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[@kjetilhvalstrand1009]

This will be maximized for profit, not for people’s wellbeing.

[@Kinioria]

Yeah, naivly thinking that the CEO of Bumble has our succesful love life in mind :D

[@Kissed1982]

And exploitation of your character profile. Her last name is wolfe. I’ll let you guess what heritage that is and where your data will go

[@kirishima638]

Of course.

[@BillyBowlster]

I was going to say it would save time and hassle the way she explained it, but when it comes to real world it mostly comes down to how much they can squeeze out of your wallet.

[@joeavreg2254]

I'm waiting for this but for Eugenics types. Elite breeding or something creepy as fuck. 23&Me buys out Bumble and now you have to present a genetic history of your whole family.

[@dadsbarmy254]

Sounds like a new way for narcissist and psychopaths to scan the internet for victims.

[@liamoconlocha3264]

Just one narcissist?

[@RocketRenton]

[@ZawieHa]

@@liamoconlocha3264 Oh, c'mon. So petty.

[@outy01]

Found one!!!

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

"at this point being happily married must feel like having had the morning off from your job at the twin towers on 9/11" This is not even an understatement

[@snipelite94]

That's nice. Do you both agree, you're "happily married" though ? Does she have a dating app on her smartphone?

[@Hvantmiki]

I'm happily married and been for about 15 years and it does feel like that

[@RedGorillaLFC]

Welcome to Asain arranged marriage - AI = auntie intervention

[@anxiouscucumber9]

😂😂

[@Retalak]

These apps make more profits the longer you are not in a healthy relationship. Do not fall for it.

[@joeavreg2254]

But that's the amazing part of this. Now they can say our magic love goblin has concluded, in conjunction with the other person's magic love goblin, that you are incompatible in seconds. Think of all the extra work I can do for my capitalist boss while I am not engaging in human activities.

[@crumplepunch312]

"Wolfe Herd" is such a perfect name for a corporate executive, a satirist couldn't do better.

[@ronstephen-wy4ib]

The simulation stopped trying as hard and now picks the people's names based on a parody of their jobs.

[@georgesos]

She is a scammy tech sister. Thts all. I am with Aaron on this.

[@steveharrison76]

Do not call this fucking algorithm a “dating concierge” Jesus Christ that’s utterly dystopian

[@guillermo.mserrano]

The idea is so sad. Instead of having the support and advice of real people (friends, family or therapists), we're being told to resort to a fucking AI. Black mirror. Nevertheless, Michael's point is very fair: dating apps are a dumpster fire, that AI might reduce the range of options and people won't be too picky and, as a result, lonely because nobody swipes them approvingly. However, I think the best choice is to ditch dating apps.

[@steveharrison76]

@@guillermo.mserrano oh, his take is sensible, considering the state of things - I meant no disservice to what he said at all. It’s the utter infection of each and every one of our personal relationships with people by fucking techbro apps and commercial doublespeak. Like, when you see a concert and everyone is filming it on their phones, that sort of thing. Why can’t we just hang out with people anymore and see how it goes? Given that’s the world we are in, I get what Michael said, but… Christ, I wish we could just be left alone to meet people on a dog walk or by the water cooler or at a bar with friends or something. And I get why this stuff is ‘needed’: we just don’t have the time, energy or money to go have fun with our community anymore. It’s more a heartsick cry for a past that was more connected and socialised, I wasn’t bashing Michael. He’s right. I just wish he didn’t have to be.

[@syriacchristianity9007]

Please don’t use the Lord’s name in vain.

[@steveharrison76]

@@syriacchristianity9007 you have literally NO IDEA if that was a genuine prayer or plea. You just assumed, as per usual.

[@syriacchristianity9007]

Eh?

[@user-lg8pp8gl2v]

Basically the government doesn’t have a deep enough profile on us! Edit: correction government and corporations

[@flannel2699]

For the most part, your average government is just another corporate department pushing favourable deregulation/legislation so really.. it's just corporations..

