This Cheap Ricoh GR IIIX Alternative Is Awesome!

[@peterzeegers9266]

Does he actually say what the cheaper camera actually is?

[@robinwong]

Can someone help this poor lost soul please? Thanks.

[@fredfunn5413]

Sony nex-6

[@ezekielkokspeaks]

@@peterzeegers9266 you would know if you watched the whole video :)

[@bingbong4848]

Sony A9iii

Did you actually watch the video? 😅

[@D_R_Martin]

Learning to shoot good photos on a budget camera is a great way to improve your photography. There is nothing wrong with the NEX6 and the lens combo you used. Your photos were great and definitely did a good job of telling cool stories. Thanks for your enthusiasm and honest reviews of the budget options.

[@user-jp3vl5jx1j]

My NEX 6 is still going strong. Flawless little apparatus.

[@robinwong]

These older cameras are awesome

[@gordon3988]

Another example of skill vs tools! Loved some of the photos! So many lens options out there for Sony APSC as you noted, so good selection and reasonable pricing.

[@robinwong]

Thanks, appreciate the kind words

[@mattstone8878]

Good job Robin Wong! You have such passion! It's infectious!

[@robinwong]

Thanks, appreciate that

[@_haru_na]

Literally just fixed my Nex - 6 recently. (Broken screen and sticky dial). Currently using it with adapted vintage lenses and has been a joy to use.

[@robinwong]

Indeed, NEX-6 is such a joy to use

[@bondgabebond4907]

Wow, the images/color is stunning. I also have that TTartisan lens, and it is a very good and sharp lens. I got it for compactness. The photos of all the fruit makes my mouth water.

[@robinwong]

Thanks, appreciate the kind words! The TTArtisans lens is indeed very good

[@kerc]

I have an older NEX-F3 with that same lens and its a fantastic daily carry combo.

[@robinwong]

Smaller cameras rock

[@d3xmeister]

Honestly a GX85 or better yet a GX9 with a 20mm is the most powerful combo for not a whole lot of money. And there are little to no compromises, it does have a good EVF, tilt one, it does have amazing stabilization you can shoot up to 1 second hand held with this combo, it does have amazing video (though cropped by 1.2x) it does have a screen that’s better than anything from Sony even today, it can really be used in daylight, and it tilts, and while this combo has slower autofocus, this is the most precise autofocus you’ll ever use, trust me. It will never miss focus when it confirms green.

[@robinwong]

And how much does the GX85 and 20mm cost? I'd say, almost the same as GR IIIX. The point of this video, was to find an affordable alternative.

[@d3xmeister]

@@robinwong Actually in my country Romania the GX9 and the 20mm can’t be found new for some reason. And a GX85 is discontinued for sure. The price of a used GX85+20mm is around $300 equivalent and a GX9+20mm is around $500. I wasn’t able to find any Sony E cameras under $200 in the same market.

[@dogblessamerica]

Yep I also bought my GX80 for that reason. This Sony set up looks terrific too

[@MrKkspeed]

Not sure why all the manufacturers give up on the small lightweight camera market segment. Sony has not had a camera that is as small as the Nex series for years and Panasonic has not refreshed the GM / GF lines. I feel there is still a market for that.

[@jmtphotographymedia]

I agree. Even professionals want a small camera for personal use/work. Nobody really loves taken photos with their phones lol. We need good compact cameras.

[@Durio_zibethinus]

Poor at segmentation marketing and software development. You've to realise how stubborn Japanese companies in this regard. Panasonic took a long time that phase detection didn't hurt image quality, their GH6 even worse at that. G100 is a fine camera, but they launched it poorly without knowing what vlogger is. Sony famously had bad UI across their products. Their read/write speed also used to be abysmal. My guess is they just depends on hype buy and influencers without knowing what to do 😅

[@ssoqboss]

It just makes no sense because lenses are still big and bulky. Since you can't put it in your pocket there is no point to make body like compact. Even in this video, this setup doesn't match with Ricoh GR3 indeed. You can't put it in your jeans or shirt pocket so it's immediately disqualified from competition.

[@jlee104]

I think the problem is that the dedicated camera segment is shrinking and smaller cameras would dictate a lower price but manufacturers would rather make pricier cameras.

