This Christian Thought He Had a Point

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[@regularpaul8142]

The kid was busy trying to “sound” intellectual. Instead of actually being intelligent.

[@Assyaroni]

😂 that's harsh bro

[@jamalabdulmajid5815]

Maybe he still not yet graduated in the 'academy' of how to trick muslim, thats why hes over exited

[@xeeebon]

Difference between Christians and a knife is that knife has a point

[@oliverkent8429]

islam has a gun

[@FarhanMehmood]

@@oliverkent8429 islam is logicsl and christianity isnt.

[@ozt1194]

@@oliverkent8429yeh who starts all the wars .. Christians

[@mohamedkabalan-fg6hm]

@@oliverkent8429 that doesnt even make sense nor does it relate to the play on words by the original comment. wow, just when i thought you people couldnt be less intelligent.

[@reptilespit4433]

Suits your intelligence to say that​@@oliverkent8429

[@nicholashoneycutt]

Bro i lauged so damn hard when dude just keep repeating his, " 6,000 manuscripts..😂😂"

[@hashakahwantstorepent.4176]

muh 6000

[@Barely___Editing]

Couldn’t name ONE JUST ONE LIKE DAMN. Speaking out his rear end.

[@melo2726]

man I think he is in love with Julius Caesar not gonna lie

[@jz4087]

What did you have for breakfast? 6000 manuscript! Wtf...

[@tbonesteakchuckroast]

@@jz4087 oh so you were the jerk who ordered the 6000 manuscript breakfast that I was going to eat.

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

What is your name? Answer:I was born in India in 2024.

[@UnchainedSlave]

Man why India specifically🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jz4087]

😂

[@HH_1988]

I dream of the day when I won't see that word on the Internet.

[@DawahDigest]

This is probably the most painful thing I've watched. 🤦

[@abdalmalk_kasem]

yeah right??

[@hungaman1]

this guy is so dishonest lying through his teeth. Sounds like someone who is giving a book report but didn't read the book.

[@2212funkyfresh]

Perfect explanation because I was always an awful student until Allah guided me to Islam Alhamdulillah

[@aimanbabahmed7449]

​@@2212funkyfreshalhamdullillah. We love you for the sake of Allah.

[@mtmurray2330]

Nailed it

[@2212funkyfresh]

@@aimanbabahmed7449 I love you too, for Allahs sake, may He protect you and accept your prayers and fasting and reading of Quran Ameen

[@esrefcelebi]

He's not lying through his teeth. He is ignorant like hell and doesn't have any idea about what he is talking about. He's just chewing the stuff that he heard hear and there.

[@ethanfaindar2588]

Hamza: where i can find in the bible about those things? Ryan: hamza please, i dont read the bible, how supposed i know Me: 🤦

[@fartnight6057]

It''s hilarious to see how he was caught rehearsing before coming here to talk with Hamza.

[@micielago]

lol seriously

[@rakanal.2925]

I don't think its that "hilarious" he is nervous and if someone who isn't used for debate i feel its good thing to rehearse what is funny is he stick to his argument even though ut really not that relevant

[@christianforever1991]

1 John 4:3 3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

[@syedyaseenali5923]

Let's call him Rehearsals Ryan

[@Web-Anime-Manga]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@deffaizalalias4966]

sending love my brother from Muslim Philippines 🇵🇭

[@DrThrax009]

Salam Aleykum brother🇵🇭

[@ever1ast]

Yes brother Yes!

[@juliaabusaad1861]

I’m an ex Christian but even with my past perspectives I didn’t understand a word from Ryan 😅what was he saying? “Oh, yeah, as I said …” he repeated 50 times only! He is English speaker but he doesn’t know how to say one full sentence in it 😵‍💫

[@SeanR.L]

@juliaabusaad1861 May I ask how did you become a Christian?

[@juliaabusaad1861]

@@SeanR.L like most of the people in the world being baptized by my grandmother without permission of my parents at the age of 6. But I never believed Jesus as a god or Holy Spirit a god. Because I actually had read some part of the Bible in my childhood and btw it’s was the reason I didn’t believed that it was word of God the Creator on whom I always believed. You see even child can spot and recognize right and wrong. I wonder how adults can’t see it. So my main belief was more as a Muslim without I realized at that time. And it’s took a very long way bad full of sins living life before it was meant for me embrace Islam with a will and blessing of Allah the one Creator.