[@susim4503]

Aren't they the same thing now days?

[@daverock9091]

If anyone would think AI would give you a love life .... Please seek help ASAP

[@martinfiedler4317]

I want to seek out this help. Is FreudGPT already online?

[@MusMasi]

instead of using dating apps you might as well just make AI for people to date.

[@Neddoest]

@@MusMasioh that’s happening, too. Don’t you worry

[@harimauindia5775]

@@MusMasi already happened

[@Ashley.D]

This is just plastering over the problem that datings apps have tried to fix. We need more social cohesion to meet people organically through friends and happenstance, more socialisation and more third places

[@matt69nice]

Oh yeah because marriages over the decades before dating apps were so amazing and definitely not dysfunctional /s

[@martinfiedler4317]

Keep calm and do what the AI is telling you!

[@martinfiedler4317]

@@matt69nice And software has made that better?

[@matt69nice]

@@martinfiedler4317 no, I'm saying that people yearning to bring that world back lack perspective of its problems.

[@Kissed1982]

@@matt69nicewhat problems would be different than online? You’re still at a similar chance and it presents itself with a whole new set of problems

[@stephenbollich]

I call them "daemons." Like "The Golden Compass."

[@abundanz]

I think many people will fall in love with the concierge

[@fuckbankers]

Just like the psychiatrist

[@truthseeker7612]

😂😂😂😂

[@LilySaintSin]

This is so much like black mirror

[@Redsauce101]

I think with government programs like perimeter, PRISM, Tempora etc and first person killer micro drones, we've been in a black mirror episode for decades.

[@LilySaintSin]

Yeah, but this is specifically from Hang the DJ. @@Redsauce101

[@bozjennings]

Luddites don’t want to destroy all technology. They just want to destroy technology that subordinates people. Ludditism fits perfectly with the idea that the robot should take out the bins while you create art and work on your love life.

[@archie7218]

Well no the luddites was a reaction to job losses due to technology. So if former binmen destroyed ai bin collectors that would be analogous to the luddites

[@bozjennings]

@@archie7218 yeah. That crossed my mind too. But that would only be in a society where humans had to do the bins. Even with the looms etc., I don’t think the Luddites would have destroyed them if the workers got to participate in the profits.

[@reallymakesyouthink]

Putting the dating idea to one side, she's suggesting we take advice from an algorithm.

[@mats66]

Imagine that these AIs need to know an awful lot about you to do this properly. I would never ever share that information and my inner feelings with any company. Dystopian.

[@solveigmortensen2608]

grt point!!

[@TC8787-yq7og]

You already are if you’re signed up for KZbin

[@hanunyafa]

The commodity being sold in this market is not marriage, and we are not the customers. We ourselves are the commodity being sold in this market. Optimisation of sales results in maximisation of profit for the shareholders of the companies.

[@mgs_4k198]

Sometimes I feel like people don't give Black mirror enough credit. It has incredibly accurately predicted the near future.

[@execututor9954]

As the Twilight Zone did before it.

[@mgs_4k198]

@@execututor9954 haven't heard of this show before. What's it about?

[@KingswayRadio]

Although that episode showed this technology as being good, which at the time I was super disappointed by because I was thinking in our world there is no way this would actually work for the betterment of people. When the episode came out I was sat there thinking when is it all going to go wrong 😂

[@execututor9954]

@@mgs_4k198 Seriously? It's from the 1960's. It's all surreal spooky dystopian stuff. It's the inspiration behind Black Mirror. Check it out.

[@TC8787-yq7og]

@@execututor9954 came here to say this, Black mirror is a modern day rip off of the twilight zone. Some great episodes but also incredibly hit and miss and overly gratuitous violence and horror for the sake of it.

[@ryanvaze]

The first whole minute, i was waiting for clown planet music to start.

[@petehughes6266]

Michael hasn't watched Black Mirror?!? He really needs to get on it 😆

[@cndungu]

Facebook probably shared private messages to build this AI.

