This Central Station Caused more Problems than it Solved... | Cities Skylines | Sunset City 17

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Sunset City is a series based on the US state of Florida. Not just taking inspiration from the most iconic tourist destinations or glamorous beaches, Sunset City will focus on capturing the entire state from North to South. We will cover such cities as Miami, Tampa and Orlando, as well as some towns in between. Most importantly Florida's natural landscaping spanning from the tropical beaches to the vast wetlands of the Everglades.
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[@SHID_MAFIA]

Dysfunctional station in an American city is honestly more accurate then if it actually worked

[@SHID_MAFIA]

Recently traveled to Tokyo for vacation. Trains are so safe and clean, was so much better than Chicago where there is always the threat of some guy pulling his d*ck out.

[@mauriceskyliners9873]

I agree !

[@marinlorre5207]

Dysfunctional station anywhere in the world is quite accurate actually

[@gamerswag1233]

Not just America. Not quite sure why you led straight there but whatever floats your boat I guess.🤷‍♂️

[@Arkiasis]

@@marinlorre5207 No, the US has horrendous passenger rail, it's below third world levels of quality and service. Houston's main and only passenger train station looks like it belongs in a British town of 500 people. I'm not exaggerating.

[@Hi-vc3xv]

3 tips for your station: - you can use PO on the ploppable asphalt to scale them, and to change the vertices (to add angles) - There are multiple 'invisible train station' mods on the workshop, which function as a station but is just an empty track - You can also place a station right at the map border, connect it up with walking paths and create a route between your CS and the map border station. people will spawn at the map border station, and walk to a train. They actually use the trains!

[@olli8977]

Border station is great. Solve also train problems becose you have control how many train you have in track

[@nicolasblume1046]

You don't need to build a station at the border, they already exist there by default! They are just invisible. With the 81 tiles mod or the cross the line mod you can use these stations

[@georgeowen2553]

What is meant is that the cims spawn on the 'outside' station, but they need to travel to an 'inside' station plopped by the player that accepts outside connections. Then they can get on a scheduled train to the inner city train station.

[@flyingskier1913]

if you draw a line between the custom station and the station track at the map entrance, cims should be able to use it as a normal line

[@interstellarshadow5571]

If you just set a line from the station track that goes through the border, it acts as if it were an outside connection train, even though you manage it. Tourists and people moving to the city will use that line to travel in.

[@arjanvanelmpt4822]

Story for the reason behind the station being like this: The old station was placed at the end of the track. But because the city grew a new station building was build, but the old one needed to stay in operation before the new one was done. And this was the only location connected to the station/platforms to build a new station building. To get a link between old and new, maybe put an outer wall of the old station at the end of the platform, it being left behind as reminder of the past and as a bordes to the old plot of land, that is now used for new developmant. (excuse my english, as it is not my native language)

[@LmcnNZL]

Hands down the most lore I've ever seen in cities skylines. Love it

[@schmitty8225]

Miami actually had street cars back in the 20's up to the 40's. When they originally proposed the metrorail it was supposed to go all the way up to Opa Locka and down to Florida City. They also had plans for exclusive bus highways and several bus lanes. There is a pretty cool podcast I listen to that talks about Miami history. Its called "this day in miami" and the episode is called May 20, 1984: Metrorail runs for the first time

[@twodollarstwenty]

Wow I didn’t know that! Thanks for the info I might check it out

[@spenceranderson2072]

That train at 17:54 is Amtrak too, from their “rainbow era.” It’s basically the period before they repainted all the old cars into one, uniform scheme.

[@sanderdyvekaer4172]

Would love to see a car meet, with sport/muscle cars etc. kinda like in "2 fast 2 furious" car meet scenes, or a scenario like in the police chase scene, or just a meet of street racers in Miami! Would love the vice city vibe!

[@shlubbers1778]

2$, I actually really like the poor design and function of your station. I think it gives it character.

