This Dark vs MaxPax Finals is AMAZING! StarCraft 2

StarCraft 2 Tournament - Dark vs MaxPax - ESL SC2 Cup Finals - Protoss vs Zerg - Dark and Maxpax break out completely different styles in this Protoss vs Zerg rollercoaster finals!
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StarCraft 2 Tournament - ESL SC2 Cup NA 217 Finals - Dark (Zerg) vs MaxPax (Protoss) - Best of 5
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[@sergej06]

"That which doesn't kill you leaves you in a fragile and potentially crippled state that makes you intensely vulnerable to being killed much more easily when ripped apart by zerglings" - an old saying

[@nmgaro2156]

Last game could apply for match of the year(so far), and this easily could be a candidate for best quote of the year

[@rcraces1]

😂😂😂

[@SteelValyrian]

It is known

[@BigLeafyTree]

-Julius Caesar

[@manhunter-hv6gm]

It's an old saying but it checks out😁

[@CABALlc1]

That hold by MaxPax in game 4 was just insane....

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Man love to see protoss do well against such a strong zerg player. Great battles, could have easily gone either way as even small things made such a huge impact.

[@villz1267]

Maphackers can't play on LAN for a reason

[@SteelValyrian]

@@villz1267 Proof it

[@villz1267]

@@SteelValyrian Things you will never see : Maxpaxxx playing a game with a webcam on his setup so you can see his screens

[@SteelValyrian]

@@villz1267 Yes I know. Doesn't mean he's cheating.

[@villz1267]

@@SteelValyrian You are right, where there is smoke doesn't mean there is always fire, however majority of the time there is a direction correlation ....

[@hivetech4903]

15:42 MaxPax was shook... shoots his own shield battery 🌀💥😂

[@MultiChrisjb]

power move

[@JarvisValko]

AMAZING is pure understatement for this match. What a great series. What a great casting. Thank you Winter!

[@Kesvalk]

Charlie was the real MVP, saw 3 minutes of play, knew exactly everything would play out and left so he could be his own man.

[@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm]

I see Maxpax, I click. I see Hero, I cringe, but still probably click..

[@MultiChrisjb]

1:00:18 "never send a zealot to do a stalkers job"

[@screes620]

So glad to see high tier protoss finally using Motherships. The offensive recall is such a powerful tool.

[@robert-asdf]

you mean it's actually good for something other than being yanked by vipers?! it can win protoss a final. we know what dark, serral, and richard bring but MAN is it a breathe of fresh air seeing protoss win ANY final!

[@elerushielerushi9180]

It was always been a powerful tool even before patch 5.0.12. The previous patch size of Mass Recall and 200 energy for Double Mass Recall was very good. Sadly rarely anyone use it. I could be wrong though.

[@Daniel-rd6st]

18:20 That overcharge is really the MVP here, that Immortal just wont die 🙂

[@leinis80]

nice catch

[@curtisbrown2281]

Wow Maxpax made protoss look insanely strong in game 5. Recall wizard.

[@Ulti_H]

fr the recalls were fantastic

[@at5598]

Love to see the toss win. Crazy decisions and almost play style swap from both players

[@christopherscott6383]

Oh....Snap!! Winter Casting SC2.. Here for it!

[@diabolo_twitch8920]

I just LOVE the memes shown between the games 🤩

[@ThueJanusKristensen]

"There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year - at least for this week" LOL - dig at Lowko? :)

[@kathorsees]

Winter does the same, he has a whole playlist for "games of the year". I think it's just a necessary evil, a clickbait sacrifice to our sombre algorithmic overlords.

[@ninjabreadman22]

Every pro zerg's playstyle can be described as "Nah I'd win."

[@adoi8467]

Through heaven and earth, he alone is the GOATED one

[@yarikyaryi]

Cause zerg is op race that has advantage at literally everything. Best scouting, earliest starting units, best economy, cheap upgrades, fastest maxing out, lurkers countring any ground army, corruptors countring any air army, even if you lose your limit you can max out it in literally seconds. No wonder there are so many zergs among top pro players. Bugs, roaches and dogs dominate humans and aliens, nice design. Big fly can pull mothership with its tongue, cool.😂😂😂

[@ninjabreadman22]

@@yarikyaryi Glad someone else agrees Zerg are imbalanced. Terran and Protoss need some buffs to deal with the insane zerg scouting and mobility.

[@cavemantero]

@@ninjabreadman22 they just nerfed tvz and tvp and buffed zerg again...we know who is running the show and has been for years

[@ironmonkey1512]

@@yarikyaryiZerg is pretty weak in the air

[@grahamgaming3]

Dude maxpax was clearing trying to make dark confident the first two games just so just to grow his actual style off.

