Sounds like hands traps need a limit more than the deck itself.
@Thecriticscritics3 ай бұрын
@@tokemon1547unfortunately handtraps are needed to stop snake eyes😅
@sOiCyMaRk1153 ай бұрын
Engine size for decks should be larger. A deck should NOT be able to run 25 non engine!
@gabudaichamuda25453 ай бұрын
Most lower-end Decks are ALL engine, like Branded Buster Blader. I *want* to play HTs and Crossout, but that would be an extra 12 cards at minimum.
@naknampucha52363 ай бұрын
7:57 Bahahaha lol, that's what I've been talking about..Banning Borreload and Baronne won't change anything to Snake-Eyes,.they just crippled those decks whom are simply reliant to Generic ED.
@four-en-tee3 ай бұрын
idk if i'd call it worse than Tear Zero. Its on par with it in terms of how much it has warped the format. The problem really is that Konami is taking forever to address the format (which was also an issue with both Tier Zero and Kashtira, but not to this extent), and its made many board breakers unviable (which can make dealing with other anti-meta decks frustrating). The big issue on Konami's part is that idk if there's a way to gradually reduce the deck's power without just making it more sacky, so any major bans would just outright kill the deck and waste hundreds of dollars worth of investment. At least in the case of Tear, limiting everything served a mechanical purpose. If you still see your 1-ofs in Snake-Eye, you're essentially still playing the tier 0 deck because the archetype is one big search network made up of 1 card starters. This is also ignoring the fact that without any bans, the Snake Eye engine still works with a LOT of supplemental stuff that can further boost consistency. Are we just going to ignore the SHS package and Infernal Flame Banshee? What about Melodious or Kashtira? And of course, the deck can always play Prosperity to fill gaps. They just don't HAVE to rn. The whole thing is just a lose-lose scenario I think, anyone who bought this deck is liable to lose a lot if they shilled out for the deck when it became meta. But if we dont ban anything, the deck will still be uncontested. I only saved on buying the deck core because I bought the pieces during AGOV to playtest for a homebrew format I was working on. I only have a physical Snake-Eye deck core due to happenstance basically, lol. I don't own SP, so its not worth playing for me. That and I dont have a vehicle or a locals near my area. I'd have to remote duel. My advice would be to offload your cards before you get burned on the next list. Original is most liable to be banned on the next list, and it will kill the deck's meta relevance. Only reason i'm keeping my cards is because I could still use the pieces probably as supplemental engines in other rogue decks after Konami kills the tier 0 deck.
@shawnjavery3 ай бұрын
The funny thing is tear format was more bearable because diversity in deck building was at rock bottom. The engine was more or less identical, you had some people play 3 sulliek/scream instead of 2 and occasionally people would run heart beat and a cryme, though often they were sided in. Even non-engine it was just bystials, super poly, talents, droplet. Honestly post phhy I expect that the mirror would have been even more terrible than it was before the list. Even something as small as metanoise becoming the norm is a big headache in pushing through a board. Trivikarma not only adds planet, but also scream and makes double trap set ups a lot more common with those being hard to stop. Not to mention fenrir became an engine card and you'd have to deal with arise heart in the format. I think it was a fun format for 6 weeks but incredible breakable by the player base after that. Most of the nonsense tear got up to later on could be done at a much higher power level at its peak.
@four-en-tee3 ай бұрын
@@shawnjavery Yeah, but unless you were playing Tear or Floow, the format was miserable. At least you can play other decks to some degree in this format if you're a really good pilot. Its just annoying that we HAVE to run a bunch of handtraps. What I really liked about Tear Zero was the shake-up in tech card choices. Skull Meister seeing play for example was really cool.
@autobotstarscream7653 ай бұрын
Zealantis is cringe, App can stay so we can have fun asking her where her omninegate bodyguards are then shooting her in the face with nuke Spells and Ghost Ogre. 😈
@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...3 ай бұрын
@@four-en-tee😅
@four-en-tee3 ай бұрын
@@JuanGonzalezZzZzZz... Okay, maybe "cool" wasn't the right word. I started playing in 2021, so it was just fascinating on my part seeing the meta-relevant tech choices change so drastically in such a short span of time. Like, people were running Soul Drain and shit, it was bizarre.
@dominicott59393 ай бұрын
I'd argue that Tear format was just as bad if not worse in terms of gatekeeping than Snake-Eye. Being able to chain 13 effects off a single havnis with half of those effects controlling any potential good mills for your opponent made every other deck unplayable. Add on top of this the extremely low skill floor of the deck, and you had a perfect reason for so many players to take a well-deserved hiatus from the game.
@Furan4su3 ай бұрын
I only picked up tear after ariseheart got banned so I do not know how tear worked when it was full power so I’m wondering how a single havnis can trigger 13 effects when it only mills three?
@Justcallmeaqua4203 ай бұрын
Tear cards have a lot of GY effects as you know, so with milling them to the GY activates their effects so you could add any tear card, monster, fusion summon Elemental Heroes Style or send said cards to the GY to activate their effects all over again. The Ishizu cards making this A LOT stronger since they can recycle the deck (albeit slower than some decks that are far more toxic like runick. I don't play enough of Tear since I have none of the cards and only played it kn the Limit 1 Event of Master Duel @@Furan4su
@dominicott59393 ай бұрын
@@Furan4su Not on their own of course; I was using havnis as an example. Prior to the consistency hits and bans, a single mill resolution on any card would easily cause the ridiculous double-digit chains.
@PalkiaDialgaGiratina3 ай бұрын
@@Furan4suHavnis could hit a miller (Agido and/or Kelbek, now banned), which milled your opponent's decks too. Depending on your mills as the Tear player, you would trigger a bunch of effects (Tear Spells/Traps all search or add back, and if you milled any of the girls, they could fuse). And if the opponent also played Tear, then they would end up chaining a bunch of effects to yours. The mirror match at full power is one of the most intense things you could possibly watch.
