This BRONZE says they're in ELO HELL, so we put them in a GOLD lobby to prove it (Overwatch 2)

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[@lightconstruct]

I wanna see "I'm plat, but I deserve silver" videos.

[@phoneguy8428]

That's me lol

[@Cloud-rb1bp]

Exactly 😅

[@Dillama002]

Something similar is the “I don’t deserve GM but I can hang with them” vid

[@monkegaming2105]

Every mercy player

[@gabrizad0]

@@Dillama002 i do this and im main mercy diamond :C im bad now

[@joseh9254]

it's so agonizing the fact that he doesn't know how zarya's bubble works, he just keeps using all his abilities on her even when she's bubbled

[@cunnyman]

I mean, to be fair, sometimes if you are confident it is enough to pop her bubble and kill her… by all means, do it.

[@silent031]

I’m gonna be honest around 2017 for a whole year I didn’t know Zaryas gimmick, I had assumed it was like sym

[@randomahnameisthename3147]

Your entire team should focus Zarya when she has bubble. That way she can’t protect herself and it’s been popped. Her damage output won’t matter if she’s dead

[@randomahnameisthename3147]

@@kidpresident_1475 ah my fault

[@ZNemerald]

@@randomahnameisthename3147 That only works in very old Overwatch 1.

[@SleepyFl0wer]

His bronze isn’t just showing it’s SHINING 😂😂😂

[@mgtowmonkapprenticegang8426]

LMAO

[@theforsaken1466]

Ouch

[@choclate1689]

LOL

[@hejalll]

As an OW1 top 500 I honestly think his Echo plays weren't that bad. However his wraith forms on Reaper were used to engage instead of disengage, not good. His shadow steps were used to disengage instead of flank, not good. His sombra was a complete mess, his bastion lacked aim. But, his echo was definitely gold worthy.

[@liv_ow5918]

@@hejalll ow1 top 500 aka 3k6sr loool, really even his echo is silver at the best but like he just plays like bronze

[@generalvic8250]

As an actual Gold player it hurt to see he say he "strongly" feels he deserves plat and watching him just go 1v5 and waste ult or stuff like that

[@AgentDigits]

Yeah... He was bad.

[@rasmachris94]

I'm not gold, hell I'm not even ranked. But why was my man wasting ult econ by changing heroes every 2 seconds. Jesus. Dodging off a hero with 80% ult charge as junk is just losing potential free picks.

[@BananeKiwi199]

That happens in gold as well (Sup gold 1) it’s painful. Or a tank like Dva running of point to chase a flanker, an Orisa not noticing how all her team is dying in the back line (she also was way off point on defense…alone) and spamming they need health and then rage quitting, players constantly shooting on bubbled Zarya ugh the list is long, I also thought u wouldnt see stuff like that in gold anymore. Also most of them are still very potg/ kill thirsty lol

[@generalvic8250]

@@BananeKiwi199 tbh it happens all the way up even beyond diamond, but at least in gold/plat teams start to get organized in comparison to silver or bronze where the whole team is playing quake or halo

[@ssebasgoo]

​@@BananeKiwi199 Or rein just constantly go in alone and blame you for not healing him...

[@hayatojin2886]

i never knew the difference between bronze and gold was so big.

[@alinaqvi176]

i don’t think you understand how much pain i went through to grind from bronze 5 to gold 1

[@hayatojin2886]

@@alinaqvi176 gratz for climbing :)

[@scalpingsnake]

From what I have gathered from coaches... we have no idea how bad it really gets :S

[@niki7032]

@@alinaqvi176 same and then new season came out and I was late to playing it and it de ranked me down from gold 5 to silver to bronze 5, im in hell grinding out of it as a support

[@mandymacify]

Its not. Unless you have played in all 3 elos, you wouldn't know. Its a shit show. Bronze players who should be gold or higher and gold payers who should be bottom bronze. Plus mix in all the "new" accounts/smurfs messing everything up, now all the new players as well that are all in silver or gold. I had a player the other day not even know what reins ult was, and had 3k damage compared to the other dmg's 11kish.

[@lividfly6262]

didn’t even mention that he was feeding zarya the whole game

[@ksd6385]

Would love to see 10 bronze who all thinks they deserve a higher rank Go for a 5v5 After game interview would be spicy

[@StilllFly]

That would be x10 more interesting!

[@Belph-ny7qr]

Yes!

[@Doythedino]

That's just called a bronze game, which to be fair is pretty funny.

[@ISmellPurple]

tell all of them that theyre in a lobby with plats and watch their egos explode

[@flogchamp9530]

it would either be salt or a circlejerk plus if they all think elo hell then similar scores prove nothing

[@DinosaurHDMI]

I love the fact the coach gave him advice and he didn’t listen. It all went over his head.

[@KarlKognitiv]

The advice was too vague. "Do things with intention." What things? What intentions? When? This bronze 5 dude could not have figured those answers out by himself on the spot.

