This Changed The Show Forever! Battlestar Galactica

[@johnmeneses7039]

I cannot imagine Terry Carter being anyone else except Colonel Tigh. He created the role wonderfully. The same goes for Herb Jefferson Junior, I cannot imagine anyone else being boomer. Two absolutely magnificent actors!! RIP Mr Terry Carter.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree but it would have been interesting to see his take on the character. I’m sure he would have brought the same toughness to the role! (Sorry Starbuck!).

[@tstadl01]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 I definitely agree as well. I think that problems actually made the show better. I think he did a much better job as second in command then being a pilot.

[@HariSeldon913]

Just imagine the rewrites if they went and recast the role as a young Asian female. 😺😺

[@RedneckSpaceman]

​@@HariSeldon913HAHAHA!! The Asian Chick who played Boomer was/is Cute as hell!!

[@Fletchman1313]

Me neither. But it really would have been interesting to see that dynamic. Boomer probably would have been a captain, and Apollo and Starbuck both lieutenants. It really would have been different, almost in a Lower Decks kind of way, where they might be getting chewed out for doing something risky... like maybe Maverick and Goose from Top Gun.

[@transitengineer]

As an African American teenage male youth, when this first aired on network TV, I loved the fact that two of the lead actors were African Americans. Seeing Terry Carter, fly fighter pilot missions with the rank of at least Major would have been odd. Having a younger actor Lt. Boomer, be a fellow fighter pilot with Captain Apollo and Lt. Starbuck, showed that wisdom and being responsible can also be found in a younger person. (smile ... smile).

[@JL-iv9qr]

I thought I was the only one who noticed 2 Black men in a sci-fi show as a kid. Galactica and Star Wars started the Black Nerd community IMO. I was at the comic shop during the height of the Galactica remake. None of the Gen Z crowd knew that there were 2 Black actors in the original series. They also didn't know Starbuck and Boomer were originally men. It was a fun conversation with me explaining what stayed and what got changed. The Gen Z crowd was fascinated the characters mostly got along because the remake had so much interpersonal drama.

[@davepowder4020]

@@JL-iv9qr I was just thinking about that. Glen Larsen, just being his normal awesome self, kept things moving in a good direction, in spite of racism at Universal.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Nice! Thanks for sharing that and for watching!

[@lonknight3197]

​@@JL-iv9qr Really hate the new BSG series it was all about paranoia, and mistrust, the orginal series was all about hope and never giving up no matter what.

[@Scotty-Z70]

i was noting the same thing. To see a black man in a LEADERSHIP role...on SCIENCE FICTION...it was the earliest of my memory. People Praise Star Trek DS9 for Benjamin Sisko like he was the first, but to my memory, the first was Tigh.

[@BillGarrett]

Thank god both of these men made it onto the show, they were amazing

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching!!

[@GooeyGluey]

I SO love the 'Tigh & Adama' dynamic. Great duo!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Maybe he would have been miscast as Boomer! He is Colonial Tigh!

[@kirk1701]

Same!

[@colinw7205]

I always loved the life long Comrades/Brothers in Arms of the Adama and Tigh relationship. Adama wasn't just bearing the burden alone of saving the last surviving remnant of humanity he always had his faithful second in command at his side. I loved that this carried over in the reimagined version even though they introduced more character flaws. It was still faithful to the dynamic established by the great Lorne Green and Terry Carter.

[@colinw7205]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 I agree.

[@GooeyGluey]

@@colinw7205 Totally agree.

[@taproom113]

Terry Carter was destined for Command. His bearing and demeanor mirrored the senior officers in my Navy squadron to the letter. The ankle was divine intervention, bring order to the universe. GodSpeed Terry, you will be missed ... ^v^

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Thank you!! 🙏

[@damc8415]

Well put, but a colonel is higher ranked than a commander, who is the equivalent of a lieutenant colonel. So, why was Colonel Tigh the second-in-command to Commander Adama rather than the other way around?

[@JLvatron]

Good for the recast. Somehow I can't picture Terry Carter uttering the line, "They're Waggling!", lol

[@johnfleet235]

Carter as Colonel Tigh was a great casting decision. He seemed like the right age for the EO.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Your right! It really worked out for the best.

[@ytechnology]

I remember Terry Carter as Sgt. Broadhurst in the series McCloud. There, he played a similar role as a senior leader beleaguered by the rule breaking of his staff. He was great at that.

[@johnbaldridge1303]

Herb was excellent in his role! Great actor!

[@GooeyGluey]

He's great in that character. I think they were all so well cast for their characters.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree with you 1000%!

[@The_Fat_Controller.]

Terry Carter filmed the pilot in a cast painted black so it wouldn't show on TV. You can see the cast during the Cimtar ambush right after the destruction of the _Atlantia_ when Tigh is at the plotting board pointing out the location of Cylon base ships. Another fact that no one seems to pick up on about Terry Carter: When Adama relieves Cain of his command of the _Pegasus_ in "The Living Legend" and puts Tigh in command, Terry Carter becomes the first black man to be seen on a visual medium commanding a science fiction capital ship, if only temporarily.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Wow! Thanks for all that info!!

[@Fletchman1313]

It's probably because at that point, BSG fans didn't see black or white. They saw Human vs. Cylon (and Baltar). So we thought nothing of it. Just like how in the last episode of Season 2 of the Mandalorian, it was all women who assaulted and stormed the bridge, but nobody really noticed.

