THIS CARD IS BUSTED IN STOMPY! Broadside Bombardiers Moon Stompy (Legacy Red Prison MTG)

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@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 11 ай бұрын
Giving a group of goblins a cannon has historically always turned out to be a good time.
@Ulubai
@Ulubai 11 ай бұрын
Goblins? Cannons? Mountains? I'm all in baby!
@securatyyy
@securatyyy 11 ай бұрын
Facts
@joshdoughty5211
@joshdoughty5211 11 ай бұрын
In round three opponent couldn’t have bounced the Dryad Arbor because it’s no longer a forest because of blood moon
@dipian
@dipian 11 ай бұрын
You beat me to it.
@TheDartrunner
@TheDartrunner 11 ай бұрын
Good ol' Land Creature - Mountain Dryad that's green and taps for a red.
@fosterdawson7339
@fosterdawson7339 11 ай бұрын
Hey Phil! Small thing in round 3 that probably improves your opinion of Bombardiers even more… if you attack with it first and then play fury in your second Main phase, you can sacrifice it for 7 damage in response to the evoke trigger 🤩🤩🤩
@olafthemoose9413
@olafthemoose9413 11 ай бұрын
He did mention that playpattern but it really dows power the card up by a lot.
@covanentsbane
@covanentsbane 11 ай бұрын
It's incredible how Wizards trying to answer commander player's complaints about red and white needing more tools has radically improved aggro plans in legacy Great video, great card. I'm really impressed with how like, subtly good it is.
@Playingwithproxies
@Playingwithproxies 11 ай бұрын
You mean making damage based strategies good in 4 player 40 life formats broke it in regular games? That’s completely predictable not so incredible
@demiurge2501
@demiurge2501 11 ай бұрын
@@Playingwithproxiesany tool nonblue decks get is a tool I’m here for
@sohpeeah3131
@sohpeeah3131 11 ай бұрын
the recent string of insane cards from commander sets makes me think wizards should put at least a few legacy play testers on their commander design teams (ik they don’t care and won’t but still). initiative, staff of the story teller (bow mastered out of the meta but still), creative technique and now this guy all feel like cards that were never even considered with 1v1 play as an option
@laurelkeeper
@laurelkeeper 11 ай бұрын
I actually don’t mind it-sans initiative, I found those inclusions welcome shakeups to the format.
@TalenLee
@TalenLee 11 ай бұрын
their policy for legacy is that it's just too challenging to balance, and they'd rather just handle it with bans.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I think this card is very strong, but acceptable by Legacy standards.
@duartelopes5223
@duartelopes5223 11 ай бұрын
31:30 had the comic timing of one of your intros, absolutely perfect. This whole league so far is *chef's kiss*
@crucible_of_words
@crucible_of_words 11 ай бұрын
Bombardiers goes along with Fable to just give these monored lists a lot more consistency by filtering out dead draws in one way or another.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 11 ай бұрын
Legendary goblins always synergize
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 11 ай бұрын
Fable copy Fury, swing, throw Fury copy is so busted
@Locustnism
@Locustnism 11 ай бұрын
For those waiting to build this deck, wait for modern ban of fury on Monday
@SindarinElealar
@SindarinElealar 11 ай бұрын
@28:38 I don't think the opponent COULD bounce the Dryad Arbor since it's not a Forest courtesy of Blood Moon and Quirion Ranger only bounces Forests.
@tony.v
@tony.v 11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this guy showed up from one of your opponents from your mono-red Sneak Attack video. There's so many releases coming out I didn't even know this guy was a thing until that video, and I snap ordered a playset.
@jaybelliveau4330
@jaybelliveau4330 11 ай бұрын
"Do the children even know what Plaguewind is anymore?" Lol that hurt my millennial bones.
@daneofdanger
@daneofdanger 11 ай бұрын
"You there, boy on the street! What year is it?" --Plague Wind, an Ancient Old Man
@portalmasterlp453
@portalmasterlp453 11 ай бұрын
Finally, a good use for birgis static ability everybody forgets about
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 11 ай бұрын
23:55 "Opponent finds Bayou" Opponent finds Mountain*
@Gunrogk
@Gunrogk 11 ай бұрын
Blood Moon stoped the Dryad abor bounce.
@radiomars3354
@radiomars3354 11 ай бұрын
Looks like a whole Lotta fun to me! Definitely going to test this one!
@85mcarnold
@85mcarnold 11 ай бұрын
Step 1: Find your cousin. Step 2: Get your cousin in the cannon. Step 3: Find another cousin.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 11 ай бұрын
I loved the old Goblin Cannoner art flavored text back then was so fun
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 11 ай бұрын
​@Zauzzie wasn't that Fodder Cannon?