[@jk2l]

@@KarlKognitiv i think what he mean is that don't shoot just because you can shoot, don't use ability because they are available. i have seen him wasted his ability unnecessary (like those painful reaper shadow step) and he used them for no reason

[@slipstream5762]

@@jk2l I'd agree, but it doesn't seem that was said in the video. If they were more specific with their tips it'd probably have helped.

[@KarlKognitiv]

@@spookypizza4371 Please, list as many as you like of the points made which were allegedly good specific advice.

[@KarlKognitiv]

@@spookypizza4371 Those are not specific points. Each one of those are still too vague for a bronze player! "Hold high ground" where? "Don't push in front of your team" where exactly should he go then as DPS? "Have an exit strategy" what does that even mean to s bronze player who has no clue how to even consider building a strategy, let alone an EXIT strategy. Etc etc. Too vague for a BRONZE player.

[@lispyy26]

This guy is the definition of a bronze player and it hurts my head

[@jasoncheng7174]

lmao i agree

[@offiziell_ale]

Hm It will give bader player

[@dazey856]

These be the type of people claiming they are just stuck in elo hell and just say they always have bad teammates lol

[@username8878]

I think if he had a few rounds in gold he would probably be able to stay there

[@realtalk13]

@@username8878 not long term. sure he'll sometimes get teammates that can carry him and cover his misplays, but he just doesn't have the mechanical skill to keep up

[@grantnewlan3767]

this guy made me feel so much better about myself

[@navviil3ra]

right

[@nashi-nz]

lol I'll never cry about being Gold 2 again

[@yozao5736]

This dude's sensitivity is so high he could use a post-it note for a mouse pad.

[@debhcamo]

What's the pros of playing with low sens? I'm genuinely asking cause I'm forced to play with high sensitivity due to poor space on my desk but i wanna know the benefits

[@Gresavvi]

@@debhcamo i was in the same boat for a long time, but investing in a bigger mouse pad or a desk/re-arranging your desk to the best of your ability helps so much. u can get used to a high sens and u can perform well on it, dont get me wrong, i did for a long time, but having lowered it, im never going back. u get so much more control over flicking, tracking, vertical and horizontal aim. with a faster sens, the only benefit is being able to 180 faster. which also, in my opinion, is the only thing that might be keeping u from lowering your sens, cos for me that was the case. i was playing valorant and i needed to be able to 180 relatively fast and my mousepad was just way too small. but u know what, try lowering your sens a bit and get used to sweeping it twice in order to do a 180. its worth it just for the cause of more control of flicking and tracking etc. at the end of the day, its all up to preferance, theres people out there with huge mousepads and a lot of desk space who still use high sens. in a game like overwatch tho, its harder to get right, cause theres just so much more aiming going on that in a game like cs or valorant, where targets dont move nearly as much. heres where tracking goes into play and makes it harder with a slower sens if your mouse space is small. try lowering your sens ever so slightly. u should be able to find a sweet spot that gives u more control while preserving the speed. for me in valorant for example, rn i play on 0.116 1600 dpi, but i used to play on 0.300 ish before i got a new mousepad. on ow, i believe im on like 6% sens? so itd just be 12 i suppose since its almost double. but yeah. could never go back to a high sens

[@yozao5736]

@@debhcamoWell I'm glad you asked. The short of it is precision. There's a whole science to finding your ideal sens based a bunch of factors like resolution and refresh rate of your monitor, dpi, cursor speed in windows ( which is in easy fix just set it to 6 and disable mouse acceleration ), and as u mentioned physical space to move your mouse. There's more but that's like the core of it. But yeah, faster refreshing rate on monitors with a high FPS gives you the most up to date information on your screen, while your ideal sensitivity for the space you have gives you the most precision to aim. generally you would want the lowest sens comfortable to you given the space you have and your physical dexterity moving a mouse. You can even consider the weight of the mouse. But I'm old and washed these days as an amateur CS 1.6 player, I'm not good nor do I have the time to be good anymore. If you wanna actually deep dive into aim mechanics and hardware check out Rocket Jump Ninja. The dude is a scientist on aim, mouse hardware, and mechanics, down to measuring your physical space to find an ideal sensitivity. Sorry for the essay, lol.

[@paoloalto]

@@debhcamo think of it this way, if youre high sens then youre aiming at things by the scale of millimeters. Thats a pretty smalle margin of error, whereas if you play low sens with a large pad then your margin of error goes from mm's to inches. Wayyy easier to be consistent

[@kublaila1567]

@@yozao5736 what about finding sensitivity for console? When I watched videos a ton of people play on 100 sens I think?

[@CramcrumBrewbringer]

To be fair, my brother who is a top 500 support player solo queued to his rank. He said it's a huge grind because all it takes is one person on your team to throw, and while statistically you'll win more than you lose, losing multiple in a row when you're outperforming everyone else is extremely frustrating.

[@quinn2002]

I’ve was ranked plat and was hardstuck plat. made new account and placed diamond and worked to masters in a week. elo hell exist in my eyes at least for supports like me where it’s hard to carry games. creating a new account was the best thing i ever did for my enjoyment of the game. (update: hit gm)

[@CramcrumBrewbringer]

@@quinn2002 I absolutely believe it.