@PalkiaDialgaGiratina3 ай бұрын
I have to agree. I play Tear, I loved the art and themes initially, and I just love the deck's playstyle, but I can understand why people found the format bad. But what I can argue is that Tear definitely rewarded the more skilled player in mirror matches, even if it maybe had a low skill floor, the ceiling was really high. Snake Eyes feels sacky bc it depends on engine + non-engine you draw, whereas you have to manufacture your lines with Tear (especially now that the deck is hit) with awkward hands. You never felt out of the game if you played Tear, even with bad hands, bc the outcomes weren't so much non-engine dependent as they were on your plays.
@Possiblekim3 ай бұрын
Konami should released a Pyro Sealing Mirror (Negate fire type monster effect on field or graveyard)
@nathanhamberg67333 ай бұрын
if you want to stop the graveard play silent graveyard that negates effects in grave there's also s gravekeepers spell that has 3 different effects that effect the graveyard
@Possiblekim3 ай бұрын
@@nathanhamberg6733 Graveyard only is not beneficial enough, you need on the field and graveyard. There is a light and dark version of this. It is called "Light Sealing Mirror" and "Shadow Imprisoning Mirror". Galaxy Eyes deck crippled toward this trap cards
@gabudaichamuda25453 ай бұрын
This is why I don't like the way ban lists work right now: There is NO PREDICTOR for how long a Deck is going to last. When Upper Deck ran the game, you could set your watch by the ban list with MAYBE a week's variance at most. September 1st and March 1st, on the dot.
@randumo243 ай бұрын
Snake Eyes isn't ruining YGO, just the TCG because they were a bunch of idiots and decided to use the deck as an excuse to ban some generic extra deck cards in Baronne, Borreload, & Linkuriboh....yet they did not touch the actual deck at all. Snake Eyes is nowhere near as dominant in the OCG & Master Duel where it has actually been hit on the ban-list. Complaining about a top tier deck still dominating for a long time despite it never being hit on the ban-list is not a deck problem, it's the people in-charge being bad at their jobs problem.
@fury3743 ай бұрын
Im gonna yap a bit about why snake eye is IMO worse for yugioh than tear or kash I first played yugioh semi competitively during Tear Zero, and i played Dragonmaid against my friend's full power Tear. While it was unfair, i still got to play a bit, and my graveyard effects did help me. Kashtira format comes, and i was then playing mathmech. Again, i was still 100% losing to Kashtira, but the interruptions we had felt impectful enough to get me to turn 2-3 or so Im playing Lab now in Snake Eye, and at this point i feel like Snake Eye is worse than the other two simply cause its not a ton of engine restrictions, and it just uses a ton of generics to screw me over. Imperm the ash? Who cares? They have extenders. Going first? Cant do anything, their hand has 3 interruptions. I hate to be the guy playing floodgates (i just dont like the playstyle), but at this point i have to of im going to try to even play against them TLDR: Go play Magic until they ban actual snake eye engine cards
@autobotstarscream7653 ай бұрын
Magic also kringe, #GoPlayOnePiece ☠️ 🏴☠️ 🦜
@enigma13393 ай бұрын
Something I’ve learned about yugioh since the old BURNING ABYSS days is that there will always be something to bitch about , I play voiceless and have beat snake eye a NUMBERRR of times , the reason I chose not to play snake eye is because I feel there is potential for much stronger decks and I have been experimenting. A lot of these decks nowadays are 15-20 hand traps n 5 one card starters when you think of a deck that can do this successfully aswell I think of yubel , they have d lotus the field spell and beckoning beast and the continuous spell. Which you play all at three. I think that winning a ycs or regionals even is based off of pure luck, yeah it sucks there is a lot of snake eyes but I don’t think it matters bc once something stronger comes out people will slowly stop playing this deck
@DocTheDog3 ай бұрын
Yugioh sucks since hand traps, yugioh sucks since insane ending boards can be made.
@ThatsSoGiorgio3 ай бұрын
I dig the new set up.
@Kaichi2233 ай бұрын
Nah They will eventually make a deck with only 12 cards as main engine, then print many handtraps that has bonus effect to add whatever type of card from main deck upon activation beside its main function to stop somethings
@NovaMan_092 ай бұрын
Even though snake eye isn’t a fun format, I had to fall back on it just to have a chance
@ShootieMcShoot3 ай бұрын
Terraforming + necrovalley
@nael_luna3 ай бұрын
This deck was always a mistake... I don't know why Konami keeps wanting to kill this deck for anyone except whales
@djangough3 ай бұрын
Day two of Snake-Eyes Indianapolis was rough to watch.
@alfred1120093 ай бұрын
Top comment
@sorrystillthinkingofanamec67353 ай бұрын
Is it just Snake Eye mirror matches?
@giantaglia16813 ай бұрын
@@sorrystillthinkingofanamec6735 unlucky for the people watching, yes
@b.belmont81933 ай бұрын
Snake Eye format = Boring AF Kashtira format = If you have the out, you have the out. Tear format = half my deck is in the graveyard before my turn. Yep i dealt with 2 bad formats and saw that this format was going to be a one deck format so decided to just put my cards up until shit gets fixed. Haven't been to a regional since November. Honestly don't feel ike im missing out on much.
@jonathanjoseph76743 ай бұрын
You didn't miss anything
@b.belmont81933 ай бұрын
@@jonathanjoseph7674 finally started to see "pro" players complaining about the format. 🤣🤣
@aceclover7583 ай бұрын
This is why locals are fun
@DisasterLord3 ай бұрын
I'd say that the combination of spright and tears is what broke the camel's back for me The meta has not been fun ever since those two appeared
@monarchy0283 ай бұрын
@@DisasterLordyou clearly never played tear during the tear meta. That shit was pure gas and some of the most intense yugioh I’ve ever played. Also some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing this god forsaken game.
