This Character Is Going To END Granblue

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ANIMEILLUMINATI

ANIMEILLUMINATI

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They need to nerf this character immediately.
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@kylematthiesen4097
@kylematthiesen4097 8 ай бұрын
Seox mains in the corner like 👍
@whizthesugoi
@whizthesugoi 8 ай бұрын
Zoey mains out there like:
@souhayl224mnicher9
@souhayl224mnicher9 8 ай бұрын
Nier is definitely top tier but there is scarier characters to fight, plus she doesn’t have the best matchups, just use a character that is better in neutral aka fireballs, better buttons, etc. And dps can really stop her snowball, or just get good at the damn game, stop whining.
@tingispingis
@tingispingis 8 ай бұрын
​​@@souhayl224mnicher9Take your own advice and shut up and play the game instead of talking shit
@muhammadkhairulhaziq2905
@muhammadkhairulhaziq2905 8 ай бұрын
​@@souhayl224mnicher9 okay nier player
@souhayl224mnicher9
@souhayl224mnicher9 8 ай бұрын
@@muhammadkhairulhaziq2905 get gud or join the nier army
@midorixiv
@midorixiv 8 ай бұрын
there's definitely some 'fake' points in nier's pressure that you can react to and mash on, but that basically just unlocks layer 2 where she can start cancelling into DP to frame trap, and even without that RPS she's just a really solid character who gets massive damage and guaranteed mix off of every hit.
@rokuko998
@rokuko998 8 ай бұрын
I think she'll probably be a lot less insane once her damage is toned down and her chip damage is heavily nerfed. She can unload over 20% chip damage in a single blockstring and has the ability to full combo hitconfirm off pretty much anything. I started off playing Nier since she was new, but have been practicing Anila and Zooey now and it's made me realize the only real hard part of this game is hitconfirming off stray pokes into any sort of minor combo, which Nier never has to worry about really.
@AJRobin-qi5vu
@AJRobin-qi5vu 8 ай бұрын
@@rokuko998 doesn't this only make it so she has to run the mix a 3rd time really. the damage is a problem but the having a 4 way mix is also kinda insane.
@rokuko998
@rokuko998 8 ай бұрын
@@AJRobin-qi5vu Well her main mixups are strike/throw or the high/low auto combo or a reactable crossup you can use block button to block. Her mixups are mostly universal, the issue is that she gets full combos off them that nobody else can. If she does less damage, she'll need to use more puppet meter though and run out sooner. I hope her reversal gets gutted too though.
@JalisR
@JalisR 8 ай бұрын
My favorite one is "just look at her cooldown icons"
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
React to the cards 😃😃
@kaigai-nikimajikoi325
@kaigai-nikimajikoi325 8 ай бұрын
The content we're gonna get with Jiyuna playing Nier and making a guide is going to be gold.
@japser8147
@japser8147 8 ай бұрын
that double dodge and her still being safe is insane
@Daikuro1
@Daikuro1 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if BBCT Carl screamed like a toddler while doing clap loops.
@Xinrad
@Xinrad 8 ай бұрын
Imagine if Zato had armored reversal and such easy combos and conversions that you can do them with one hand... well Zato players probably will still call him trash
@Famitrack
@Famitrack 8 ай бұрын
Bro, I been a Nier fan since Autamata she was great in the game Edit: LMAO WHAT THE FUCK 2B GOT ANNOUNCED
@Mrholysymbol
@Mrholysymbol 8 ай бұрын
I...actually despise that I laughed at this but that edit caught me off guard 🤣
@clairemadeinheaven
@clairemadeinheaven 8 ай бұрын
so it's you we have to thank huh
@Mrholysymbol
@Mrholysymbol 8 ай бұрын
I thought this was a joke but you literally spoke it into existence
@Balloonshopper
@Balloonshopper 8 ай бұрын
She backpacked my ass up to S++ before I switched to other characters. From my experience the wildest thing with her is how literally any hitconfirm, whether a jab, DP, or catching their toes with a 2M, all lead to guaranteed 4k+ dmg -> setup. Think she could be toned down, but I wonder how a nerf would affect her tier placement since other top chars like Seox and Lance already feel like rough matchups.
@stinkyskills
@stinkyskills 8 ай бұрын
seox has a parry and its really fast, all nier players when the puppet is ready they will use a move to get a hit confirm, parry nier is easy. and then you have 3 seconds to do whatever you want agenst nier. Push her to the corner done, frame traps, easy. I find Seox being a good matchup agenst nier
@XakeR_
@XakeR_ 8 ай бұрын
They posted new info It was no balance changes on Jan 16 patch Looking forward to you playing Nier, Jjyuna
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
I already started her.