[@AverageHandle_]

@@quinn2002yeah I lost a game where I had 16K healing, shits rough man

[@jakedeane3003]

Yeah that's the number 1 problem with climbing. I'm plat 5 right now and honestly I'm better than that, it just gives me throwers or bad teammates a lot of times and there's nothing I can do about it

[@ianchambers37]

​​@@quinn2002 It's near impossible some games it feels like on support no matter how much healing etc you do. Some folks, i swear they get healed a bit and they think okay back to the open we go at half health. No, you are only living since im spamming every heal option i have while you hide in cover since anytime they attempted to "tank" they would get melted down. Other times, you get the sombra who hacks health packs and does nothing else as another example so down one when defending. My fav is the dps and tank whom you save, and then when get pushed again, they abandon you and run behind you lol and die then you die since no way to do anything. Sometimes, you die thankfully first and get out of that nonsense.

[@Scully1800]

You guys made gold sound good. Makin me feel special

[@RebornJoker]

As a gold player, I agree

[@THE1TRAVELER]

I too agree , that gives me the feely funnies

[@Htiy]

Same Update: made it to diamond

[@moreece5863]

@@RebornJoker bronze-plat is a one man carry elo in my opinion. U need to play with ur team at dia 5-top 500

[@Angela-lo5bw]

I'm currently gold 1. After working my way up from 500 SR in Overwatch 1. Trust me. The world is different in bronze.

[@walbertosantiagocartagena3401]

The most frustrating thing about ow2 ranked is the lack of coms or useful coms, and that's a placement killer for those hard carrying their teams. I do have to say that this guy is a pure Bronze 5 player. He doesn't realize that his decisions are literal mistakes and costs the team big-time.

[@hostetjd]

So many low ELO players use their movement abilities to engage rather than disengage and it hurts my brain every time. Unless you're 90% sure you can secure a pick with your team close behind then you're just feeding.

[@johndrippergaming]

Monkey reinhart dva enters chat 💪😂

[@shaneanderson3719]

To be fair Winston and DVA use movement abilities to engage but he was on dps not tank so i get what ur saying

[@hexgleam]

They don't know when to be confident and when to be afraid. They had a mercy pocket as echo sometimes + refused to engage, and other times they had 0 resources and turbo inted using every cooldown to get close and 1v5. I think that if they learn to get close *before* using movement abilities and get a better sense of when to commit to a fight, they'll absolutely rank up. Their aim isn't that bad.

[@sofiarodriguez6768]

@@shaneanderson3719 tanks like monkey and dva shouldn't use their cooldowns to engage. Only to set up. You fly to high-ground but not engage that kind of thing. If you use your mobility to engage would get punished anywhere above gold/plat.

[@noodlesthe1st]

Yes this is so true. In silver I can jump on their backline get a kill on their support, damage them some more then hop out. In gold I can jump in and shield dance until my jump comes back up but in plat if I jump in I survive less than 3 seconds. A bit part of that is that they don't just ignore what's behind them lol.

[@TheShapingSickness]

This guy did all the broze plays, but the one that takes the cake is using the elevator as genji instead of wall climbing

[@Sandmansa]

From what I am seeing right now, his bronze rank is right on target. It kind of looked like he was spamming all of his abilities with no cool down management whatsoever. But hey, his echo was working with that style of play.

[@stillnotchill2560]

His echo wasn't working either, it was just better than his other heros. Nothing he did was working at any point. He's gotta practice more.

[@poppasmurf688]

Yeah and he looked like he was trying way too hard to look good. Flicking every shot with Mcree even though he cannot aim. Doing that little melee thing every time you aren’t in battle. Very bronze player

[@konfu_ion]

@@poppasmurf688I melee all the time, guess I’m bronze

[@dB_Cooper_Music]

Needs to lower his sense in general. When he was using his sticky's his tracking was really way over corrected. He'd spread them everywhere

[@ChiefxASTx]

his echo was only working cause gold players cant aim. i will say i think he plays echo exponentially better than his reaper

[@HjbProductions]

He is the type of DPS I get on my team when I play support and then die on the inside.

[@wolflithay6380]

Crap dps player: “HEAL ME!!!” Giga chad support: “I cant heal your aim” 💀

[@cooltwittertag]

bro you're saying the exact same shit he's saying, you need to stop blaming teammates

[@501Labsmusic]

Look inward.

[@The_Pimba]

With some more experience and grinding, i can definitely see him getting gold next season, but please, never let this man pick Sombra ever again 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@BlueDrew10]

Or Reaper

[@emrifrett8145]

@@BlueDrew10 or junkrat

[@jeremypcleung]

@@emrifrett8145 it was painful watching him spam concussion mines like regular bombs on cooldown and never hitting anyone with it

[@holaiamdevil]

thats really generous idk abt gold next season 😭

[@RebornJoker]

Not gold. I'd say maybe silver 3 or 2

[@BlankIdea02]

As someone who's a support main and has been stuck in elo hell in s1 and two (was gold 2-plat4 and now Im dia 2 and climbing, these are some of the best gold players I've seen Edit: I am GM4 as of season 4

[@jfudge9732]

It's probably because they're all in comms. Even in Diamond I Never have an entire lobby giving comms like this.

