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[@Ehroar]

Are you team Liars or Syntho? Build: dim.gg/agpaq4i/Equipped

[@vanskomeros]

What are both cloak perks ?

[@gj8622]

Team Spirit of the Caliban. It is stupid ehroar, trust me

[@xiasx6262]

Liars has always been better before nerf and post nerf

[@billcipher534]

Liars with combination blow and calibans.

[@OneMeanReaper]

I have the liars and caliban cloak. I love it. Plus with Caliban you’re gonna kill all the ads with the ignition and won’t be surrounded so there goes the Synthos buff after five seconds.

[@Savage-Destiny]

A long time ago, I switched from Hunter to Titan because I enjoyed Combination Blow so much, but I realized there's a whole "Melee focused" class with Titan. This makes it seem like it's time to return.

[@Mand0117]

hunters have always been the better melee class lmao goes to show a lot of people just simply dont play the other classes

[@Eesh_]

@@Mand0117hunters’ melee build before lacked the survivability without assassins cowl. Titans had survivability and damage with strand, Now u can have the best damage and survivability with hunter. So Titans were better for melee pre-final shape

[@41MillenniumSchizoidMan]

​@@Mand0117 amazing how you sounded so confident and yet are so wrong, hunters have had a few very strong melee builds that have sometimes even had the highest damage but as far as class goes titan has always been better. Much more variety, insane survivability on bonk, great team support on strand, insane DPS on strand, amazing super up time and as clear on void.

[@TheHeadincharge]

@@41MillenniumSchizoidManMy god are you annoying…

[@xnimbus_7972]

@@Mand0117 yeah if you really wanna count throwing knife as a melee

[@flamingscar5263]

hunters: "Look at me, I'm the titan now"

[@yaopps4416]

Hunters getting Synthoceps nerfed is going to be so funny

[@d3vilmareyt354]

They already did let's be real the last nerf didn't really effect strand titan that much it was still the standard titan build to use in the raid race. Synth got nerfed cause hunters would have it and strand/ banner got nerfed so strand titan didn't break the game lol

[@Luke973T]

​@d3vilmareyt354 Exactly. People whined about nerfs a month ago because they really thought that bungie would deflate our power at a time like this. It was obvious that the nerfs were going to be implemented to keep us from completely trivializing the game

[@Keyshawn13]

Funny thing is that synthos isn't working properly on the class item, it's not giving the full DMG buff

[@d3vilmareyt354]

@Keyshawn13 that's not even surprising to me that bungies favorite has more damage scaling with a gimped version of the exotic than titans with the real thing lol

[@cease1337]

Lmao you haven't been playing long enough obviously. Combination Blow is what will DEFINITELY get nerfed. They will most likely cut the time from 20sec to 10sec

[@HerFather]

Hunters make the best Titans

[@RaptusBrot]

Fax

[@adaminfiesto2533]

Always have 🔫

[@RelznirZ]

Bungie please, they can't keep getting away with this

[@Kideem]

i just dont understand how titan is the "melee class" yet hunters still have better melee builds seems like titans are starting to lose their identity a little bit:(

[@bonobouare872]

Now we know why they made the "typo" for the final shape exotic armor

[@FragdaddyXXL]

If the target is frozen, the punch will be even higher damage when it shatters.

[@FC_mania]

Combo that with Facet of Ruin and you can demolish mobs AND bosses alike

[@immxrtal_02]

I you are going to use one two punch, the shatter will be caused from the shotgun shot so

[@Beast-mf7br]

@@immxrtal_02 if you have ads near...shoot an ad to proc 1-2p, then punch the frozen target...but then you also lose the 200% invis melee buff (if you're invis at the time)...catch 22...good thing 1-2 punch isn't necessary, better off without it i'd say..think it's only 40% now with liar's since the nerf anyways...synthos is more versatile for sure, it's insanely fun with threaded spike

[@Black2overlord]

@@Beast-mf7bryou have a very small window to proc all that and it’s hyper inconsistent.