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 11 ай бұрын
Why not Great Furnace? Turn a land into a Shock. We're already susceptible to Wasteland (and Sol Lands are probably better targets anyway). There is no issue with running one under Bloodmoon. And we will still have some mountains to fetch.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 11 ай бұрын
Only main downside is that alot of decks like to run meltdown as a sidebaord card to answer 8 cast and may board them in to answer trinisphere. Those lands get caught up in that. But aside from that its certainly intresting brew space and pribably better than some of the alternatibe lands
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 11 ай бұрын
@llamarama6976 Hmm. That's a good point. I'm used to Stompy decks nowadays not running too many maindeck lock pieces. I suppose that will change now that Bombardiers can chuck them at face.
@llamarama6976
@llamarama6976 11 ай бұрын
@@derekcline950 specifically opponents like delver like running meltdown so it can be a bit sketchy if they caught uo in that or a reanimators serenity. But i think they have no less of a price than the channel land does. Then again the channel land spirits can be use as ammunition for bonbadiers. Bombadiers is one hell of a creature
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
It's not crazy, but it's not a "strictly better" situation since Wasteland, Meltdown, and friends are a part of the format.
@Lykrast
@Lykrast 11 ай бұрын
I love it when random cards from the commander sets see play in legacy.
@fel_95
@fel_95 11 ай бұрын
28:25 they couldn't bounce Dryad because it's a Mountain, not a forest!
@ahegao4915
@ahegao4915 11 ай бұрын
Wonder if Bombardiers can see any play in Affinity. Flinging Myr Enforcers, Sojourner's Companions, or Thought Monitor for 9 damage seems pretty spicy!
@LibertyMonk
@LibertyMonk 11 ай бұрын
That does seem real spicy.
@noahshanning7014
@noahshanning7014 11 ай бұрын
I want to try it in 8 cast because emry can buy back the monitor every turn for 8 damage. While drawing 2 cards a turn extra
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking affinity when I read CMC was the relevant part.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
It does seem sweet!
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 11 ай бұрын
Hmm 1 mana draw 2 deal 8 damage does seem quite good. Almost worth making 8 cast worse to include it :p (Can also sac arti lands to do a shock in a pinch too)
@Psyman2
@Psyman2 11 ай бұрын
5:05 Bully Phil is my favorite Phil :3
@828dub
@828dub 11 ай бұрын
Chalice on 1 -----> concede!
@pokeyclawz8727
@pokeyclawz8727 11 ай бұрын
Watching a deck completely dismantle delver is always a treat
@chillaxbro107
@chillaxbro107 11 ай бұрын
I’m sad we didn’t get to see it in this league, but post combat evoke a fury, deal 4 to creatures, throw fury with bombardiers for another 7 is hot
@rebelresource
@rebelresource 11 ай бұрын
Dryad Arbor Cannot be bounced since it is a mountain not a forest anymore, correct?
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 11 ай бұрын
Just wait til you get to try it in Goblin. Goblin matron into this for a goblin grenade is fire.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
Come back in like 3 hours!
@sy-py
@sy-py 11 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity I am back!
@craigrgriffin
@craigrgriffin 11 ай бұрын
Mono red. This is the content I'm here for
@robertherlihy917
@robertherlihy917 11 ай бұрын
You know what would really broadside people? Chucking a thought monitor at their face :D. U/R thoughtcast plz
@wouterdegraef4342
@wouterdegraef4342 11 ай бұрын
Broadside Bombadiers in affinity? yeeting 7 drops also seems fun
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 11 ай бұрын
^Hire this man!
@DaAvengerMenace4
@DaAvengerMenace4 11 ай бұрын
What do you think of adding [Great Furnace] as a support for the Bombardiers?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
It's not crazy, but this is a Wasteland format.
@nooneatall5612
@nooneatall5612 11 ай бұрын
This being able to fling an evoked Furry seems dirty
@MemoryLaneWizard
@MemoryLaneWizard 11 ай бұрын
you know it is powerful when it commands a USD50 price tag in Japan
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
It earned that price tag!
@afrank009
@afrank009 10 ай бұрын
Is the emrakul in the side for show and tell? Mill (via brain freeze)? Both? I'm trying to figure out why it's there
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 10 ай бұрын
Painter's Servant / Grindstone combo is the primary one!
@afrank009
@afrank009 10 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity ah of course!!!!
@cammcgra
@cammcgra 11 ай бұрын
Is it worth boarding in Emrakul for Round 1 Game 3 against Reanimator, after seeing Show and Tell? Cutting a Fury probably if you went thst route
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 10 ай бұрын
It's a fine thing to do, but it's a dead card in every scenario except when Show and Tell resolves.