[@PopePlatinumBeats]

@@Fletchman1313 my friend... people noticed... star wars nerds are the worst about race and gender of any fanbase by far

[@rnkelly36]

@@Fletchman1313 Sci Fi fans of the 70s did not but TV stations specially in the American south noticed since Star Trek in the 1960s. Many shows with black leads had to be put in different time slots in some parts of the south. We were lucky because around this time there were only stations out of Savannah or Jacksonville and no variety. 3 to 5 channels and that was it. Its nice to think the 70s and 80s had race blindness but it was only because you were younger and black and women voices in Hollywood were more easily muted. But Sci Fi and fantasy fans were weirdos and we were expertly ostracized specially in the US south. Heck I remember the worry that people playing D&D were losing their souls to the devil and how it was banned in some small towns. In truth counter culture people like goths and gays and black were playing it and you could pretend to be someone else. Heresy!! haha that was a different time.

[@TowGunner]

I’m old enough to have watched the series from its inception. I even had a toy Viper and Ceylon Raider lol I loved the show. As far as Terry Carter goes, I can’t imagine a better actor to portray Col. Tigh. While I’m sure he would have been great as Lt. Boomer, Tigh was a perfect match for him. Tigh was passionate, dedicated and loyal. Traits a second-in-command must possess.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He was the perfect Tigh, and it's interesting to think about him as Boomer, as you said!

[@hexenhammer483]

Agreed. As much as I love Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica hold a special place in my heart. Star Wars was a movie. Battlestar Galactica was must see TV

[@arohk1579]

As a 70's kid Star Wars, BSG and Buck Rogers were the big three. Kids were obsessed and parents were broke at Christmas lol. I now wish I still had a few of the Canadian toys we got, as they are worth a small fortune 😊🇨🇦😊

[@davidradich9342]

I got to meet Herbert Jefferson jr at the motor city comic con about 20 years ago. He was impressed when i mentioned his role in. Apollo 13. We spent the next 3 hours talking about the space program! Really nice guy.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

That’s very cool! I met him once at a very small convention. He was super nice and a real class act!

[@lonelocustoftheapocalypse3700]

That's fantastic. I was shocked when I saw the movie as I hadn't seen him in ANYTHING in 20 years, over which he seemingly aged...maybe a month.

[@davidradich9342]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 He asked if I noticed that Jim Lovell was also in the movie, and when I told him he played the captain of USS Iwo Jima, the recovery ship, he was impressed. He then whipped out his photo album and showed me photos of him hanging out with Pete Contrad (Cdr Apollo 12) who he was friends with. I did my thesis on Von Braun and the German Rocket program and he was impressed at that. It was sad, nobody lined up for his autograph, that day, but it was cool, he didn't seem to mind. Really a fun time. Had a long talk with Richard Hatch at another con, when he saw my Navy hat and we talked about sailing. I only wish they would have given Herbert Jefferson Jr. a role in the BSG reboot, like they did Richard Hatch. I think he could have gotten the role of the captain of one of the ships in the rag tag fleet. Some of the folks you meet at cons are really cool and down to earth. He was one of them.

[@Hoeech]

He was also briefly in "Outbreak" with Dustin Hoffman with the single line "I don't do autopsies!"

[@YMagoulo]

I was also able to converse with him at a convention 22 years ago. Cool dude.

[@jsttv]

I met Herbert Jefferson Jr at Travis AFB in 2007 or 2008. Very nice guy and down to Earth. When I brought up Battlestar 1980…. He didn’t want to talk about it.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Can you blame him!! 😂

[@WalterKazban]

Well sorry to say battle 1980...was not made to the level original series had.. the original cast set the bar..and remake was no where close

[@JohnHolloway-e6j]

I love the original show all the characters played exceptional roles. God bless them all.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I’m with you! It was a fun (if dark at times) adventure show!

[@Roll_on73]

Wonderful example of a friend coming to the aid of another.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Was very cool of GL! True solid for a friend!!

[@ghostrider88jinetedelfanta31]

He was excellent as Col. Tigh! While his LT Boomer may have better than what we got, BSG would have been a different show with different dynamics.

[@The_Fat_Controller.]

Glen Larson had worked with Terry Carter when Carter played Sergeant Joe Broadhurst on _McLoud_ a few years earlier.

[@Roll_on73]

@@ghostrider88jinetedelfanta31 Very true.

[@Roll_on73]

@@The_Fat_Controller. Didn't know that.

[@richardeller9246]

He was great in the role of Colonel Tigh. He and Lorne Green had great chemistry as the Commander and the Colonel of the Battlestar Galactica.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It really worked out well! Thanks for watching!

[@zkeletonz001]

Most of the scenes I remember Boomer in he was giving some kind of advice to Apollo and Starbuck or telling them to chill out over something they were upset about. So it seems like he was still an older brother type, or at least, someone who was more level headed than the other two.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Good points! I think we would had seen even more of that in S2.

[@henrykujawa4427]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 It is absolutely CRIMINAL that ABC didn't do a 2nd season that cold have finished "the big story". (That abomination they did in 1980 doesn't count... to me, that "never happened.")