@commentstealer44603 ай бұрын
I can't even play anymore , my opponent is literally playing in my turn , summoning extra deck monsters in my own turn , not only that ,the monsters they summon have quick effects basically destroying all my cards leaving me with nothing
@Noremak_Notrap3 ай бұрын
yeah, its not fun. no wonder so many people are quitting and picking up other cards games, eventually it's only going to be the die hards left playing yugioh while everyone else leave cause the formats keep getting worse and worse.
@sentientnpc03 ай бұрын
That's when you let the timer run out. They don't want you to play..... Fine you don't play but they better wait for the win
@commentstealer44603 ай бұрын
@@sentientnpc0 lmao that's exactly what i do
@LinusIslamTips3 ай бұрын
Have you tried ghoti?
@Shinigami_13202 ай бұрын
And I thought the format was bad when I left back in 2016-2017
@ak47dragunov3 ай бұрын
I am with you on almost all your points except for Tear format being better. Truth is, that was one of the most gatekept formats we've seen to date. Either you were playing Tear and having fun, playing some Shifter BS and not letting anyone else have fun, or staying home. For all the warts the current terrible format has, you can at least bring GY-centric and/or Dark/Light decks to the table and not have your life ruined by the zillion Bystials, shufflers, Shifters and Abyss Dwellers around every corner. And funny enough, much like Tear one of Snake-Eyes greatest strengths/toxic elements is that it has 0 restrictions. Infinite free bodies and advantage, like Cyberse on crack. And the worst part is this time you can tell Konami was very intentional with making SE as broken as possible. Bonfire, Promethean, all manner of busted lvl 1 Fires dropping around this time, the early Master Duel release. They were very proud of this
@monarchy0283 ай бұрын
I was playing orcust, and I played the graveyard game and it was super fun.
@zakariaelhimer13253 ай бұрын
True i hate tier 0 formats
@Darkmagecurt3 ай бұрын
Tearlaments was a trash format just as bad as this or worse I'd argue cause tearlament is better. I play now and didn't play during tear or kashmir format.
@monarchy0283 ай бұрын
@@Darkmagecurt if you didn’t play during tear format, then you can’t have an opinion on it. Tear format was super fun and expressive, which I can’t say about snake eyes.
@Darkmagecurt3 ай бұрын
@monarchy028 I did I quitted cause of it both formats big opinion here buddy.
@rface03 ай бұрын
I think the game may be at its breaking point. If the game gets any faster duels will be decided on turn negative one
@Amazonessamy3 ай бұрын
Wit until they bring hand traps with additional grave effects...
@jeanpitre57893 ай бұрын
This concept is hilarious but probably true. Pretty soon yugioh will just be a single round of craps.
@felixdaniels373 ай бұрын
Decks are literally getting designed with built in FTK's now (Gimmick Puppets) so you're right on the money on that one.
@sentientnpc03 ай бұрын
0 turn kill. Sartorius would be proud 😂
@soura13983 ай бұрын
Ishizu tear was scary but idk, i could play around it, but snake-eyes is just so strong i feel like i can disrupt 5 times and they still get full board
@sentientnpc03 ай бұрын
That's cuz it's new. You will know how to play against it. Best way to know how to play against a certain deck is to play it yourself, you will soon discover it's weakness
@soura13983 ай бұрын
I play infernities, I am cooked
@zayfreeman3 ай бұрын
The unchained formate was the healthiest format in so long
@acasualgameryt69783 ай бұрын
I can't believe we went from that format to this. More than 12 handtraps wasn't even the norm back then and now Snake-eye and many more decks like it (Tenpai) are filled with 20+ non-engine.
@nharviala3 ай бұрын
@@acasualgameryt6978 Some decks could safely forgo handtraps entirely! The format felt more like an interactive puzzle, rather than unbreakable boards.
@monarchy0283 ай бұрын
Imo tear format was some of the best yugioh I’ve ever played. It was super skill intensive and super fun.
@nharviala3 ай бұрын
@@monarchy028 Not just that, it not only allowed both players to play the game, but almost forced them to!
@gabudaichamuda25453 ай бұрын
@@monarchy028 Mono-Deck formats are trash period. Especially when they price 90 percent of the player base out of the game. Snake-Eye and Tear are no different in that regard.
@PURPLE_G0J03 ай бұрын
Videos and opinions like these are so funny to me because I’m just a filthy casual. I don’t play meta or participate in any tournaments, it’s just me and my friends playing anime decks or building rouge decks for fun. Competitive YuGiOh sounds like it can be really annoying and not fun tbh.
@williamdrum98993 ай бұрын
Every tcg is unfun if you try to play competitively.
@axelt63122 ай бұрын
@@williamdrum9899 Problem is that Yu-Gi-Oh dont't have much casual left, ygo meta was disgusting in 2004 but that wasnt a problem since 90% of players played casual deck they enjoyed
@Citizen_Nappa233 ай бұрын
This is a format in which you main 3x Evenly Matched
@densai893 ай бұрын
There is no restrictions on the snake eyes cards. Same with Tear and Adamancipator, etc. These decks can vomit out crazy endboards because they don’t lock you into anything. Add restrictions to the starter monsters, not on an extra deck monster like Promethean Princess. At that point it’s too late to even matter locking you into Fire.