[@BlankIdea02]

@@jfudge9732 I'm in masters 3 now and I still feel like they're way better than golds. They have both aim and game sense, as well as general game knowledge

[@JarrettMvM]

@@BlankIdea02 they certainly had more of an incentive to try on a game being broadcasted than they do in a gold ranked match, that's the big difference I think.

[@cooltwittertag]

You're not in elo hell, you're hardstuck

[@cooltwittertag]

Elo hell isn't a thing, you'll climb if you're better

[@lukecremeen8308]

I have never seen gold players actually hold high ground on this map they always just chill right in front of the gate

[@ieatcarsyum8248]

The difference is that they were actually communicating in voice chat

[@cosmicseaa1119]

Comms are the difference

[@madshader]

@@KurimuzonKane what's even weirder is, that in OW1, even in high silver and gold, there was always someone on comms talking. Sometimes only 1 or 2 ppl, but it was enough to make the difference. Now in OW2, no one talks in comms. I think it's cause of all the new players that feel shy about talking.

[@lukasg4807]

@@madshader yeah, everyone was always in vc in ow1, now I'm happy if 2 people are in chat

[@quinn2002]

even diamond holds the gate bc when u don’t have comms it’s easier to stay together

[@VaresSparda]

I really appreciate the politeness of you people, not attacking them personally. This was great to watch!

[@everadept]

I had a friend like this in Apex. They would always rush forward and get insta downed and would never figure out why. They would post high kill/dmg matches but then playing together they would just get bodied by better players who would punish their "tactics"

[@bulbijunk3004]

Octane ?

[@ivansoto9723]

@@bulbijunk3004 ugh I have a friend who will only play Octane, get no kills all game and just run away and ditch us or constantly run far ahead. Really kills the game for me.

[@Platinumrings]

There's two types of rushing alone. Just an example, you guys just wiped a squad and you're looting, healing up and your friend is already gone and fighting. Second type, you guys are together 1 squad vs 1 squad then your friend decides to push and you stay back. If your friend is rushing in when its clear you are not ready, it's on him. If he pushes and you don't support his call, then it's on you.

[@juliusp8269]

Alot people always seem to forget in lower ranks that game sense, knowledge and communication can sometimes be more beneficial than any mechanical skills you have

[@santy6625]

I learned that you’ll go up as u deserve it. I was hard stuck on bronze and I blamed it on the game. I kept losing and losing and was like “ I have the best stats tho it’s my tm8s” but as I learned the game, it’s not All about the stats. It’s about playing efficiently and doing your role correctly. As I started playing with my team more, learned how to position myself and learned the counters to the characters I started winning until I finally made it to plat 1. Today I just made it to diamond 5. It’s not the game or Elo hell it’s just u tbh

[@Nickelback8469]

I get that for some people the climb is rocky and miserable; there honestly are those gamest that are basically impossible to win. But if you're a good, consistent player that deserves higher rank, eventually you'll get there.

[@Chacho131]

​@@meat. It was just as true.

[@aven2rine.]

@@Chacho131 Its more true in ow1 than in ow2, ow2 matchmaking is fucked

[@enriquetamendozaojeda7028]

@@aven2rine. True. Like 80% of the matches are just one sided. Even if we won or lose, it's never really a hard match. It's just too easy, or imposible. Then there's the fun ones. But yeah, OW2 matchmaking is like "7 consecutives easy wins and then like 6 loses."

[@kalismols606]

OK....in fairness I feel like we need open que again But you have to at minimum have 1 heal and tank it insta locks out all dps Bcs there have just been to many games where I've had dps with 4 or 5 kills the entire 17 minutes

[@Red-ct6lk]

He attacked his own orisa at 1:14

[@user-wx5zf7tz3k]

Lollll

[@anotherp0thead105]

💀

[@ultraenigma235]

Shush they don’t know

[@lorenzodiaz4024]

Nah bro he was clearly shooting at the choke point

[@InceyWincey]

I had a guy like this on my team the other day, used all his cool-downs, dove into the middle of the enemy team, died, blamed me for not doing enough healing. At one point he ran into the enemy team without using all his cool-downs, failed to kill a Mercy who had been on 3hp (I’m not joking I watched the replay and checked), nearly died (11hp), wraith walked out. What’s the problem with that, you ask. Well, he got to cover in wraith walk, spotted a bastion in assault configuration, and came back out of cover to fight the bastion head on. The results were predictable. My Suzu landed on his dead body about .5 seconds later.

[@InceyWincey]

@@MGH7X I didn’t save it sorry.

[@zacharywestbrook8441]

Real

[@leviuzumaki3903]

I had a guy the opposite of this in my game the other day, played dva and had no idea how abilities worked and didn’t use them at all…

[@unimagin2ble]

didn't happen unfortunately

[@yeln_]

@@leviuzumaki3903 that was me in 2017 when I started playing overwatch and didn't find out about her defense matrix until about 2 months later

[@sonsoffishes1]

He's a solid silver player at best. But made a lot of bronze 5 moves like the Reaper wraith into the room.