[@rizz917]

I met Herb at a convention many years ago in Fort Washington, Pennsylvania. Got his autograph, hang on my wall to this day. Nice guy

[@dalethelander3781]

I met him in 1980 at a convention in Columbus, OH for Space:1999. They were good for inviting guests from other SF projects. I also met my first wife at that con.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I met him waaaay back in the late 1990s. He was super nice to me as well!

[@johngallagher8775]

I met Terry Carter a number of times and he was such a wonderful person!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Hard to find anything bad about the man (not the case with some of the other actors!). A true gentleman!

[@AngryMoonKnight]

All things happen for a reason! Both actors created Iconic Sci-Fi characters.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It all worked out but it would have been interesting to see TC take on Boomer.

[@dalethelander3781]

Nobody else would've been right for Col. Tigh.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree BUT it would have been interesting to see his take on the character.

[@kennethmelnychuk9737]

Ironically enough, in Battlestar 1980, Herb became Colonel Boomer (second in command to Adama).

[@dr.mortose163]

I met Herb Jefferson Jr. at a Science Fiction convention years ago. I can't imagine anyone else as Boomer. Terry Carter was very respectable as Col. Tigh, I wish the show had lasted longer so that his character could have been explored more.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! GL said that he had some interesting ideas planned for the secondary characters had the show been renewed. I wish we could had seen that!

[@peppermintspacecapsule9898]

(Ankle breaks) "Ouch! When Universal find out about this..." (comedy pause) "... they're gonna go *CRAZY!"*

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@clasicradiolover]

That's great! 😅😅😅

[@gregoryt1139]

That's the scene that popped into my head, too!

[@henrykujawa4427]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@samcdonald123]

I always loved Terry Carter even before Battlestar Galactica, from his role on McCloud with Dennis Weaver. Terry's roles were always very classy, and his characters were highly respected. It was not easy for a black actor to get such sophisticated roles back in the 1970's - not even for such a superb actor like him. Thank you Terry, RIP...

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Thanks for all that info. The more that I hear from fans like yourself the more respect I have for him!

[@samcdonald123]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 Thank you for this video post. It meant a lot to me to see 2 wonderful black actors like Terry and Herb Jefferson Jr. on such a great show and cast when I was a kid. I learned something new watching this post.

[@timfankell4242]

When you watch the pilot, Starbuck and Boomer were obviously buddies, whereas Apollo was somewhat of a loner. I guess the show's writers realized there was a greater dynamic between the characters working as a trio, so that really became the show we we know and love.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

That’s interesting! I never picked up on that. Thanks!

[@docsavage8640]

100%, I always felt there were 2 friendships here: Starbuck & Boomer and Starbuck & Apollo, and that Boomer & Apollo wouldn't really have hung out if Starbuck weren't there as the glue.

[@paladinsix9285]

​@@docsavage8640To me it seemed like there was a different dynamic. Boomer was always the consummate Professional, and a bit too serious. Starbuck and Apollo were more aggressive and pushing things to the limits; Starbuck sometimes crossing the line. It seemed that (implied that pre series) Apollo was between the more serious Boomer, and fast and loose Starbuck. Apollo seemed to have been a bit more wild, until his younger Brother was killed when they were "playing Fast and Loose" and while they discovered the Cylon surprise Attack a bit early; it was still a Disaster for humanity! 😢 It seemed that after that, Apollo was more Serious, and felt the Burden of being Adama's son. Also, he was promoted to Commander of the Viper Wing (Fighter Group). Starbuck would occasionally say things that indicated that Apollo had significantly Changed. It also seemed that Boomer took over being a moderating force to Starbuck's tendency to impulsiveness. Not that Boomer was a "stick in the mud" he demonstrated Calculated risk taking and tactical aggressiveness where appropriate. Boomer just seemed to be a bit more mature.

[@vxy357]

Also keep in mind that Apollo was a family man with a kid. So that might explain his acting like a liner. But he was always there for the fight.

[@2012blueridge]

The whole old cast was perfect! Everyone really hit the mark on the old show!!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! There was going to be some changes for S2 but the main cast would have remained because they were so good!

[@AGreen-ug9oi]

I think it worked out perfectly. Herbert Jefferson was GREAT in the role as Boomer.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He nailed Boomer! 👍👍👍👍

[@grega7323]

Thanks for this bit of information, I never knew this. It was great to know Glen Larson still wanted Terry Carter in the show, even after his injury. Both Terry Carter and Herb Jefferson Jr. were great actors and I like them along with many others. For me. Star Wars, Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers in the 25th century TV series was a great time being a kid growing up.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Don’t forget The Black Hole and Star Trek TMP! What a time to be a kid!!

