This could k*ll Killing Floor 3

[@FriendKevin]

"It's gonna be like killing floor 1" they said "it's gonna be scary" they said NOBODY ASKED FOR HERO STUFF

[@MADSLAYER47]

Killing Floor is NOT a hero shooter!

[@FullCaber]

dont separate perk behind characters i liked when characters where just characters :|

[@roquemacias4616]

I'm more concerned with my favorite perks being locked behind an annoying character lol But also, if there are a lot of cross-perk weapons, this might not be that bad. There are bad news and red flags all around this though and it's very disappointing

[@plagueman049]

Honestly yeah that's my biggest fear, that the perk I wanna run has a grating character. I grew up on hero shooters so I'm not completely and utterly floored by this character-tied-to-perk thing, but the character itself might bother me. Still, wish it was like KF2 where character and perk are independent, but oh well.

[@fitisdead8029]

I'm in this guys camp. I dont care as much about the gameplay changes. Its the fact characters are locked to certain perks that does it for me.

[@johnny2598]

I also don't like certain characters. I usually just pick Rob Briar and that's all

[@imbreadth11r5]

Considering one of the screenshots had a lot of objective trackers on the HUD, I hope they're not pivoting to "progressing through a linear map doing objectives" gameplay (a la Vermintide, L4D, DRG) and moving away from the wave-based holdout style of KF1 and 2.

[@drrayven]

Having both would be fun imo

[@edwardtrooper7027]

are hero shooters dying in players? Feels like Tripwire is hitching their wagon to a dying horse

[@redleemon740]

I'm devastated by the news. I could never expect THAT from TW. Was so hyped when the first trailer launched. Now completely disheartened...

[@maboilaurence8227]

I mean they did abandon Rising Storm 2, added MTX to KF2 while in early access and sold weapons for 10 dollars each with outsourced models and animations. I didn't have much trust left in Tripwire.

[@johnny2598]

They were bought by Embracer in 2022 so ...

[@jadkhalife3960]

ijust know that they are gona lock new weapons behind specific charakters and sell them to u as dlc

[@drrayven]

That would be the worst outcome

[@WEIRDxGRIM]

So my standard build on medic of boomstick + medic smg and then auto shotgun + medic rifle is gone.

[@IGoByBeastbb]

i hope thats your solo cause if not you a bad healer heal thrower for the win

[@maboilaurence8227]

The hero stuff is awful... but what about those animations and ragdolls? They look significantly worse than early access KF2, a 2015 game. I want to believe that it's a work in progress...but the game is releasing in march 2025, that's a bit too soon.

[@drrayven]

To be fair, the gameplay trailer did say it was early alpha footage, so it most likely is going to be better for the release.

[@maboilaurence8227]

@@drrayven Last time someone said that they were referring to Payday 3...look how that turned out. I don't trust anybody who tells me "it will get better", 99% of the time it never does.

[@drrayven]

@@maboilaurence8227 well that is true, but I'd like to think that wont happen again

[@Mondainai]

The old longhaired head dev guy that was fired a few years ago for a non-leftist tweet was the gun guy. For KF2 they spent lots of extra time, animated all the gun animations, reloads etc. in 240fps so they would always looks smooth and great, even in slow mo. I'm 100% sure these newage devs don't even know that and will not replicate it.

[@johnny2598]

​@@MondainaiRemember how old CEO lost his job for a tweet related to abortion law

[@sarunotaslt]

censors word kill doesn't censor KILLING floor

[@drrayven]

KZbin knows "killing floor" is a game, it recognizes it as such in the description of the video. But just the word "kill" by itself can trigger problems with KZbin.

[@sarunotaslt]

@@drrayven God modern youtube is such a joke

[@julios999]

I particulary dont mind at all. I played KF1 when it came out all to kf2. And actually early on people would tend to pick certain character based on their perk. Now, the reason I think this can be good, aside from the bad of losing that charm in older games: pick your character and your perk/class, is that it mgith help a lot in perk balancing. Which was pretty complicated in kf1 and 2. Now if each major perk arquetype is divided in multiple characters it might bring back the hardcore difficulty kf1 had and kf2 needed. KF2 in terms of AI was fantastic for an AA game, for sure, but the difficulty was toned down compared to early kf1 (pre-demolition perk).