@cammcgra
@cammcgra 10 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity thanks for the reply. Turns out you had the win anyway, and it didn't matter at all
@elijahbuck6499
@elijahbuck6499 11 ай бұрын
I thought that dryad arbor is a mountain and not a forest when blood moon is in play?
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, you're right. I think he forgot blood moon was in play because they were still casting spells 😂
@thatotherquid3622
@thatotherquid3622 10 ай бұрын
28:33 Its because Dryad Arbor was a Mountain at the time, not a forest
@jeremiahgoertz4182
@jeremiahgoertz4182 11 ай бұрын
As a U/W control player, I am not thrilled that this card exists
@Reversespacehippie
@Reversespacehippie 11 ай бұрын
Obligatory algorithmic contribution
@jtsoltys7527
@jtsoltys7527 11 ай бұрын
After playing with bombardiers, does it change your evaluation of red white vs mono red for eternal weekend?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
The RW lists are more polished and tested right now. It's the better deck to pick up and play. It's possible that a Bombardiers list *could* be better than RW, but it's so early that the lists aren't tuned. I'd still put my money on RW unless you have a ton of time to test Broadside versions.
@chaselewis6534
@chaselewis6534 11 ай бұрын
you did throw a fury once but it was overkill :)
@xstar001
@xstar001 11 ай бұрын
Dryad arbor with blood moon in play cannot be bounced by quirion rangers. It's no longer a forest.
@brandonacevedo5468
@brandonacevedo5468 11 ай бұрын
Hey would you happen to be going to the chicago magic con?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I'll be there as a sponsored creator!
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 11 ай бұрын
Where would you tier this deck?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
This build of the deck is new enough that we don't really have data on it, but my guess is either a tier 1 strategy or slightly outside that.
@zackpumpkinhead8882
@zackpumpkinhead8882 10 ай бұрын
Imagine a Rakdos list that plays Magus and Depths and then flashbacks Cabal Therapy PHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 10 ай бұрын
I've tried similar things, and it felt janky...even by my standards.
@ChichimonLeagues
@ChichimonLeagues 11 ай бұрын
Copying broadside and then attacking with both and sacing them to each other is so funny flavorwise. 2 goblins hopping into each others cannons, fuses lit
@joshuading764
@joshuading764 11 ай бұрын
odds of missing 4 leylines in 5 openers: ~7.8%. rare, but a lot less rare than i expected tbh
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 11 ай бұрын
Ok, real talk. This card is insane. The amount of shenanigans you can do is not even funny. You could even splash it if your deck can afford a single R. Thank Keranos is just once each turn. It's not so broken it should be banned(at least not in Legacy), let's be real, but it can singlehandedly win you games you have no place winning. That's scary
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
This card is balanced well for Legacy, but boy is it strong!
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin 11 ай бұрын
Broadside plus Fable feels disgusting. That's just extra damage that you can point anywhere for free every turn
@HooooodyNiNoYT
@HooooodyNiNoYT 10 ай бұрын
What MU are the null rod for?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 10 ай бұрын
8 Cast is the big one, but you get splash damage in lots of places like Beseech Storm.
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 11 ай бұрын
You could run a singleton Dark Depths in this shell and activate it by throwing your Magus or Blood Moon ... thats neat
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
Broadside lets you sacrifice a creature or artifact only.
@Red_Mag3
@Red_Mag3 11 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity ah okay not the blood moon then, only the magus
@alexanderzharkov7653
@alexanderzharkov7653 11 ай бұрын
Can you make scion of draco deck version?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
If you want to see it happen: www.thrabenuniversity.com/donationdecklists/
@zacharyahearn4069
@zacharyahearn4069 11 ай бұрын
Does broadside work with evoke elementals
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
Yup!
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 11 ай бұрын
Can we get a version of this where you're going to 2nd main and flinging a Dreadnaught at an opponent in response to its etb? I personally think it would be funny.
@Syaska
@Syaska 11 ай бұрын
You're throwing it for 3, not 14 though
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
You probably want things like Thought-Monitor to do what you're thinking of here.
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 11 ай бұрын
Ah, fair. I misread the card.
@howamewsing7311
@howamewsing7311 11 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity wait, how about a Metalwork Colossus then? It'll be a lot of damage for a small amount of mana, typically, and it recurs itself.
@joshuarojas9282
@joshuarojas9282 6 ай бұрын
Can you run this list back?