[@mauriceskyliners9873]

Especially since the American rail network is quite poor

[@Yoghurtmale8]

This is the coolest Cities Skylines stations I’ve seen! One thing that train stations in the Southeast US sometimes have is an intercity bus station. These are pretty common ways of getting around and the bus stations are usually connected to the train station. Keep up the great work. 👍👍

[@asianjesu5617]

This is probably the 6th or so custom station I've seen you build, they may be a pain to do but they always look worth the effort and much better than ploppable ones, good job P.s. the poor design with how Sims access the platforms is pretty realistic even here in Australia, Mandurah station in WA has almost the same problem, trains usually arrive on the eastern platform and there's only one exit on the western side so it turns a 10m walk into a 100m one

[@MitchellOrd]

It's so minor but so annoying, nearly made me board the wrong train once lol

[@mewosh_]

To make your station accept outside traffic you need to place another station building close to the outside connection and drag a line from it to your station. tip: you can drag the outside connection closer to where you want it to be with move it

[@mxdanger]

You don't need to place a border station. 81 tiles already has an invisible one there by default and you can just draw a train line to the edge of the map.

[@drdewott9154]

Dysfunctional station my beloved. You can make a custom train line that goes to the spawning point of a map btw and that can therefore actually act as an Intercity train and pickup outside connections. So you can do that. Also idk if a commuter rail line to the keys is still on the table but if it is, it would make sense to maybe have it go on a bypass line around the city to get to the central station, or just have it use a very scruffy halt elsewhere in downtown. Many big cities have multiple stations after all and commuter trains usually get the worse end of it. Even Miami currently has 3 different train stations. One for Brightline, one for Amtrak, and one for the commuter train Tri-Rail. I know some Budd railcars were recently uploaded to the workshop and those would be a perfect fit for a commuter service alongside maybe some of Astros old Gallery car trains.

[@harrywilson2107]

I like how the station and the area turned out, love the Spanish / European influence and the building surrounding it. I think some kind of law enforcement build would be cool in the same style near the train station

[@devvydoesstuff]

if this city takes place after 1989 then it might make more sense to use bsquicklehausens F40PH and Bilevel coaches because Tri-Rail (a commuter railroad in miami) started operations in 1989 Also Amtrak had retired equipment like that by the 1980s

[@jacobkonkel6793]

I love how you stick with the project no matter how many variations you had to go through. Excellent tenacity.

[@RWDebara]

Honestly if the old train station was still around it’ll be an afterthought in 80’s Miami, so the design fits very well. Also the clocktower is great and very old Miami. I work in the old historic Miami Beach City Hall on Washington Ave which shares a lot of features.

[@elijahfilmsinc.3180]

As an American Railroad enthusiast, I love the fact that the Amtrak station is so dysfunctional. It’s really on-point with Amtrak of that era. However the train you’re using with the single blue locomotive at the front isn’t period correct. Those locomotives weren’t put into service until the 90s and weren’t in that paint scheme until the mid 2000s. Honestly try replacing it with a train led by an F40PH. That would be on point for the 1980’s!

[@jerryjohnson21]

Hey two dollars, Love the series, I live in Tampa and work in Miami (I work remotely). But the concrete ties on the railroad are only new the last few years since Brightline started offering high speed service, so if it's the 80s your current railroad network is fine.

[@twodollarstwenty]

Ahh I see. Maybe I could do an old line somewhere. Maybe fit the industry?

[@chandlermerz2284]

Tip for the station: we also build tunnels under the stations here in the us. Maybe it is an easier fix.

