts. Funny to me that Neil Jordan also directs Interview With The Vampire.

[@JPH1138]

Sometimes it feels like David Warner is in EVERY weird film from the 80s and 90s...

[@RRyleM]

I’ve been a big fan of this movie for a long time and was pleasantly surprised to find you talking about it. Also if you ever plan to talk about a pre Murder She Wrote Lansbury performance, Last Unicorn would he great

[@JohannesVanDerStuyvebode]

Roses, your voice is very soothing and I can just listen to you for hours 😊❤

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Ive seen a different screenshot from this movie but its just some dogs in some fancy clothes, that screenshot is top tier cause those dogs look like they were having a fun time. Its shown around 7:35

[@nanardeurlambda]

for a view into Lansburry's career, I would suggest "Gaslight", as it's her first role, and I think the movie is pretty good, but she is a relatively minor player in it. and maybe not quite as commentary friendly?

[@Belgand]

I'm pretty sure Angela was never in Gaslight. You must be misremembering it like usual. ;)

[@nanardeurlambda]

@@Belgand ... >:-(

[@AuntBA]

This was such a fun watch, you inspired to me to read the original work! Just wanted to also say that you are my favorite KZbinr, I look forward to your content more than any creator on this platform 🤗🖤🌹

[@fungiplays2289]

I'm so happy I made a worthwhile suggestion :) Loved your takes on this one! Thank you so very much for revisiting a thing that traumatized a very young me.

[@Lazamattaz]

The tidbit about the real wolf being scared of the duck because it quacked 😭😭😭 omg what a puppy ♥️

[@baileybrian9560]

oh i remember reading about that second story in a book called Transformations, it was part of the Mysteries of the Unknown Series by Time-Life Books. It was a bunch of stories from around the world about people transforming into animals, and it had a story about this cult that used to exist that would ride around on horses and give people this drug to rub on their skin to turn them into "werewolves", though it would just make people go insane and attack other people and eat them.

[@brianjauch9958]

Proto bath salts.

[@bubbz2978]

I've missed you soo much Rose! This was an absolute treat!!

[@eisenwulfe]

that doll in the sailor suit is probably based on Robert the doll, a supposedly posessed doll in a museum in florida.

[@theasexualvampire13]

Right? I was gonna say.

[@troin3925]

Exactly! Looks like someone already noticed that.

[@lilredisbigbadwolf]

Thank you so much❤ I have been hoping and waiting for someone, mostly YOU,to cover this. I saw this when I was way too young, and was obsessed ever since. 💫🖤

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

The thumbnail: When you bite into a raisin cookie thinking it was chocolate chips.

[@dylanehooverlibrarian7026]

I remember feading the short story in an snthology, lovingAngela Carter's prose, and being excited that there was a movie about it. My parents forbade me watching it as a kid, so I was left stewing over what it was like, until I managed to pirate it a decade later. It remains a favorite despite the uncomfortable themes, simply for having a tone i like anything I had seen for years. Cannon productions did it like no other, and Neal Jordean was skilled

[@Martynde]

Could you please review Bedknobs And Broomsticks.

[@stalkermike]

I needed a dose of roses today so I'm watching a lot of your videos from the last year. 👀

[@martinboyle9163]

I can't remember if I saw it at the midnight movie when the Rocky Horror crowd was thin, late at night on cable when I was trying to pass out or if I saw it on VHS at a friend's house at a party. All I know is that I remember seeing it and looking back on it thinking it was just a fever dream. What a weird movie it was! Then again, so was being a teenager in the 1980s. Best to you- ❤🌹

[@fredhinojosa86]

I remember how iconic the VHS cover was. Walking the horror section at Blockbuster was always a must. I always just saw the ending as a fake out. She was still dreaming. It also reeks of studio mandate. It's gotta have that last shocking moment, ala Carrie, FT13th, etc.

[@MugenSniperGeek]

Always a good time when you upload, thank you for what you do Roses. I also blame you for my current addiction to the sass of JB Fletcher.

[@nilus2k]

This was a classic video store rental in the 80s. The box art just screamed “rent me”.

[@psukebariah3435]

I saw this movie on video and instantly loved it. It is *so* odd. I agree with the person who thinks that the wolf crashing through the window is still part of the dream...and the fear of growing up and all that entails.

[@CL-hq4cf]

When you mentioned having a dream about Eminem, then dropping the "gravity" line a minute later, that was just... *chef's kiss*

[@Desmodontidae78]

Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way, Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end. As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise. Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, and charming - never mind! Now, as then, ‘tis simple truth - Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth Man, I really loved this movie growing up. It's good stuff. Macabre fantasy has always been a favorite genre of mine.

