This BRONZE thinks he deserves DIAMOND... so we made him prove it...

What rank does this Bronze new Apex gamer really deserve?
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[@BirnoOCE]

Do you think he deserves diamond? Come hang out with me - www.twitch.tv/birnooce

[@gogs3237]

No controller will always win against mnk he is gold at his best

[@yequals7]

Yes!!!

[@keagandoherty]

BRUH 50k kills and your not pred thats crazy i have a friend he has 12k kills and hit pred 4 times

[@gogs3237]

@@keagandoherty birno could be pred if he wanted but he rather creates cool videos than grinding ranked

[@keagandoherty]

@@gogs3237 i was not talking about him i was talking about the diamond player

[@beaubonicplague]

Let's all remember that 1v1's dont mean you deserve a higher rank, if you are better than the rank you currently have, there may be some fundamental understandings of how apex plays, and the way that teamfights are played. You can win all your 1v1's but if you push every single fight in a BR you're going to get ego'd

[@myth2285]

yeah, but their game sense is crazy. They really don't seem like they push every fight.

[@Sullys-GamingYT]

You need more than just a 1v1 capability. 1v2s ain't shit if you can't rotate or have any sort of map knowledge

[@760Chris]

Big facts he’d be maybe in arenas even then I doubt it the movement ain’t there and the gaming iq is lacking

[@drocxxx712]

Your absolutely right everyone can shoot good potentially higher ranking diamond and up just no game awareness better like rotating,know what fights to take and what fights to not take and I'm a multiple seasons masters player not one of those players with masters badge that's hard stuck gold only has badge cuz in earoy seasons ratted his way Into it amd never hit it ever again

[@zeroiceice008]

you have to win that is the goal

[@Calm_au]

Both the gold and plat player are literal bronze players. There’s no way

[@spedmonie416]

Plat player was console keep that in mind I’ve seen my friends console lobbies they’re actually borderline bot lobbies when he queues in pc lobbies he literally gets 0 damage in 1-2 fights everyone knows console is for mediocre and casual players

[@adensmith6440]

⁠@@spedmonie416it really depends. As someone who has played both PC and Console lobbies, it’s luck based where you land. I’ve had console lobbies way more difficult than many PC lobbies and vice versa.

[@yeetusclet246]

@@spedmonie416 Then why do pc pros complain about aim assist so much when console players suck

[@spedmonie416]

@@yeetusclet246 nearly all the pros are on pc using controller your argument isn’t valid also there is a huge skill gap between plat players on pc and console as I said before

[@yeetusclet246]

@@spedmonie416 then they should still suck because they are still using a console controller

[@drocxxx712]

That "gold lifeline" deserves to be in rookie still lmao

[@fade1087]

fr

[@norsu1906]

no way a gold is playing like that 😂😂😂😂😂

[@gogs3237]

S17 gold

[@norsu1906]

yeah s17 masters play like that tbh@@gogs3237

[@Vyrol-q6wr82]

Getting gold in s17 is wild

[@KriiggeLIVE]

s17 gold is like Rookie 3 and he is controller so he would be like Rookie 10, you meet him if you ever get bot lobby in your game 👌🏻

[@losparanoia190]

I only got to gold in S17 but I can compete well in high diamond lobbies. (Got my first damage badge against a few animated masters back in S14) Sometimes gold just means someone doesn’t grind as much. In this case it’s clearly someone who should be gold ratting to be higher.

[@cadedebiase1034]

can’t lie that was the worst plat i’ve ever seen

[@Calm_au]

Literally. They’re a silver player fs

[@Master_CheeseTV]

You talking about me😐

[@finleylaughton5349]

@@Master_CheeseTVthe one you was playing against not you

[@legodingseling]

With all respect that gold player was NOT gold

[@jcha15]

That gold was questionable ^_^

[@rabidskylark2065]

I noticed something with all the players up to platinum. The bronze player won those fights because his general FPS/mechanical skills were superior. The lack of general FPS/mechanical skills in all the players he went up against until platinum was actually quite surprising. It really shows how much more important map knowledge is compared to those in the battle royale gamemode. I am thinking that this is the real reason that he is bronze.