[@Beast-mf7br]

@@Black2overlord ...explain...because its insanely easy to dodge twice near a champion with ads around...which freezes the target, then you literally one punch it and it disappears.. the 1-2p shotgun is the only thing with a tight window (which isn't necessary at all, only useful on bosses imo)

[@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4]

There are too many fun combos (as a Hunter). Liars with Renewal for Armor + damage, Renewal + Cyrtarachne for Frost armor + Woven mail, Verity + Inmost for ability spam, Assassin + Gyrfalcon for a pocket Gyrfalcon for any subclass. I'm having a hard time taking a break from farming these to get every combo I can lol.

[@starkraven1148]

Facts, I have an inmost/liars, a galanor/gyrfalcon a inmost/verity a foetracer/cyrtarachne and a renewal/ stars eater and a dragon/ star eater. I just did the mission yesterday and farmed the chest in overthrow for a few hours and got all but one of these listed.

[@ronaldhollowayiii2777]

@@starkraven1148this is my plan for this weekend, farming chests

[@user-mr6hp7ge1n]

The fact that you’re able to do more damage then some people get in a raid boss damage phase with a single punch is wild

[@woomyboy98]

Rip arc hunter, you will not be missed. Hello prismatic hunter my new best friend

[@jphish8724]

Great video! Really clear communication (which is rare in lots of these videos!) Thanks!!

[@parrassj]

as a titan main the whole class in general needs a whole rework. =(

[@Nukiium]

Right there with you, but I will remain a titan main regardless

[@crabunderarock5548]

Yall have banner of war and sol invictus still, calm down.

[@KelhamJack]

Titan has two issues 1. DPS during a lot of the bosses 2. Prismatic Titan is missing bonk hammer I was a Titan main last season but this season I am a Hunter main as it stands, better ad clear, more fun, better damage, better dps, survivability, it's honestly great 🤣 Their exotic class items are also busted too, so good

[@thonorderud]

​@@crabunderarock5548Yeah, but banner of war feels buggy now.

[@Oizys0miseria]

​@crabunderarock5548 brother, those aren't even on prismatic, while Hunter got combination blow and Warlock got DEVOUR It must be nice to take crutches, but we out here crawling on the floor

[@giantslayer9335]

I don’t get it anymore. Hunters punch better than titans, warlocks do support better than titans, and both do DPS better than titans? What the fuck are titans supposed to do then?

[@yeetman7728]

get nerfed? idk seems pretty obvious to me...

[@PolarHL]

We're pretty okay at not dying, I guess.

[@spoiler1828]

play pvp

[@flamingscar5263]

be a brick wall, Titans are the kings of "I have more health then you" with things like woven mail and void over shield being the easiest to maintain on titan, I'd argue titan is the best solo class, they dont keep others alive well, dont have the best punching anymore, but they keep themselves alive very, very well

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

@@PolarHL worse than both hunters and warlocks due to perma invise and and warlock well/class ability 😂

[@BaD87KaRMa]

I tested in this lost sector yesterday. If you cross counter a frozen enemy you hit 999,999 with the other dmg stacking.

[@Beast-mf7br]

yup, as long as you have enough ads around and have combox3...nothing lives lol...duskfield comes in handy in this case...that's why i want that renewal/liar's combo...especially for bosses, then you can drop a duskfield on them (and a stasis super, if you use it) and punch away for 10+ seconds while also stacking frost armor

[@sonny3602]

Damn titans really just need a whole rework huh

[@crazyraccoon8]

Bruh, they’re not just about to rework the classes after the final expansion for D2.

[@tremendoshd2356]

@@crazyraccoon8 Final Expansion? bruh you have no clue.

[@crazyraccoon8]

@@tremendoshd2356 bruh actually final expansion for d2, come back to this comment when another comes out.

[@Colyo62]

after having to completely carry add clear on contest im not too worried about it, it was titan meta all the way up until witness damage phase. and as if concecration prismatic wasnt cracked enough, snythos and severence? they wot?

[@tman_theboss4171]

@@crazyraccoon8 bro, unless the game completely dies, they are most definitely making another expansion. They already have the idea for year 11 with the project frontiers.