[@overly7997]

Established in 1885, the Sunshine Coast Railway was originally built to service hotels along the eastern Atlantic coast of the state. It starts all the way from the northern-most part of the state and snakes along the eastern coast all the way to Sunset City. It carried passengers and freight along the route until it obtained a charter to build track all the way to Sunset City in 1896. With many hotels and companies setting foot in the city, and with the geography south being more swampy, thus difficult to build tracks on, the decision was made to make Sunset City the terminal station for the Railway. The Sunshine Coast Railway however would not be the only railway in town looking to make a stake, the Seaside-Bank Railroad reached Sunset City in 1910, and decided they were going to continue past the city into the Key Islands. their operations were successful, bringing holiday-makers to the small island resorts sprinkled outside of the city. However in 1942 a massive Hurricane destroyed the bridges connecting the mainland to the keys, most of the islands were forever scared. The Seaside-Bank railroad, at the whim of the I.C.C. (Interstate Commerce Commission) during the second world war, were not allowed to spend money on building or re-building tracks and infrastructure, with most effort being put towards the war effort. Following the end of WW2, with road transport and highways taking off in popularity, the interest for rebuilding the rail line was never taken seriously by the state's government again. decades later, in the late 60's - early 70's, when passenger rail and infrastructure was at it's absolute worst, the Seaside-Bank Railroad would merge with its rival, the Sunshine Coast Railway, in order for it to survive. With Miami not being an industry-focused town, and what little industry it had was served by trucking, the main Terminal in its downtown region would begin crumble and need serious repairs if it was going to stay up. Luckily, before the station was proposed to be torn down and replaced with a sports stadium, President Robert F. Kennedy signed the "Nationalized Passenger Rail Act of 1973". This act would give railroads the opportunity to relinquish their passenger services to the Federal Government's new agency "CityLink". Starting that same year, CityLink would take over the Sunshine Coast's passenger operations, and began restoration of Sunset City's beautiful downtown terminal. Today the station sees multiple intercity commuter trains, and 3 long distance trains, most notably the "Shooting Star" and "Silver Dollar" trains from Sunset City to Gramercy. It has become a landmark of the city, and a classical sight to behold.

[@Mikeyender]

Thank you for this video! Always a good day when you release a new video. Keep it up

[@2163mechows]

Hmm I would like the idea of the station being build during the Spanish colony to transport sugar from the farms in the outskirts to the center of the city. And maybe it was made that big and inconvenient as a way to keep control over their workers. And about the name that should be " La estación de los penitentes" or Los penitentes station.

[@overly7997]

to early in time for railroads and stations to be built

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

Far too early for railroads; That being said, it could have been a horse carriage station back in the day before the birth of the iron horse.

[@grimwillj1030]

i love the honesty and flaws you bring to your builds. always turn out looking fantastic but the truthfully imperfect process you share is so refreshing

[@Nerdchacho]

That ending was the perfect sting in the tail!! "Yeah, so.. I did all of this.. and... it can't be used properly. oh well. Looks good.. so..." LOVE IT!

[@SaltyPO]

Sunset City needs to have its own playlist on your channel. Organize!

[@twodollarstwenty]

There is one!

[@SaltyPO]

@@twodollarstwenty under playlists? What's it called I don't see sunset city in the list

[@twodollarstwenty]

Apologies it’s been unlisted this whole time. Should be there now

[@alogsdino5311]

YO I didn’t expect my comment to make the video! happy to have helped potentially expand the Fab Soda lore 🤙 2$, you’re an inspiration man!

[@mausebiker123]

A lot of city skyline content creators are on little breaks, I miss them! Thank you for this video

[@ByeByeBayou...]

In spite of the rail being pointless for now, it was still an interesting episode haha If you lower the rails bellow grade, you could have crossings above that platforms that will look relatively normal. Also, it will provide the opportunity to lower the rail bellow the avenue next to it. A bellow grade line will also help extend the rail to the other side of downtown without causing too many traffic issues and add to the layering effect you were talking about

[@chandlermerz2284]

One thing I think you are missing is the overt wealth in Miami, where is the crazy night life, super expensive country club/ beach club. Obviously this series is no where close to finishing, but it is something that would build a sub story line.

[@twodollarstwenty]

I’m saving that for Sunset beach!