[@Master_CheeseTV]

😐

[@rabidskylark2065]

@@Master_CheeseTV Troll

[@hotwheelz8232]

would be cool to throw him on a diamond account and see how he does in queue since so much of ranked play is about making the right calls, map awareness, and choosing the right fights

[@peterkelemen5981]

In S19 i think you can queue in to diamonds. I got teammates who was diamond 1 and diamond 2 and i was bronze and now im silver 4.... so often i got enemies whos last season masters with a master bannerframe... maybe this is the reason he is bronze because he queued up against masters. I experienced it too much :(

[@Slifixs]

@@peterkelemen5981no such thing as diamond lobby’s anymore. All the lobby’s are based off your skill

[@Master_CheeseTV]

true

[@petergriffin278]

This video really represents how large the diamond and plat skill gap is.

[@SamuelKonig-hc8dz]

Nah thats def not a good plat player, probally mainly got carried or had so grind hard too get plat 4 She made so much mistakes, bad movement and ok aim most plats i know are way better

[@Calm_au]

Was gonna say the same thing. That plat player is silver at best

[@keagandoherty]

@@SamuelKonig-hc8dz i 100% agree

[@jakobrozmanc4919]

As a plat player 2 seasons now I saw so many small mistakes that could complitly change the outcome

[@beaubonicplague]

@@SamuelKonig-hc8dz if you grind for plat doesn't that make you a plat player? If someone has reached that rank and can't climb higher than that's clearly their peak. If a master player is in plat just because they don't play, are they a plat player? Or are they just a master's player who doesn't play ranked that much? Being a ___ tier player means that you're at or near your peak performance.

[@dylanfullard3719]

Im suprised any of these guys made it out of rookie holy fuck

[@jckfrost36]

Bro not tryna be toxic but that gold player was not even close to average for gold lmao

[@ViolentKarma77]

If he deserves diamond, then I deserve pred by now….

[@Master_CheeseTV]

Lies

[@mor1127]

@@Master_CheeseTV if this is actually you there is no way you will get out of a gold lobby, you have a lot to work on

[@mor1127]

Not trying to be toxic you have good aim your game sense just isn’t there and that just comes with time

[@DogeTheBigTanDog]

@@Master_CheeseTV i don't think you're a diamond, idk who birno picked out but they ain't that great

[@user-fk9iy8ql4y]

a bronze player 1v1ing a bronze-plat player is like 1v1ing your 56 year old dad in soccer, although your dad may score a few times you will still most likely win. now a bronze player vs a diamond player is like 1v1ing your older brother in soccer, your older brother would most likely win. now 1v1ing a fucking pred is like 1v1ing ronaldo’s 6yr son, you’re gonna get you’re ass beat. basically if they’re worth a diamond player, why aren’t they diamond? why aren’t they silver? why aren’t they gold? it’s because although they may be able to beat a diamond, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re worth diamond. Like i beat master players a few times it doesn’t mean i’m worth a master since rn i’m in plat and if i’m worth a master why am i not master? i beat a few master players but just because i beat like 4 master players it doesn’t mean i’m a master, i died to more masters than i have killed. to fully see if this person is worth diamond you have to make them fight in ranked against diamond players.

[@ShockinglyAverageApex]

He played well when he was confident in his 1v1. The Plat player was a little iffy imo as well

[@bigbodybrevblm4173]

I think this video actually proves to an extent that 1v1s don't necessarily reflect rank, during the 1v1s it showed that cheese's awareness was severely lacking. He was constantly looking the at the wrong angles based off of the audio queues that were happening. (Maybe because he actually tries to anchor in ranked and doesn't really have to try and get entry frags) But then in the 3v3's it seemed like his awareness spiked. I'm assuming the teams were in coms and actively communicating.

[@platinumgaming2543]

Man I feel like it would be so much fun to be in one of these 😂

[@stupitdog6907]

he looks like someone who was skilled in another fps game and just has some fundamentals to learn in apex

[@solhilder7368]

i dont think so i reckon he just has good aim because in other fps games cover and 50-50 rule as well as pushing when there was some entry damage are all things that are used in fps games other than apex and he does not use any of these so i think that he just has good aim and is cocky.

[@ariesthefirst7680]

With the squad thing I wish you had switched the team up but those ones against the plat and gold was crazy

[@PastKJ_YT]

I love you birno!! You have inspired me to be a Watson main and love the content

[@garrymiller3171]

I could tell in the first fight just from his cross hair placement and tracking he's pretty good.