[@davidpowell6098]

Sold private messages.

[@moons4768]

Lots of married men register with the dating sites .

[@fuckbankers]

Nobody can afford to go down the pub anymore.

[@itseveryday8600]

Except it wont be AI, but employees in India doing the actual matching up, pretending to be AI. Just like Amazon walk-out stores.

[@biscuit4259]

So an Indian arranged marriage then?

[@MusMasi]

nice and close to pass your information off to scammers as well.

[@MartinJames389]

The corporate apology always amounts to "Oh shit we're going to turn people off and lose money". It is never in terms of "We are shallow people and vacuous wasters of our humanity. We will give it all up and do something socially useful with our lives instead."

[@itinkthereforeiiz]

Yeah "oh shit, we were trying to look clever, but our arrogance let the mask slip off for a moment"

[@Roberta-gl2by]

I keep repeating this because it makes me so cross. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AI. How do you think the computer calculates what it does (because that's ALL it does)? A human inputs parameters and a human says what sort of result it wants. This applies to everything any computer does, whether it's exams or dating or running a collider or GO or helping the IDF. This is a fundamental misunderstanding which is going to result in blaming computers for humanity's stupidity. A bit like blaming an Apple phone for our obsessions and insecurities.

[@patrickdegenaar9495]

Spot on michael! Before the 20th century, dating, marriages were arranged according to statistics - wealth, height, class etc. Then came dance clubs and people met randomly. However, dating apps essentially go back to arranged marriages! I.e. people decide on income, education, class, etc. So perhaps having an AI bring in randomness could be a positive thing. Otherwise, class divides will only worsen!

[@derekwhite2929]

We're all f*ckd!

[@simulacrum.ad.nauseam]

We were born skilless. Let's make it stay that way!

[@tarana9329]

I suspect we've come full circle and realised arranged marriages are actually pretty useful, especially if you aren't anything to write home about. Issue is parents and aunts are no longer bothered, so AI is the only option.

[@ChrispyNut]

Well, if it's "divided the internet", maybe Michael and Aaron need to use an A.I relationship counselling app, to bridge the divide 😜

[@za.307]

Call me old fashioned. You can have friends that you talk with. If you're using AI, you probably have other issues than finding a shoulder to cry on.

[@SuperDflower]

It’s a very damning comment on society in general. People shouldn’t be that lonely.

[@gb8628]

​@@SuperDfloweryup, but simple minds search for simple answers.

[@TwinRiver100]

9:32 that ad reminds me of this Pokémon ad from the 90s where the Bus Driver got a bunch of Pokémon and put them in a car compactor and squashed them into a a Gameboy. 😅

[@bevrek]

The ad is just a metafore. I like it.

[@poplarboydavid]

*Mr Bastani’s appraisal was intelligent and borne of sound knowledge and common sense!*

[@poplarboydavid]

It wasn’t a commercial disaster. It brought tons of attention to Apple iPad and it was all wrapped up perfectly, in a humble apology by the CEO (yeah, right! A strategic promotional stunt).

[@datfly3034]

Isn’t this a Black Mirror episode? ‘Hang the DJ’ (S4E4) has AI versions of people dating each other’s avatar in virtual reality.

[@Rachel_M_]

To be fair the Internet doesn't need encouragement to be divided...

[@ArdelR]

Dating apps just reflect society today, people want instant “everything” without any effort.

[@bendybruce]

Imagine a small group of friends with a common love for music forming a small band you have your vocalist, your bass player, lead guitar and they all head off to the local cafe and play a set of music to a delighted audience. Now imagine replacing all of them with an ipad pro. Apparently this is what Apple sees as the future we should all be lusting for.

[@LuzDoSol-yr5bv]

I am old fashion. Like handwritten letters, I asked my birds to send them through my window . 😂😂

[@jantonisito]

The idea is fucking BRILLIANT.

[@old_grey_cat]

Play the Apple ad backwards, and I think it is a better ad!