@amia7z
@amia7z 8 ай бұрын
I've been SAYING that puppet characters are evil.
@Xenozillex
@Xenozillex 8 ай бұрын
evil used to take some elbow grease.
@Bluzlbee
@Bluzlbee 8 ай бұрын
and generally they are evil back Lieselotte Achenbach Shabrys Enchantress DNF
@onlymyself1234
@onlymyself1234 8 ай бұрын
"what do you MEAN you get to zone AND have the longest combos AND have absolutely disgusting unescapable pressure just because you have another guy?"
@PrimeValkyrie
@PrimeValkyrie 8 ай бұрын
Nier is a fantastic case study on why Arc Sys puppet fighters should never be simple to play. Complexity was all that kept the archetype reasonable, making it something even glue players can fully utilise is insane.
@ImpurestClub
@ImpurestClub 8 ай бұрын
GBVSR will be alright. 2B announcement guaranteeing it’ll survive at least long enough for Arcsys to put out like 5 balance patches.
@FourthMan82
@FourthMan82 8 ай бұрын
I feel you man, I really do. As someone who has a friend who not only mains Nier, but actually knows all her ins and outs, I wholeheartedly agree that she's a effin' nightmare to fight against. But know what? Vaseraga and Belial (both normal and the Avatar version) are good counter-picks against her. Or at least they've been for me. With Vaseraga you need to pressure her and not let her set the pace; not an easy task, but I've done with him many times against S-ranked Nier players. Belial (especially the Avatar version) can shut her down pretty good as well, but you need to know her tells to be able to react accordingly. His counter where he teleports above is a good tool to get close to her quick and sometimes even get a hit along the way. With Avatar Belial, you need to push her into the corner and start your nigh infinite combo by sacrificing your own health; not an easy task but doable. His most important tools are his teleports and the ability to extend his combos via his own health. Also, if you didn't know, what makes Nier's combos so damaging is that the game does not view the doll's hits as part of your combo-limit because the game views the doll as a projectile; so any combos the doll does do not add to the normally gradually decreasing damage of each hit you get when you extend your combo with any other character. And I've seen a lot of top tier players making videos about her - of how disgustingly easy she is to play, how varied her tool-set is, and how much frame-traps she can setup. She's disgusting to play with and play against; I rarely - if ever - take a rematch against her, ranked or casual. She's really, really unfun to play against. Hell, I just watched a Master ranker starting from scratch with her and pushing her from S-rank to Master rank in just two hours, while using only one combo - just to prove a point how disgustingly easy she is to use, even against other experienced players. The reason she's commonly set so high in the lists where they rank each character - I think - is a combination of her ease of use; the tools she has (which she has the most of the entire roster); and how forgiving her gameplay is and/or how difficult she is to punish for her mistakes. But that's just my opinion. I'm not an expert, but this commentary was based on my experiences and my views on the matter.
@HomeslicedVideos
@HomeslicedVideos 8 ай бұрын
Always love a Scrawt take, both arrogant and wrong at the same time lol
@rollbustah
@rollbustah 8 ай бұрын
This is why puppet characters should never be easy to pick up and play. Since she's rated 2-star ease of use, I'm guessing the devs must have fucked up somewhere.
@shr0udedone
@shr0udedone 8 ай бұрын
oh no. that guard break clip you showed. oh no. she is BROKEN.
@highwind6309
@highwind6309 8 ай бұрын
Something a bit sad about Nier is that some people genuinely just like to play her for the lore, design, gameplay, archetype, etc. and then getting free hate for playing said character is quite rough. I have always got a curse of whenever I choose my main for any of the reasons above they were kind of weak (mk9 cyber sub-zero) or flat out trash (release Faust in GG Strive) and I love mainly setup gameplay but in the end, the real curse is playing a top tier because people have a hard time acknowledging that some players are good with said characters. Talking about Strive, I think release Sol or even Ramlethal were more, wayyy more, contenders for "most stupid overtuned characters in a fighting game ever" and I played quite a lot of fighting games from capcom, to arcsys, then bandai namco.
@AJRobin-qi5vu
@AJRobin-qi5vu 8 ай бұрын
True. I really like puppet characters but she seems so insane I would just play someone else. lol
@Guren4540
@Guren4540 8 ай бұрын
Not only the stuff you mentioned. There's literally no punishment for attacking her puppet. Like I attack it, then a couple seconds later it pops right back out for the abuse to continue.
@skurt2227
@skurt2227 8 ай бұрын
I really hope the GBVS devs will balance the game well from the start so the playerbase doesn't quit too quickly from how OP nier is. I'm having a great time playing granblue right now, but the devs gotta stay on top of what the players actually want to keep people playing.