[@IGoByBeastbb]

I'm noticing in the comment section that a lot of people are mentioning Killing Floor One and they're saying they don't like the futuristic tone and stuff and want to go back. but I don't think any of you realize that the story needs to go forward so of course weapons are going to get more futuristic and all that stuff. for those freaking out that they're only going to have futuristic weapons i doubt that Killing Floor 2 had the futuristic weapons and regular weapons Killing Floor 1 even had a couple of futuristic weapons so to have your main complaint be something so trivial and that makes sense to the game seems dumb to me. now the other thing is the big hero shooter part personally as long as they keep the game play as you versus Waves of enemies I don't think I'm going to have a problem with that. the thing I would hate is if there's a bunch of bugs or the games is unbalanced and things like that

[@POINED21245]

I run only DJ Skully on every KF! That decision to bound character and perk is stupid at least.

[@johnny2598]

Rob Briar here

[@gigfoster4017]

Mr. Foster here

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Lt Masterson here

[@ecoterrorist]

Its going to have DEI, bet you ANY money

[@johnny2598]

That's for sure

[@Neo-gz5dp]

Tripwire give a shit about Community opinion in KF2 so i dont have much hope for this one … i think they wanna make this Game more Mainstream 🙄 KF3 could be one of the best „Zombie“ shooters but my Hype now after all this Informations is pretty gone

[@percy.549]

i blame embracer. they always gotta fuck something up, like saints row

[@mixmakmax2847]

Seems like nothing but some way to introduce more micro-transactions, shame.

[@jonathanwatson4484]

locking a character behind a class is not gonna work out well, it would be fine if you can pick a speclist role and then pick a character, that way it would work out. since you can play Mr foster as a firebug or a commando and it easy to switch since you can just click a button to switch roles. I do have some good to say, having a class is kind of a fun idea, since the article said depending on the spaclist would have various tools, for example with movement if you where a commander you would have a zip wire, which promotes the idea that commanders are often team carry's, since they also get a neat drone that can provide support fire, or maybe berserker has a unique long jump, and can taunt enemies or throw brick at ZEDs, making each role unique as it brings it own strength and merits. I think trip wire can easily fix this issue, and I have a guess they are playing it safe since they may want to see what people think about hero shooter, however as I said early locking a character behind a class will not work, keep the game unique, as if you want people to talk about your game, you got to make it unique.

[@drrayven]

I think that the new movement (including zip lines) are a general thing, and not class dependent. Could be wrong tho. Also I personally don't like the idea of ultimates in the game. What set kf apart from other games is that it generally requires more skill to be successful, and having an "oh shit button" doesn't fit the game at all.

[@jonathanwatson4484]

@@drrayven good point, I guess the one thing to fix it is to have a demo, so that tripwire can test player feedback and figure out how to meet in the middle.

[@MedicinalThicc]

@@drrayven We called the oh shit button having a medic or throwing a nade!

[@ChaosPootato]

Well that kinda sucks. Freedom of build was a strong aspect of KF

[@sarunotaslt]

It's funny how tripwire find a way to make killing floor worse with each iteration

[@IGoByBeastbb]

wut 2 is way better then 1 LIKE WAY BETTER but i do love them both

[@valentinnoonspecial]

I feel betrayed..

[@EXTREMEYAMUM90]

im down for 'hero being the role' type of game if they leaned into it greatly but its sure not what people are expecting and as you said will limit freedom. im sure it might get changed

[@johnny2598]

Overwatch floor 3

[@Saturn-Matrix]

There's no reason to do this, it kills variety. Like, if I want to play firebug I have to play as some "hero" chick? Is she also "nonbinary" like the one in battlefield 2042? Maybe they wanted to save time with voice acting or something?