[@westvirginiaglutenfreepepp7006]

Arranged marriage sounds really good after this nonsense

[@a_s_dfghjkl]

it's giving moral panic

[@mick2d2]

"What are you doing tonight?" "I (my dating consierge) is going to the movies!" 😂 😂

[@alexlford]

Great Apple advert - really creative. It would also be great to see a trumpet advert bursting out of the iPad into the “real” world… it’s about using imagery to illustrate a message - I think it’s really effective.

[@DukGef]

Good advice like this makes me wanna run ... RUN!!!

[@pabs8345]

The irony of Apple's AI not predicting the fail out from their own destructive ad and using the same AI to find a partner is not lost on me.

[@Groundeyes]

You are totally right mate. This is actually a pretty good idea. It does sort out the mess we have with dating apps.

[@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT]

Just when you thought the world of human intimate relationships could not get any worse! I am DECADES out of the dating world, and it is one of many things for which I am immensely grateful.

[@ItsDannyGarg]

Whitney following the AI Herd

[@cdracos1]

Do a section on , Dr Phil interviews Netanyahu.....Infested with sickening propaganda and lies !

[@orkmad12]

Let's remember that these companies stop making money from you when you get into a long term relationship. This feature is not intended to help people find partners, otherwise they'd be putting themselves out of business.

[@jwfilmmaking7877]

This was literally the plot of a Rick and Morty episode

[@ericritchie6783]

Don't crush the tube TV! I love tube TVs!

[@Theslavedrivers]

What on earth is a 'Dating Concierge'??

[@rickin2g]

The pun is in the name - Artificial.

[@gillk6783]

It reminds me of the song "In the year 2525" what are we doing?

[@carolinetapia8568]

THANK YOU😄

[@TheSpoovy]

Let's hope that Apple ad is their bud light moment

[@fburton8]

Interesting point about war veterans and ptsd from Aaron.

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

It's not in the company's financial interest to present you with 3 perfect choices - rather 3 choices where each one has a major flaw so you come back to the app for more almost great, but definitely wrong choices, so you keep their income going...

[@AlexLoveLizard]

makes a sense to me. It’s just helping to sift data, it’s not making value judgments… just narrowing the overwhelming number of options that are far too numerous to process.. you don’t HAVE to follow its advice, you’re giving away zero autonomy.. as with all AI, its just another tool

[@leonjford]

I find the whole idea of an algorithm 'showing you what you want to see' very detrimental to character development. I've developed tastes and interests in things totally unexpected and unlike anything else I'd had before. That's how you grow as a person and become more interesting and better. A world in which you're only shown things similar to what you've expressed a preference for thus far is a sad and stale world.

[@bassekaman8315]

Good job Aaron turned up to work today

[@yt.personal.identification]

Welcome to conditioning

[@Lenniefinch]

Aaron has a point about learning what is and isn't for you. But for those of us that are so done with pointless dates this could be useful

[@mats66]

If the dates are pointless. Don't go on them.

[@archerversuslight]

"I want to date without having to date"

[@bobshuwab1988]

I think apple knew exactly what they were doing. The points Aaron raised underscored the ad idea; used to create controversy and get everyone talking about apple - just like people were before the big tech cynicism.

[@nicholaswatts1153]

Two excellent points, however, it's deliciously funny to imagine some people's horror to their matches, it takes a little courage to withstand the mirror.

[@AtheistEve]

Gives Moonie vibes.

[@marinamavrogenis4381]

I think it's definitely an interesting concept and I would venture to say for some, AI probably would select some good potential dates. I don't believe it should be categorized as "all bad" or "all good". That's just silly

[@hanunyafa]

You might think Apple would have noticed all those Kindles in the bin outside the new bookshop.

[@HGWaze]

Tech billionaires using black mirror as a instruction manual

[@011258stooie]

I would add a large dollop of 'arrogance' to Meredith Whittaker's appraisal.

[@arlettineharpy86]

It's really hard to accept that fact of having met my soulmate thanks to this horrible corporate woman

[@MattAngiono]

So glad you are talking about techno feudalism!