[@jmtphotographymedia]

@@jlee104 good point

[@trevorfentiman5283]

I use a lumix gx80 with kit lens which does the same thing and is well affordable for a camera to put in your pocket, well worth a look at as well

[@robinwong]

I don't think it is the same. GR IIIX has a fixed 40mm equivalent lens. You can use the Panasonic 20mm, which would ramp up the cost and the combo won't be a budget alternative anymore.

[@abchappell01]

Robin, that was a wonderful presentation. I am going to go and dig out my old Sony Alpha 5100 now. Thank you so much.😊

[@robinwong]

Yes show the old camera some love

[@taratantara]

My cheap Ricoh GR replacement are a simple EOS M and Panasonic GF1. Higher up, I also use a DP3 Merill and DP2 Quattro. I'll never sell my Ricoh GRII with its incredible pop-up flash, but it feels good to change systems from time to time and be able to link a certain camera model to a certain trip. The pleasure of working with older cameras and taking your time instead of snap shooting at random things also makes the experience of "older" cameras more enjoyable.

[@flagger2020]

I like my eos-m1s they have very good image quality, colours etc focus is accurate if slightly slow. Only thing is the strange mix of touch screen use and buttons, like playback zoom only by touch screen not the dial. With the ef-m 22 it's a chunky compact camera.

[@JeevesTCW]

Nice video Robin you can get great pics from any camera. Very gd point about sensor dust problem with GRiii range especially when putting in a pocket haha.

[@robinwong]

I know right, why make it "pocketable" if you can't put it in pocket?

[@michaelbruchas6663]

Have 2 Nex3’s as backup cameras - but not used in years. My a6000 was my main Sony. My lens for this camera was a 16mm “Hasselblad” lens - really made by Sony. Fantastic color in your shots!

[@reindeerdashie]

Been using the NEX-6 along side my A7RII for a long time now and it's a remarkable little piece of kit. I used it to photograph a solar eclipse and it pulled through like a champ ❤

[@eyeswideopen565]

I was actually looking at the Ricoh GRIIIx before you posted this video! Read my mind! I have an old Ricoh GX100. It's small, light and takes great pictures. The only downside is it's very slow when taking and recording a photo in RAW. There's that certain appeal to small, light cameras that take great photos!

[@robinwong]

If you can afford it, go for the Ricoh GR IIIX, many photographers sing praises for that camera!

[@dhcho4473]

I really greatly agree. I've been using all of GR's products for a long time, from GRD to GR2, and GX100, GX200, and GXR. However, the recent high prices and overheating of GR3 and GR3X have made me a GR enthusiast find another alternative. It's better enough on camera in a decade or so, and there are many different alternatives.

[@kiwigreenflame]

I love the vibrancy in your photos. The colours really pop. (My cheap GRIII replacement is a LUMIX GX1 with the Olympus 17mm f2.8 or the LUMIX 14mm. I have the external EVF for bright days :-) )

[@robinwong]

OH yes the GX1 works very well too

[@ajaybangi]

I have a5100 & that ttartisan lens combo for my smallish cam set up. Similar size with the nex6 i think or even smaller. Just that it doesn't have viewfinder

[@robinwong]

Yeah the viewfinder is very important to me though in Malaysian weather

[@largophoto]

Robin ..I loved the comparison .. ( I upgraded my Olympus to the OM5 with the pro wide) ...at 7:39 a beautiful green bug shows on the Sony ...I was expecting this to be a segway into another one of your fabulous macro videos ... cheers Robin / Nick

[@HonJingKaiCwss]

Yes! Thank you for covering the Sony NEX 6! Its my favorite camera and my main cam. Sad to see it being overshadowed by the newer Sony A6000 but the NEX 6 is just as capable, and found cheaper than the A6000. :)

[@robinwong]

The NEX-6 has much better EVF than A6000

[@StefanBacum]

I started doing photography on the Sony Nex 5R that i bought for 200 bucks with the kit lens. I wanted to take better photos of my vacation and not use my phone. Thats where it started for me

[@robinwong]

Yeap, we can go budget and still take beautiful images

[@dasaen]

Was just coming out of another video where someone referred to an apsc cameras as “entry level”, and I really feel we need more videos like this because most people I know will not buy a camera just because they have the z6iii price in mind.