[@henrykujawa4427]

Terry Carter had been one of my favorite actors on TV for his 7 YEARS of playing Sgt. Joe Broadhurst on McCLOUD. When he appeared as Col. Tight on BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, once again the sidekick of the officer in charge, it seemed the most natural thing. He just got a promotion in rank. Herb Jefferson Jr. had appeared in a minor role on McCLOUD in at least one episode, so he was also a familiar face to me. One of my favorite moments in the pilot is when Adama has him stealing uniforms, he's caught, and he bluffs his way thru yelling about what bad shape they're in. "When Commander Adama sees these-- HE'S GONNA GO CRAZY!" Another was in "Baltar's Escape", when he walks off the bridge in a huff because a female High Council member has been hanging around there, second-guessing every decision. He shocks the pilots when he shows up at the Officers Club and sits down for a drink-- something he NEVER did since getting promoted to a command position. And while there, he lets Apollo & Starbuck know there may be trouble in the landing bay, thus heading off a disaster in the making, WITHOUT having to counter-mand the orders of the High Council member. (Infuriatingly, this hilarious scene was CUT from syndication when my local channel ran it in the 80s... but, I've got the Blu-Rays now.) I always felt that business about not socializing with the pilots was a carry-over from McCLOUD. In several later episodes, Chief of Detectives Peter B. Clifford (who got more and more irate as things went on-- purely for comedy's sake) would warn Broadhurst that if he ever wants to get anywhere, like a promotion, he's going to have to remember that he "has no friends" (referring to his good friend Sam McCloud). Tigh always seemed to me a "regular guy" who got promoted, and then, was only allowed to be friends with Adama, who was also in "command", not the pilots, who you just knew he had been one of, in earlier years. (But I don't think Adama was EVER as hard-headed as Clifford became. For a man with SO MUCH weight on his shoulders, Adama always had the biggest, warmest heart. (Except when dealing with the members of The High Council, which he was President of.)

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You make some very good points (many of which I didn’t know). I really appreciate it!!

[@carlrood4457]

That's actually a fairly common military mindset. After all, if you have to potentially order men to their possible, even probable deaths, friendship can't get in the way. It's even more strict between officers and enlisted personnel. Fraternization is pretty much forbidden.

[@mikeselwa2298]

Wow this bit of history is news to me. Its one of the many reasons why I love this channel. Keep it coming!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Thanks for watching! I really appreciate it!

[@brunozeigerts6379]

I love the scene in Hand of God. 'It's them!' 'How can you tell?' 'They're waggling!' Colonel Tigh: Waggling?

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@johnathan2684]

I remember!

[@ehudgavron9086]

I fly helicopters. We wiggle-waggle when we leave to say "We saw you" and "Thanks for being there." It's tougher than in a fixed-wing aircraft, but that makes it even more special. Thanks, BSG. Also, Starbuck, why did you lose that Roku Remote???

[@erictoombs4842]

Wow! You brought back memories. Young people just don't understand what we had back then.

[@scotthawver2666]

I remember even as a kid admiring the gravitas that Terry brought to the Col Tigh character. I think that fate had a hand in this.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thank you for watching!

[@dirkstarbuck6126]

Great analysis again! I’d heard that Mr Carter had been cast as Boomer; but not that his version was supposed to be an “older, wiser big brother.” Very interesting, but glad the casting worked out the way it did in the end. Mr Carter and Mr Greene had such great chemistry. And Mr Jefferson fit in so well as a third Musketeer so to speak, and still a steady influence on Starbuck. Thanks again for another great video!!!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I’m glad that you enjoyed it. I love these inside stories about what went on behind the scenes of BSG!

[@poetasintierra]

Thx for the upload. Very interesting video. I am a fan of the Original Battlestar Galactica to the core

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

[@mj1s735]

Wow, thanks for the information, I had no idea that the casting happened this way. It seems like things worked out great in the end. I actually met Jefferson at a convention once, he told me many stories about his time on BSG. Even some stories about working with Shatner on the TV show Hooker.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree, I think the casting worked out great! I’ve never heard a bad thing about him (not true of some of the other actors!). Thanks for watching!

[@scottmcgraw3749]

Great story that I did not know. What a loyal friend Larson was. Couldn't picture the cast any other way except, with a full series Serina (Jane Seymour).

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree!!

[@coliedrake2206]

If Serena had lived one would have had an ApolloStarbuckSerena Team like Kirk,Spock,and McCoy.The chemistry between Apollo,Starbuck,and Serena was awesome.

[@dennisthomas5869]

Terry Carter's Colonel Tigh rounded out Adama's character wonderfully. I think things worked out for the best.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You’re right but it would have been interesting to see what GL had originally planned. Thanks for watching!

[@Thorrh8d]

I can't imagine him being anything else. His character was a favorite for me.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He just nailed it! Thanks for watching!

[@markjustice7894]

Met Herb as well as Anne Lockhart and Richard Hatch at DragonCon in the late 90s. All three couldn't have been more friendly and obviously grateful for their fans. Got autographed photos of all as well as having photos made with them. The saying never meet your heroes did not apply to Battlestar Galactica.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I wish I could have seen them together!! You’re very lucky!

[@gruberjens4354]

I liked his Col. Tigh way more than the remake version. He nailed the likes and aura of an officer and gave him hunan traits to shine through. His chemistry with Adama was priceless. And the way boomer was changed and played out was spot on too. A happy little accident in the end :-)

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

TC is the real Colonial Tigh!

[@stevequerin2504]

I was 3 Years Old when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walked on Luna. Because of the APOLLO 11 Mission, I became a Hardcore Believer in Peaceful Earth Human Presence in Outerspace and on other Celestial Bodies; and, I became an Outerspace Science-Fiction Genre Fan. BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: TOS was a major influence on me as a Pre-Teen Child. • Spacecraft • Robots / Androids • Artificial Intelligence • Racial Issues • Gender Issues • Military Warfare I knew Terry Carter from various Theater Movies and TV Shows. For me, Colonel Tigh and Boomer and Lieutenant Uhura were the only Staple Black Characters in the Live-Action Outerspace Science-Fiction Genre; and, the Live-Action Superhero Genre. Colonel Tigh as an Older Leadership Black; and, Boomer as a Younger Up & Coming Black. Lieutenant Uhura may not have as much prominence as Colonel Tigh and Boomer; however, her Crew Position was crucial for the operation of Starship "Enterprise".