[@Waterbug1591]

Just as I thought they were going to allow the full freedom of perk selections/customizations to build your own perk tree for your character instead of the old class-specific perk system, they went for the worst of class-specific weapons usable only for specific character classes...... What a double let-down! Why can't game developers just give gamers what they want???

[@wojak831z3]

Hopefully there will be some normal weapons like a remington 870, winchester 1300, or normal ak47. I can't stand all this futuristic looking stuff. Just give me a goddamn stamped sheet steel 1911!!!

[@akaroth7542]

The guns look and sound weak AF. Hope that and the 'hero' shooter crap gets fixed

[@lazyholl0w831]

Wow. This shit is DOA

[@chosenbytheRukh]

Gotta see how they implement the new system

[@Dabeux]

I'm definitely not feeling the new aesthetic. I think the new designs kind of clash with the original killing floor identity too much. Doesn't look horrifying as kf2 or kf1. Something off with this game. Not to mention the guns look like sci-fi jargon now. Very blocky weapon designs.

[@selfelected3832]

Thanks for the video; it really sounds like they're trying to dumb down the game. Is it also true that there is not going to be any Zed time? I also heard a rumor that there is not going to be a reload cancel. I also heard there's not going to be a traitor to buy guns and ammo. So let's say, for example, Boss Wave, you can't just hand your money to a demolitionist and have them buy RPGs for everybody. It sounds like they're back in themselves, up in a corner. The game is going to be boring and repetitive if these other things I was told about are true. I was told these things by somebody on Steam who has had Workshop Maps published, and they were put in the game. I'm not saying their name, but they do know people. I'm just not sure if it's true.

[@drrayven]

I personally havent heard any of the things you said, but if they are true, this game would be Killing Floor in name only. It would also mean that the devs are trying to appeal to a broader audience, which we have seen time and time again works AGAINST the dev team. I pray that these things arent true.

[@plagueman049]

Swear I saw ZED time in some behind the scenes stuff, don't quote me on it

[@anders12114]

btw whare did pc games get thair info form?

[@drrayven]

The writer of the article talked with the game's director, Bryan Wynia

[@anders12114]

@@drrayven ah okay thanks

[@imTheMrBEAN]

I hate the trend of making "cyber futuristic weapons" they all look so bland and lame. I want real weapons, with maybe some super weapons being cyber futuristic.

[@johnny2598]

Ak-47 from KF1 was nice

[@IGoByBeastbb]

just dont use the guns that say hrg and boom prob solved

[@Soma_Shotgun]

I don't like the idea of Perks being replaced by characters. I'm pretty sure TP wil revert this. No idea what they were thinking. On the other hand. Weapons being tied to perks is kinda okay with me. It wasn't a viable strategy in KF2 anyway tho the freedom was nice.

[@drrayven]

I personally think having the freedom is what made KF unique

[@idrathernot_2]

Nah, ill keep KF1, right along with its steam mod support. Fuck this Suicide Squad Overwatch crap.

[@Drunde]

Try playing KF1 in a descent server without downloading 100gb of shitty mods...

[@johnny2598]

​@@DrundeKF2 alone has 100 gb mate. I started a dedicated server with several maps and mods and it already takes 50 gb of space

[@Drunde]

@@johnny2598my point is that i hate trying to play an old game without having to download bloat, i just wanna play the vanilla game, bug fixes mods and small add-ons are welcome, but vanilla servers are nonexistent.

[@IGoByBeastbb]

@@Drunde the game is from 2009 XD

[@Drunde]

@@IGoByBeastbb shit reading comprehension.