[@jtylermcclendon]

As a Titan since D1 who came back a month ago...I don't know a single thing titans do that hunters and warlocks can't do better

[@ls7205]

bungie: "we are nerfing titans only good exotic because hunters are actually broken with it"

[@albertbenejan9309]

It’s crazy because they can setup shit so easily WITHOUT BEING SURROUNDED, like damn man.

[@christianwaters3437]

Only good exotic lol what pyrogale, hoil peregrine grieves, falling star and both the new exotics are good lol

[@razikazmi6840]

@@christianwaters3437its ur typical destiny whining hysteria

[@ls7205]

@christianwaters3437 name a single endgame player that use any of those, except falling star on atraks and pyrogale as a swap exotic.

[@ls7205]

@albertbenejan9309 as u can set up damage rotations, a lot easier in any other class without a single condition.

[@tazecamo]

Everyone: Titan’s shouldn’t have a OP melee class that can one phase all dungeon bosses Bungie: Gives one to Hunter Everyone: YAYYYYYYY COOL NEW HUNTER BUILD

[@MrMilks_]

glad to see someone else found this build. ive been using this for days. its so broken

[@vengecmk]

i have the exact roll in this video caliban/liars grapple grenade is good for this cuz they detonate off the melee after the grapple and you still go invis if you're running stylish executioner of course

[@boysenbeary]

Honestly kind of sad. I feel like in terms of punch gameplay, prismatic and the exotic class item have been quite a let down for titans

[@razikazmi6840]

Majority of titans have complained that for the entirety of destiny they are just melee build. Did u see the pushback with strand titan? And all of a sudden its what yall want back. Destiny players are sum else

[@vblegh1620]

@@razikazmi6840 they're not just one whining entity lol its a diverse playerbase everybody is always gonna have sm to say one way or the other

[@boysenbeary]

@@razikazmi6840I mean? I’m not them? It’s almost as if different people exist on the internet? 🫢

[@Furiouspenguin27]

⁠@@razikazmi6840if you can follow, titans are the melee class but basically the worst to do it.

[@razikazmi6840]

@@Furiouspenguin27 so after using prismatic u seriously came to the conclusion that titan is supposed to punch things? Consecration, barricades sending out rockets and suspend. A jolt strand nade and the super that is a massive axe for insane damage. Not even worth arguing this lol

[@benjustwantstobegreat]

we can all enjoy crayons in our own special ways

[@Beamer2ez]

Titans are completely obsolete now, Hunters take me on as one of your own sons🙏

[@izanagisburden9465]

we learned from the best.... ape together strong now

[@limpyleg1570]

Wait till you hear about a titan’s strand super

[@MildsandThatYac]

😂😂😂 yea bro your crazy. Titan builds are fucking nuts

[@Ronin_Wrath]

welcome crayon eater

[@ckrueger7488]

Titans are completely obese

[@corujariousa]

Thanks for the video! Love your builds! I have been away for a while so I have a lot to catch up. Can we use the exotic class item with another exotic armor piece?

[@lanx3737]

Note for grapple, its can be inconsistent with stylish, though most of the time, if not all the time, the grapple melee will give you a free invis, which you can chain into melees and gives you a free weaken, though i think overall duskfield is better, if you think grapple is more fun, go for it. i was tested things and found this build on day one, and i have almost always used grapple

[@Heroiixz]

It’s officially the One Punch Man build (having a cloak seals the deal)

[@th3summoner]

Titans are so bad right now that a balanced exotic on Titans is OP on other classes...

[@razikazmi6840]

Titans just arent op melee characters. Which is something people have been complaining about for the entirety of destiny. Now when yall arent melee kings its an issue….

[@MildsandThatYac]

Not really bro, titans are pretty crazy in pve

[@th3summoner]

@@MildsandThatYac Lmao look Day one Salvations edge class completions. Crazy take.

[@abrahamlincoln4186]

Brother the final boss a G spot only a knight hawk could love warlock wasn’t balling out either

[@tmntheaveyfire6822]

@@th3summonerlook at any encounter instead of the last one. Of course people would play optimally in the hardest raid of all time, titans could beat the raid, just was chosen not too. Plenty of other areas of the game have titans picked more than anything else, its 1 encounter.