[@comenting3207]

A lil tip so the rail lines aren't that empty add a single historical train to santa julia until you build a second station

[@akhilnelapudi2608]

So I think many people know that you can setup a station near the boundary of the map and draw a line from there to your city and people will spawn and use that line. But I recently found you don't even need the station. The tracks at the end of map work like station tracks, so you can directly draw a line from the end of the map track to your station directly without needing an actual station at the end of the map.

[@AgentChaddus]

Unrelated to Sunset City... I've been re-watching Sichuan Province recently. Something I always come back to when playing Cities Skylines. That's such a cool series and it's unfortunate you decided to not continue it, but I get it. I've tried to use those CSUR roads and it is a struggle. However, I think a new Sichuan Province is more than doable now with the advances in mods where regular roads can be used. Just my two cents :) Love the videos, keep it up!!

[@marcoslays]

not me thinking about when you were releasing a new video yesterday night! love sunset city 😂

[@jzeltman]

Amazing detail on the station. It’s so frustrating and time consuming to build custom stations, but also super satisfying when they’re done. This one turned out very well :) One thing I’ve recently started to do is make a park and ride station at the edge of the map. That way I can still keep external traffic on separate lines, but also have people coming in from outside connections.

[@fufihs]

You could put a crime scene in a building and some ganster in suits around the area. This will be a reference to Hotline Miami, a game where the protagonist kills russian gansters based in Miami in the year 1989; something that suits perfectly Sunset City. Sorry for my bad English ;)

[@oddity8645]

Hey twodollars i would suggest rather than dumping ur traffic onto a traffic controlled intersection in downtown add a interchange connecting the two highways coming north and make the connection onto the light controlled intersection have a slower speed 2:05

[@user-ex5ws4cj7o]

The way that railway ends is really strange (usually rails end in the depot), but station itself is pretty

[@Rodrigo-mi1uw]

I am Spanish and this station reminded me of the ones we have here, specially on the Mediterranean Coast. I think the fact that it is not fully efficient is realistic, I mean, infrastructures IRL aren't fully mathematically efficient neither. Maybe you could think of a story involving some kind of construction or political corruption where the funds for building the station went elsewhere and the station was built fast and with low budget because of that. Idk, good episode howeverr!!!!

[@astrosaturn3577]

Its 6am in amreica (central time) and i just woke up. Your videos help me wake up in the morning. Really like the videos keep up the good work! edit: thank you for the heart! but where did it go its not there anymore.

[@twodollarstwenty]

There you go it’s back! I dunno why it disappeared 😊

[@astrosaturn3577]

@@twodollarstwenty thanks man your the best

[@s25268847]

The custom station looks awesome !!!

[@lucaaaaaaaas]

Train station lookin lovely ! Also that corner w the clock tower is so beautiful

[@twodollarstwenty]

It really is! Thank you!

[@moshecohen127]

I hear the pain in your voice. But, that kind of gives me an idea about the station. Basically, most terminal station would have the platforms set up exactly the same way as yours are, but the station house would be at the end rather than on the side. So maybe when city officials started building the station there was a recession and couldn't afford to build a station house. But, the medical rehabilitation center right next to the station went bankrupt and so the city bought the forsclosed property, maybe with some kind of sketchy FAB! soda connection, in order to save the project.

[@bigmart932]

If you wanted to, you could put a fence between the walking area and the platform to make it look like they actually need to walk all that distance, maybe it's a measure to avoid fare evasion.

[@TrueWolfPvpMC]

Something to know: the “Miami central” referenced in this video is owned and operated and used by Brightline, a private high speed rail service for the southern Florida region. That is why the station is so new and there are concrete ties. Amtrak does not stop here or use this rail line but rather a couple miles west in hileah.

[@daniell2634]

Lore wise, there were probably pedestrian over or underpasses to the platforms, that station started being built, and funding got diverted and they had to make do with this much cheaper fix.

[@Strider647]

You should add a moder style waiting area/restaurant/shop on the other side, if would fit into the theme of the older station being a historical site.