[@robinwong]

Yeap we don't have to break the bank to enjoy photography

[@jumpmansz]

As a a6000 and EPL6 owner, the colors of the Olympus, paired with the pana leica 15 are much closer Ricoh’s. Good video!

[@sukerman101]

I know the price is way more expensive, but i am using Canon r8 + 28mm pancake lens to replace my gr3 and it performs very well

[@rl4bzs]

Excellent video and pictures as always, Robin. Perfect camera for B&W street photography, if you struggle with the colors…

[@robinwong]

I think if you struggle with colors, you should learn to master it first, before going black and white!

[@jonlow]

Now i want one

[@robinwong]

Buy buy buy! Or you can grab mine anytime. You know where to find me.

[@larsgraulo478]

Me too 😂

[@mitchellwnorowski6747]

LuV my Nikon 1 J4. I have added a grip and a collapsible shroud for the lcd.

[@robinwong]

Nikon 1 system is awesome

[@Alanwking]

I love that TTArtisan lens. I'm using it on my Sony A6400.

[@dogblessamerica]

Robin the colours in your pictures taken with this camera look great. What didn't you like about the Sony colours? Did you have to process them a lot?

[@GutsOnAScoot]

Robin is looking buff nowadays he should start reviewing old DSLR with big tele lens😂

[@siniasta99]

Wondeful video Robin

[@christinecoughlan4699]

Thank you Robin .

[@robinwong]

Cheers

[@kevinlui8601]

Can’t help but to notice that nice Garmin watch on Robin’s wrist.. 😅

[@seaeagles6025]

Hi Robin, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Sony alternative camera. It takes great pictures, its light, and has a tilt screen. I like the sound of it, and it was enjoyable to use. You were happy shooting with this camera, and i would say it's a Pocket Rocket 🤣. Thanks Robin for your positive attitude. 😊.

[@robinwong]

Thanks, appreciate the kind words. Pocket rocket it is

[@seaeagles6025]

@@robinwong Your welcome Robin, thankyou 😊

[@flagger2020]

Did a photo walk tonight with this lens and a nex 3n. Almost one handed operation like GR but rear dial is not as nice as rocker on back of Ricoh, and play button on top of sony is a stretch. But Sony has a flash like original GR. Over all an a nice package for general use if you can stomach the Sony menus. The nex6 in Robins vid has better dials and a good evf. Wish Ricoh would add one or add a port like on the gx100/200.

[@olegyakovlev6275]

Robin, thanks for the video, nice shots! if to compare quality of a5100 and nex6, which one is better in your opinion? and interesting to know your opinion on sony rx100v vs ricoh gr3 comparison especialluy for low light conditions

[@deanrobertnoble138]

I recently bought one used to make use of the manual TT Artisan lenses. Unfortunately, the main dial had issues with the contacts. The labeling would be off and didn’t align with set mode. It would then change modes on its own. I could have maybe got it serviced or cleaned but i thought it best to return it as it could have been a world of pain. I really did love the camera though. Just that it is a an older cam and obviously subject to issues of this sort. I did then find an A6300, a little newer that fulfilled the need. The sensors in most of the Sony Apsc cameras are very similar though.

[@robinwong]

Yeah the newer cameras of course can work very well too. Just not as "budget" as the older NEX-6

[@ggwildlife]

nice video Robin a great alternative.

[@robinwong]

Indeed, we don't have to break the bank to enjoy photography

[@marcp.1752]

Nice video as always, Robin "Let's do this...." 🙂 Nowadays, the NEX-6 (2012) costs around 170-220 EUR, depending onto the condition - and the TTA 27/2.8 is also around ~130-180 EUR, depending onto the store - *BUT* i have to tell you something - the 27/2.8 TTA isn't quite as good, as the 7Artisans 27/2.8 AF seriously - i can tell you, because i have both lenses. 😀 I'd always consider the 7Artisans 27/2.8 AF for the Sony, or any other Sony APS-C NEX/A6x00, because the TTA 27/2.8 AF isn't this great. Both are being firmware-upgradeable. Last, but not least - the 7Artisans 27/2.8 AF matches the Sony body design much better, and could being found only for as low as 109 EUR, instead, the TTA 27/2.8 AF is optically worse, and at least some 30-50 bucks more expensive, usually. I'd say, the TTA 27/2.8 AF is much better suited onto a Fujifilm body, from design. The 7Artisans 27/2.8 AF is better onto the Sony, albeit the lens is a bit bigger, and needs a lens hood, like the TTA lens also. Hint: Nikon's 40/F2 Z mount lens hood as 3rd party hood is 1) really cheap 2) fits perfectly the design from the 7A 27/2.8 AF lens.