@2DFightergaming
@2DFightergaming 8 ай бұрын
Puppet characters are pretty much always strong in fighting games just because of the nature of the archetype. The only real difference with Nier is that she's accessible to use. You don't have to negative edge, or mind the Eddy meter, or manually position the puppet, or anything like that with Nier. Just press the special button + a direction to attack, and U to recall the puppet. Her combos have similar inputs to other people's combos, which mean more people can go crazy with this archetype. That's why she's so popular. It's rare to find a puppet character that's this accessible. I personally think it's a good thing. They've finally taken the puppet archetype from 4x sweatier than everyone else in the game, to about 1.5x sweatier. Once people get used to it, her popularity will decrease as everyone gravitates towards the actual OP characters... Seox and Zeta. Nier's got clear weaknesses: 1) Projectile zoning 2) ungaa bungaa psychos like Seox, Soriz, Zeta, etc 3) Using the block button, and then a reversal, on her chain attacks while she's in range (this causes her to waste stocks) instead of trying to reversal her first attack. 4) She wastes stocks on baited reversals... she doesn't get those for free. Right now, everyone fights against Nier the same way; They just run forward with 66L and start mashing their buttons. Then Nier hits a reversal into a big combo and they scream "WTF". If you bait the reversal (like you should do for everyone anyway), Nier has to start playing more carefully, because that kind of thing wastes her stocks. Yes, she can combo you for 50%... but that also costs 5+ stocks (of 13 total) to do. The fewer stocks she has, the less dangerous her offence becomes. You bait a reversal, or block a puppet hit and reversal out of the puppet's chain attack, maybe 1-2 times and you've made Nier waste literally half of her stocks without getting any damage. That's a bad situation for her. Nier has enough stocks to do 2 big combos per round. You interrupt those and she's in danger of running out of stocks (aka puppet attacks) before the round ends. And she becomes a LOT easier to fight against. Just my opinion.
@eml0073
@eml0073 8 ай бұрын
agreed. people don't know how to deal with her right now. she's got some really strong shit. but she's also got some exploitable weaknesses. but thats how puppet characters are. when they get you in between themselves and the puppet, you're supposed to be screwed. you're getting 2 on 1ed. that's every puppet character I can think of. it's kind of funny that my man said he'd quit the game if nier doesn't get nerfed just because I quit the original GBVS over lowain. I flat out couldn't stand that iggy iggy iggy shit where he would become literally invincible for like 8 seconds and just rain hell on you and you had to basically QTE the shit or have the round stolen every time. I only started playing this game because I heard you can damage him while he's in iggy form now. just saying I get his frustration too. I been there over a different character.
@Kuraudou
@Kuraudou 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't even call Nier a real puppet character. She doesn't act anywhere the same as someone she was supposed to function as. (Think someone like Shadow Labrys). I'd say Death is just an extension of her move sets. In the same vein Relius is. The issues I have with Nier are pretty much: A: Midscreen Damage is way too high B: Reversal takes 1 stock. ONE STOCK. And it doesn't even go on CD. (Oh, but it's limited. While she gets stronger the less stocks she has. MMHM) C: Damaging the puppet doesn't keep it out of commission long enough IMO. If you're going to keep that damage, at least reward us for smacking Death away and making her more vulnerable. Knowing every single string where Nier can make something that was supposed to be negative, now plus is too much of a risk for just to try and mash really. One too many where everyone else is pretty straightforward in knowing what they can and cannot do. Those are my main gripes really.
@qspec2002
@qspec2002 8 ай бұрын
It isn't that she is accessible, it's that she can confirm off of everything. The fact that low-execution players can do her combos/setups has no bearing on whether she is strong or not.
@2DFightergaming
@2DFightergaming 8 ай бұрын
@@Kuraudou I don't want to diminish your complaints. Nier is very strong. But I think her strength is kind of necessary in a way, in this game. I also play Ferry. And let me tell you, people just mindlessly rushing me down with 66L is nearly unbearable with her. With Nier, people think twice about that, or they eat a 50% damage combo mid screen and get caught up in my set play. I don't think Nier would need such a strong reversal (being able to combo off of it) if certain universal game mechanics (and just ungaa bungaa in general) weren't so strong in this game. I think Nier represents not only the shiny new, previously "gatekept" archetype... but higher level players are gravitating towards her because she's also the answer to some pretty wild universal game mechanics that can just be oppressive if you don't have a strong way to discourage, for example, the abuse of 66L. Consider this, if Nier gets nerfed into the dirt tomorrow, do you think this game would then be fair? Or would people then start complaining about Zeta, Seox, Soriz, etc who are already just as strong, if not stronger, than Nier? I think before individual characters are looked at, certain universal game mechanics need to be toned down. I'm no expert. That's just my 2 cents.