@josephmathes
@josephmathes 11 ай бұрын
Wait what? When did stompy stop meaning mono green aggro?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
Uhhh maybe a decade ago XD
@henrypayne5879
@henrypayne5879 11 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the video I thought, "Yeah, this card seems pretty strong" and after the video, "This is one of the best 3 drops ever"
@MrNord-so3yp
@MrNord-so3yp 11 ай бұрын
This card seems hilarious with cost reduced artifacts like thought monitor, turn your 2 or 3 mana draw 2 into 9 damage?!?!
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 11 ай бұрын
I've done the maths, albeit maybe not well. It looks like you were about 96.6% to draw a leyline on 5 mulligans. But I have a suspicion that my maths is off. I got it as a coinflip on any draw 7
@captaintaco2845
@captaintaco2845 11 ай бұрын
you accidentally did the math for 7 mulligans it’s about 91% for 5 mulligans down to 3
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 11 ай бұрын
@@captaintaco2845 I don't think I did. I did (1-(4/60+4/59..4/54))⁵. Work out probability for one of them to be in your opening hand. 1-P would be the probability it's not in your hand, and then multiply by itself 5 times for the 5 hands he drew. Just to explain my working
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 11 ай бұрын
I wanna see it in Izzet 8 cast. Fling a thought monitor for 9 damage after drawing 2 cards o.o
@grnman86
@grnman86 11 ай бұрын
Bruh I started in nemesis. Plague wind was one of my favorite cards besides phyrexian scuta and blazing specter.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I love the specters!
@considerthehumbleworm
@considerthehumbleworm 11 ай бұрын
The children, in fact, do not know what plaguewind is. It has the word regenerate on it so you shouldn’t be so surprised.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
haha, good point!
@RokstarGene
@RokstarGene 11 ай бұрын
Throw Scion of Draco
@IzidioAlex
@IzidioAlex 11 ай бұрын
How hard is it to get these little guys to fling a Frogmite?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
Why stop at Frogmite?
@IzidioAlex
@IzidioAlex 11 ай бұрын
@@ThrabenUniversity that's why I love you
@FlakManiak
@FlakManiak 10 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to downplay Broadside Bombardiers at all, but... What I saw in this video was Chalices and Trinispheres and Blood Moons completely stopping opponents from playing! Every time I watch these red prison decks, I waver in my conviction that I would be a greedy Beanstalk control player... How can I NOT just play Blood Moon?
@nicomillhouse
@nicomillhouse 11 ай бұрын
Bomby Stompy
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 11 ай бұрын
Attractions are artifacts, right? Asking for . . . well, me.
@dkv_
@dkv_ 11 ай бұрын
40 min league nice
@Totescolin
@Totescolin 10 ай бұрын
G1R1 wild match!
@LemorasCards
@LemorasCards 11 ай бұрын
ummm ackshually Underworld Breach is the best card printed in Lost Caverns of Ixalan 🤓
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
😂
@TheQueerLeaf
@TheQueerLeaf 11 ай бұрын
Nice
@alexmaragh7766
@alexmaragh7766 11 ай бұрын
It feels like the only good aggro cards come from commander products now
@siosilvar
@siosilvar 11 ай бұрын
aggro cards need to be *insane* to be any good in a 4 player format so yeah that makes sense
@laurelkeeper
@laurelkeeper 11 ай бұрын
Any aggro card that would be good in Legacy would be broken in any other format it got printed into. So yeah.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I mean...
@DrackeMaehara
@DrackeMaehara 11 ай бұрын
Please do a painter version :3
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I don't have Painter in the queue right now, but if you want to change that... www.thrabenuniversity.com/donationdecklists/
@considerthehumbleworm
@considerthehumbleworm 11 ай бұрын
think this is an artifact land kinda deck? blood moon isn’t relevant so wasteland is the only concern really
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
That's not crazy, but it's not like it's strict upside since this is a Wasteland format.
@kiwivogel
@kiwivogel 11 ай бұрын
Plague Wind Imba. Plz nerf
@ajax4709
@ajax4709 11 ай бұрын
I think when you are on 3 already against a 7, you go to 1 if needed to find leyline. It doesnt get much better for you
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
The issue with that is that a Leyline with no lands or follow up threat has no real chance of winning. A lock piece without pressure isn't a recipe for success.
@titos2x
@titos2x 11 ай бұрын
Plague wind was never a good card....
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 11 ай бұрын
I mean, I remember getting blown out by it in the uhhh idk 2010-ish era of EDH.
@titos2x
@titos2x 11 ай бұрын
Thats very specific
@joshdavis3743
@joshdavis3743 11 ай бұрын
First!
@ubertuna1
@ubertuna1 11 ай бұрын
Turn 2 Scion of Draco into turn 3 Bombardier, dealing 6 in combat and another 14 from boast. Seems pretty hot :)
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