[@PrasannaDash]

I would say that this Ricoh alternative punches way above it's weight. So many features that Ricoh lacks and at so little price. Thanks for this video Robin. I would appreciate if you can review a Sony RX100 VII alternative.

[@robinwong]

I don't think there is any alternative for that

[@PrasannaDash]

@@robinwong What are your views on Panasonic ZS100/200? RX100 series shares a lot of key features like 1 inch type sensor, >=200 mm zoom, tilt screen, view finder etc. with the Panasonic one. I haven't used any of them and din't find any meaningful comparison from wildlife shooting persepective.

[@shojunichi]

I have the Sony A5100, no EVF but works great as well! 😄

[@robinwong]

Sony A5000/6000 series cameras are quite awesome too

[@neilmontgomery3470]

Very impressed by the image quality. I have the TT Artisans 27mm on my Fujifilm xt30. One thing I noticed is the vignette when I shoot at wider apertures. Just wondering did you shoot at smaller apertures as I didn't notice any vignetting in your excellent photos? Or did you edit your photos to remove the vignette?

[@robinwong]

Most of the photos were taken wide open, and yes there were some vignetting I noticed, but nothing too severe.

[@kicyiu]

Nice video Robin. You forgot to mention two more advantages. Auto focus and build in popup flash. I'm using the same combination with the A6000. And personally to me they are much better option than a Ricoh GR for street. They are not pocketable but I don't mind because I don't like to put cameras on my clothes pocket anyway

[@robinwong]

The AF on the NEX-6 isn't anything to shout about. The flash is good to have, but not a deal-breaker.

[@kicyiu]

@@robinwong how is the Nex 6 AF compared with the Ricoh? Haven’t tried yet, but people say is not that great either.

[@jensfriedrich3269]

Hey Robin, thanks for the sharing. I was looking into the nex seriens but bought the pen EPL 8 with the 17mm /25mm / 45mm for a very good price used. Do you think the nex is the better option or the pen? Thanks a lot for your opinion Jens from Germany

[@klik64]

had a nex6 for years, use it all the time. i put the images though lightroom with a portra skin and bingo. i'm interested in those artisan lenses.

[@robinwong]

the TTArtisans is so compact, and cheap too

[@StanNoteboom]

Robin are you using a saturation setting on the camera, or do you punch up the saturation in post-processing? The colors in your sample images just look extra saturated to me. Trying to understand what the standard photo profile in terms of colors is for this camera. Thanks for showing me this camera.I can afford many cameras but I agree this looks to be a good entry camera with room to learn on. Someone who wants to make photography like we do know it’s about making the best with what you have got. Your photos demonstrate that if someone understands light, color, and composition they can take good photos with any camera. Save your money buy wisely on the used market. I have several great cameras that were once the flagship camera of one brand of another that I picked up for a fraction of new and still worth it. 😅

[@robinwong]

I shot everything in RAW and did minor post-processing. I did not touch the color at all.

[@ezekielkokspeaks]

Awesome combination Robin. Nice shots of msia. Does it have to be Nex6? What about 3 or 5

[@robinwong]

Thanks. Nex-6 has a EVF

[@rhykko77]

Greetings Robin ! Have you ever had a gallery show of your work ? I am a long-time fan of both your comentary and your photography and opinions on photography.

[@robinwong]

Did you mean exhibitions? Yes I have had exhibitions in the past. Not planning on doing anything soon, it is just too much work!

[@rhykko77]

@@robinwong Yes exhibitions .....Thanks !

[@balu130164]

You are so right. 👍

[@robinwong]

Cheers

[@charanteja1944]

Great Video. May I know if you applied any preset to the photos as the color in the photos look really amazing. I am sure sony doesn't have that amazing color straight out of camera

[@robinwong]

I don't use presets. Images were shot in RAW and minor post-processing applied.