[@Kideem]

i love when bungie gives the most powerful melees to hunters rather than the melee class:)

[@crazyraccoon8]

This sentence makes no sense.

[@VengefulLuna12]

Hunters have always been the massive dmg punch titan only had that when strand came out, hunters had solod riven with just punches

[@Endless10ppp]

Well to be fair hunter are rogues now :D

[@Garganthor]

It actually makes sense because hunters are the assasin-ish class that sneaks on enemies and 1 shots. But the ad clear is out of hand

[@wood5596]

Strand titan still competes and can still solo raid bosses, but for the rest of the subclasses yea

[@dacedave4161]

Make Titans great again. No more nerfs. Give us our stuff back.

[@trich742]

I've found another unique melee build that roughly as good. Combine khepris sting + snare bomb, grapple melee. Vs Carl this combo will eat roughly 30% of his health on a grapple melee, plus it will unravel and weaken him and both dot effect will proc each other. Next you can pair it will Legend of Acrius (or a trench barrel shotgun) and the snare grapple melee will proc trench barrel. Additionally you can run Bastion with its updated saints fists perk which buffs melee and grapple melee for 3 seconds, together it will bring Carl to 50% health. Throw in winters shroud + threaded spector and once you snare grapple melee you can dodge which slows and the specter will explode further damaging them. Between Bastion and winters shroud you can stun both unstoppables and overloads.

[@notsogreatone075]

I love how this comes out right after they Nerf the hell out of the best Titan melee build😊

[@TheArmoredone]

I need to run that mission. I've been using the celestial hunter with combination blow and strand grapple melee. Its been quite fun!

[@tfxnitrogen8]

Titans: the melee class that's the second best at melee builds

[@andrewbianchi6914]

Hunters: the mobility class that is the least mobile of the three classes (at least it sure feels like it to me)

[@randommixedletters]

Combination Blow already gives you health on kill, you don't need blessing/ruin would serve you just a whole lot better to make the ignitions bigger and make the shatters do more damage with all the cold dodging/dusk fields/possible silence and squall if one wants frost armor.

[@roadblock99]

As soon as I saw the exotic class items and that they were giving Hunters/Warlocks Synthos, I said "that is a fkn mistake".. I dont really main any class, but with that move(and a few others no where near as impactful), might as well remove TItan, cant do anything better than either of the other classes, and even worse for Titan mains, they gave the other classes all the best Titan exotics and in return gave the Titan shit lmao.

[@amirmoneyplayz8757]

You can combo the liars and stylish, just have to set it up. It basically one shots most non boss enemies

[@tombombadil3589]

You don’t really need facet of dawn to make you radiant as the artifact has radiant on orb pick up. Facet of bravery is also optional if using void or strand weapons for volatile or unravelling rounds. Facet of protection is free DR and ruin is good for improved CC as improves shatter for frozen enemies. It also gives bigger solar ignitions for Calibans.

[@Beast-mf7br]

he has bravery in the build...but ya, i'd replace bravery, dawn and blessing (kinda useless on this imo unless you're somehow not surviving...does help teammates i suppose, if they need it)..but with frost armor/facet of protection/amplified/recuperation or better already/and invis...that should be more than enough survival lol...switch to strand super if frost ain't cutting it...i had no prob staying alive running tether with this either, even though overshield is by far the worst option, you make so many orbs that you constantly have a full overshield

[@zeroshadowzs]

Severance/ contact on titan is incredible. You can just do the first part of consecration to clear whole groups

[@funtourhawk]

Severance enclosure got a massive nerf though, it used to proc off knockout/offensive bulwark melees but I guess having a good exotic is too much for titans...SYNTHOS ONLY

[@KyzaelEomei]

I would suggest using Facet of Protection because...well you are punching so you will be surrounded. Mistakes can happen and some enemies can do a lot of damage very quickly. Any amount of DR, big or small, helps.

[@dirtyjerzelmo5421]

The build that i use has renewal and liars on the cloak. Having frost armor x5 and having insane damage at the same time is the perfect balance. With the right mods youre always healing off melee kills and grenade recharge time is pretty nutty

[@fumi7643]

"Lets have the gunslinger class do more melee damage than the punchy class because hunters are our favorite and we hate titans"

[@Foxintox]

Also a lot of people don’t know this but when enemies are frozen they take 2.3x melee damage so winter’s shroud and fuskfield REALLY complements this build well .