@Kuraudou
@Kuraudou 8 ай бұрын
​@@2DFightergaming Everyone suffers to 66L. I play Vira. 66L is cancer. What do I get to fight it? My DP. That goes on CD. Or my BP so I can create space. Nier? Super Armor DP for the cost of 1 Card. INTO A COMBO. Nier doesn't NEED it. She doesn't have to even think about BP. If most of the cast has to deal with the same pressure to a degree, she doesn't need to be the exception when she already has plenty of damaging tools in her arsenal. Yes, the reason why people can skate over some of the other cast is because their tools aren't as oppressive. They can actually be handled and it actually takes some skill to work with(putting Seox aside). There's a reason why there's like 24-13 Masters between these two. It's their ease of access. Putting the characters aside, there are problems in the game's core mechanics. I know already. There's a lot that I hate about it. But it isn't the place to go off on it(Why even bother spot dodging moves sometimes if people can just mash L Auto Combo? HAH) Nerfing Nier isn't the solution to the overall game's fundamentals, but to at least bring SOME balance to what we currently have. It's like saying Kokonoe was fine upon release and that she needed her Blackhole loops to be relevant. When she had the most broken thing in her kit as a special. Control of your character's movement.
@Xengard
@Xengard 8 ай бұрын
"just block, bro. she's gonna run out of specials eventually"
@uhoh7545
@uhoh7545 8 ай бұрын
Guy a few comments up talking about how playing the most deliberate 4 way mixup game "to make her lose 2 stocks out of 13(!!!)" Each time is fair since she's a puppet character and that's how that archetypes supposed to be Bro.
@nathan5109
@nathan5109 8 ай бұрын
ur doing a good job on the uploads you're my favorite old head
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
GBVSR is fun
@SakuyaFM4
@SakuyaFM4 8 ай бұрын
I’m a Soriz main, too. Let me just enjoy playing my favorite Evoker after suffering at bottom tier for years (I still am)
@GarethXL
@GarethXL 8 ай бұрын
friends don't let friends play nier she wanted to be loved so much that everyone hates her
@UrbanRangerEch0
@UrbanRangerEch0 8 ай бұрын
I just hope they can balance her without destroying her character. I would like to keep playing her after the nerf. She’s got cool lore and abilities
@alejandrogomez1698
@alejandrogomez1698 8 ай бұрын
Fr
@Udderage
@Udderage 8 ай бұрын
I played Nier initially because I don't normally play puppet characters and wanted something a little more challenging... Joke was on me I cleared through to S rank instantly and didn't lose a game, practiced the cheap slash setup and made it even further. I dropped her for the inevitable patch that will make her unplayable, now grinding Vas. I'm coming for you specifically at this point Jiyuna.
@-8h-
@-8h- 8 ай бұрын
The update video just released. Rip, no balance adjustments for the 01/16 lucilius patch. I hope it doesnt wait too long after that.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
It’s time to switch.
@-8h-
@-8h- 8 ай бұрын
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I'd hope you wouldn't, but as long as you don't drop the game, and switch to someone you actually like once they kill her, I'm behind ya on this.
@StarBoxz
@StarBoxz 8 ай бұрын
8:03 They aren't lying about that last part though. Some people actually like her design and story. Not everyone picks her because she's a busted ass character. If no one liked her then why do you think she was added to the roster? She's pretty popular in the mobile game. Don't sell your soul to Nier. Reject Nier. Embrace Cagliostro.
@highwind6309
@highwind6309 8 ай бұрын
As a Nier lover, I respect this take. Cag looks really fun.
@esseubot
@esseubot 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I almost picked her up because her theme has the motif for my favourite granblue track, New World Order. I just didn't because from the arcana guys I preffer The Tower or Inchoate World
@abeybaebe2514
@abeybaebe2514 8 ай бұрын
Getting clipped and murked after a guard brake dodge naaaaaah 💀
@NBSilentShadow
@NBSilentShadow 8 ай бұрын
I've been a Nier fan/main since this video! Why did no body tell me I can get master with 10mn of play per week?! XD
@vidril6440
@vidril6440 8 ай бұрын
Was planning on trying Nier out after I got comfortable in the game because I wanted to try out different playstyles and I liked her design. Now I'm in a bit of a dilemma lol.