@yugiMOWS3 ай бұрын
Gentleman's agreement we all just stop playing snake eye
@stankobanko51033 ай бұрын
Yugioh is in a very unfun place tbh. Normal trap cards, counter trap cards, and continuous spells and traps have all been virtually phased out. 95% of archetypes cant compete with the other 5% bc those 5% have paragraphs of effects that let you summon 5 monsters from one normal/ special summon that all have protection or floodgate or nuke the opponents field. The game needs to be slowed down by a lot if the devs want the game to be healthy again
@oscarrivero30603 ай бұрын
Wait until Tenpai get their support, the conversation will shift to how Tenpai is ruining YuGiOh. YuGiOh has been in these sorta metas for a long time now and seems like it will always be like this.
@MattOsheaYGO3 ай бұрын
i think you're partly right. Its less of snake eye being the full problem, rather the face of decks with tiny engines that can play a million hand traps, without any real restrictions
@Kratos02103 ай бұрын
Endphase Magnamhut = +3
@jeanpitre57893 ай бұрын
Tenpai support? Tenpai already functions flawlessly. What more support could it need? The game is straight up not fun. Who is enjoying this?
@Kratos02103 ай бұрын
@@jeanpitre5789I mean the Support is announced for weeks
@No__Vanity3 ай бұрын
@@jeanpitre5789it gets a second normal summon and a trap that forces main phase to end. wont change that much. would love to see the trap be teched against tenpai tho 😂
@keiji-kun45873 ай бұрын
I don't play competitive YGO but I see that some new decks/archetypes goes way too fast, needs few cards to set up nearly unbreakable boards and also the most annoying of all, half of the deck contains handtraps (yeah I hate ash blossom cuz it shuts down decks that only has 1 way of searching their start plays especially archetypal focus decks which I usually play due to the fact its way fun and allows you to interact with your opponent in some way.) At this point, YGO is basically becoming a single player game.
@CrimsonDemon3113 ай бұрын
You forgot maxx c
@KingDae193 ай бұрын
@@CrimsonDemon311Maxx C isn’t in TCG
@joestar2223 ай бұрын
“ThIS DeCK Is RuiNInG YuGIoH” *Still runs the deck anyway
@Darkmagecurt3 ай бұрын
Konami are like narc dealers at this point 😆
@robinmeunier9903 ай бұрын
Matt’s just being honest and mature about it, your comment on the other hand, not so much. If something degenerate is legal don’t blame the user, blame the organization
@joestar2223 ай бұрын
@@robinmeunier990 get off your high horse. These cards are not the problem. If anything is problematic I’d blame the generic extra deck and floodgates.. that’s being honest and not just putting on the blinders and blaming new cards for problems that existed for quite some time. Being immature about one deck and not the game as a whole is degenerate but I wouldn’t expect a smooth brain cheerleader to understand
@robinmeunier9903 ай бұрын
Floodgates, extra deck monsters, 15 cards engine that allow you to play 20 handtraps, whatever your opinion is, it’s so much better when you write down a constructive comment rather than making fun of a content creator online. That was just the point I was making (which made me a smooth brain cheerleader apparently) 👍
@joestar2223 ай бұрын
@@robinmeunier990 get bent
@sandstorm77903 ай бұрын
The problem is Konami is making engines too powerful this format. Like, after fiendsmith we're going to have 3 engines that all don't use your normal summon, all of which can put up negated before committing to anything, an all of which can effortlessly link into your actual archetype's engine as well for no cost. Melodious, Fiendsmith, And diabellstar are all going to be serious problems in the future even if snake eyes is addressed. They're all way too generic and accomplish way too much off a single card. It's like super heavy samurai being splashed into everything all over again. Konami doesn't need banlist at this point, they need to seriously fix their problem with card design by making everything way too generic with no restrictions... Bring back summon restrictions like branded fusion locking you into fusions only or SOMETHING please.
@Mr.Bearns3 ай бұрын
At top 4, I just turned it off.
@Soraey3 ай бұрын
I was at a regional in germany (Stuttgart) and I played 6 matches, the first one I won against branded (I played pure lab without the unchained) after that I got complettly screwed by 4 Snake eye players. I went first, had 1 Ash , 1 Imperm , 1 Lady, 1 veiler, and a big welcome. That is a pretty neat going first hand. So. I ashed the first search with wanted, then veiler puppler, ash impern special summon lady, still got a full otk in my face because of link plays. I am still a beginner. My problem is that those cards are getting out of hand. Snake eye is just to strong, you need 1 card for a full combo and that is just disgusting. So many handtraps. I would be finde with snake eye if they would have just a 1 start card combo who doenst mean "endfield" it should be like ok I need to play it perfectly without any interuption to get my "good" endfield. Atm I am playing earthmaschines cus its more fun for me, but I lose against a ash if I dont have any extender in my Hand. And that should be ok, a well placed hadntrap should be enough to stop or atleast take the speed out of their combo game. Snake eye could be "nerfed" with reducing the one start combos to one. For example Bonfire 1 puppler 1. Maybe there should be a rulling for handtraps. In a deck there shouldnt be allowed more than 9 Handtraps. that you have to side some handtraps like nibiru or veiler At the moment, there is such a powercreep. Everything gets better and better. If you play against tenpai for an example it was a great going second deck but now they figured out a going first combo. Thats kinda unfair you see sengen and if you dont have any interuption your getting a freakin beatdown. Shortform: Less 1 card combos (Reducing the powercreep with handtraps) There should be more than 1 or 2 tier zero decks or atleast there should be alot of more good decks out there. Limitation of Handtraps You should need more cards for engine. A new banlist who hits snake eye and tenpai and make a solid state that there are no longer tier zero decks. It would be more fun if there wouldnt be any tier zero decks, for example purrley, ashend, earthmaschine, branded, skystriker, traptrix all of them should get a bit of support and after that they should be all at the same power level to make a "fair game state" where no one is left behind. (Even with a low budget) More support for older decks or new arch types that dont fit into pyro (Tenpai/Snake eye) Yes you can flame me for beeing bad but idc. I have fun playing against my friends and on my local.