[@norrecvizharan1177]

Now see, personally, there's one way I can see character specific things actually working out. It's if they had it more as a form of "this character has these extra gadgets they can use, but are still good with any perk weapon" sort of deal. Or maybe even just general buffs like "Constable Briar's got a higher max armor level cause he's an ex cop" or "Lt Masterson's got some good buffs to aiming/reloading because he was in the military". Maybe even having Foster have bonus income or Scully just running faster (he was described as being fast on his feet and quick witted, after all), but overall just having actual perks still be a separate thing. It'd be absolutely bloody dope to mix and match character buffs with perk bonuses if ya ask me (like damn, a firebug combo running fast because ya picked Scully would be wicked). But well, I'm with everyone else in that if they limit perk weapons themselves (or just the perk bonuses) to the characters, then it'd just be plain dumb. Also kinda typing out these thoughts in the hopes that maybe it might also inspire someone to carry these ideas or even make a game down the line if it happens to not be how KF3 does it, but yea.

[@wojak831z3]

Like seriously? Futuristic guns are gross please tripwire GIVE US some weapons that we can identify with. Example, Killing floor 1's AK47 with wood furniture. Normal looking guns INCREASE playerbase. No wacky cosmetics either, Please. Just Give players infinite tactical cosmetics instead if you go that route!!! Omg.

[@Drunde]

tactical nerd probably spends his entire day watching POV reloading videos, go use a real firearm...

[@Rodan727]

I hope this doesn't kill it. Hopefully they change their minds

[@mikemccoy7931]

Doesn't really bother me tbh

[@TheQaaz]

The major glaring issue with KF3 for me personally apart from the futuristic design choice is that stupid specialist system, because I know where they are going with this. Having perk-locked characters is one thing, but my main concern is that I KNOW nearly for CERTAIN that they are going to milk the hell out of us as a player base by using that system under the guise of "gameplay innovation". Mr. Foster is not locked to Commando to fit his aesthetic, Mr. Foster is locked to Commando so that they can later charge you for West London Mr. Foster (KF1) who is a Firebug with a new ultimate and weapon choices for $10-$20, rinse and repeat. You want to play as DJ Scully? You can buy the DJ Scully specialist pack that features all variations of Scully using different perks for only $40! Big fan of Masterson? Just complete your 100 tiers of your Horzine Pass or alternatively purchase all 100 tiers for only $100! The characters showcased in the Pre-Alpha footage are unfamiliar and relatively unappealing looking on purpose so they can charge us for fan-favorites that will more than likely have better weapons and ultimate abilities all while having cosmetics locked to specialists to ensure that you have the purchase cosmetics multiple times. The game is going to be a cash grab and I honestly would not even be shocked if they ended up making the game Free-2-Play at some point during its life cycle...

[@MrCuzIMAking]

Idk... with how unpopular the game is compared to other round bases shooters I think they should change it up and revert it later if need be. If you want to play based off the nostalgia of KF1 and KF2 then go play those. You guys are lucky they even added content for 2 for so long.

[@owboiyeah2273]

I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS. THIS IS GREAT. The game takes itself more seriously, great. No clown shit and bloat like in KF2, which is a big reason I and many more quit the game.

[@burgerbait]

I never liked KF due to the class based system. I certainly won't be playing KF3 now.

[@vivious_]

wtf are you doing here then

[@Drunde]

Go play L4D2, COD Zombies or NMRH then.

[@vivious_]

i think this is fine and people are exaggerating way too much... its not gonna kill the game. its not becoming a hero shooter just because they are restricting the characters to their respective specialist role either. im not a big fan of this but who knows, maybe it could turn out to be better gameplay wise, so you would know the specialist just by looking at what the character a person looks like

[@drrayven]

I mean, they are giving characters ultimates, so it IS basically a hero shooter.

[@vivious_]

@@drrayven where does it say that

[@drrayven]

@@vivious_ in the article the game director said that they are adding a "oh fuck button" That's the definition of an ultimate

[@vivious_]

@@drrayven even if thats the case, its not a big deal. i guess we can only wait for the game to release before we can judge it

[@drrayven]

@@vivious_ for me personally I feel like the Devs are abandoning the fans from kf1 and kf2 to try and go mainstream

[@chuckironsight3914]

gaming has gone stale. please release all new games exactly the same as the old ones, just like cod...i just want to buy the exact same game every time.

[@Drunde]

Must CONSOOM!!!!!!! don't ask quastions, just CONSOOM.