@ripbozo4809
@ripbozo4809 8 ай бұрын
Go for it, get that easy s++ if you want it
@CaptinSpyke
@CaptinSpyke 8 ай бұрын
if you like her play her it's not that deep
@Aripuni1
@Aripuni1 8 ай бұрын
bruh dont listen to ppl opinion if you see character cool play it, for me nier is strong ppl just salty
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Play her while you can.
@AlterAce
@AlterAce 8 ай бұрын
Id rather fight against Nier than Zeta tbh
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Zeta is stronger, Nier is easier
@deathcraft2299
@deathcraft2299 8 ай бұрын
you can spotdodge that RS setup, most character's 5H will hit Nier before 214H hits you, and if all else fails you can jab to kill puppet 100% of the time after spotdodge, but looks like you went for 236L for some reason
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Wow, just block the mixup!
@sindur3446
@sindur3446 8 ай бұрын
Something I’ve noticed while playing Metera is she seems to just kind of dump on Nier naturally, and I find that amusing
@moonbeam2730
@moonbeam2730 8 ай бұрын
aint no way she got away with attempted murder on the double dodge, CYGAMES!!!!!!
@Ohsnapkline
@Ohsnapkline 8 ай бұрын
The time for neutral has ended, time now for baby shark 🦈
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
66L time
@spicyluvsyou
@spicyluvsyou 8 ай бұрын
I'm more amazed at how many people downplay this character. She's a setplay character with high damage. Those things typically are never good together 😂. I say this as a nier main.
@pilsenenjoyer
@pilsenenjoyer 8 ай бұрын
Some dude on discord who plays Ferry has been telling us about his friend who is a Nier player who constantly whines about Ferry for "being stronger than Nier".
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Nier downplayers are the worst.
@user-fe5bm6ot8o
@user-fe5bm6ot8o 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t played it but everything you said in the first minute reminded me of XRD Ramlethal at launch. Just winning and don’t even know what they are doing.
@theatrociousgod2929
@theatrociousgod2929 8 ай бұрын
jiyuna talking about fucked up fg chars is my favorite thing lmal
@GELTONZ
@GELTONZ 8 ай бұрын
Day 1 for me was miserable and I hated the game because EVERY fight was Nier, Belial, or Bubz and I was playing Anila.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Struggle
@runifuceeme406
@runifuceeme406 8 ай бұрын
KINDA COOL "NIER" IS ALREADY IN THE GAME, AND THEY JUST RELEASED THE TRAILER FOR "2B" .. TAKE A BOW ARKSYS/GRANBLUE, TAKE A BOW..
@stinkyskills
@stinkyskills 8 ай бұрын
Characters who can parry her puppet makes it so easy, you have 3 seconds every parry to go in and mess her up. the moment she is on her back legs she has to fight to get neutral back. Yes she has the best mid screen combo and you will be blocking alot agenst her. I think once people figure her out and how to block her strings, she is going to be an easy character to win agenst and a easy character to play
@leemcgee5164
@leemcgee5164 8 ай бұрын
7:43 I'm currently struggling with Narmaya so I'd love a breakdown on Nier!
@on3punchd4ndy22
@on3punchd4ndy22 8 ай бұрын
Haven't played against a good nier yet since I've only played casual while I'm learning, but i noticed in one match that when I'm in between her and the puppet there was like a weird magnet pulling me towards the puppet. Like she's in the corner and the puppets in the opposite corner. This should be terrible use and mismanagement of the puppet but nahhhh we got weird magnetic shit going on. I'd say i think she is supposed to be a lot more technical then her current state is
@Uooooooooooooh
@Uooooooooooooh 8 ай бұрын
I don't know what exactly you're talking about but the puppet has a special that pulls you towards it both on hit and block
@lucianoaguero6795
@lucianoaguero6795 8 ай бұрын
Nier meta nerf is gonna be a bloodbath
@Xenozillex
@Xenozillex 8 ай бұрын
I would love a reverse baiken situation where they nerf her by making her more difficult to play to weed out the "mains"
@Arkangel04
@Arkangel04 8 ай бұрын
you don't understand, I've been a Nier fan since Nier Automata
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Well I got good news for you…
@ZeroillusionX
@ZeroillusionX 8 ай бұрын
As someone who likes to bully people on fighting games, I gotta say, I really don't care if there's stuff that makes the game unfun for people, and I would care even less if its easy to play so that everyone can do the same, what matters to me is if I can make people have no fun when they play with me, as i'm hearing she's not the best character right? she's consider one of the best but the fact that she's so easy to play that it hard carries people is the issue here, which I honestly don't see as a problem, because I played games where this happens to an even greater degree, for example, jigglypuff on melee, kirby on 64, pre patch diddy on smash 4, bayonetta on smash 4, petshop on jojo, but obviously he was without a doubt the best character in the game by a humoungus margin, bison on street 2, guile on 2, sagat on 2, easy as hell characters that really didn't took that much to play and hard carry people, super turbo is full of characters easy as hell to play that hard carry and the always thrive, I don't man, I can totally see this being an issue if she's the absolute best character in the game, because if I can pick it up and do worse to people then im all in for it, my main pleasure is to torture others for the sake of my own entertaiment.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
You are 100% a Nier player lmao. Go bully!