[@GT-Oldschool]

All this time, the real crayon eaters have been the hunters all along.

[@LandoR6S]

Got a class item roll with spirit of renewal and spirit of snythos, and lemme tell ya. Adding in free x5 frost armor on top of everything is insane

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

Run Liars build with the strand decoy instead of stylish executioner. It seriously gives so much more ad clear and and still has survivability benefits AND has an extra fragmet slot

[@danieljustin6836]

team assasins cowl + liars handshake. you can change the void aspect for strand one, get 1 more fragment slot together with infinite clones that spawn thousands of threadlings as there is no cd on their spawns.

[@zenonichan7307]

Thank you for saying it. Calibans is overrated af compared to this

[@taybloot]

@@zenonichan7307 calibans is way more OP than this though?

[@Beast-mf7br]

yeah i want that roll too, for the versatility, for when i'm sick of my caliban/liar...caliban/syntho rolls...can def have more variety with those 2 rolls over cal/liars...which is appealing

[@pch1370]

I keep hearing "Gamer's Dodge" and i'm not sure if it's deliberate or not. lol

[@superblahman]

Lol, been running this day 1 campaign since I knew it would be broken when I saw combination blow was apart of Prismatic. When I saw this when they first revealed Prismatic, I already had my build in my head.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

As a titan main. I think it's just time I swap to hunter. I don't want to but in a group what do we have to offer now aside from banner of war? Titan is the most fun class to play though. We just don't have any fun new builds. Prismatic titan currently is just kinda mid. My solution is give is a celestial for throwing hammer or axe that does a ton of damage and/or give us old heart of inmost light back on arc. Not sure how good it will be on the witness but it might keep up with warlocks at least.

[@cosmicfrank5465]

Literally me. I swapped to hunter today because its just so much better in every way. Prismatic titan is just gimmicks with no synergy

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@cosmicfrank5465 Hunters are just so good right now. I don't want to be another hunter player though... But yeah prismatic titan, for now, is just meh. But I know Bungie has something cooking that will make titans useful again.

[@funtourhawk]

I'm not swapping classes, mostly cause I barely have any exotics on the other classes and I don't feel like grinding 100 more hours just to have a usable hunter

[@cosmicfrank5465]

@@x9x9x9x9x9 aint no shame in switchin. Its all for fun anyway. Tho, when bungie sees that there is no one using prismatic titan maybe theyll rework it lol

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@cosmicfrank5465 True. The main reason holding me back is my group is 2 warlocks 2 titans and like 6 hunters.

[@vanguardbreakroom5816]

my fellow Hunter mains…We up!!

[@noahthegod2391]

Question, so say i have combo blow 3x, invis, and my melee fully charged. If i go and punch a yellow bar and it doesnt kill him, if i punch him for a second time is combo blow still in affect on this second punch

[@vexmyth0clast]

Bungie is going to nuke this combination from orbit. Might as well use it while is available.

[@willtaggart]

Can we get a video talking about the buffed supers? Silence and Squall feels so strong after its buff, as does nova bomb

[@Beast-mf7br]

that titan void super is gnarly too

[@ryanclune3883]

My mans is putting out content every 6 hours lol

[@thonorderud]

Gonna be alot of "Most overpowered insane busted game breaking build" videos if your KZbin feed has a slight algorithm towards destiny now

[@TonyDupre]

Mmm this is the power I hunger for.

[@rodgerm.6926]

i ended up getting a assasins and synto combo which allows me to use spectre and winter's shroud and it is so fun

[@beardbreeder5886]

Same. It's so good, provided team mates don't yoink the ad you're about to punch

[@bearY0]

my first cloak dropped with heart of the inmost light & liar's handshake lol thats gotta be broken for this as well

[@Deeked]

I haven't touched my titan in 2 full seasons. This season, I've made the decision to ignore him forever.