[@ayylxcid6959]

Not even silver. His game sense and positioning was awful. Watching him play reaper made me laugh

[@mythic1868]

@@ayylxcid6959 yea but that's silver. He definitely should be higher then bronze, just not yet gold

[@RiptideST]

@@mythic1868 no he deserves bronze

[@scribs8017]

I actually think these are actually really helpful as a viewer too, like I’m plat but I got to notice a ton of tips and things that I might wanna work on too, great vid

[@scribs8017]

@KurimuzonKane literally no, people rarely talk but when they do we always do better

[@SnakeSkinz]

Bro he really went for the classic "I did bad because of ping" excuse holy shit 🤣

[@bballer3712]

Dude sat on his Hanzo ult so long he could’ve had like 3 of them lol

[@scalpingsnake]

Tbf when you have comms like that, you kinda feel like you have to save it if you are going in with a plan of what ults to use. In solo queue though yeah, I say just spam your ult as soon as you have a good opportunity to.

[@Htiy]

@@scalpingsnake his ult charges so fast id say just let it rip

[@HealthyWC-2]

@@scalpingsnake idk DPS also need to just do it sometimes, DPS are playmakers, if they see a moment to get 1-3 people they should just do it when the team is stacked together.

[@Vinzaf]

I imagine the reason they always die first is because they're trying to prove something and being needlessly risky.

[@buttermyeggrolllington6173]

Most bronze player ever

[@buckarooben7635]

Monke

[@tristanbabineau1532]

Hunnnndoooo p

[@moonmoonow4514]

I mean, compared to old bronze players, he’s pretty good. Watch like iddqd’s old bronze to gm vod and you’ll see what I mean.

[@noakinn]

@@moonmoonow4514 yeah obviously. no shit the playerbase as a whole gets better as the game gets older.

[@xeno4743]

the thing with these vids is that the coordination is on a whole different level because everyone is in a call which is rarely to never the case in normal ranked

[@superjj7214]

This guy deserves bronze 100% lol

[@lavapups232]

This guy is that type of teammates I get in ranked

[@TheKampfmaschine]

If you're actually gold (or "plat on a good day"), you could absolutely dominate an entire bronze enemy team and get out of bronze in an hour

[@holaiamdevil]

i like how this guy thinks having a good day means you can be an entire rank higher than what you “deserve” (not that he deserves gold, lol)

[@actualteddybear891]

Is that true for supports too? I started playing about a week ago and got placed Silver 1 but got hardstuck at gold 4. I was close to bringing my wins into the positive though. This season placement matches weren't a thing and I started in Silver 4 but made it to Silver 3 in I think 13 games. I'm not flawless but I feel like a lot of my teams are impossible to support.

[@TheKampfmaschine]

@@actualteddybear891 to some extent yes, though I'd say it is easiest to carry as dps or tank (for me at least). Also the difference between low gold/high silver isn't as drastic as between bronze and high gold/plat. For example, I am a low plat tank and can easily wipe a bronze team (with a little healing), but how I do in gold/plat lobbies can depend on my team. I'm consistent, but not always a hard carry. Don't get discouraged if you struggle to get back where you were a season before. You made it there once so you already know you can actually do it. And a little luck with good teammates can sometimes take a few games.

[@actualteddybear891]

@@TheKampfmaschine That's pretty cool. I'm pretty consistently solid which is why I think I was able to bring my wins almost into the positive (was three games off from +) after a loss streak of 12 (plus the losses that just occur from normal play.) A few of those were push games and they lasted about 2 minutes. Mostly bad luck there. Anyway, yeah it just sucks being down in silver where people flame if you ask them to do something like (to the tank) "Hey can you fight this hog instead of letting him walk by you?" It feels like a coin flip sometimes if my team even knows what game they're playing and I just don't know what I'm supposed to do with that. I just do what I can and try to keep people who aren't wildly out of position alive.

[@RebornJoker]

I agree. I've done that as dps and as tank. Even one tricked Tracer for a season, and got out of bronze(back in OW1)

[@BabyMandingo]

He is right he IS in elo hell… for his teammates. Man deserves bronze 5 with that aim and game sense lol

[@BabyMandingo]

Hanzo might be his main. She started doing stuff once the feeding stopped

[@visiionz_6699]

9:41 he really did that with genji 😂😂

[@solisimperium1203]

imagine genji using elevators LUL Did you know he is a NINJA? OMEGALUL

[@dripbingus4224]

i legit wanna see bronze player who says he deserves to be gold and he actually deserves to be even higher

[@Sizlnk]

My guy went 70 seconds without using storm arrows. But the dude can get to gold, aim is not terrible. Just need some humility, focus on his own mistakes instead of blaming his team and he should get to gold next season no problem. That goes for everyone. I feel everything below masters is rather achievable. Masters players usually have just way better mechanical skills then lower elos.