[@paisleybabee]

It is truly the creepiest part of the film

[@velociraptor4you3291]

The thumbnail creeped me out...to the point where I just _had_ to check this out (😄)! I'm now interested to check this flick out for myself now; the werewolf is one of my personal favorite monsters after all. I have a couple of suggestions for future videos: ever hear of _"Carnosaur"_ or _"Cool World?"_

[@sabeaniebaby]

I rented the VHS back in 1987. I loved it at the time.

[@cocobutter3175]

This has always been one of my favorite movies. The old fairytale atmosphere it has, is something I'm constantly searching through old 80's movies to find. Legend had a similar feel. And Labyrinth. But this one is particularly special for some reason. Maybe because it's lesser known. Maybe it's all the symbolism.

[@colinwhitfield8627]

Niel Jordan directing Stephen Rea...long before The Crying Game. Fascinating. Also HEY ROSES!

[@AnlúanHolyPriest]

I’d love to see you review the Celtic Riddle film in Murder, She Wrote. I remember when I was younger I had to record the film in 4 parts. I recently got the box set and showed it to my Irish BF, who was impressed that they didn’t Americanise the Irish Gardaí cars.

[@blazingskull65]

No mention of Danielle Dax as she wolf ? I’m Howling mad 😡

[@EmilyRitcheson]

When you finally acknowledged the horrific special effects, I literally breathed a sigh of relief. Like I needed confirmation we were actually seeing the same footage. 😂

[@galaxyblade111]

Wait... this movie isn't about puppers doing business at all...

[@jaybee2337]

Lupines LLC

[@joanmayer304]

Lovely to see Angela Lansbury again. She is missed. ❤️ from 🇨🇦

[@SparkleLuna77]

Would love the werewolf film analysis 😊. Great vid as always.

[@jp-wc4ce]

Not your usual type of show but I think you might enjoy Lois and Clark: the New Adventures of Superman. It's just so wacky and campy with charmingly outdated special effects, as well as a lot of genuinely heartwarming moments. Also season 4 is so bad it's hilarious. Loved the video, looking forward to the next one!

[@theabominablekenny]

I'd like to see your thoughts on Eerie Indiana

[@Polycomical]

Great video. Speaking of suggestions for bonkers films would love your take on last year's Smoking Causes Coughing

[@ewyeth7713]

i remember trying to watch this in highschool and although the visuals were really fun i couldnt finish it because the actress's age made me so uncomfortable whenever the hunstman guy was on screen

[@cpkgrownup9496]

I can’t get over the wolf peacing out after the duck quacked. That is too cute. 😅

[@vincentzombi3916]

Hell yea! I actually really like “the company of wolves” it’s got a great cast in it too

[@spikeoramathon]

My high school English teacher somehow was able to get us a copy of this and show it to us (mostly as an illustration of how we could adapt folktales to our own narratives), not a year or two after its release. I always remembered the bit about the eyebrows but somehow forgot it was Angela Lansbury in that getup.

[@rogueflynn]

Not sure if you’ve done it but it would be cool to see you talk about The Sweeney Todd play with Angela Lansbury.

[@erikareis4398]

Angela! I’m finally getting to read some of Carter’s work so this was such a timely video to watch! I love the idea of having you go over other werewolf movies! 🐺

[@KingEgyptian]

This is one of my top 5 favorite werewolf films. I love the Gothic dream like atmosphere and dark fairy tale tone. As for the ending I actually love it. It's your typical horror movie scare ending and I've always interpreted it as the main girl waking up to the reality that womanhood/nature is inevitable and sometimes terrifying, regardless if you accept it. If you enjoy this film, I highly recommend “Ginger Snaps.” Same synopsis, a coming of age story where the main girl becoming a werewolf is a metaphor for puberty.

[@unitedstatesofbecky]

Those happy doggos at the wedding! Also, I always enjoy your commentary. Have you considered doing Bedknobs & Broomsticks?

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

Sarah Patterson, who played Rosaleen, has consistently lied about her age over the years, so it's not really known how old she was when this movie was made. She certainly wasn't 18, so it doesn't necessarily matter for the purposes of your point, but she's often tried to make herself out to be a few years younger than she actually is. I believe she was 14 when the film was made, but that is speculation, and a 40 year old still has no business kissing her.