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Thank you for those amazing points! One benefit that this channel has done for me is to look at the show in a different light. Thank you!!

[@stevequerin2504]

@battlestarcollectica7106 ... I viewed the Centurion Robots as Male Robots; and, the Administrative Robots as Female Robots. I envisioned Male Actors and Female Actresses in those Roles.

[@ltGargoyle]

i grew up watching the Orgional series and own its DVD in Cyclone case. and no I think the cast was perfect. Terry was a great colonel Tigh. the Fact Glenn came up and saved his friends from getting fired was awesome. (just learned that) mad respect for all involved.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching and that Cylon Head DVD case is amazing!!

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

For many years Boomer had a seat at a table next to Rich hatch at wondercon in the bay area. Would see him every year. 😂❤

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

That’s cool! I understand that they were very good friends!

[@colinw7205]

I always loved the life long Comrades/Brothers in Arms of the Adama and Tigh relationship. Adama wasn't just bearing the burden alone of saving the last surviving remnant of humanity he always had his faithful second in command at his side. I loved that this carried over in the reimagined version even though they introduced more character flaws. It was still faithful to the dynamic established by the great Lorne Green and Terry Carter.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Good points! Thanks!!

[@Strive1324L]

I think it was a great move. I think putting Terry in a command role suited him well, he had the voice and the serious attitude of a commander. If the show would have continued he probably would have succeeded Adama as fleet commander.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree with everything that you said but it would have been interesting to see what GL had originally planned for the character.

[@Strive1324L]

@battlestarcollectica7106 True, would have been interesting. But that's what parallel universes are for! 🤣🤣

[@wingsley]

In some ways, the character of Lt. Boomer as played by Herb Jefferson, Jr. still retained the "older, wiser" characteristics described in this video. In episodes like "The Hand of God", "Fire in Space", and "Gun on Ice Planet Zero", Boomer sometimes chides Apollo and Starbuck as if he were more mature.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Your right! I just rewatched Fire In Space and for the first time realized how calm and smart Boomer was. He automatically took charge of the situation. I think if S2 happened we would have seen more of that. Thanks for watching!

[@charlesmiller6826]

There are no accidents, he was meant to be Col Tigh. No one else could have been, and we got thee Boomer wee all loved, too.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You’re 100% right. Stories like this one always amaze me!

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

I can't imagine the show with anyone else playing those roles and that includes Maren Jensen as Athena. I wished they given her more of chance. Man I had such a crush on her!

[@argonwheatbelly637]

I had lunch with her decades ago. Wonderful woman. Smart, entrepreneurial, and funny.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

The casting was perfect!

[@sandman_says_runrunner4701]

@@argonwheatbelly637 Well, color me jealous!! 😉 How did that come about? Well, it sounds like she was just as attractive on the inside. That is wonderful to hear. It also makes more sense now why she withdrew from the Hollywood cesspool.

[@CliffyOdell]

Love both of their characters very much. Col Tigh was my fav next to Starbuck as a young kid. Boomer being the around the same age as the other Viper pilots works really well, had no idea he was cast last minute!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It really worked out casting wise in the end. Thanks for watching!

[@GooeyGluey]

I didn't know this. Thanks! Somehow though, I think Boomer is still like the slightly older brother. He is a more grounded and practical guy than Starbuck or even Apollo. Starbuck is wild and risk taking...Apollo is emotional and (sometimes) over-impassioned. Boomer is the more level headed of the three, yet slightly more temperamental.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! According to what I’ve read season two would have had more of what GL originally envisioned for the big three.

[@GooeyGluey]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 The Three Amigos!

[@taproom113]

Well said! 👍 ^v^

[@Aaron361970]

​@battlestarcollectica7106 What could have been in a season two would be a great video... Ask Glen for more... I always thought that with the 'Pegasus,' lost in Space, and looking to make repairs on 'Terra.' (Ricard Hatches novel series). It would have been cool to have 'Battlestar Pacifica,' who survived at the battle of 'Cintar.'' You could have had the Galactica find Pacifica moving outward into deep space, but with massive battle damage from the battle (Giant / Massive holes in its exterior visible to the naked eye)... which it managed to barely survive in its last-minute escape. The Cylons thought the Pacifica was going to explode, so they let go, but the fire crews were able to just barely contain the fires in order to get away and survive. Thus, the Galactica and the smaller ships in the fleet could work the repairs on her while protecting her until she she was restored back to full strength and became the fleets' second defending Battlestar.

[@MrFlintlock7]

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[@williamripke982]

"when Commander Adama sees uniforms in this condition, he's gonna go crazy!"

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@johnbaldridge1303]

Love that quote!

[@jeffreywhitlock4882]

I think things worked out for the best. Col. Tigh was an excellent character and had a gravitas to him as a leader.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You’re spot on but I will always wonder what TC’s take would have been for Boomer.