[@kill3rw0lf39]

First time i got to GM was on a smurf using widow 80%, mcree 15% and pharah or tracer for the last(on console). Immediately after that i got it on my main. I just let other people on my team tell me to switch off widow to soon into a game when most of the time i could make it work. Doing it on a smurf gave me the confidence to do it on my main and to stand up for myself

[@munoobinater403]

this guy is silver at best. I'm silver/gold myself and this guy was making mistakes i see in my wife's games who is low bronze or lower if possible lol

[@hostetjd]

@@kill3rw0lf39 I had a similar experience when I made masters. Low ELO players love to scream for switches rather than just trying to play better.

[@Real_MisterSir]

@@hostetjd yep the thing people (especially in mid/low ranks) need to realize, is that if their plays don't work, it's not the hero pick that's causing the issue. It's their playstyle and decisionmaking. Swapping from Cassidy to Hanzo will not make you suddenly stop peeking the same spam angles, it will not stop you from overcommitting in a duel, it will not stop you from all of the thousands of mistakes a player makes at this rank. Hero picks only truly matter once you are able to actually dial in your gameplay itself, or when you have a clear hero counter at play that you have to deal with specifically. Swapping out of frustration does nothing for combatting what frustrates you, it only lowers your ult charge.

[@kill3rw0lf39]

@@hostetjd yeah, i can understand why theyre frustrated. They dont understand why theyre losing so they get mad and lash out. They just got to take a step back, breath and look and themselves a little more

[@kingQ28]

6:35 white chocolate said it best “my man is playing mystery hero’s now” 😂😂😂😂

[@zaibachien]

9:42 my man doesn't even know his character climbs walls

[@Zoid_Smoked2]

Bro couldn’t hit shots with junk… almost feinted when I saw him on hanzo 😂

[@puchimausu]

We all have to remember that in most cases only you can make the difference on your team to rank up. If it feels like you have to carry to win team fights, then you are absolutely right…even as support as long as you diff the other support in either heals, staying alive or utility you will rank up.

[@Alex_Aramayo]

Yah I used to believe in ELO hell bc these videos & hearing other players experiences but now after playing ranked myself (Support main) I'm like yah NO it's pretty easy to climb, the only thing stopping you is teammates & yourself it's pretty rare when certain players actually belong in a higher elo & are stuck

[@nivada94]

Also, like flats says, bad teammates is a excuse. Cause if people are as good as they say they are, they should rank up, since you have only 4 chances to have a bad teammate with the other 4 people. And the enemy has 5. Cause you yourself are a person on your own team. As a high/silver low gold support i also most add, you can carry with support even with shit dpsers, you have supports like ana, baptiste, even zen that you can carry with even with bad dpsers, if you have good aim, positioning and cd management you can wreck enemies with ease.

[@mfn1311]

Well there are obviously other things as well other than just healing, deaths, kills, elims etc. like making space for you team for example that you can’t see on a leaderboard.

[@santy6625]

On god I learned that you’ll go up as u deserve it. I was hard stuck on bronze and I blamed it on the game. I kept losing and losing and was like “ I have the best stats tho it’s my tm8s” but as I learned the game, it’s not All about the stats. It’s about playing efficiently and doing your role correctly. As I started playing with my team more, learned how to position myself and learned the counters to the characters I started winning until I finally made it to plat 1. Today I just made it to diamond 5. It’s not the game or Elo hell it’s just u tbh

[@puchimausu]

@@mfn1311 this is also true

[@gabeh2003]

9:20 the audacity to wave LMAOOOO

[@vincechris99]

Sometimes people just have to accept they're placed in their ranks for a reason, if they are better than that they will surely climb and if they're not then they will stuck there, some people just won't accept this fact instead of practicing and trying to get better, kinda sad if you ask me.

[@IIkaine]

The second you start seeing your faults you'll rank I used to be gold like 3 years blamed everyone but my self started realizing maybe I'm not playing properly finished top 500 last season

[@berserkerknight3731]

the brother isnt stuck in helo hell, he is the helo hell

[@Alex_Aramayo]

Literally the 1st 60sec, I said NOPE he deserves BRONZE

[@jdasleigh1238]

didnt expect pc gold to be so much drastically different from console gold. I play plat support on console and it kinda just feels like silver open queue lmao

[@HVTCA.]

"bastion ults the roof" chat- "oxygen destroyed" rofl 9:29

[@DynamiteProd]

I’ve only been playing for a month and half. I’m currently gold 2 as a support and watching this made me feel better about myself to be honest. Just positioning wise I feel like I’m where I should be.

[@heartlessdonut2920]

It's always a bronze dps lol.

[@gobloopyourself4590]

12:47 this is what did it for me. Tossing mines like they grow on trees when you have perfectly good grenades

[@yo_ankels]

on his first teleport he was just showing how he doesn’t need cooldowns

[@honeybadger2898]

I hope he improves and gets higher in the ranks. Def feel like there’s some potential

[@lumputtaja4461]

I love how good jay thinks gold is

[@Destinyvoid]

This hurt way too much to watch I can't

[@gribthor]

i was so close to making gold with support climbed from bronze 5 to silver 2, and then had a horrible losing streak and knocked back to silver 4... hurts

[@TiMonsor]

i feel u. I got to g1 on support, went another 7\4 or 5, got... g1 again. and then g2. then just g4 somehow. ANd realized i wont make it back to the end of the season

[@jayyyyyyy04]

Good luck man you got this

[@whyreally685]

Learn how to play zen and you will stomp low rank lobbies. Just punishing everyone you see. You dont have to worry about healing, just put your orb on someone and destroy everyone you see. Low rank players dont know how to position themselves and cant really hit shots/skills.