@ZeroillusionX
@ZeroillusionX 8 ай бұрын
@@ANIMEILLUMINATI I'm a bully, but im also poor, so I'll wait for thr free to play nier.
@Leerimius
@Leerimius 8 ай бұрын
Puppet characters should both not have armored reversal nor should they be able to convert the armored reversal they shouldn't have into 6k damage. The whole point of the character archetype is that they have strong desynced offense that's difficult to escape from, and that when they aren't set up they're weaker. At no point is she weak unless she recklessly burns through all of her charges on pressure. And honestly good luck surviving 13 chained specials worth of mixups. -She should lose half stacks if you hit Death. It's such a huge threat that you should be greatly rewarded for successfully challenging it. -More stacks should be consumed if she's converting them into damage -The armor needs to go, come out like frame 3 so its not usable on wakeup, or it cannot be canceled out of if it's the starting special in the chain. Take your pick or mix and match. -She should suffer a scaling penalty that continues to grow the more specials she chains. -She should die after running out of stacks. All reasonable and well thought out rebalances which were not in any way related to me matching up against multiple S+ Niers in casual matchmaking.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
The reversal needs to go.
@tronixchl2004
@tronixchl2004 8 ай бұрын
Happy chaos tier of meta game, difference being she's easy to play so ITS EVEN WORSE, holy shit.... I hope they nerf her into the ground cuz a puppet character shouldn't have THAT POWER
@arnicevonroswell8045
@arnicevonroswell8045 8 ай бұрын
"Just mash bro" is up there in one of the stupidest things to say
@nekomekoplays
@nekomekoplays 8 ай бұрын
Cant wait to see Jiyuna playing Nier content
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Soon
@eFeXuy
@eFeXuy 8 ай бұрын
I was already sold at "braindead"
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Don’t let people tell you she’s hard to use.
@KiplingFF
@KiplingFF 8 ай бұрын
While she may not be that difficult to play, I think that’s largely a symptom of the game itself being much more accessible. If this were a more “traditional” FG without simple inputs I would imagine Nier would be a lot more execution intensive and it would stop most people from seriously picking her up.
@LecorbakOfficial
@LecorbakOfficial 8 ай бұрын
but it wouldn't solve the problem, Nier would still be broken.
@chaselewis5372
@chaselewis5372 8 ай бұрын
Any character whose BNB works off DP and leads to 50% + guess for game will feel easy in any game.
@third-ratedude4234
@third-ratedude4234 8 ай бұрын
That would only change how many Nier you encounter online. She would still be top tier, and people would still complai about her
@KiplingFF
@KiplingFF 8 ай бұрын
@@LecorbakOfficial she’d still be strong but I think people are less frustrated by that when you have to work really hard to get the strength
@Awhrii
@Awhrii 8 ай бұрын
@@KiplingFF well yep, Shes the most unfun shit i'v faced in my life, If atleast she was hard it would feel just a skill gap, But the fact my little cousin could play her and roll people with complete ease and in such disguting way, Its just bruhhh
@clairemadeinheaven
@clairemadeinheaven 8 ай бұрын
Ji make a Nier guide so everyone gets OP with her which would force arcsys to nerf her lol
@nekrofantasia1433
@nekrofantasia1433 8 ай бұрын
I don't care how bad they nerf this character, I will still play her
@BlazblueFan
@BlazblueFan 8 ай бұрын
Btw 2B is announced for Granblue. I think we are closer to getting Ragna in Granblue than in Strive. How do you feel about that Jyuna?
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Rayna my beloved…
@SavagePandaSwag
@SavagePandaSwag 8 ай бұрын
Be careful what you wish for, you know how those arcsys patches tend to workout
@augusmnyt
@augusmnyt 8 ай бұрын
I get she’s cracked but it’s crazy to really focus on her when Seox and Zeta also exist in this game. I get more bent fighting against Seox slop.
@potatsword
@potatsword 8 ай бұрын
Nier army is bigger atm so she gets all the attention for now.