[@albertomorales9493]

One of the best things of 2024 that happened to me was subscribing to this channel!!! Merry Christmas to all the BSG classic fans who still remember this GEM of a series.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I’m very touched! This means a lot to me! Thank you and Merry Christmas!🎄

[@jerryrehard7711]

He was perfect as Tigh.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree but it would have been interesting to see his take on Boomer.

[@nerored6235]

To me, it would have been odd for him to be "an older wiser big brother" type but be of a lieutenant rank. I get there could be any number of reasons for it but for story reasons it, a rank of captain or major would have just came across better for that type dynamic. But I glad it worked out the way it did. Watching the show is a fantastic childhood memory

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree with you. Thanks for watching!

[@amethyst7084]

Had no idea Terry carter passed away earlier this year (2024). I guess, as a TV actor, and not a motion picture actor, he was not on the radar of the UK mainstream news. his long and distinguished career should be remembered, nevertheless. It's really hard to imagine Terry Carter playing the role of Boomer, in the original Battlestar Galactica series, but it wouod be interesting to see hi take on the character. For me Herbert Jefferson made the character. He was clearly the level-headed character in the Apollo-Boomer-Starbuck trio. I would say he also served as Apollo's and Starbuck's 'elder brother' friend, just as Terry Carter was meant to. I just wish the series had developed Boomer better, and gave him more depth. Unlike Apollo and Starbuck, he was never given any family ties or love interests. It was good to see Boomer again in the Galactica 1980 sequel series, and once as Colonel Tigh's successor. Again, it would have been good to have had some background to this. I'm not overly fond of the makeover of Boomer's character in the 2004 Battlestar Galactica series. Making the character female didn't seem quite genuine, given that this was also the case with Starbuck, and she then did not have the same relationship with Apollo and Starbuck, that fans would have been familiar with in the original series. The they made her a Cylon as well. I think this was overdoing things...

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You make some great points. I do know that GL did have bigger plans for Boomer had the show been renewed. Audience surveys showed that the character was very popular (especially with women) so I think he wanted to take advantage of that!

[@juliancain6128]

I had the rare honor to meet Lorne Greene and Dirk Benedict at a Boy Scout event. They were super nice! Lorne Greene seemed like a giant to us kids! 😁

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Wow! That is amazing!! Thanks for sharing that as I never knew they did events together like that.

[@diggingattycho7908]

That's one hell of a promotion, from lieutenant to Colonel. I can't picture him in Boomer's seat. Tigh has a maturity that reflects his rank. It's far more believable that he served with Adama, as he said, "...we sure gave them a good run". Makes me wonder if Adama was the Strike Commander of the Galactica. Apollo followed in father's footsteps.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

We really could use a cannon based guide to the show. Would clear up a lot of questions! Thanks for watching!

[@jeffmorin1469]

I really think that the casting of Terry Carter and Herbert Jefferson Jr, was the best thing for the show. Carter was great as Colonel Tigh and Herbert Jefferson Jr. just became Lt. Boomer, his presence and delivery of his lines were perfect.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

They both were fantastic! The show was so much better because of them!

[@lsporter88]

It probably turned out better this way. Note to self, don't do anything dangerous right before starting a new job. Great video.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@dennissmith6845]

great story, thanks for this...liked and subscribed. Keep it coming ....

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I appreciate you watching! Thanks!!

[@123slasher.16]

In 1981 when I was stationed in California, I got to see them film this show at Universal Studios.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Very cool!! Thanks for watching!

[@samuraiwarriorsunite]

Not only was Terry Carter the sole black regular cast member on one of my favorite retro comedy series, the Phil Silvers show better known as Sgt Bilko, he was the first black news anchor-reporter for WBZ-TV in Boston, he was also the first in New England. Terry Carter had an impressive career in many areas of the entertainment industry, and he will be missed, RIP.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He truly was a renaissance man! The more I read about his career the more I’m impressed!

[@CAndrewNelson]

Fascinating. I can't envision Battlestar Galactica being any way other than how it was. Terry Carter was perfect in the role of Colonel Tigh. And I simply cannot fathom the role of Boomer without my friend Herb Jefferson Jr.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It would have been interesting to see Terry Carters take on the character BUT I agree with you. He is Tigh!

[@RichardEKranz]

I love the persona of Colonel Tigh portrayed by Mr. Carter. It would have been great to see if there was a scene where he confronted Count Iblis and we got to see something of his past that he didn't want to remember hence his tough demeanor. How ever if there was a second season i read somewhere that they were going to cut the Tigh character. So many possibilities with this show and all of them destroyed by others.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

GL said a few times that Tigh would have remained but would have had a “dramatic” story arc in S2. Maybe he was going to die?

[@RichardEKranz]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 I would have never allowed it. )p So much that could have been down with Adama and Tigh. One idea I had was if they were sent back to the destroyed colonies by a whimsical entity(maybe Orson Wells as a guest star) to be punished as one of those that were left behind. Of course it was all in their minds, but inadvertently unlocks another memory in Adama for the position of earth. It gets me so frustrated for "WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN" if they just gave it lead in time and to focus on the characters and loss of their civilization.