[@Rock-vk9ei]

@@whyreally685 or Moira. If you play on role queue and there are multiple 200 hp characters, you should definitely play her. Fade into their backlines, throw an orb, suck and dodge as best you can. This will get you a lot of kills. Just make sure to stay alive.

[@aliceableton]

Good luck you can do it next season. I dropped from gold 2 to silver 4 in 2 sets of wins but was able to climb solo to gold 5 and with groups i was able to climb to plat 5 with mercy ❤

[@edp9863]

18:27 had me WEHEEZING omfg. As a high gold this made me feel so much better about my gameplay

[@karamei]

Can't believe we watched him make the same TP mistake repeatedly. Anyway I think a huge indicator regarding this guy's skill is how much he swaps heroes and never makes anything work, swapping between wildly different toolkits. This shows a massive lack of confidence as well as game knowledge. One big thing to keep your eye on with players is how fast they build ult charge. Higher skill players build ult very quickly compared to others in the lobby. This guy got almost all of his ult charge passively. And yeah some of these heroes were just not for him. Sombra, McCassidy, Reaper... I was not expecting the skill difference to be as blatant as it was, tbh, but I guess I also expected him to back up his claims at all :(

[@atmospheer3812]

4:05 the telep[ort in ow is really buggy it catches on late sometimes and tp's u somewhere it didn't even shjow prior to clicking, so its got nothing to do with his elo

[@not2stupidguitar]

I was bronze 4/5 for the majority of this season because of bad placements, just climbed to gold 3 the last few days. Elo hell absolutely exists and it's because of dudes like this basically throwing games without even realizing their mistakes.

[@caliber3210]

what is mean ( Elo ) ?

[@rosscoleman4049]

@@caliber3210 Your rank is essentially what elo is... they are talking about being stuck in a certain rank

[@rosscoleman4049]

Out of curiosity, how do you know you're not in the same boat this guy is? Thinking you're higher than you actually are...? Ironical statement you just made..

[@caliber3210]

@@rosscoleman4049 i am now top 500 so this is my Elo ?

[@rosscoleman4049]

@Caliber your elo would be grand Master/ master depending which you're in

[@eriny2k]

Watching him play Reaper made me feel physically ill…he kept using teleport & fade for no reason, then would immediately die after bc he had shit positioning with no way of escaping.

[@Themcranger21]

I love watching these videos because it really helps me see, first, what each ranking looks like and where I probably land, and 2nd, how I can improve. It really is hard to tell what each ranking looks like, especially since I've only played overwatch 2 for a month and never played the first, but I'd love to actually play in a gold or diamond just to see how it feels because, if I'm being honest, the bronze and silver people I've played with 9/10 times have no team work abilities and I feel like they hold me back both in rank and also growing in my skill.

[@Themcranger21]

Woops, I ment to say I would want to play in gold or platinum. I wouldn't mind playing diamond though I think that would probably be out of my league currently.

[@ethanfrench9111]

When I was playing O1 I was plat borderline Diamond and now over four years after my last comp game I think I’m probably silver.

[@RobinInAHoodie]

I always feel like I'm a bronze but after watching this I'm confident enough I might be a silver.

[@Aftertaste_]

Jay: "I can't wait to see what he does with his ult!" guy: *Proceeds to bomb a roof*

[@Belph-ny7qr]

Felt much better for being gold from this vid 😂

[@notequalto5179]

Getting destroyed isn't solely a bad thing. It's a great way to learn from mistakes and pushes you to improve. When I first started playing Echo in silver before plat, I definitely died a LOT charging into hitscans.

[@autumnbanks2945]

someone told me that if you pretend every shot taken at you is going to land, you'll play a lot smarter and its made my plays so much better and this shows how one bad player can decrease the whole teams stats

[@hpmc7426]

That is actually a good point. In high ranks the enemy’s shots actually DO land. So by treating the enemy like a masters players you yourself also put out a higher level of play.

[@Vexed711]

Treat every team like their top 500 I love that. I’m gonna use it

[@TheNightshotBR]

I always played Echo like a Genji with wings. Just be annoying, apply pressure and farm ult. Then coordinate with your team on your ult to get kills.

[@Fathom15128]

I'm a Gold Lucio player, and I always belive that I do not deserve the Ranking. I feel like I'm a Bronze Player who some how managed to sneak into Gold, but seeing this video gives me a bit more self confidence

[@wraith7371]

He just charged zayra the whole game💀

[@warnerbacher4350]

The way he plays sombra make me think there should be a rookie rank

[@hpmc7426]

It’s wooden, and also paper below that.

[@Julian-pw5mv]

Practice range.