[@OrlockBJ]

Right. She looks way older than 12 here, and if the date of birth is to be believed, she was 13 or 14 when this was filming. I figure she was actually born in the 60s but thought that made her seem too old, so she lied and rounded up to 1970.

[@bighormsheep]

i appreciate the effort you put into your videos! particularly the research behind the media, and in this one giving us comparisons to the original text and info about the author and the bts stuff like the wolf being scared by the duck. 10 years ago, as a teen on tumblr, i remember seeing some gifs from this movie of the body horror transformations and i was so captivated by them, i still remember them so vividly, so i was very surprised to see it was THIS movie and to see some of those very same visuals again after a decade was awesome. i think angela killed it in this role, and i agree the aesthetic was on point. your video has made me both want to watch this movie and read the author's book. though the 40 yr old/12 year old thing made me scream and im not looking forward to that /pained laugh

[@WalterBarnes]

Arrived for the Angela, Stayed for the Good Doggos. Thanks, Roses!

[@jayme3181]

I don't know when doggies changed to doggos but I don't like it. I don't think the dogs like it either. 🐕

[@WalterBarnes]

How about doggles?

[@jayme3181]

@@WalterBarnes Good gravy.

[@cockyroaches]

obsessed with the slowmo shot of the wolf at the end making it abundantly clear it's just the most nonthreatening dog in the world. he genuinely looks ready for a treat in every frame, i love it

[@carn9507]

Sure, this is creepy with a minor being lured by a much older man, yet Labyrinth is regarded as a 'family classic' when it has a much older man (with bulge) abduct a baby to lure it's underage sister so the man can seduce her. Apparently Bowie refused to do a kiss scene. But given what he supposedly got up to earlier in his career it doesn't seem like something he hadn't done before. All the fan-art and fan-fiction of those characters... ugh. Love the jim henson puppetry though. Anyways this movie, despite the gross kiss bit, ain't bad. The werewolf effects ain't exactly American Werewolf or first Howling but is fine.

[@avosmash2121]

...For half a second mistook this for Pan's Labyrinth. And I was like scuze me you interpreted that HOW-? A FAMILY CLASSIC??.....oh, Bowie. They mean that one. Very amusing 😂. To me anyway.

[@denisenewton5107]

The Red Riding hood movie with Amanda Seyfried looks a lot like this movie. Felt a lot like it too

[@lazyhomebody1356]

I hadn't made that connection. Thanks!

[@biorph8597]

At some point you really need to cover The Peanut Butter Solution

[@AllofTimeandSpace]

That movie is a fever dream!

[@biorph8597]

@@AllofTimeandSpace EEEE! Someone else who has heard of it! YES IT IS A FEVER DREAM! I would love to see Roses cover it!

[@AllofTimeandSpace]

@@biorph8597 I know it’s rare to come across others who have seen that bizarre movie! have you ever seen the documentary made about the making of the peanut butter solution?

[@ggsilik]

Honestly, from the thumbnail, I thought it was The Peanut Butter Solution.

[@AllofTimeandSpace]

@@biorph8597it’s such a weird but memorable movie! There’s definitely enough creepy in it for Roses to review! Have you ever seen the behind the scenes documentary of Peanut Butter Solution?

[@TheDragonsong12]

That ending reads as some exec going "It's a horror movie! We gotta end with a death!" and everyone just sighing and rolling their eyes as they go to do it.

[@intersexcryptid]

Oh, man. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do more weird 80s werewolf movies like the Jack Nicholson one. Also Silver Bullet if you haven't done that one yet.

[@fri5kas]

I am hearing Bingo from Bluey saying, "It was the 80ies".... 😂

[@madquest8]

You straight up kill me... every time I watch one of your vids. "Dressed like Kate Bush!" laughing for days. LOL

[@RLucas3000]

Right before murder she wrote, Angela is recording the unrecorded (for a decade) score to Prettybelle the musical (vid of her session on KZbin). The restorer of lost scores who hired her got her for only $10,000. Mostly because her career was in a tiny slump before Murder She Wrote.

[@milkiesttea]

Thanks for covering this. I kept trying to watch this, but every time I would fall asleep like, halfway through. Lol

[@needhamcomics6370]

This movie traumatized me as a kid. Stills creeps me out now. And I'm 41.

[@r0siepurple853]

So excited to see you covering this film! My mum loves it and we bonded over watching it together ⭐️

[@renatocorvaro6924]

What a wild time. Always good to see Angela Lansbury doing something weird.