[@rnews5750]

Yes, I agree Carter would have played a great mentor to Apollo and Starbuck. I'm glad they kept him to play Carter. He played that character perfectly. RIP Terry!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@kennethmelnychuk9737]

Herb became Colonel Boomer in Battlestar 1980, second in command to Commander Adama.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I should have mentioned that!! Thanks for reminding me!

[@jasonthewatchmansson8873]

I wonder why Carter didn't continue as Tigh in G80. Maybe he had better projects or maybe he could see that G80 was an inferior show to the original. In any event, it's kind of funny that Jefferson took Carter's role as Boomer and then took his slot as XO of the Galactica.

[@kennethmelnychuk9737]

@ : yeah, BSG80 was such a dog of a show…flying motorcycles, kids leaping huge heights, Dr. Z(?). No wonder Dirk and Richard refused to act in it

[@larrybetteridgeii2817]

Man I loved that show....And Buck Rogers,and Space 1999. Some of my favorites

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Great times to be a kid! Don’t forget The Black Hole, Star Trek TMP and Flash Gordon!!

[@MrFlintlock7]

Terry Carter was class and power as Col. Tigh! He was smart, but you could tell that an ass-whooping would arrive, if needed.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@Randy.Wuerger]

When I was nine I sat around in a refrigerator box with a red-filtered flashlight pretending I was Colonel Tigh.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

🤣ok, that is cool! Thanks for sharing!!

[@kennethwilliams7731]

I also enjoyed his acting in McCloud!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I never saw that show but have read that he was great in it!

[@cedarledgepublishing]

This was one of those things that was meant to be. I loved both gentlemen in their respective roles.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It really did work out in the end. Thanks for watching!

[@peterdunlap7126]

i like the actor placement as shown on tv. i like the younger boomer and Terry Carter was excellent with Lorne Green. I think Terry did some mentoring to Apollo and Starbuck. I miss that show it was such a good year of scifi on tv

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I’m with you! If only ABC would have given it a second chance!! 😡😢

[@PhD777]

Terry Carter was outstanding in his part! No one other than someone the caliber of Woody Strode or John Amos could have done that part justice - which speaks volumes of the quality of performance and believability that Carter brought to part and the series!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He really did a great job with what he was given. GL always said that if S2 had happened we would have seen more of him!

[@paulthompson4367]

T.C was perfect, instant ICON!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@mjklein]

Carter was excellent as Tigh. One of my favorite quotes was when his character said "Adama, I'm in command!" and Adama complied.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I forgot that! Thanks and you’re right!!

[@WalterKazban]

I can understand..lots of fans white/ non white..like seeing the cast, it was strong and good for the story...all did a great job...wish in future maybe the humans could just be human beings.instead I'm Chinese. I'm irish. I'm black..I'm white..I'm mexican on and on..were americans

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

👍👍👍👍

[@johnathan2684]

Thanks for post. Love the series back the day. Didn't know that history withy the Col Tigh character.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I love these type of stories. I just uploaded an episode explaining why G80 came out so bad! Please check it out and thanks for watching!

[@Derpy1969]

You said roller blading but I bet it was roller SKATING. It was 1978! I don’t think roller blades existed yet!

[@willvgo2950]

It looks like inline skates were around a lot longer even if Rollerblades (brand name) came later.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Maybe. Have to double check some of his interviews. Thanks!

[@KOZMOGRAFX]

That was my first thought too. Roller BLADING wasn't a "thing" until the early 90s. It had to be been roller skating.

[@Bigfish1day]

I watched this as a kid. Was the greatest

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Most episodes hold up very well today. Thanks for watching!

[@keithsmith8543]

I met Herb Jefferson, Jr. at a Comic Con in New York in 2008. He was unbearably cool...😎 👍

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You’re lucky! He does not do many conventions anymore.

[@keithsmith8543]

@battlestarcollectica7106 Wow. I met Dirk Benedict in1999. He was unbearably cool, too. I wish I could have met Richard Hatch...🙏🏽

[@QuinnJACKSON-zx1dx]

Both Carter and Jefferson made their characters strong, calm and collected.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! Thanks for watching!

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Thing happen for a reason, truly a blessing in discise! ! !

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Agreed!! Thanks for watching!

[@homerelesperance2857]

That original show was just magical, I love it. The two black actors, Terry Carter and Herbert Jefferson Jr. played their character great. I can't imagine they switching character roles, I don't think it would have turn out right. The show short run and first aired September 17, 1978 and last aired April 29, 1979 with 24 episode. It was later revived as Galactica 1980, which aired for 10 episodes from January 27 to May 4, 1980. The reason why the show got cancel was its high production cost which lead to it demise, so I heard the rumors. I wish the show had stayed running for decades because it is a fantastic sci-fi series show that, personally to me, it is the best spacefaring, soap opera, action, adventure, drama, suspense, thriller, romance, sci-fi film ever made in human history. Far better than Star Wars and any other films of its genre still to this day. To all of the casts, guest appearances, production crews and others who made the film show possible, thank you for making a great show and for those that have passed away, forever rest in eternal peace.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

There is more to the story than the high cost excuse. Stay tuned!

[@MichaelBuieFilms]

It worked out perfectly... I wouldn't change the casting at all.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It really did. I can’t see anyone else in the role!

[@ebonthomas7912]

I remember this show as a kid this was my show. This and Buck Rogers

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I can remember in the early 1980s Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers playing back to back every day. What a fun time to be a kid!