[@wosl85william]

i agree with u, $1000 is about RM4400, which is really a lot for average Malaysian.

[@matt_4terry]

I have this very camera and lens combo. The TTArtisan 56mm works flawlessly but the 27mm won’t autofocus. I’m so bummed because I wanted that small compact combination to toss in my backpack.

[@robinwong]

That's strange, myself and many people in the comments have NEX-6 and the 27mm lens works fine.

[@matt_4terry]

@@robinwong Well I even went to update the lens firmware and TT Artisan software updates don’t even support Macs. Why would a lens manufacturer not support Mac for software updates? Pretty lame. Anyone want to buy a 27mm lens? Mine is useless to me.

[@w0lfyovi294]

This gets me curious about the old Samsung NX1xxx series which has a 3.7 inch back screen or the NX1xx series which has better magnesium built quality. Samsung had some really great pancake primes, a 30mm f 2, a 16mm f 2.4 and an amazing 10mm f 3.5 fisheye pancake.

[@robinwong]

If Samsung is still around today, we will get better integration with smart devices!

[@w0lfyovi294]

@@robinwong No doubt, Samsung had the best Wi-Fi implementation, they had one of the easiest and sleekest UI and more Android integration.

[@xmeda]

@@robinwong It is sad that Samsung decided to leave camera market. They created one mighty APS-C sensor back in 2008 that was introduced in Pentax K20D at that time which was my first DSLR :) It was 14.6Mpix CMOS with Live-view. As processors evolved that sensor was later used in Pentax K-7 (added full video support) and in several Samsung cameras released years later. When K20D was introduced, it was APS-C camera with largest resolution, Canon had EOS 40D with 10Mpix and Nikon had D80 also with 10Mpix. Only FF Canon 1D line had 14Mpix at that time! Then later of course Canon introduced EOS 50D with 15Mpix and Nikon introduced D90 and D300 both with 12Mpix CMOS and also Live-view. Samsung also created mighty 28Mpix APS-C CMOS that had highest resolution until much later Canon EOS 90D was introduced. And Samsung NX1 was a beast in more areas. Their hybrid AF system was very advanced. That thing also had 15 FPS @ 28 Mpix back in 2015! and 4K video. Of course sealed body with tilting LCD and WiFi. It is still quite capable when compared to many modern cameras today.. If Samsung was still around, the would probably rival Fuji with resolution now and provide some healthy competition for Sony sensors. Also their AF was brutal even 9 years ago. Imagine what they could have used nowdays.. But NX system had one issue - no IBIS. Which was strange, because before NX system they used Pentax clone DSLR cameras that obviously had IBIS like GX10 and GX20.

[@wandercyclist]

nice video. I like my Fujifilm X-E1 with TTArtisan 27mm

[@robinwong]

That Fuji XE-1 now is anything but a budget camera!

[@stephanedubarry8624]

Excellent

[@robinwong]

Thanks

[@crashcommander]

Managed to get a NEX6 with a 16-50 kit lens for less than than £150. I’m going to challenge myself to use the original purchase price as a budget to get two prime lenses.

[@phucpham2117]

i hope you can make a video about the camera on sharp aquos r7

[@robinwong]

Sure, if someone sends me one.

[@xavieryuen6867]

thanks!

[@robinwong]

Cheers

[@johnwong8323]

Hi Robin Is the NEX 6 an E-mount camera ?

[@IliasKoureas]

I love the TTartisan 27mm. I use it a lot. But this combo feels nothing like the ricoh in terms of image quality. Only the size is the same. But i get the point and i enjoyed the video sir. Many people can enjoy this combo 😄

[@robinwong]

Of course the Ricoh is going to be better. It also costs so much more.

[@sebastiandavid8677]

I wish with all the different camera combinations that I could find one to rule them all. The sony A6500 came close, but among other things it doesn't have a selfie screen or fast flash sync speed. For that I end up using my Nikon d70s or P7800. There is the G9 for 10bit video and ibis, D810 for pixel count, sensor and dynamic range. Casio ex-z750 for size; I don't always want a zoom lens to slow startup though. G85 for unlimited video time. Z6 for autofocus in a fullframe. Em5 and em5 mkii for because I got a good deal. A lot of overlap. If the Canon G1x had a better viewfinder and no extending lens that would be cool. I know my list of needs/wants is unfair......I would like to get rid of some cameras and just have the one tool.