[@mocheerio]

seemed like he had never played her before and hust expected her to work because shes "op"

[@rickymohar5016]

I love how the video cut so soon as the coach was giving advice, I didn’t see the stream but I have a feeling the bronze didn’t take it too well

[@saturn724]

8:55 that ult alone is enough to justify being in bronze

[@LoganH0076]

Does the other team know who the lower ranked player is? If so, that might be the reason they tend to die first like you mentioned. The other team might be looking at him a bit more

[@AncestorZzZ]

I love that Jay has Bob Belcher as a co-commentator

[@Slicer1230]

either had bad performance anxiety or he needs to put a few more hours into aim training

[@nobodyandnowhere6264]

I think my biggest problem is. In comp whatever class I'm in, I make it to the top of my board. And sometimes I get great victories. But then outta nowhere I'll get a team member leavin, dpc healers, tank chasing them kills, or a dps who refuses to switch to counter a character and then we lose

[@navviil3ra]

yep

[@emptysocks968]

his reaper was wood league, but nt

[@dlwlrminn]

i cannot believe that bastion ult 😨

[@perezdefault]

i'm a support main and feel like i deserve at least Plat. most of the time i'm helping my team in almost every aspect and even helped all my dps/tanks climb to plat/diamond. gets pretty frustrating cause i like the game and put in so much time but always end with a "shit team".

[@navviil3ra]

same here

[@cooltwittertag]

You're hardstuck then

[@Sweloe]

This was painful

[@obi1748]

do more of this series this shit was funny as hell

[@andyanguiano3042]

I like how theyre yelling bap bap bap and hes still focusing zarya

[@Uncreatedteachings]

You should get a team of bronze who think they deserve a certain rank vs that rank

[@Uncreatedteachings]

@bo rick lol yea I guess so I remember when I was bronze

[@thegodzillaguy2352]

When he was playing reaper I can see why he wasted teleports when fighting just because it is kinda hard sometimes to get teleport while being shot at but when he wasn’t in combat those were some very bad teleports lol

[@EuphoricAnarchist]

Looking for knowledgeable advice and non-troll feedback from TikTok is like looking for chocolate in a gas station toilet.

[@northweast5857]

The best thing I’ve learned throughout playing Overwatch is that I have the ability to run away.

[@LumaBean]

ngl I am also stuck in bronze and I can kinda feel where he's coming from, teammates dont act with intention whatsoever and refuse to group. Honestly I might try to get in one of these to see how id hold up with higher skill players.

[@DJWolfHouse]

Overwatch takes your performance as well as wins/losses into account. If you play enough and deserve to be higher you’ll climb. It’s just math. You’re not stuck.

[@LumaBean]

@@DJWolfHouse Every game I get 30-40 kills, 5 deaths, 10k damage, and potg, I also spend the most time on point compared to my team. IN BRONZE 5

[@princesscadance197]

I actually like this concept. When a player whines that they deserve a higher rank, put them in a lobby with players of that rank and see if they still think they deserve it afterward.

[@epicanova]

Literally just needs a better mouse/settings. The pixel skipping hurts my soul.

[@ashgoji8141]

Not me just starting OW and seeing this guy as super cool HAHAHA

[@Maceventur]

gold/plat is the rank of wasting ults only nanoblade sometimes or gravdragon

[@hostetjd]

Yes, ults should only be used after the rest of your team is dead and definitely not to make a play or engage the enemy team.

[@horodoomwolf]

@@hostetjd 100% gold mentality lmao

[@mito._]

I think the problem is hubris. People think they belong in a higher elo, so they join a high elo game and think they can pop off. Rather than realizing they're not in Kansas anymore and should be much more observant and proactive than reactive. You know nothing of the things you do not.

[@ImKevinDurant]

I don’t even know if bro deserves bronze💀

[@businessdawg2]

Fax

[@JacketCK]

refusing to switch heroes automatically marks him as a bronze player, he's echo on defense with an Ana, Baptiste, Hanzo and Sojourn on the other team, They are QUITE LITERALLY built to counter any flying characters, ESPECIALLY ECHO 💀

[@TheYugilicious]

I don't believe in elo hell for dps. The carrying potential is so much higher than OW1.

[@cxwr5859]

it definitely exists, im in it, i always have the most damage and most kills (hanzo and ashe main) yet we always be losing (g1 high btw)

[@TheYugilicious]

@@cxwr5859 I would say elo hell is about people being stuck in bronze. Gold1 is maybe just your skill level? Mine is silver 2. Which is about correct I would say. I'm a support main and just keep to protecting my supports en helping the tank finish off the target they choose. I suck at flanking and have thus 0 carry potential.

[@cxwr5859]

@@TheYugilicious I mean I don't think my skill level is gold as I'm always diffing the other DPS, but idk maybe I'm over thinking how good I actually am

[@TheYugilicious]

@@cxwr5859 That's not up to me to make that estimation. You also might be correct that matches have not been in your favor. I would suggest grinding even more next season and looking where you might output (even) more carry potential. Wish you all the best!

[@cxwr5859]

@@TheYugilicious Yeah thank you a lot, I started very late this season so I hope to improve! Best of luck to you as well!