[@Chrisdrumz]

It's interesting how BG was so diverse but it was no big deal. Nobody complained.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Believe me when I say there were complaints! It drove the writers and GL crazy!

[@patrickpirzer4080]

I think this accident was a happy one because it changed the tune in a good way. Terry Carter was the perfect guy for the "number one" Col. Tigh. A very honorable and impressive officer and personality.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It’s amazing how everything worked out! GL was a good friend!

[@markc5111]

Great video and very interesting too. ❤🎉❤

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Thank you!!

[@donnie2832]

Both were perfectly cast.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It really was a blessing in disguise!

[@Derpy1969]

Terry Carter was a class act. Herb Jefferson, Jr. was a better match to Starbuck than Apollo.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree but it would have been interesting to see an older Boomer.

[@seanswader7425]

I didn’t know they had rollerblades back then

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I misspoke. It was roller skates.

[@seanswader7425]

@ it happens. I thought maybe he got some way before anyone tried to make em seem cool or something

[@bugler75]

The thing is that I remember Col. Tigh better than Lt. Boomer! Two great guys though😊

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I think that the revised version of Boomer really didn’t have much to do as a character that first season. If the show had been renewed GL hinted at a bigger role for him!

[@bugler75]

@ I was thinking about this. This may sound at the best ignorant and at the worst racist but here we go. I was brought up in Northern Ireland in The middle of a civil war and we were predominantly white. What few people of other ethnicities (no one wanted to come here due to the civil unrest) there were tended to be in very lower socio-economic work. To see a Person of Colour in a high rank was an eye opener for me and in a positive way (I was around 9-10). So BSG had a really positive influence on me 😊❤️ I hope I have worded this in a way that is acceptable to all and doesn’t cause offence Please feel free to delete this comment as I would understand ! But BSG helped me to expand in a very positive way 😊 What a fantastic program! 🙌 And a great channel ! Ian

[@taproom113]

@@bugler75 Sorry you had to grow up in a civil war ... but I'd say you came out just fine. Skal ! 💪 ^v^

[@bugler75]

@@taproom113 Well thank you 😊 I think the majority of my generation are on some way better for the experience. There’s a determination to never let it happen again😊 I take it you’re from Scandinavia ? We still use a lot of Norse in our patois thanks to the Vikings that stayed in Ireland, particularly the North East. Skol and Slàinté ! Ian

[@myprogrockshow3025]

I think things worked out for the better. I wish all of these characters had an opportunity to develop.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Season two would have had some major character developments. I wish it would had happened!

[@The_Fat_Controller.]

@@battlestarcollectica7106 It is my understanding that there was to have been a major reduction in the cast for the second season, including Colonel Tigh. Sheba would have been killed off, and Athena would have been recast after sustaining serious injuries during a Cylon attack. Boomer would have been promoted to second in command, Apollo would have decided he'd rather not have any more responsibilities after Sheba's death, and would become more like Starbuck. Starbuck would be forced to take command of the Viper squadrons, and would become more serious and responsible.

[@knghtbrd]

Colonel Tigh was one of my favorite characters from the original show actually. Glad Terry Carter got the role.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

He nailed the part! It would have been interesting to see him as Boomer but he was a perfect Colonial Tigh!

[@elexigente7355]

I never knew this - amazing how Fate plays out! Although it would have been interesting to see Terry as Lt. Boomer, I think his portrayal of Col. Tigh was amazing! A pity he recently passed - RIP.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree! He would have brought a very different take to Boomer.

[@tobymaxmax658]

I loved his Tigh. Tough, practical and not an impulsive cruel drunk who “executed” crewfolks behind the captains back.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Let’s not talk about that which is not BSG!😂

[@Bellthorian]

They were both excellent in their roles.

[@krane15]

At a budget of 1 million per episode, BG became the most expensive TV series every produced at that time.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Your right! Just amazing if you think about it!!

[@MichaelLauzon1976]

More than likely, he was rollerskating when he broke his ankle and not rollerblading because rollarblades were an extremely niche product in the '70s where rollerskates were everywhere...!

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

You’re probable right. Thanks for the info!

[@barkermjb]

I grew up watching this show every week. I loved that an African American was cast in that important leadership role. Col. Tigh became a role model. I also loved Lt. Boomer and I liked him as he was recast and was presented as a fellow pilot and warrior. I really liked Battlestar Galactica and I wish it could have been budgeted better and continued.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

It took everyone by surprise when it wasn’t renewed. What a mistake ABC made!

[@GearheadCountryRadio]

I think the way it worked out , was great , Tigh , had that big brother , friend of the men feel

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

I agree but it would have been fun to see a hard as nails Boomer!

[@lonelocustoftheapocalypse3700]

I think the last-minute change actually worked well, because instead of playing an older, seasoned pilot, Carter played an older, seasoned line officer. And honestly the show needed that, as while Adama was ostensibly the "commander" he was much more of a sage, father figure, and reluctant politician - very rarely an actual military figure. Carter brought that military aspect to the show and it made things a lot more believable. Like any good XO, he came off as more than a little bit of a hardass, but was a constant reminder that Galactica was very much a "Navy" ship and not just a vessel carrying Adama's family and friends.

[@battlestarcollectica7106]

Great points! Thanks for watching!