[@chrissizemore8705]

Look, I've tried to solo queue grind in ranked and its a nightmare. I couldn't get higher than plat 2. It just really is crap shoot in whether you get teammates who are competent and know what they're doing, or teammates who are just gonna W key straight into every fight, get themselves killed, then spam ping while you're trying to clean up their mess.

[@Cxptionz..]

Exactly and my friends don't play apex or stopped playing apex so I'm hard stuck Plat 1 but I joined a club who plays ranked and is actually decent

[@crimsonzane4983]

honestly i wanna do one of these since i am currently stuck in silver, my two main people i play ranked with just make the worst choices

[@miketemos2727]

So how does he have level 100 on his flatline if he is only level 99.. 🧐

[@JamokeEnoch]

Because they’re two different level systems. I only play about 6-8 hours a week and I never use the Havoc unless I have to and I have that weapon to around lvl 40. If he primarily uses a Flatline it would easily take less than a month with consistent play to get it to level 100.

[@TheGoldenApex]

That’s what I’m wondering

[@TheGoldenApex]

@@JamokeEnochI play like 12 hours a week and my highest lvl is 35 with r9

[@TheGoldenApex]

I’m lvl 620

[@personperson5292]

@@TheGoldenApex Literally my highest level is 15, maybe its I use a lot of diff guns, I have over 100 if I add them all up, but still level 100 is wild for a level 99

[@tphil5901]

The gold and plat players were not the type in my lobbies lemme tell ya. Barely moved and missed mostly every shot

[@nzkuro]

If anything, the gold and plat player deserved bronze 😂

[@exesalt]

I get being hard stuck gold or plat because of teammates but stuck in bronze is just a skill issue

[@Master_CheeseTV]

Work on gramer Lol

[@tso-tiger]

You saying that then misspelling grammar is crazy 😂​@@Master_CheeseTV

[@Sullys-GamingYT]

I always push people off ziplines when they come up. Im fuckimg goated with the timing and never miss.

[@Stodds13]

If he thinks he deserves it he needs to grind and get there. Shit doesn’t just get handed out!

[@brazaveli9424]

When I saw the tweet you were looking for 1 of every rank I wasn't expecting this 😅

[@oldthug7624]

If you're stuck in bronze, then you're doing something wrong. Even when I first started playing in s12, I couldn't stay in bronze if I wanted. Unless you're getting insanely unlucky with your teammates, ive never been bronze for more than a few days, regardless of if I was playing good or not.

[@idzproject]

in s19 it's normal tho if you still stuck in bronze.

[@chieftex3015]

The ranked system is hella fucked up now tho

[@losparanoia190]

Repeated plat-diamond player for 6 seasons, i’ve been stuck in bronze 2 almost since the start of the season. Solo Q is hell this season.

[@losparanoia190]

Hella hard to get out of bronze when every fight is against masters three stacks.

[@skylershuman7705]

​@@losparanoia190I feel you. I've been Masters since s9, and I'm stuck Gold because my matchmaking is absolutely awful. Like I'm still playing with current Diamond/Masters, but I'm Gold...

[@jungillestt02]

He relies way too much on his care packages that just give away his position. That last fight went on for way too long they would of been 4th partied lmao 😂

[@monkukudagod1]

You cant convince me that first guy wasnt ratting to gold..not chasing people you practically cracked in a 1V1 IS MAAAADDDDDD

[@Chipshyyy]

I feel like my teamates hold me back

[@erwinsebastiancurto3673]

in pred/master the fights are shorter, some fights are in 45 seconds

[@999jrd]

Great vid

[@lucasgraham7811]

Ok watching these players play makes me think I could be masters I’m only play rn but I believe I could be at that level

[@Omenxiiii]

I’m in diamond. I deserve rookie

[@ChanNeko900]

If gold is like this than maybe I also deserve gold😂

[@micah3944]

If that poket lifeline was a plat i have to be a pred man

[@j0eyyy]

How do i get into one of these? Im a plat/diamond and i deserve masters

[@alexanderhenriguez5369]

I have been a life line main since season 1 up to now and I only got as far as Gold 4 because I don't have a good team it's just a bunch of randoms and campers who don't pick up my banner

[@okisquirrel]

You should try and compare skill levels of different regions for each rank. Like you could see what NA bronze versus Japanese Bronze are like. Or compare like a Japanese bronze to a NA Diamond. Just a thought.