[@jennymunday7913]

Wait! you can make this station work! The train tracks going off the edge of the map are a station so you can actually create a line going from the edge to the station and back again!

[@SnowMaor]

U make greate video's

[@Luci_4k]

I was building a Train Satiok today when i noticed i could make a line from my station to an outside connection, it worked perfectly considering i wanted to only use long distance trains on that route!

[@roddo1955]

As a proud Sunnybeacher I say; leave our trainstation alone.! It has character!Ever since these burger franchises and soda brands started taking over, our little town... they took everything that made us 'Sunny!'. Its all skyscrapers and concrete. I remember fishing for crayfish down the mangroves when I was a kid. These days the fish glow in the dark with radioactivity and the gators are hyper active. What are they dumping in those swamps?! I don't do immersion; I AM immersion.

[@kinnairdpaul9531]

loving ur work ur stuff has help my city git bigger and more scenic

[@niche_creation]

I think having a metro and monorail hub built on the otherside of the station as a modern extension with possibly a pedestrian bridge which links all stations together. This way you can show the progress made to the original station while tying it with modern development

[@anacondabsc]

There might be a way to add in outside connections into your train station... You have to disable the outside fog first. And then you have to create a line from the outside connection into your train station. The rail at the edge of the map actually functions like a station for people to board.

[@jamie514]

so what you can do is plop down a 4-track workshop station a few tiles in from the map edge where the outside trains come in, and let it be a transfer station. Link your local network there and create the transit line to this central station on your commuter train pretending to be an intercity train.

[@xicoavila3068]

Really loved the station, the orange and the palms go very well togheter, also the brick walls and the busshes around those are amazing. Defenatly one of my favourite builds

[@mordecaif]

You could put down a small train station near the map end and drag a line from there to Sunset City. People should be smart enough to take a train to the border and then get on the one you set up

[@MrCzechTexan]

You can actually connect a route to an outside rail connection at the edge of the map, it works just like a normal station and takes in incoming cims. It's not the best look but it works

[@joegeske]

Seen a few comments saying to place a station at the map border. That isnt even necessary. I am about to blow your mind, the border crossing segments at rail are actually fully functional station segments. You can just make a line from the station to the border. The only odd thing is that somewhere along said line you need a "real" station for trains to spawn from.

[@dasistdats]

There’s the mod called “allow intercity trains”. Should solve your problem😉

[@gatorthagodofficial]

A long wait is always worth it in the end… even if it ends on an odd note, still a necessary and beautiful build! 🔥💯

[@justarandompolishguy1513]

1. lol that's not how railroads work 2. You can make your own line by adding one stop at your station and another on the section of track that goes off the map, then people will use it

[@MatthiasPowerbomb]

Booster could be a subsidiary energy drink brand to Fab Soda. The name fits.

[@aboheinz7430]

Can you please extend the platforms, because otherwise the trains are much too long. On the right side, at the car park, there would also be enough space for a hidden pedestrian subway. Also there should be more space at the buffer stop to the train and the platform for safety. I like the look of the station very much. Great work!

[@nickriedel8026]

U could put the metro underneath the historical building, so u would have passengers using the building. The people mover may need to be connected differently. U could use the Avenue some meters apart of the train station to connect with a foot distance

[@monsi852]

Honestly the nicest trainstation if seen in cities skylines

[@jaschbum_5833]

Finally Ive waited so long for this video

[@danielchick1]

Surely it can't be that bad.... Oh

[@zachdailygames]

This is such a beautiful build!

[@kibblevert]

Maybe here, instead of it being torn down in 1963, it was updated, but not fully renovated. This led to the poor design choices since there was not as much flexibility in the update as there would be in the full renovation!

[@drjonritz]

Nice re-build. The tear-down was painful to see at first.

[@communistloser3182]

Fun fact, Booster is an energy drink made by Faxe Kondi over here in Denmark! I don't know if it's outside of Denmark but I know it's here!