@nerio1227
@nerio1227 8 ай бұрын
1/3 of my matches are freaking Nier so guessing I'm not the only one hence the voice is louder on her. Fought alot os Seoxs too and for me they are the same. The pressure just doesn't end with a shit ton of damage output as a reward.
@uhoh7545
@uhoh7545 8 ай бұрын
Does NA have that edgy dog in them??? I've fought a single seox to far and mixed his ass in the corner with lil wayne for a free rank up
@thelaughingdragon32
@thelaughingdragon32 8 ай бұрын
She is the next happy chaos
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
50% matches are Nier
@TheOznow
@TheOznow 8 ай бұрын
Maybe it’s just me but does anybody else feel like it’s hard to actually hit death? I’ve purposely thrown rounds trying to MASH and she still wouldn’t die 😂
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
You can only hit her when active which makes it rough
@TheOznow
@TheOznow 8 ай бұрын
​@@ANIMEILLUMINATI wow that's pretty crazy
@FoxNightDream
@FoxNightDream 8 ай бұрын
This character is an abomination of a design. Any starter from ANYWHERE on the screen is guaranted to be 40% minimum if you don't drop your combo. You get throw out of your EX Wake up DP? Doesn't matter the cooldown is refreshed you can do it again! Her dash L is godlike compared to the entire cast this shit goes so far it's not even funny. Low on doll ressources? Your SBA gets a massive, unscalled by combo damage buff that goes up to 1500 free damage. The character got unblockable setup that are safe from reversal / BP reversal. I don't know what the hell the devs were cooking with this character but she is over cooked.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
She’s a mistake.
@Uooooooooooooh
@Uooooooooooooh 8 ай бұрын
I don't know Jiyuna personally I think having a "No I win" button whenever my opponent tries to pressure me greatly enhances my enjoyment of the video game actually it stopped being funny after 200 matches so I switched to other characters now until Nier gets nerfed and I have to relearn her, Soriz is pretty fun
@Yukari_MAiG
@Yukari_MAiG 8 ай бұрын
Nier deserves this! I mean her lore is so painful she deserves something nice. 😭
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
She is destined to suffer. Nerf her!
@lenneth1188
@lenneth1188 8 ай бұрын
I've mained Nier since super turbo
@undergod4930
@undergod4930 8 ай бұрын
Man never fought all buff patch berserker in dnf. But she is p funny.
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 8 ай бұрын
might this have something to do with the fact that her heavy cooldown specials have no cooldown and she's a puppet with easy controls? just saying.
@Seama327
@Seama327 8 ай бұрын
I really wish this game didn’t have a block button:(
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Same, but you need it. Some of the mix is too cheap
@samflynnmadsally
@samflynnmadsally 8 ай бұрын
She's called what again? Because I have a new main in a fighting game I've never played. Don't judge me.
@heartlesslucas7781
@heartlesslucas7781 8 ай бұрын
Want to buy the game but the balance issues are keeping me from pulling the trigger. Hope it gets smoothed out soon
@Bovaz85
@Bovaz85 8 ай бұрын
So, if I understand the message correctly, as an old and slow player myself, I should pick up Nier?
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Yes.
@hotdog5927
@hotdog5927 8 ай бұрын
bro posting those day 1 tier lists like his viewers aren't gonna treat it like the gospel
@rb.phonics
@rb.phonics 8 ай бұрын
Yo Jiyuana, do you think you could do another one of those videos where you show the voice actors for characters in fgs?
@cam0x195
@cam0x195 8 ай бұрын
We're in the granblu huh
@furix
@furix 8 ай бұрын
Damn jiyuna I can't believe you got outplayed
@KoopaKoot
@KoopaKoot 8 ай бұрын
You wanna win yo? PICK A TOP TIER!
@AlwaysSunny8193
@AlwaysSunny8193 8 ай бұрын
2B Granblue
@M1ndzor
@M1ndzor 8 ай бұрын
I never rematch nier players. No idea what devs were thinking giving a character full corner damage midscreen that gives you dp safe oki on character that does more than average damage in general. Not to mention full side swap combo from hitting ex reversal being in corner.
@ChrisMS0815
@ChrisMS0815 8 ай бұрын
Lmao "I been a Nier fan since 3rd strike". Well I been a Nier fan since I first played Nier back on PS3.
@waninoco
@waninoco 8 ай бұрын
I've always liked Nier and have been maining her since Midnight Carnival.
@plasmahandoku1073
@plasmahandoku1073 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching a video of the most easiest to hardest, Nier was one of the few hardest. But it felt odd because she felt like the easiest for me.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
She has the highest ceiling but also a very low floor.