[@taesonslane2513]

Thanks for the cast WinterStarcraft

[@cathulionetharn5139]

Thank You Om nom nom

[@colinfraser7150]

I love the two drone joke has kept going.

[@Mosquitor69]

Thank You. Love your style. Now I'll go enjoy this match.

[@Ulti_H]

SIR RICHARD THE FLOCK MANAGER 🙏🙏🙏

[@pleasespammesomemore4436]

what a great series. action packed right up till the end. couldve gone either way too.

[@Mikeypequeno]

great games and great commentary as always!

[@dragoscc1163]

That was beautiful !

[@binslagala]

A conspicuously good video!

[@jeronimosuarez7957]

3:31 intensely vulnerable 😂😂

[@lightdx7008]

"There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year... at least for this week" xDD

[@frankhestvik9859]

The most caster thing ever said

[@Daniel-rd6st]

I love how one HERO Zealot almost decided the whole series 😄

[@Daniel-yy3ty]

and just after he praised him for using a stalker in his wall 🤣

[@xSubotaix]

they should play all 3 races, best of 5

[@warlocksnevereverdie]

Man this series was bonkers

[@zachlong5427]

Hello all! So, I'm not even a month into watching Starcraft casts, and one of the things that I keep finding discussed about Protoss is the Warpgate/Gateway distinction. Why aren't Gateways used? And, why are the two things so...controversial, it seems, about the meta around Protoss. It is build speed, resources, or some kind of Jank that happens at different levels of play? RSVP!

[@ChingooOK]

warpgates let you remax your units quicker, at any location where you have power field. this gives you more flexibility to respond to or launch counterattacks after a big engagement/skirmish. uThermal has a series on trying to get to grandmasters with gateway though, its pretty entertaining/insightful

[@zachlong5427]

Okay. Is it like a "sidegrade" in intent but is de facto an "upgrade"? Does it cost more resource to warp units compared to normal production

[@Forgotyournapkins]

It’s a cheap upgrade that you always get as Protoss early on in the game (some rare build orders you might not, typically air). Really the only purpose of Gateways is to balance the beginning of games where insta warpgate would create too much of an advantage in the under 2:00 min-ish portion of the game

[@SteelValyrian]

@@zachlong5427 Being able to warp in units on the fly wherever you have pylon power is huuuuge. For a while it was all Protoss had almost, and they are still called a "gimmicky" race. Often times it is good strategy to not max out your whole supply- keep it around 170 or so and you can warp in very deadly attacks from unexpected flanks and onto vulnerable bases. Even the main base can be a flank. Maxpax almost lost the last game with a bad flank into the main using his mothership. There are many examples to see of him using his prism in general of course for awesome counters. Just watch the where/when he attacks. The game has changed a lot over the years, Toss being able to warp in and recall has been refined over years of balance and players discovering the mechanic's depth. You can use standard gateways. They are fine and reliable production, just ask the Terran and Florencio =P

[@bigprank3964]

@@zachlong5427 Warpgate is an upgrade and not a sidegrade. Warpgates are considered to be better than Gateways, always, in every situation. It does cost the same amount of resources to warp in units with Warpgates and to produce them normally in Gateways

[@Levm17]

Anyone else noticed maxpax reorder the damaged oracle on the outside when confronting the enemy bases once more? Fantastic

[@cosmostumpf4135]

Dark targeted the damaged one with the spore anyway- those tiniest of things in early game are what makes these players the top of the top.

[@JG-ti7id]

liking and subscribing IS still free for now... that last game was WOW! winter, asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!! glhf fam

[@ArmstrongAlley]

If YOU put that on a mug I'll buy it

[@fr3lance91]

Gonna be a big mug if you want it legible. 😅

[@tamanousJP]

Cast Dark vs Stats from GSL next!!!

[@ProgramasVBnet]

Que gran partida, como ha remontado super MaxPax. Saludetes

[@lukebracken]

are you switching to storm gate or one of the newer RTS games? not pressuring just wondering what the long-term plans are, if there are any. no biggie. good luck.

[@ManDuderGuy]

MOST PROFESSIONAL

[@JeanLucPicard85]

So nice to see good mothership use.

[@danielhearndon1908]

Great job by MaxPax. He massively outplayed Dark in the final match and still barely won. Look at his army comp vs Dark's Ling, Hydra, Lurker.

[@danywd40]

What a game. By the way, a noob question. Zergs got nidus, protos got mother ship recall and base recall besides the gateways and war prism. Terrans have mules and BC tactical jump?

[@TheJohtaja]

9:16 After win you gotta add terstarcraft though! Doesn't work otherwise.

[@Minstrel1]

"Hold the line ladies!"