[@Leyton_the_Fox]

11:35 You can’t (to my knowledge) have one-way station networks. You can, however, have one-way tracks leading to these station networks to get around the issue.

[@janvanheijningen8588]

Maybe u could say that the ground on the right side of the station wasnt strong enough to hold up the platforms, so they had to move the platforms more to the left of the station building?

[@duncantalksalot]

You could build a transfer station at the border that accepts regional trains where pax have to transfer onto local trains to get to Central.

[@johnmidwest5650]

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[@vajda_vvy]

Well, let's just blame corruption for the poorly designed station. The city council gave the contract to an inexperienced company which not only had ties to the mayor but also just so happened to contribute to the council members' election funds.

[@artistfkaW]

I had no idea they had trains in florida. Figured they would have outlawed it for no reason

[@professorcoms2481]

This was a mental episode

[@UrLocalGe3k]

Ur videos are soo good

[@vcnluz]

Guess the palms used by the streets are far better looking than the ones used at platforms! :)

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

Swamp soda? You must mean River Botanicals

[@gerardng5142]

Let the Fabs be the dodgy ones. They dredge up swamp water with high salt and sourish for their sodas. Water is clean but has high salt content with a sour after taste because its actually treated waste water from (the next yet to be introduced petrochem industry). The petrolchem company (the good guys) trying to improve their treatment but Fabs worry they might lose their source of salty and sour swamp water and thus tries to undermine them.

[@fatpug2.081]

my favorite series

[@LeveyHere]

Still a much better station than I could even think up lol

[@user-pp9yk3tu4z]

you could just move the main station building to the left so that people don't have to walk all the way around. would just need to remove that one road and building

[@H3rcules]

i guess you could put a station out of the city near the car spawn that accepts trains from out of town and then they can go from there to that station but i know you wouldnt allow that on yourself 🤣

[@olli8977]

Steam workshop has invisible train/ blank station and they accept outside trains. Add one like them maybe. Or add on the border of map one vanilla station and use local train

[@Blitzkrieger17]

Inconvenient AND useless? Your commitment to realism is astounding! 🤣

[@crazydrunkenirishdude6503]

The reason the train station was built on the wrong side was because an architect designed it, therefore the put less thought in how it functioned and more thought into if it looked nice or not.

[@MinedMaker]

Two dollars twenty's creative process is not for us mere mortals to understand.

[@freewyvern707]

For the poor design of the station, you could build a half-built overpass where one was clearly planned to be, but they never built it; likely due to budget restraints or something.

[@wolverinedeven]

Good work on station ,why not create another entry point to station from other side? I guess you can remove highway from middle of city. Try to create sunken highway passing through downtown

[@asianjesu5617]

You can connect a custom train line to the outside connection, the network that connects to the map boundary is a station network, shouldn't require any additional mods

[@constantinosbou]

It's a realistic build inspired by an actual American City, poor public transport - stations are the absolute reality! Love it! A super dysfunctional airport would be also nice

[@slovakperson]

I’d love to see some work on Cuba or the key islands

[@marianodn]

Epic episode!

[@marianodn]

jajaja The end!!!! jajajaj

[@josesalvador9118]

BRO, I GOT ANXIETY FROM THIS 💀💀 It looked waaaay to much like how I mess my stuff up, I think

[@marcsjk]

I think that apart from that old station you should have newer built stations simulating a company sort of like brightline, idk

[@chandlermerz2284]

Possible explanation for poorly designed station: Henry Flagler built the rail roads down here in fl. Envisioning a vacation spot for wealthy northerners Americans in the late 1800s’ here is the story line. Flagler grandchildren, you can change the name if you like, come to Sunset city council and design a cheap station as a cash grab. It obviously doesn’t do well and sunset city is mad at the grandchildren of Flagler.

[@NiklasTheFox]

i think that the trainstation should be a historic brick building whit several arches