[@Legend_what-ifs]

Once you get past plat the skill gap is there. Same with D1 to master and so on. There are a few things holding him back, such as running with your gun out and not moving up off dmg. I say he's a plat player

[@Slifixs]

Yeah I’m d1 rn I can hit masters but I’m not good enough to play in masters YET

[@ARMAfuckenGEDDON]

@@Slifixs d1 and masters are the same lobbies so no idea what youre on about

[@Slifixs]

@@ARMAfuckenGEDDON bruh I’m talking about how I’m good enough to play in them not like I’m actually but I can compete against master players

[@calebrosado5294]

I'm stuck in bronze as well I only solo q I have been diamond 2 times season 15 and 11 and because of promotionals I I'm having a hard time ranking up

[@eliteguard_x]

Okay but i absolutely need to know where he got that nessie holospray that's the pikachu face

[@user-fk9iy8ql4y]

it’s in the post malon event packs

[@blueduck5695]

If this guy deserved any rank, it's plat at best but most likely gold. We weren't hearing the comms of his teammates but seeing how at least one of them knows what they are doing, he is probably making the callouts. Players who are iffy, such as this guy, can easily be told "Go do this" and if the guy making that call is smart like the 50k lifeline main, then it's probably going to be an easy kill.

[@Yulgars]

Does the good player not have thumbs or is it a season 17 gold?¿?

[@Ethan-yg8me]

This video shows how bad the ranked system is and has been the last few seasons. Not Birnos fault, of course. Im just amazed that Respawn keeps trying to force a bad idea that simply isn't going to work.

[@YadielAcevedo-ko2vs]

Love the e video and I also love wattson

[@Tiger-qx3bq]

Rank doesn’t even matter at this point cus the mmr system just matches you with people that have similar skill with you instead of the actual rank you are in so you can be fighting masters in bronze or silver as long as your skill match them and I’ve been fighting diamond and masters in my bronze lobby but it’s not as bad as last season since kills and assists actually give you decent lp this season I’ve been ranking up smoothly but ye he deserves the diamond rank

[@elimanning4848]

Yo this season with the hidden mmr it ruins the whole point of ranked

[@elimanning4848]

Like I’m playing press in silver because of my stats

[@aimassistedkill5068]

the level that your plat players are...put me in coach

[@Big_Shezza]

Birno you are so underrated and just keep up the godly content

[@Yui-xp2qq]

what platform or server is this because the diamonds are kinda questionable i mean the 3v3 ones the solo guy was decent

[@iLAWWWi]

It was an NA server and I am from OCE played on 200 ping for these. 😂🙃

[@Yui-xp2qq]

@@iLAWWWi explains a lot

[@rking359]

he was pretty good in his team fights and 1v1’s up to plat. But they’ll never have that much time to team fight in an actual game, especially in diamond, they’ll get thirded. So his shooting and mechanical skill may be around a high plat or low diamond level but that’s just a small piece of the pie needed to actually be a diamond player. If he gets a 3 stack going he’d definitely fair better and I could see him making plat very easily

[@skyilercrowe9495]

I’m gold one right now I took a year and a half break from this game and I could guarantee you I could beat all of them people the dude with 53,000 kills was not that great. It’s a time thing kills does not equal skill.

[@SSCMB]

1:32 Watch the sight on the r-99 very closely

[@eldenmox5525]

Ranked makes no sense now. Bots can be pred cuz they win against other bots and good players get stuck cuz they are only in matches against other good players

[@Cataclysm999]

You would have to be EXTREMELY Lucky for that The chance is fucking low for you to make that statement

[@Gimppy775]

I'd like to participate in one of these haha

[@christopherpitts3941]

I feel lik a lot of these players tht claim tht could be a higher rank arent thinking about the big picture when playing a br ur rotations, comms and team fighting against diff legends and playstyles really matter when playing solo as well as how u can adapt to other playstyles from ur randoms its not just about 1v1s a lot goes into to undestanding the game bro only lvl 99 so soloq might not be the thing for him but i can deff see him hittin dia in a 3 stack

[@liggerstuxin1]

People think this guy is faking his rank, but there’s so many small mistakes that he’s making that it would be hard to fake being incompetent.