@RazielTheUnborn3 ай бұрын
Issue is defining a handtrap. Handtrap is not an official Konami term, it was coined by players. So limiting handtraps without an official ruling on what is defined as a handtrap wouldn't be theasible. Bigger issue is how absolutely generic the extra deck has gotten and links made it worse. At least with prior mechanics of somewhat required specific materials but because of links, even those mechanics are losing their identity. Look at Chaos Angel. Doesn't even require a tuner. Ty-phon, Zeus, the numerous contact fusions, and then cards like Crimson Dragon that properly synchro summon cards without any material at all.
@rd96693 ай бұрын
@@RazielTheUnborn😂😂😂no the problem isn’t generic extra deck cards. It’s broken decks that are power creeping everything while everything but the broken deck is hit. Yeah banning linkuriboh sure did stop them huh 😂😂😂
@TurntOddish3 ай бұрын
You had me until you said Purrely and Branded need more support...
@aceclover7583 ай бұрын
Reinforcement of the army is at one yet bonfire is at 3 Lmao
@aceclover7583 ай бұрын
@@TurntOddish I love branded but I agree They dont need any more support but maybe new archetype since the lore ended on an open note But purely just got good support so they don’t need more
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's Konami that's ruining the game with card design. I left with Kash decks and didn't bother playing irl with tear decks and I decided why not give it a go and snake eyes is just so fucking insufferable. I can't even be bothered to play even at a semi casual level, my locals has completely dropped off and since I left to do Warhammer shit out of the 5 shops in my area only 1 stock's Yu-Gi-Oh products and the rest don't even really have players. The one that's left is about 20 guys too not as big as it was before. Konami is slowly killing this franchise.
@axelt63122 ай бұрын
"Konami is slowly killing this franchise. " Fast you mean ? it's insane how fast powercreep has gotten, feel like they are trying to cash out on the game
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel2 ай бұрын
@@axelt6312 Well I mean I have noticed this over the years but it only really picked up in 22
@detective_02673 ай бұрын
My locals is definitely losing players cuz of snake eyes >_>
@sprintt13 ай бұрын
Thankfully, nobody plays snake eye at my locals
@Citizen_Nappa233 ай бұрын
@@sprintt1ppl do at my locals so built a deck that's a specifically counter for snake eyes. I don't mind possibly losing to a random rogue deck but snake eyes I burn to the ground.
@jeanpitre57893 ай бұрын
Snake eyes isn't the only one. Tenpai, melodius, voiceless, yubel. The game just ISN'T fun.
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel3 ай бұрын
Yeah mine used to be a 28 to 34 kinda local scene and it's down to 15 to 20 on its good days. Konami is killing so many decks with the poor card design and lack of responsibility with banning shit.
@reaper_exd74983 ай бұрын
@Citizen_Nappa23 i call BS. You have a magical anti snake eyes deck but that as much as you wanna tell us? I think you're just lying to make youself seem cool to internet randos.
@b.belmont81933 ай бұрын
I just came up with an idea!!! People should start ripping and crumbling up copies of Snake Eye Ash at the next Big event on the live camera shots, like they were doing with mystic mine!!! whether it's in America or Europe.
@gabudaichamuda25453 ай бұрын
Wait, seriously? That is ridiculous.
@Kratos02103 ай бұрын
Konami bans everyone who does such shit.
@b.belmont81933 ай бұрын
It got mystic mine banned last time 🤷♂️@@Kratos0210
@Darkmagecurt3 ай бұрын
@@Kratos0210 we should ban Konami
@Laid2Sleep3 ай бұрын
Better idea…grow up, be a big boy, and move on.
@GyzelE3 ай бұрын
On Master Duel it's far worse with Maxx C. I just surrender if i don't have the out to the bug. No use wasting my time.
@thedemonpit3 ай бұрын
My saying is that’s it’s not snake eyes that’s killing yugioh, they are just a side effect. The real killer is generics, and power creep. As when a deck can go into 5 generic negates, and still have multiple cards in hand(handtraps usually) you know that something is getting out of control
@tautanemone57253 ай бұрын
As long Konami continue to print generic engines extra deck monsters the game stare will remain the same.
@argudo07913 ай бұрын
Hate it when my Sunday feels like the most Tuesday day ever...
@easyygo30083 ай бұрын
These are the consequences of overhitting older decks to oblivion. If they are going to keep designing midrange decks with high consistency and a small engine, they need to stop overkilling older decks. Stuff like hitting apollousa and zealantis, is just adding to the issue as they will have to hit snake eyes eventually aswell and those cards won't be back any time soon. Stuff like Isolde ban is beyond absurd just a few months later. If they are going to force seasonal hits, they should do seasonal unhits faster
@arkuna7748Ай бұрын
Konami will not ban any Snake-Eyes card until the new 2024 tin is released, because all the Snake-Eyes cards will be definetly reprinted in the upcoming tin. Doesn't mater if the mechanic of this deck is overpowerd or not, it's all about the money and to sell the next product. So I would not estimate any bans around Snake-Eyes in the upcoming august banlist.
@tonberry26703 ай бұрын
Snake-Eyes is literally the Firewall Dragon situation all over again. The deck literally exposed every single thing fundamentally broken about this game and should be an eye-opener in regards to how card design should be dealt with. But we know it won't be. I understand that Konami wants to maximize the profits of their upcoming sets and waves of support. And what really sucks about this entire thing is that if it wasn't for Snake-Eyes, this would be an INCREDIBLY diverse format.