[@MeatyTundra]

hunter master race confirmed

[@luigiborza8431]

This build was not a mistake, its pure ecstacy

[@EvidentlyEezy]

You can get spirit of Renewal in the first slot which gives you free frost armor with the duskfield nade

[@tukynii]

I've been using combo blow build since the release of d2 and liars since its release and seldom taken it off unless im raiding or GM. I can finally say that this build is GM ready and I will use it the day GM comes out

[@PenguinzFTW]

Got the cloak today with Caliban and Star Eater. Caliban goes hard for ad clear💪

[@TruNemesis]

I replace Fragment Dawn with Sacrifice since artifact gives Radiant for free.

[@victorvondoom2457]

Class balance is epic

[@tridentgreen3346]

Remember when titans had normal melees and they weren’t ranged. So we could do actual melee punch builds. Kinda missing those days. Man remember when Striker was good for punching stuff in the face. Those were good memories in Y2. I punched stuff in the face. Now I have a wind up. Anyway go off hunters, you want an over shield?

[@poipoi9087]

Syntho for nevigatior grapple punch is way more damage . Just need Deadfall to trigger it on WR first boss

[@theshortstack02]

Question ehora do you know if expanding abyss helps out stylish so you'd be able to hit for actual max DMG with your melee

[@antiiks2485]

Looks like titans can't punch their way out of unemployment 😔

[@justinqueener7396]

So if you melee really quick after one two punch, you still get damage bonus from being invis?

[@tylerherdman1755]

One of the most broken things I’ve ever seen

[@walkmanstudios9733]

The first exotic class item i got had liars and calibans on it. It has been insane

[@isaacclarke2072]

As someone who rocked 1-2 punch liars build for a LONG TIME, I love how busted this is and how it feels like old liars again. Only issue is that this gameplay loop gets REALLY boring really fast. Probably just me, but this in every single activity gets really tiring.

[@Darksky951]

I dropped stylish for specter, paired with liars calibans cloak, run still hunt with celestial hotswap. does literally everything

[@brisingrsverd341]

Nothing makes me sadder then by his putting these in the same column

[@NLambo88]

The real answer is whichever one you can get to drop with calibans first

[@Fr0styFriend]

Grapple melee will work with synthoceps which for me is enough to make me choose synthos over liars

[@EkernRandy]

I think even though grapple doesnt benefit from combination blow but i think if it gets a kill it’ll still create an ignition because the grapple melee does trigger heavy handed so it is coded as a melee so spirit of the caliban should trigger on grapple melee kill.

[@ASmashedPumpkin7]

Grapple melee also benefits from Synthoceps whereas it won't with Liar's

[@kizo5513]

the grapple melee does indeed proc the ignition

[@sahinapalak1044]

Personally I would swap the blessing fragment (heal on melee kills) since combination blow already heals you when you get a kill with it

[@Yumika76]

I'm tired, we can't even own our own identity anymore.

[@sharkee9998]

This build I love, in the pale heart I’m punching enemies for 999,999 without tractor or one two punch

[@psomatik7165]

Got an exotic class item with Synthoceps + Renewal and with this build I just don't die. I like running threaded specter instead of stylish but I think trying stylish may be the way to go for high end content

[@Luteloots]

Any chance you could look into the damage output of a Caster Frame Ergo Sum with the Polaris Lance perk? The heavy attack has 10 ticks of damage if the enemy gets hit by all of the damage ticks which means every heavy attack triggers 2 ignitions. By itself this is quite strong but I believe there should be quite a few factors that can make it even better. A second person providing the Gjallarhorn effect to the sword would mean creating 3 wolfpack rounds per heavy attack that each provide additional scorch I believe. On one hand you could use ember of ashes to buff this but Prismatic should be far better if you use Transcendence for the 51% buff to Ergo Sum itself, assuming that scales with the scorch damage and ignition damage properly. Warlocks in particular can use Dawn Chorus to enhance the scorch damage significantly however. I believe it might also benefit from the buff provided by Song of Flame on top of all the scorch damage that puts out for even more frequent ignitions too, assuming there isn't some kind of internal limit on how fast you can apply scorch stacks. Considering maintaining use of the heavy attack whenever sword energy recharges you still have plenty of time to spam the Song of Flame abilities in between and potentially even some rocket shots as well, I'm not entirely sure. I have this roll and in theory I'm going to try testing it myself but I have far less experience doing damage testing and such compared to you or anyone else that does such tests.