[@robinwong]

There is no one camera that can please everyone, so we pick and choose what works for us and our own needs best.

[@larsgraulo478]

Nice Video! Is there also The possibility Of a 28mm (FF) Prime Lens ?

[@robinwong]

There are so many full frame 28mm prime lenses out there

[@leckywoznicki5393]

Thank you :)

[@robinwong]

Cheers

[@Nantawat_Kittiwarakul]

I believe that even the smaller / older model NEX-5N (inherited from my late dad a decade ago) could be considered too. Sure enough image quality is no competition with today's camera, but if the destination of your taken images is your social account it is more than adequate. (99% of images taken will ONLY be viewed on cellphone/tablet screen, let's face it.😆) No evf of course but you get even smaller form factor. Hence for point&shoot / street photography this still counts. Personally, when added with its sentimental value this little camera will stay with me till the last day - for sure.

[@robinwong]

I'd really miss the viewfinder on NEX-6 though!

[@Nantawat_Kittiwarakul]

@@robinwong Only if I can find the optional evf for my NEX-5N , that would be all I ever need. But since that is just as rare as hens' teeth (and even more expensive than the camera itself!😮‍💨), so my journey continues...

[@foteeto]

I’ve betrayed the m43 family Robin… switched to Sony a6400 for the animal eye AF 😢. But I’ll get this lens for a Ricoh alternative!

[@robinwong]

The TTArtisans is such a cheap lens, you can't go wrong. It isn't pro grade quality, but you get a lot for what you pay for.

[@rodmehta5356]

Hi Robin!

[@robinwong]

hi wassup

[@happy030]

Wow! So I do own the Sony a5100, it is also small size, even smaller than my Fuji X-100 VI. Maybe I should consider it as my dayly shot N gun fun Camera?

[@robinwong]

Why not? Give it a try

if you need better dynamic range and resolution nex-7 is a alternative... i thing one of the best apsc sony body ever.

[@robinwong]

Resolution yes. Dynamic range, about the same.

[@Govinda_005]

This guy is awesome

[@robinwong]

Thanks

[@JimIBobIJones]

The issue with recommending the Nex 6 is that its not really much cheaper than either the A6000 or the a5100. For $50 more you will get vastly superior autofocus and a much faster processor. I can't image any scenario where the Nex 6 is a better pick than either of the above.

[@SzymonPytel]

Im still using nex6 successor a6000, got few :P Im perfectly fine of doing wedding with a6000, its got better caf then my em1mk2s :) and its small cameras. And camera is cheap. Its my vacation, walk option and work option if other newer option fails :)

[@robinwong]

A6000 has poorer AF than E-M1 Mark II, that I have tried and verified. Maybe you did not optimize the settings for E-M1 Mark II?

[@shogun4612]

Price in UK - Sony Nex6 240£ + TTartisan 162£

[@Mr_Huynh]

Ở thời điểm hiện tại 4/9/2024 tại việt nam, giá body sony nex 6 ~200USD

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing my friend. I'd like to add that a 200$ camera is a budget alternative to any camera that costs more than 200$😀

[@robinwong]

Sure. Except this $200 dollars budget alternative does a few things BETTER than the $1000 camera. Which makes it an EXCELLENT alternative.

[@giuseppepetenzi]

Nex 7 too!

[@robinwong]

Not sure why but almost impossible to find here in Malaysia

[@cemam1950]

For elderly eyes, the EVF is a must.

[@martingreenberg870]

Not only for old eyes like mine. On bright days working with the LCD can be difficult. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@robinwong]

Yeah I need the EVF too

[@milunacodes]

Price aside, I think for the size/quality it is better to have an EP5 with a 17mm f1.8

[@rachsounds]

Hi Robin, what are your thoughts on the OM systems tough tg-7?

[@Yoko.Kurama]

It's the tg6 with usb c charging

[@robinwong]

No thoughts. Never had one

[@K7.2023]

i dont shoot sony! I only shoot MFT!😅 and never wanted a ricoh over priced camera!😂😅

[@trels203]

Selling yourself short then

[@robinwong]

You can choose and shoot with whatever you want.