@chrislabedzski90763 ай бұрын
Me and my 4 of my freinds only play Yu-Gi-Oh against each other, we play without meta decks, without negating everything, no handtraps, no floodgates, and using very old cards,,, (examples) like mirror force or jar of greed, and yes even pot of generosity and see if we can win using it, or any card that players will never use ever in their lifetime,,, and trust me, that the most fun and entertaining duels you ever play, we will never go back to Yu-Gi-Oh against other players because its no fun waiting for 10 mins just to get negated every card you play if you dont have a handtrap booorrrrrinnggggg,,
@jonanderirureta83313 ай бұрын
Tenpai is degenerate, Snake Eyes too oppresive and Fiendsmith is too splashable... remember YCS Bologna format? That was so good it could become an alternative format like Edison or Goat.
@try35713 ай бұрын
the new background is so good keep it up
@M4nj03 ай бұрын
I always played cassual.Didnt want to Ruin my fun and passion for this game because for spinless ppl who only play the same greedy Strategie,just only for a meta and competition that was put back because of games like one piece and lorcana.I will always play my pure Illusion,melfy and even pure purely(without any second engine)Rather then all yugituber always complain about the current meta deck,while the Sold their soul and play themself.
@krisnayosep71213 ай бұрын
also i hate SE Flamberge & Subversion mechanic, able to push monster back to Spell/Trap zone and cant do anything about it after that for most of the decks for the rest of the game. WTF. im just gonna say Konami is about to run out of ideas, and they start making all kinds of 1 card combo starter, because thats what left from their creativity.
@BrolySnipez3 ай бұрын
Im old school, in turn i hate link an pendulum more, love xyz an synchros an fusions tho, but 30 monsters played in one turn is insane as far old school yugioh goes, it was alot harder to do all that back in the day, cards are banned bc links "cheat out" monsters, so strategetically snake eyes disrupts link entirely, so snake eyes it is. And SE with hand traps is fair game, i beat SE with hand traps and galaxy cydras i mean come on guys, so it can be done and it was a very fun game, just have to start utilizing them old schools everyone forgot with some new meta, support is slowly creeping, and yubel is crazy.
@Matter_Of_Fact3 ай бұрын
Find other ways to enjoy the game because this format is 100% garbage people are quitting left and right. The game is boring, too expensive, and Konami isn't going to change.
@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw3 ай бұрын
One of the biggest mistakes yugioh ever made in card design was steering away from large multi-card combos the. Crystal Beast and Lightsworn my beloveds.
@aceclover7583 ай бұрын
This is why we need tier formats Let the meta slaves play with each other and then complain about how not fun it is
@ecthelionv23 ай бұрын
I mean....people say the Tear Mirror was fun. And that was the last T0 format.
@scribdfukkyu96303 ай бұрын
@@ecthelionv2 played a tear mirror once and never again, he tried to go to battle phase during my turn (so many interactions he forgot it was my turn)
@n4b5ter413 ай бұрын
@@ecthelionv2 yeah make dweller and win. V fun
@truegrit92023 ай бұрын
@@scribdfukkyu9630😂😂😂 that happened to me before.
@TheMegaultrachicken3 ай бұрын
That would be nice but it would be complicated to do. How do you ensure someone playing digital bugs doesn't run into someone using snake eyes
@michaelhooper35583 ай бұрын
I don't understand why yugioh does this?? This happened with dragon rulers back in the day as well, and again around the time of Kozmo, tier zero decks are such a dumb idea
@danieltilleru35283 ай бұрын
It's because the only real support coming out has been fire and they nerfed Kash if Kash was still full power fire would be screwed
@autobotstarscream7653 ай бұрын
And so would everyone else, Full Power Ka$h Money is literally a villain Deck that takes your opponent's Deck, rips it up, throws it in their face, and tells them to go home and kill themselves.
@KingDae193 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765And Snake-Eyes doesn’t deserve that? 🤔 Honestly though, Ariseheart wasn’t bad if you ran TTT and/or Mind Control and Imperm
@autobotstarscream7653 ай бұрын
@djay3888 Basically the same arguments that I make for not banning App, without her omninegate bodyguards she's free real estate to bully with Spells and Traps, and yes, it would be funny to lock Snake-Eye in a room with Ka$h Money for 3 months, the rest of us would just have to sit out a format to avoid being collateral damage.
@danieltilleru35283 ай бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 I'm glad that they got rid of that stupid ball
@autobotstarscream7653 ай бұрын
@@danieltilleru3528 Which ball, Linkuriboh?
@quintessenceoflife78703 ай бұрын
As someone who tried making a rescue ace deck before snake eyes and diabellstar got released I felt good and happy with my deck. When I learnt of ways to improve it with those previously mentioned cards I went and did it when they got added. But to then learn the cards I added are now an annoying T0 deck it makes me sad. Rip rescue ace.
@rodneyman7113 ай бұрын
I just use the entire visas lore cards in one deck We need more veda Bring back big engines and cards were you pick 1 out of multiple effect options per turn Too many cards with 3 effects they can be used in one turn, make people choose and use iq
@zzz-king-awakening29363 ай бұрын
lol and what’s worst with ash because of the link fire familiar, ash is a plus for them they’ll summon ash from your own graveyard gaining additional body that’s also so happen to be a tuner
@clapmeta36033 ай бұрын
Konami has finally decided to ruin the game for good. They have no respect for their players and it's easy to see. They have no where to go from here but even more busted cards. Players should demand better
@dynastyentertainment82dyna203 ай бұрын
It's the fing truth this game was ruined beacuse over power creep and stupid over power deck that are degenerit and unfair the links monsters ruin a lot as well along with pendulums and Tommy hand traps
@ΕΡΕΒΟΣ-ζ7ω3 ай бұрын
the funny thing is that people play meta decks like snake eyes,tearlaments and others and because they win and go high rank thay think that thay are skilled players.!!