[@juliaabusaad1861]

@Regime36 exactly he tried to answer every single question with zero understanding of the question itself 😵‍💫

[@ElyasQuick1]

Islam is the only faith that can give you peace of mind, body and soul. Islam is intellectually satisfying, spiritually fulfilling and practically applicable.

[@reptilespit4433]

Go on, find us one inconsistency​ since it made you laugh @@-Fuzz-Buzz-

[@Insult2myIntelligence]

@@-Fuzz-Buzz- I dare you to find one verse

[@craigbuchan]

@@Insult2myIntelligence What about where it says the sun sets in a pool of muddy water?

[@abdullahorilonise4048]

@@craigbuchan You should read the verse before commenting - surah 18:86. It says he reaches a place where it appears to him like the sun is setting into a spring of murky. like how the sun rises in the east and sets in the west as direction, the sun setting into or behind something as location. we understand this to be a human-eye view. nothing illogical

[@KodaMoh42]

​@@craigbuchanat sunset it always appears like the sun sets into the water when I'm at the beach.

[@ShoaibAhmedNZ]

10 mins in and this is a total waste of time. Like kicking a puppy. He had no clue about anything.

[@Logician81]

But then claims he has wisdom. What a fool 😂😅

[@AyubKhan-md4km]

SubhaanAllah, Incredible level of patience shown by brother Hamza. May Allah (SWT) bless him abundantly for showing such Herculean patience in the face of a rambling nonsensical, deviant, arrogant individual

[@SpyrosLefkaditis]

Hamza man you're so patient. I felt like dashing my phone out the car listening to this guy

[@TruAbsoluteZer0]

FACTS

[@CottageGurl]

Fr and its so annoying..

[@ummulbanaat365]

Absolutely!! I am few minutes into the video and i dont think i can finish watching😢

[@nitabintipilong5332]

sooo confiuse christian...

[@osamaahmed573]

🤣🤣

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

The answer is, he doesn't have a bible.

[@CottageGurl]

Its so funny that he's a Christian but doesn't have a bible in his house..😂

[@faiyazkhan5970]

The saddest part is that he thought he won the "debate".

[@bobbyfizzle]

The level of waffle he came out with 😂

[@abdullahozturk9660]

Be a lot of Things, but don't be like this Ryan 🙏🙏🙏

[@IbrahimGonthier-gg2xb]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@waliesse3930]

I really don’t understand why someone would be so dishonest to defend so hard while they know the truth!!! That’s why Allaah says in the Qur’aan Allaah guides whom he wills

[@Barely___Editing]

6000 manuscripts the Bible is a summary….WHAT THE ACTUAL WHAT.

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

Brothers & sisters don’t be a Ryan 🥲😵‍💫😏

[@jynx-live4454]

I was in this livestream and Hamza went for a quick 5 minute break and he was talking to himself the whole time 😂

[@sophiem.579]

😅🤣🫣

[@ibnlahad2982]

This guy was wasting hamza's and ours time

[@Truth-Is-a-Hard-Pill]

Hamza: What's your name? Christian: For my breakfast I like oatmeal and soft boiled eggs along with banana milkshake. Hamza: What's your name? Christian: I like to go to the gym in the morning because that keeps me fresh and relaxed throughout the day. Hamza: What's your name? Christian: London is a fantastic place for work and leisure. That's why I live in London. One can live his or her life to the fullest here. It's a financial hub and has amazing night culture.

[@hashakahwantstorepent.4176]

give a christian an opening and they will start spouting without a stop 2:04

[@brotherlogicrmf2199]

Ryan, Ryan do you have your Bible with you? 6000 mania scripts 🤣🤣

[@quranicverses.2394]

Sam Shampoo and David Wood come get your boy

[@oliverkent8429]

Hamza be quaking if they did like in Hyde Park

[@rosdykalat2620]

@@oliverkent8429 So Sam "Wife Beater "Shamoun and David "Cross Dresser "Wood have been to Speakers Corner. Quaking like what Sheikh Uthman did to Sam and what Muhammad Hijab did to David Wood ??? hahaha...

[@syed758]

Ryan has a room temp iq

[@AshK1999]

😂😂😂

[@SupreemSPGamer]

That's very generous

[@rassicsiddik7439]

35⁰C?

[@ZohebDesai]

on a cold winter day....in Eastern Antarctic Plateau in Antarctica!