[@IsThisHandleTaken]

Love to see a Protoss win. Still love Dark, his playstyle is super entertaining and he's creative af. But Protoss just seems so disadvantaged right now, I gotta cheer for the underdog

[@benismann]

11:40 Before this point i doubted if the workers lost popup (on the left) didnt work, since so many adepts tried to harass them, but nope, it works. Dark just doesnt lose drones

[@Jeed92]

8:50 xDDDD

[@hall799]

@24:50 if he would have yelled "MY LARVA!!!!" or something like that.

[@cjmahar7595]

How long did it take you to come up with today transition to likes and subscribes? so clever!

[@portee9113]

Wow Dark is ruthless. The man is a killer.

[@tertozer3543]

Zerg is just omega giga broken since HotS. Surely he is an insane player, but so is MaxPax.

[@bluelemon2805]

GO MAXPAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@AZ3rgling]

Man im gonna miss watching Dark play

[@user-vh9rk8xw1i]

Like and comment before watching...i trust you Winter!

[@freshsmilely]

dark logic: "they cant kill drones if you dont have any drones"

[@JM-rl6bq]

It would be cool if Maxpax played in live tohrnaments like to see him at Katowice or sometbing.

[@tilmanvogel2387]

Epic

[@neojack333]

winning with 0 workers left ? wow that last game was something !

[@YugoAfluana]

I believe Dark can be as effecient and effective Serral, but he choose Violent.

[@Matthew-cc4xt]

Watched Dark lose 2 series in a row. Not what I came here for.

[@TowerSavant]

In a week. Nice.

[@adoi8467]

Are you a pro player because you are the GOAT, or are you the GOAT because you are a pro player?

[@gregoryhilton5315]

this is just dark vs dark on a different monitor isn't it

[@Middieno22]

I've known about winterstarcraft for years, but I just started watching him alot recently. I think artosis + tasteless together cant be beat, but I think winter is better than either of them individually, possibly the best solo caster in the genre. My two cents.

[@JamesLSY]

Have not seen Protoss win comfortably ever. Is the balance that bad?

[@WizardyDylan]

it was 3-2

[@Manwu5]

Amazing games....Nothing better than a roasted zerg.

[@StarryTemplar]

whos Idea to give Lurker Huge AOE damage and Huge Range ?? LOL

[@matrion15]

Dark can go ... himself with his disrespectful "g"s after every loss

[@joshgulrud5635]

Winter you gotta give us a Queen tier list for April 1(?). You gotta. Brenda Karen Susan ... ?????

[@freddyorellana2058]

En otra pongan a Serral

[@jakekielty1]

Miss this game. Wow some people are AI when it comes to combat. Awesome that the computer is the inferior being

[@soju69jinro]

finally a finals without Serral, now it's worth watching.

[@ursidae1651]

I wonder why players don't use unit skins in tournaments.. is it prohabited? Or do they just not want to play with them? It'd make the games just a little bit more interesting...

[@Avsoy]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@marinav3905]

Bob the Chargelot, is that you?

[@paulhamtorlia3039]

Europe's Top Protoss vs Korea's Top Zerg

[@Gogohobbytv]

Amazing series. Damn, I hate Swarm Hosts so much. Disgustingly free kills units.

[@metalevel7739]

protoss wins, this is my tarot card reading for whether or not it will be a good day

[@Jorg05111980]

Thanks, but this is too zoomed in for my liking...

[@mauromattei9779]

Really? :)

[@Cookie0fPower]

Comment

[@mrgotohell111111]

gang

[@matiastikvic7989]

I swear to god You we're annoying me a Lot when i started to watch your Videos, but you have grown on me so much that i Like every single Video before you "beg" for Likes

[@jayswizzle57]

70 likes on this comment and I’ll comment on another video… and I’ll probably do it anyways. JIMMY!!!

[@onxiaftw]

Lulz

[@kevincline2589]

Whyyyyyy did you let me see MaxPax's picture? Hadn't seen it before and always imagined a little nerd like Clem. So not as big a fan anymore.

[@gewinnste]

Dark's single-g on game 4 and 5. Omg what a c-word. The loss was completely his fault, MaxPax pulled off an impossible hold in game 4 and just outplayed him in game 5.

[@geoffrichardson2728]

I find as soon as I like and subscribe....I totally lose interest in the starcraft content. I'm just watching to help winter meet his daily increasing like quota now.

[@deeepinsomnia]

Ultras still bad

[@mathiahjaquish8564]

I appreciate your attempts. These are great games. But you sir are not a caster.

[@craigbs3]

Dark is a gold digger 😂😂😂😂

[@sir2854]

MUUUHAHAHAHA.....all those worthless zerg players who depended on the imbalances are now helpless.

[@phantomxofxwarx9996]

You ever learn to be quiet? Like you have the exact same intro speech all the time. Change it up

[@Clickmoi]

" Starcraft players looking at any other games on the planet " meme... Me : then AoE2:DE players must be looking them from the clouds with the gods ^^.