@yoshilicks24963 ай бұрын
I'm glad everyone is saying Snake Eye is ruining yugioh instead of Runick decks
@Fireywhiteboi3 ай бұрын
Can't wait for 60% snake eyes 25% yubel/fiendsmith
@Cqlr-q4l3 ай бұрын
Every time a new engine is reeleased yuguioh gets ruin because is broken konami doesn't really do its job balancing the game
@Perspicacity2 ай бұрын
womp womp there are outs like chaofeng for instance and the negates prevent the outs they may have
@Zack-2-Attack3 ай бұрын
Unless Konami does SOMETHING about these Serpent-Eyed Scoundrels, I might as well just give up and look for other games to play. Yu-Gi-Oh isn’t my main game anyway.
@Nightshroud83 ай бұрын
Yu-Gi-Oh is best when other decks are able to compete tier 0 formats suck
@HER03333 ай бұрын
Fuck this deck
@STEPHxCA3 ай бұрын
Pokémon TCG is much more lifeless of a game, but at least their events have better presentation and you don’t have to shell out hella money or have to worry about opening up with 4 handtraps and a starter
@axelt63122 ай бұрын
Pokemon tcg is bad ?
@tarikfretes75623 ай бұрын
This is the worst since zoodiac when 100% of top 32 were zoo variants
@daltonsharp69333 ай бұрын
I remember saying that kash whenever they came out broke the game. And now competive players are in a position of paying $1k for a deck to play until the next big booster set comes out. I disagree about kash those cards are so busted it's unreal. I quit this game because i cant go to a local with my friends anymore because its just snake eyes kash-fire king- or whatever.
@Noremak_Notrap3 ай бұрын
people playing snakes eyes are no better than konami not fixing the problem
@angelagonzalez82503 ай бұрын
Funny thing with tearlaments you could break their board with evenly matched since it wasn't that negate heavy. Snake eyes can negates 3 of them and still have room
@alec_8843 ай бұрын
My friends and I all stopped going to locals and events in favor of playing in-houses against each other. To us, (6 of us) we just get together and have our own locals instead each week, and it's way more fun. We all have 2 decks a piece as well to keep the variety up. Why go to fire spam at locals?
@Nephalem20023 ай бұрын
Modern Yugioh just isn’t playable. Sure we have Time Wizard formats but the main game has become such a horrendous shadow of itself. We peaked back in 2019 with TOSS and it’s been on a downward Spyral since.
@Citizen_Nappa233 ай бұрын
Games been ruined for a decade now
@zakariaelhimer13253 ай бұрын
TOSS was the best format for me
@MH_Zard3 ай бұрын
Time Wizard formats are also niche depending on area. And even as much as I enjoy say Edison, I wanna play new cards and evolve decks too. It's a shame just watching this game blow its foot off several times over after loving it for so many years.
@Overconfidential3 ай бұрын
Play Domain format
@coroanmon100233 ай бұрын
I see the pun here and I respect it.
@AnotherSyouz3 ай бұрын
so tearlaments format is better that this format? lmao this is so idiotic it hurts
@Rev-YGO3 ай бұрын
This is nothing new.
@gtafan1100103 ай бұрын
Personally i just don't play in any competitive way. Older decks only. Or heavily adjusted decks
@jeanpitre57893 ай бұрын
Themed decks are fun. They have to fit a specific theme or archetype with very limited generics and almost no handtraps. Maybe effect vieler. That's it.
@7DeadlyJinxs3 ай бұрын
"I understand not wanting to ban the new cards" Single most damaging sentence in this game.
@Princeinna5.03 ай бұрын
I always thought of it like this man in the yugioh anime you didn’t see every character playing the same deck it was diverse and I think that’s what originally makes yugioh fun and yugioh for what it used to be but I can’t stand seeing one deck for a long period of time shit gets boring if only other people and Konami realized that the game would be a lot more fun when a meta decks comes out mfs only play it to get wins and not actually enjoy the deck for the artwork for the game play mechanics to me that shit is boring asf
@dudono17443 ай бұрын
That's competitive for you. In casual you have more variety
@Princeinna5.03 ай бұрын
@@dudono1744 that’s true I don’t know man I respect the diversity just wish Konami would do that with competitive play and I know it’s possible all they have to do is just make 4-5 meta decks around the same time similar to toss format it’s not hard but seeing one deck is ass lol
@PengWinYoutube3 ай бұрын
I am still a noob in yugioh but I feel like people have already forgotten about tearelements yugioh isn't dead it'll just be like this till next ban list then it'll hopefully be okay again.
@Peridox2453 ай бұрын
Would a archtype restriction work so it can't be mixed with other archetypes but still can use hand traps
@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel3 ай бұрын
Yes this is exactly the problem I think needs to be solved, Konami is dead set on not restricting their decks you can flow from one combo to another without any cost or restrictions. This would be fine if the archetypes were slower and weaker but they are all so powerful and flipping between the best and the second best archetype engine is just obnoxious.
@Dethroner03 ай бұрын
The winner of YCS Indy said, If you aren't running 18 handtraps then you aren't running enough.
@benimaruj29093 ай бұрын
Please consider: Snash is coming as an Ulti soon and as long as this OTS pack is in circulation it is highly HIGHLY doubtful that they are going to hit this card.
@Orion12053 ай бұрын
I think the way snake eyes works is fine. Honestly they need to just keep banning omni negates that any deck can get into and keep making deck archetypes strong and unique so that games can be fun deck engines and combos vs engines and combos that dont just end on Apollousa and other non archetype locked negates. And all tech cards that are able to be used in the decks need to be supplemental and not stuff that just insta-blows out other decks. I want to see a world where its archetype vs archetype, or even mixed archetypes with with deck-builders flair to them that makes them unique but not blowouts. No omni negates/floodgates etc. should be possible to get to from any deck. Should all be archetype locked.
@egotisticalghost67453 ай бұрын
I hear this every time there’s a new meta.
@Moshuun3 ай бұрын
Everything is always ruining Yugioh, at some point.