[@ActuallyMichael]

What's the best way to get the ikelos shotgun? It's a good expansion to be a hunter main

[@MissiAnn624]

This season you dont need the Dawn fragment, radiant orbs artifact mod allows you to be radiant near permanently

[@christiansousa5507]

Is there a bonus melee damage to frozen targets that could also be used?

[@y0shii154]

Yes

[@Beast-mf7br]

freeze a boss with 2 dodges (assuming ads are near) then go in for the combo blow x3 chunk!...be invis first, don't 1-2 punch on the first melee (if that's what you're using) or you lose like 160% of your melee dmg from stylish...and if you get lucky and the stars align you can go for the punch with counter-punch already loaded and watch his health bar disappear (or a huge golden gun sized chunk at least!)

[@Divinitybagon]

Personally prefer synthos because it makes the early kills much easier which is my main complaint about combination blow hunter. Liar's is definitely the pick for one-two punch DPS though. Real answer is just use whichever you get with a good combination first.

[@neonace3885]

Oh hey, I’m not the only one who came up with idea, that’s cool.

[@JackWest-sp1zc]

I love your builds and videos Ehroar. And I understand your frustration of 1 class having the best builds for any situation. And making the game even easier than it already is. And yes power creep is a huge issue. But most people don’t have the compulsion to play on the most efficient build in the game for all things at all times. This sorta build is strong. But gets old so fast.

[@yeetus-8383]

The benefit of syntho though, is it works with grapple melee

[@takensteak4485]

I have been running this build with licky pants malph, the melee damage is already so high that adding a melee exotic is sometimes Overkill, lucky pants gives me insane midrange damage too incase i cant get the melee chain going

[@bbagginsmcswaggins]

"you have to use strand, void or stasis to make this work with the artifact mod." (in reference to the fragment for orb pickup + shieldcrush) No. Just use renewals + your damage exotic perk of choice. Set down the Calibans, hunters, it's literally unnecessary. Part of the punch-hunter loop is repeatedly dodge-meleeing in order to generate both orbs and super energy; Calibans ignitions steal a lot of the ability to do that. That's also reducing your ability to build Dark transcendence while punching by using the fragment that gives you Dark energy while you have a Light buff. Again, more dodge-punches is BETTER than getting the ignitions. Then using renewals + duskfield is giving you frost armor to proc Shieldcrush, and you can run golden gun to have restoration on orb pickup.

[@bangerrr569]

I’ve been saying this since the beginning that synthos weren’t gonna be as good as liars, good to know my judgment was right. I’ve also been using strand super and duskfields too since launch. I think having liars + assassins cowl with threaded specter instead of stylish will be really a nice combo, and also liars + renewal for ultra DR and keeping stylish. Synthos will be cool for grapple melee shenanigans on hunter tho.

[@particularjustice3911]

Damn I would be ok with this but Bungie did nerf the enchanted melee being able to proc stuff like the "Knockout" punches so we can't even proc. Severance or Point Cannon Brace and stuff like that without a full melee charge

[@a.bishop615]

I’ve been a Titan main (and haven’t even really played other characters) for nearly a decade and I’m very very close to changing to hunter. Everything Titan can do, hunter just does it better.

[@acosmicmistake9240]

I’m personally going for spirit of the assassin plus either of these ideally liars so I can get the stylish executioner bonus on literally every kill

[@christhiantrevisan8084]

These dodge melee aure are busted, but damm after so many years using them I just cant anymore

[@BearBurgers]

Another OP Melee build for Hunters? Bungie: Time to Nerf Titan's and their interactions with perks and weapons.

[@kevinjames7267]

Bungie def favors hunters

[@fasdqwe8860]

It’s crazy cuz warlocks have had ther identities stolen when the 3.0 subclasses came out , now it seems the titans are getting the same treatment lol

[@rjchmelyk2850]

what about saints fist. 1-2 punch makes the multiplier of lires go down but saints is the same buff as 1-2 punch, so could it make it higher?