[@XavierNguyen-rc9be]

I swear im hard stuck silver but with these players i deserve diamond

[@tylerhopewell2541]

I feel the same im a plat but could probably be a master

[@skyhopper2610]

Watching this and seeing how shit half the people are I should be at least diamond

[@aaronstonelake5199]

Why cant i get those play players? Im a diamond player but once i hit plat i just get diamond players and when im in diamond now i get gold players on my team 😭

[@declanwalters3387]

hi yeah teammates are kinda trash when solo Qing and I feel like I should be diamond or plat

[@S1mply7x]

my guy been getting his players from wish i swear

[@wooshn7657]

Yo birno idk how to participate in these videos but yeah im a "hardstuck" silver but i believe that if i had better mates id be around plat 2, so if u gonna do another video like that im down to see if i got plat level

[@Slifixs]

If u can get to play 3 u can hit diamond it’s not any different just time

[@Sizzleator]

Bullets curving @6:30

[@skyhopper2610]

That is not a gold player you cannot convince me otherwise

[@mrdeadmonsters]

If that guy was gold i should be at least plat if i played ranked and i suck 😭

[@ChrisTaylor-qb2ri6]

That plat played worse then the gold💀

[@kotus6235]

Bro lifeline with 2200 kills is playing like that.

[@Totally_not_Simpin]

i would have seen the plat be better but it is how it is

[@Totally_not_Simpin]

also noticed if you are bronze pls play behind cover!!

[@axzethh305]

Great video! Small issue with it tho. You mentioned Laww being "almost masters" and yet you let him play on the bronzes team against a stack of diamond players? Personally I feel like that was cheesed(no pun intended).

[@iLAWWWi]

I only ever hit diamond mate and quit as OCE has no ques above. Also I'm a pubstomper I'm to mentally buggered to have patience for ranked.

[@aisono5838]

those were some bad plat and gold people like wtf

[@ShayBby]

The plat player…something was off

[@hueg.rection4124]

That's a carried plat if ever I've seen one

[@DragoZtype22]

If that's a good player I must be diamond

[@NeilMuse]

Bro just grind and get better if you deserve it you'll get it, clearly you just don't deserve it yet.

[@Slifixs]

Back in my day I use to say. If you can’t sólo q to d4 than your not good enough to be in diamond

[@xxcridonxx7614]

Used to say that too lol

[@TheGoldenApex]

Bros lvl 93😂

[@Peter-ui6ey]

No way that plat was a human

[@user-wt2oe7yj5k]

How is he on controller when he has number 1 and 2 to swap guns and 4 to equip bats

[@user-iy4mi9ld7t]

Blud law was way too good

[@alonzopulliam2574]

Can anybody explain to me why is his shots curving like that

[@staymadkidyt]

birno was wondering if i could be in one of your videos just like this im a hard stuck plat and i think i could beat a master and would love to be in one of ur videos keep it up with great work.

[@nzv_]

no plat can beat a master

[@sirturdaloter141]

@@nzv_ , I'm unranked and melt preds.

[@hezekiahalcantar4731]

Bro just has mid gun skill and a good strafe so thats why bro this he needs to be in diamond 💎

[@justnioh]

if that guy was plat then im masters/pred 💀

[@thebassasinator2598]

theres no way that them gold and plat players were real they both bot walked

[@slayz1515]

Imagine being so bad you have to play loba in a 3v3 like this lol

[@dylanfullard3719]

At this rate im starting to think im a master or pred player lol

[@Apexisbetterthanfortnite]

I believe I should be platt or diamond but I’m bronze

[@peeps-go2wh]

To me its more the time commitment that kills me. I love higher ranks but the time to get there sucks with life in the way. Or your passion for the game wanes up and down.

[@user-nf5kv9ft8y]

Plz I need to try this the highest I ever gotten was gold because my Temates are not good I feel like I deserve diamond atleast

[@PhatPhinx]

im plat, that plat player has been boosted every, single, time.

[@samjohn5982]

So rarely do I meet diamond players that do over 100 damage with an r9 and take 25 damage that stop and pop a health drone, while having full health, instead of pushing off that damage. And that’s usually in 1v2 or 1v3 scenarios. Not pushing off that damage in a 1v1 alone proves plat at the very best. Not to mention poor movement and game awareness to begin with. If this was in pc diamond lobbies I’d be thrilled.

[@3xclusive_tyyy]

all respect he knows very trash players bcuz aint NO WAY you telling me thats a plat and gold player bcuz I be playing with plat and gold player that are really good like most of them got over 20k kills