@oscarrivero30603 ай бұрын
And Tear was way worse than Snake-Eye. It is when I personally felt like I couldn't play the game anymore and quit.
@DisasterLord3 ай бұрын
Tears alone? Nah Ishizu tears was a menace though
@christiandelgado21503 ай бұрын
I don’t under why they think it’s okay to give 1 singular card +3 crazy effects. If they gave each card 1/3 of the effects the deck would probably still be viable but not make Yugioh this monstrosity to play :( really hate what Yugioh is becoming.
@dudono17443 ай бұрын
We saw with Drytrons that 1 effect per card can be insane.
@christiandelgado21503 ай бұрын
@@dudono1744 I would rather take chances on a 1 card effect vs 3 on each card. Like cards nowadays have a summon effects. A going to the graveyard effects and one extra quick effect. Like JESUS FIN CHRIST
@dudono17443 ай бұрын
@@christiandelgado2150 I agree, just saying that 1 effect per card can be competitive.
@whomixdthatfire58283 ай бұрын
Grow men complaining gotta love it ❤
@sinner21333 ай бұрын
There’s a bit too much YuGiOh in my Snake Eyes TCG All jokes aside, my two favorite decks are Purrely and HERO (I know, weird combo). I really wanted to start playing HERO again since I haven’t touched the deck in more than a year, but I feel like I would severely nerf myself by playing that strategy simply on the fact that the deck cannot tank 3 hand traps in one turn, as well as the fact that I don’t have anywhere near enough space to fit in at least 12 hand traps, which is the bare minimum in this format. So, yeah, I’ll stick to my 18 hand trap purrely deck
@jeanpitre57893 ай бұрын
What purrely build are you running that has 18 handtraps? Purrely is my favorite deck and mine only fits 12. I could MAYBE fit more but then I'd need to remove the dark world engine which frankly makes the deck viable. Without reignbeaux and a single silvva in deck, you essentially will use your entire hand turn 1 and that's extremely dangerous when you know what decks can do on both turns. Darkworld helps keep you from eliminating your own hand just to play the deck because purrely 100% is a two-card combo deck regardless what ANYONE wants to say about it. None of the cards in the entire deck combo without a second piece and even one of its 2 main deck monsters is a gamble on if it even has an effect. If snake-eyes ash effect was essentially Purrely's effect and not it's actual effect, the deck would be tier 1 at best becuase it would no longer be a guaranteed 1 card combo and the card added wouldn't be something specific every time.
@gatometropr3 ай бұрын
there's like 20 yugitubers saying the same, will kashnami do something?
@makenaiyomi10833 ай бұрын
This is way I prefer locals and playing with friends. It's just so much more fun to pick a deck you like and duel against someone who's deck is about the same power level.
@chriswillis49603 ай бұрын
I remember people saying the best way to play is with a 70/30 ratio, 70% engine, 30% non. I feel like the game is being power crept to a 50/50 ratio where half your deck needs to be non-engine cards with the rest being a very powerful engine depending on the deck.
@3dkid853 ай бұрын
The best consistency hit they could have done - snake eye ash to one because it is the only cheap starter is not going to be hit thanks to them announcing it as the new Ulti. 😞. As if they are telling us we r never gunna hit this deck.
Theres a comparison to be drawn with competitive Pokemon in Gen 2 (video game not TCG). Snorlax is the tier 0 mon. He is more or less REQUIRED to be on every single team and the meta is warped around him. His bulk, damage, moveset, ability to heal, etc are solid even as far as gen 5 and are near oppressive in Gen 2. But its not generally considered a problem, why? Because Snorlax still adds interesting gameplay. He doesnt disable team comps, he doesnt pop out and Roar out your lead then oneshot whoevwr comes out, he doesnt have access to powerful tools like Spore. He has one defined role, that isnt niche, and hes the best at it, and just so happens to be SO good at it that he fits in every comp. You need a strategy to deal with Snorlax, but no team is just outright disabled by him. Any team, any mon, can deal with Snorlax given good play, its just much harder with others. Compare this to YuGiOh, and Yubel right now. Yubel is not only effectively immune to destroy effects (which includes a lot of negation effects), they also search themselves out. And they have a built in monster negate for their archetype... a negate with an upside that lets them accelerate their gameplan. You cant beat them down as YOU get punished for having tougher monsters. You cant go over them because youre forced to attack Yubel if possible. You cant destroy them because that brings out their even better cards. Is there counterplay? Sure. But it doesmt have a specific weakness unique to Yubel. Yes you can potentially drop Skill Drain and just beat them down the next turn for free, assuming you manages to play past their negates, but effect negation counters literally every deck. YGO has this problem of making archetypes too powerful not by making them offensive and exciting powerhouses, hut by making their defense and utility so high that good play means your opponent doesnt even get to try in the first place. You can throw out Gengar to dodge Snorlax's scary STAB Body Slam. You cant however declare a direct attack with Alteegeist Meluseek and send Yubel to bypass the destroyed effect as an exploitable weakness by a weaker archetype because Yubel is specifically designed to prevent its own counterplay. And all this WOULDNT be that powerful the entire archetype didnt hust search itself, shuffle the resources back into the deck to be searched again, repeat en masse every turn.
@Mattscardcorner2063 ай бұрын
Banlists are profit driven 90% of the time. Example is sharvara to 1, that deck did not need to be hit at all
@dixogaming9263 ай бұрын
Bah, same thing happened with Tear and Kashtira, is just this cycle Konami does that after snake eyes gets hit they will release the next op archetype and repeat the process,. I hope we get into a more diverse format but I highly doubt it.
@SoloFan873 ай бұрын
YGO has had cancer for years, And everyone in the community ignores it. To be truthful I always have been skeptical about YCS “Record Numbers” in attendance, Yet Konami never shows any charts. TBH if you want change in YGO start speaking with your $$$.