[@exotikz7905]

Think you’re giving him too many points.

[@amen5552]

2:07 The man literally referred to himself as two persons... He literally said that he was schizophrenic!! I think it's the only reason to believe in Christianity..

[@nazirmohamed1296]

Why these christians are embarrassing themselves

[@Logician81]

Because of cognitive dissonance===deaf, DUMB and blind

[@adnanmahmood8398]

Ryan is definitely high on something...

[@user-mi5ej3yt6n]

No,,Hi is bob the builder brother😂😂

[@ghiaspiracha302]

@adnanmahmood8398 ovoivoxxiv Senor This 'dude' believes he knows all there is to know...simply 'full of NOTHING, but hot air'. His non-stop yapping without listening, reflects his blind faith in history, meaning, he is braindead.....then they start dancing around, digress, not uncommon among most Christians. Becomes obvious when a dumb Christian answers a question with an irrelevant an diabolical question. "Hallelujah"......

[@tbonesteakchuckroast]

This guy has a thing for the Dead Sea scrolls lol 😂

[@amen5552]

And Caesar..😁

[@user-no8er1fh4w]

You don't need a radio with this guy just press the button and listen non-stop 😂

[@Assyaroni]

"Don't be a Ryan" That's a very wise advice from brother Hamza 😂

[@Noble_One]

or a ryanette 🤣

[@waqarafzal3922]

Alhamdulillah for Islam

[@MedyVlogs]

Ryan’s point he tried to make : 👉👉👉👉 . 👈👈👈👈 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@southviewarab]

He doesn't listen to understand, he's just loading up his next baseless response, he's THE WORST type of person to have any kind of disagreement with, these types of people are lonely.

[@mohammedalbatati5529]

Lesson for the day, don’t be a Rayan 😂

[@zaratustra6975]

Бедняга Райан...он даже не понял что с ним сделали...Хвала Аллаху за Ислам и то что я не Райан

[@Momo.786]

Ryannitis alert ⚠️ 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1:45

[@nemuitaka]

Ryantology = you can talk as much as you can about bible but No need bible in your home 😂😂

[@Assyaroni]

😂😂😂

[@teamcali9212]

Ryan is a prime example of someone that loves to hear himself talk about absolutely nothing but at the same time call whatever gibberish he's speaking true. Absolute nonsense

[@xeeebon]

Question : Why do you believe that Christianity is true? Christian Ans : well ,there are some scientist believe that man came from ape , that's why Christianity is true.

[@gadowourou8806]

He did not know that he did not know and that makes him a danger to the people around him.

[@moojza]

Bro was asked about the date of a manuscript and instead waffle offs about how the Bible isnt manuscripts after saying manuscript evidence proves Christianity. 😂😂

[@melo2726]

preacher mode on !!!! smh

[@omaralkammash9225]

My brain... I'm losing Braincells hearing to that!

[@amen5552]

Hamza: Where in the Old Testament is a prophecy that Jesus will die and resurrected after three days?? Ryan: Caesar conquered the world.. 😂

[@abdulqayyum-ct4to]

Q: where can i read about the "death" & "resurrection" of Jesus? A: yeah we have 6000 manuscripts & Julius ceaser conquest is true so the bible is true yup totally make sense 😂

[@essyaboii]

Wallahi I didn't have the patience to completely finish this video. I don't appreciate these disingenuous people coming on and over-speaking and not stopping when they are being told to stop. I don't want to hear a 3-minute *nonstop* waffle on why the sky is blue when the question was why is the grass green... Have the decency and respect for the mere fact that you are literally on someone else's channel and using up their valuable time - regardless of any differences of opinion. Jazakallah khair, brother Hamza. I admire your patience.

[@kristianmorelos2553]

You asked and he couldnt provide a single manuscript from the dead scrolls.

[@galgalimeyes91]

A:The ice cream is good where you buy it? B: there a lot of shop that sell it That all i listen in Ryan

[@bobbyfizzle]

😂😂 Pure waffle

[@photosbylogic]

Muslim lantern woulda dropped him 60 seconds into the conversation 😂😂

[@ahmedsharif367]

He him self doesn’t know anything about Christianity ✝️

[@kvasir3180]

Wow. Which chapter, which verse can hamza find that which you are claiming. This guy: "WELL, you see, you misunderstand the point, the bible is a summary." Hamza: Not the bible, the manuscript. The source that you refer to. This guy: "WELL, you see, you misunderstand the point, the bible is a summary."