[@hisoka9478]

Great cam, but you can't put this cam + lens in your jeans pocket.

[@hardridebkk9026]

no no no, i ll stick with E-PL7 first alternative from your advice hahaha

[@robinwong]

That is also a good alternative, as mentioned in this video.

[@nix123ism]

I have,had lots of m43 cameras , I bought a sony a6000 with a 16-50 pancake and 50mm f1.8 as a kit second hand and was very impressed with it, it takes better photos than any of my m43 cameras and is fairly compact as well

[@robinwong]

The pancake kit lens is quite a poor performer, and the 50mm F1.8 isn't anything to write home about. Any dedicated Micro Four Thirds lens can smoke them two no contest.

[@lichtloper]

No 4:3 image ratio visible in VF

[@robinwong]

Not a dealbreaker, the native aspect ratio for that camera isn't 4:3

[@lichtloper]

@@robinwong 4by3 is my preferred ImageRatio

[@awanluna]

rm500 for nex6 is super cheap..u can consider lucky if you can get nex5 for that price nowdays.

[@fengsun7164]

3：15 第一次看见您的眼睛

[@zoltanvarga1967]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@robinwong]

Cheers Zoltan

[@GeorgeStar]

The GR & x100 are just cult cameras for clueless photographs who want to jump on a bandwagon. So many better options like this, also consider the 5100 with 24MP sensor - smaller, lighter but no EVF.

[@robinwong]

The GR and X100 are excellent cameras, if you can afford them. If you can't, there are cheaper alternatives too

[@cesarurrea5342]

Thank you for this advice. Robin maybe some day you teach us how to edit your photos like you do 😊.

[@robinwong]

Get it right in camera, and do minor post-processing.

[@HR-wd6cw]

Another (perhaps easier) alternative is the a6000 (whichI've seen for as low as about $250, but that's the body only). But it will work with all modern E-mount lenses as a result (the NEX I'm not sure if it's completely compatible with all modern E lenses or not).

[@robinwong]

A6000 costs about USD500 here in Malaysia used, body only. Pairing it a lens would make that USD600, not exactly a budget option anymore.

[@waterthaimelon]

Sony don't have a good pancake lwns😢

[@robinwong]

TTArtisans 27mm F2.8 is pretty good

[@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x]

No ibis or ois, not really great

[@Dapno_]

But there is not really a need, is there? Can't think of a situation where going below 1/60th is really necessary for the purposes of this setup.

[@LDN_BOX]

I usually shoot with a Fuji XT30 which is pretty compact. I bought the pancake lens but even then it wasn't what I would deem as pocketable. Thought about my use case and re-bought my old Lumix LX10/15 - which I love. Although, the 1inch sensor maybe scoffed at by some, that doesn't effect it's day time use and it's f1.4 with outstanding results. For evening where you can afford to be less candid, I love my FujiFilm 35mm f1.4 lens. I was put off by the lack of tilt on the GRIII and it's f2.8

[@martingreenberg870]

The Fuji XT30 is a winner. It just isn’t as small and cheap as the Sony Nex6. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@LDN_BOX]

@@martingreenberg870 I was walking about the Lumix LX10

[@LDN_BOX]

@@martingreenberg870 I wasn’t talking about the XT30, that isn’t my choice to go against a GRIII. I love my XT30 but as a pocketable daily carry, I bought a Lumix LX10 which is tiny and f1.4. Image quality is outstanding. The drawback is at night, but I have my XT30 and 35mm f1.4 for that and you don’t have to be as candid at night

[@robinwong]

Both the Fuji and Lumix options cost a lot more than the old budget Sony though!

[@LDN_BOX]

@@robinwong I paid £280 for the LX10 on eBay with two leather cases and three original batteries in MInt condition. You can likely find it even cheaper! I bet the Sony plus a lens comes in for more! In addition, I bet the Sony and lens isn’t pocketable which is the whole point of the GRIII and my LX10 choice

[@zdrang8893]

Why is this an alternative, it has none of GR's strong points?

[@robinwong]

Because it has none of GR's weak points.

[@Yoko.Kurama]

Too big to be an alternative

[@robinwong]

Big enough to solve the dust problem in the small GR III/X

[@Sparky.07]

[@emeraldisland2023]

Never mind the camera, I want Jillian’s phone number.