[@jameseglavin4]

lol Aaron’s friend was watching David Hoffman’s shorts on KZbin in the last few days

[@kthalas]

People can hate this as much. Yeah this is kinda sad but thats an emotional response we can have even a moral one but at the end of the day a lot of humans will lost themselves in this tools, we prefer pleasure and quick satisfactions over “Learning” over real risk, it’s natural, we didn’t had this temptation before but now we do, and only a cultural shift and will could kinda overcome all this integrated flaws.

[@merbst]

Also, how is the dating concierge AI any more dystopian than letting dating Apps match us any other way?

[@ghenulo]

I don't have a love life, so take your best shot, AI!

[@paulwoodhead5707]

It's like the film Her with Joachim Phoenix

[@TwinRiver100]

3:41 the way you describe the hyopthetical ai for dating apps, it sounds like Yenta from Fiddler on The Roof. By that I mean a matchmaker who's good at knowing people based on their likes, quirks and could just cut people down to maybe a top matches for who'd work best together. i'm not sure it's a perfect thing, and there's probably going to be a lot of dark side stuff. But i think it could be interesting. but one would need to REALLY prove its worth and work out a whole lot of issues and dark what ifs and continue to do so as something like this exists.

[@malectric]

I couldn't wait to read the comments. The mind boggles at what an AI dating an AI might come up with.

[@vKarl71]

This AI dating tech will give corporations an unprecedented level of personal information about users. When the mass of information collected really attains its full power people will be shocked at what society has become.

[@rasredi]

The last thing we need is even more reliance on machines to interact with our fellow humans.

[@helipeek2736]

“Dating concierge” or what can we call personal data mining of the most intimate details to make it them seem warm and friendly.

[@uniteddreamer]

The problem is what will they do with the data....

[@alexross5714]

Given that, in order to ensure the continued livability of our planet, we're almost certainly going to need to de-industrialize to a certain extent, I think Aaron's observation that there is a deep-seated pessimism about the role of big tech going forward (13:00) is a positive sign. The reason I say a degree of de-industrialization will be necessary is because it is becoming increasingly evident that the best-known "sustainable" technologies we've been hearing about, such as wind and solar, are not nearly as sustainable as we thought they were. I've been a climate activist for decades, and I definitely favor electrification as an alternative to continued reliance on fossil fuels, but it's not the silver bullet it's been made out to be, and we need to explore other options, like de-growth.

[@Cellem17]

21st century version of arranged marriages.

[@trulymental7651]

Brilliant idea, can't mess it up any worse than me 😂

[@donttrip8282]

It is a terrible idea. I am not anti AI, but people have to be more careful and less keen to trade in the human experience and connection. I agree with Bastini, it is a negative that removes opportunities to learn and grow.

[@vincentrockel1149]

We'll help you brainwash yourself at home .. confused? We'll make that even worse lol.

[@jordanwalker2804]

I think the only concern I have - beyond the typical sociology stuff - is how much data the AI can collect, interpret, share, and extrapolate. AI is trained by humans, so it collects human biases and could make certain assumptions.

[@execututor9954]

It would work well for hook-up apps.

[@IThinkItsMe]

Thre was no little chinese kids hopes and dreams in the crusher. Steve Jobs would have captured that.

[@danielsykes7558]

2:00 I honestly also was open to it. Maybe it's cause we're gay, lol.

[@Cinephileofmany]

It’s true. The apps actively to encourage you ‘trade up’ and keep on swiping. The filters are not helpful, so much as optimizers. Which is not good! One day I feel the dating apps will be a scandal that gets blown wide open in terms of its impact on society.

[@loquek]

I'm with Michael on this, and whilst it obviously could be seen as quite dystopian, I wouldn't let the extreme angles of it, or legitimate cause for care when using any service with your own data... scare you away from a reasonably cool use of LLM. Just make sure you know what you are doing when you interact with apps/companies