[@yllbrahaj30]

Ryan: Me and my friends took pictures of Ronaldo yesterday. Hamza: Show me a picture. Ryan: Yeah but we took pictures. Hamza: Show me one picture. Ryan: But we saw him and took pictures. Hamza: Prove it with one picture. Ryan: But we have a whole album of Ronaldo pictures.

[@Tama_51]

So...These are the keyboard crusaders

[@EzioYuio]

Why does he keep answering questions that aren't asked of him?

[@teemadarif8243]

think he said he has tourettes syndrome

[@middleeastroads]

Any question you ask a Christian and the answer is surprisingly similar to the one you get when you ask them “ what is a woman? 😂

[@saaramuhammadhumayun5016]

He's like someone in a call centre with their script who can't stray from said script 😂

[@Sam-yj7rl]

Islam is the right way ❤

[@MrMaintainen]

🤦‍♂This was so hard to watch. Like watching a little animal getting eating by a snake.

[@UnchainedSlave]

Summary of session : Yeah so aagh wa so like I said the ya um we have tomb agh it's not complicated

[@Nahr9]

the american version of rob.

[@syad911]

bro was talking before he even joined the voice chat lmao, rehearsing like a robot he trained to do.

[@tkz28]

How are you doing Ryan? Ryan: 6000 manuscripts Julia Cesar

[@Momo.786]

0:58 1:00 to himself😂😅

[@user-zi8qe6tf9f]

نحنا اخواتكم من اليمن والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وامي واخوتي نستقبل عيد الفطر المبارك بالعبرٱت والدموع نحن في حاله لايعلم بها الا الله حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل في من اوصلنا الى هاذا الحال 💔💔وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ٩٦٧٧١٧٣٥٤٥٨٢+ (،) ''''''''''''''''''''😟''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين من تعز انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم00967717354582 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيررا`ااااااات يااارب ااا،اااااا،ا،ا،ااا،اااا،ا😢🎉😢😢🎉😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@jerrywilson1551]

My problem with his argument is he was bringing something up that has zero point to the argument

[@tat2547]

Just think of Ryan😂😂😂

[@Ninweyn2424]

This guy must be called Mr Yeah because everyone question asked he started answering it with the saying of Yeah lol 😂 lmao

[@abyllaamjah2170]

How Christian can be so confident for things they don't know and not even read?

[@popiop]

nothing to see, just your average redditor.

[@cartiace6522]

christian redditor lmao

[@maxmorris4562]

Questions: 9:45, 11:12 13:43 16:15 21:57, 24:32 25:35 30:54 32:35

[@johnpelter]

I don’t understand why Ryan is so confident.

[@aaronbriggs1296]

The dictionary says hello is a greeting in English. Where and what page does it it this? Normal human: page 12 This guy: you don’t get it there are 10,000 copies. Bro 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@talibin]

6000 correlating manuscripts 🤖

[@aalhashmi90]

Summary: 6000 manuscripts

[@AliMunirFarooqui]

Q:Hows the weather looking tomorrow A: Yeah 6000 manuscripts says we will have rain is bad for crops

[@taisirghazi2963]

6000 manuscripts.....6000 manuscripts.....6000 manuscripts.....etc😂😂😂

[@arabianknight0000]

That was absolutely painful to watch, but a perfect example of the trauma of listening to christians trying to explain their belief.

[@camilkanacevic1005]

This guy would be an ace in dodge ball with all the ducking and dodging he is doing! Hamza asked 1 specific question, and gave him a specific source to gather the information and this dodgeball champ was still able to avoid answering.

[@alikhawar520]

If God is the ultimate, the highest authority, then whom did he give the sacrifice of his own life to? Whom was he afraid of, if he didn't sacrifice himself? Why could he just not forgive human beings?

[@akbarbashar947]

Brother Hamza I love your patience my friend and I admire your calmness with people who just blabber on and on

[@thetruthseeker1234]

What the.....!!! He didn't answer any of the questions correctly. He gets Zero marks.

[@tin_k_oo]

Ryan's mouth has a slippery brake, can't stop :D

[@jawaadshahid]

Anyone who accuses hamza of being impatient should pay attention to how he acted during this interaction.

[@taisirghazi2963]

The Christian thought Julies Caesar can help him prove Christianity is right😂😂

[@romysudarsono1857]

I learn a lot from this video. Thank you.