@Franko_L_L
@Franko_L_L 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely insane character
@MatronMugrai
@MatronMugrai 8 ай бұрын
Hear me out... Nier is OP because 2B is coming If I wasn't interested in GB before, I am absolutely playing 2B, even if she's bottom tier, I'm playing 2B (... Okay, you got me... She's C tier at best, the cake is not a lie)
@chileshems88
@chileshems88 8 ай бұрын
Instead of a second dodge, can you armor through?
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Depends on what move she does.
@boros9685
@boros9685 8 ай бұрын
I knew something was off when I was loosing to every nier online lmfao
@billyscenic5610
@billyscenic5610 8 ай бұрын
I will pop your video on my second monitor and "watch" you while I play a game. Sometimes I forget to turn the sound on (its this annoying button) and I see you talk, and I can almost just lip read in your voice what you are saying, not even just the preamble. What I am saying Is I am not a CIA agent catching up on American expatriots, but that I think you could take your voice to a whole another arena of cash money. Whew.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Watch them Ads
@-8h-
@-8h- 8 ай бұрын
I was really exicted for nier because i love puppet characters and i liked how she looked. It was only reinforced in the gameplay trailer because i like how she looks when she fights alone, which im not a fan of with others like carl, and her puppet doesnt look stupid, which sometimes seems to be difficult for devs to do. but this is insane. Shes so played that i wont even bother touching her. Ill wait for the inevitable nerfs, and i hope they gut her. THEN ill pick her up and learn. In the meantime, i'll be filled with disappointment as well as having a character crisis.
@percocetthirty
@percocetthirty 8 ай бұрын
drop the nier for dummies bro i spent 50 dollars and need to get this dopamine fix
@benfish3406
@benfish3406 8 ай бұрын
I haven’t bought this game but I played the beta. I saw this characters trailer and wanted to play her when I bought the game but if she’s a braindead, hated character in the community that’ll 100% ruin her for me. Time to pick someone else
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Don’t worry what other people think about your character.
@billyn7757
@billyn7757 8 ай бұрын
Im waiting for your Guide Jiyuna when you pick up Nier!! Unless she gets fixed in January i wanna try just to BS around. Vira will always be my waifu and but im willing to try the BS for fun.
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
Vira is a solid choice
@fabriciosouza3128
@fabriciosouza3128 8 ай бұрын
But she's a puppet character, she's sooooo technical
@Thanaroa
@Thanaroa 8 ай бұрын
Love puppet characters, was gonna learn nier. If arcsys makes her mid tier, i might play her in future but rn it feels cheap. Eustace it is
@DoctorKarkand
@DoctorKarkand 8 ай бұрын
No need to wait for a patch, just play her NOW.
@AresGod0fWar
@AresGod0fWar 8 ай бұрын
Granblue and Blazblue have been saved. Now, Jiyuna needs saving! It’s his turn. You hear me, Arcsys? Cygames? I haven’t fought that many Niers in ranked or even casual matches. Just started ranking the other day and just hit S so maybe that’ll change. Played against one early on and a friend plays her, and I got shit on at first. I played against one that didn’t protect the puppet though and I went ham and destroyed them. I don’t know where all the Nier players hiding, but I barely match against one so I don’t know enough other than she seems strong.
@Awhrii
@Awhrii 8 ай бұрын
They are all sss and master thats why 🤣🤣🤣🙉
@AresGod0fWar
@AresGod0fWar 8 ай бұрын
@@Awhrii LMAO! I’ve been seeing more of them spring up. I wish there was an option to make a lobby after your set was done.
@coolfish420
@coolfish420 8 ай бұрын
I will be the first Uno master.
@Mrholysymbol
@Mrholysymbol 8 ай бұрын
I'm rooting for you big dog, he could use the representation
@Layazeroda
@Layazeroda 8 ай бұрын
If you can master him, that actually might not be too hard because NO ONE will know his mix.
@yubeluchiha
@yubeluchiha 8 ай бұрын
Good think rank is tied behind your character then real skill lol once nier gets nerf people are still going to main her because the mechanics everyone has a chance to win in match ups
@VoltSlash
@VoltSlash 8 ай бұрын
All the Nier fans since Pong please stand up!
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
OG Nier Fan
@gl1tchmast3r43
@gl1tchmast3r43 8 ай бұрын
Nier did give us a banger ost tho
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
I can agree with that
@elijahoneill5228
@elijahoneill5228 8 ай бұрын
Just armor through it- Vasaraga player
@shadatoosaucy3445
@shadatoosaucy3445 8 ай бұрын
Everyone says just mash but im different...have u tried repeatedly pressing buttons :kappa:
@ANIMEILLUMINATI
@ANIMEILLUMINATI 8 ай бұрын
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