[@jz4087]

What did you have for breakfast? 6000 manuscript! How was your day? 6000 manuscripts! Why did you do that? 6000 manuscripts! Are you coming over sunday? 6000 manuscripts! 😂 Wtf...

[@zubairrathore74]

Dead Sea scrolls and dead brain cells!got it!

[@jordanmichael7403]

Not a thing behind Bryan’s eyes 😭

[@aboutthat1440]

Dude absolutely embarrassed himself. That was a chore to listen to. WOW

[@maxmorris4562]

Summary: 5:04: 💭 Discussion on the reliability of multiple manuscripts in historical evidence and the impact of repeating a lie multiple times. 9:11: 💬 Misconception about the Bible as manuscripts, describing events and prophecies instead. Earliest New Testament manuscripts within 100 years of Jesus' death. 12:52: 💬 Debating the existence of non-New Testament sources on the life of Jesus Christ. 17:25: 💬 Debating the basis of Christianity and historical events like Julius Caesar's conquest. 21:14: 💬 Historical consensus on Julius Caesar's conquest questioned by non-expert. 25:11: ⚖️ Discussion on verifying historical claims and questioning biblical prophecies in the Old Testament. 29:17: 💬 Misunderstanding of the Bible's nature leads to debate on Jesus' resurrection prophecy validity. 33:16: 💬 Discussion on the significance of manuscripts in understanding the Bible and misconceptions around their origin and importance.

[@moh6233]

Ohh God.. This is so painful 😮‍💨

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

Mr.Hamza's knowledge is power packed.

[@malsi1504]

To read someone's mind and decide their purposeful obfuscation and refusal to understand the situation or question is to take a leap of uncertainty. It is not a true defeater. However, I've never seen Hamza this calm for this long. Rephrasing and repeating the same simple questions no matter how hard the guest tries to answer in different ways. To wait through all of the clear purposeful interruptions just to restate the question over and over again. It continuously removes more and more doubt that this person could have possibly been doing anything other than a purposeful decision to run from questions that he has determined to avoid due to weakening his position (he thinks this is a debate by his own admission), by being genuine or honest. To either recognize he made something up, or to avoid going a direction, in general, he has assumed will lead him to an obviously hole in his argumentation. This kind of running becomes obvious by the 10th time the same question is restated. Hamza could have blown a fuse so much earlier or ended the conversation, but this guy would have felt vindicated. Hiding behind his defense of hiding, he would narrate this situation as his victory in posing such an amazing argument it was the other person who had to hide and run. Disregarding his own purposeful thoughts of deciding blatantly to not answer for a particular reason... Do you recall throughout the video how much he stared at the screen and purposefully seemed to not notice when Hamza was speaking? Audio not loud enough? Something else on the screen other than hamza's mouth moving? (hopefully the camera feed was on his screen since he couldn't open any other apps such as your bible app). What happened when Hamza had to mute him? Without missing a beat, without moving his eyes towards a new symbol or red circle/mic, he seems to have simply "heard" hamza IMMEDIATELY say alright I have to mute you. Interesting how quickly he stopped talking. It's a miracle when pretending you can't hear won't help, you simply don't try to pretend you can't hear. maybe.... Patience allowed this guy to spend 30 minutes doubling down on destroying himself. Increasing his stress to the point that his condition became a further self difficulty. breathing and sitting still became laborious. I know he said he has tourettes... but I'm trying to remember, what was it that happens to those with tourettes the more they get stressed? I can't remember... how does that effect the physical manifestation of the snydrome? Does it it... increase its apparency by any chance? I have a panic disorder, and I otherwise would further uncomfortable for him seeing his confrontational anxiety increase so rapidly and bring his issue out further, but I sincerely believe that if you're ever panicking due to the insistency on dishonesty, it is perhaps a deserving time to reflect and learn to avoid at-will deceit.

[@rajababy2009]

I think this guy is autism spectrum

[@Numeral0]

"if the sun shines everyday then we conclude that the bible is based on truth" 😆

[@KtKo0t]

Hi, sir, how was to food? "I got you, well, yeah, so, the Dead Sea scrolls . . ." 🙃

[@themerneptah]

this guy needs manup

[@user-zq1cm5ce2v]

Are the manuscripts separate from the Bible. If not,why aren't they included in the Bible.