This didn't go as planned! | iRacing GT4 at Watkins Glen | Mercedes AMG GT4

[@jasenburke4135]

Sorry Dave, I think this one is on you. I would have expected you to hug the rumbles tighter since you werent leading on entry. He can't see what angle you're taking, so you have to keep it tighter - ofcourse, just my own opinion. Love your content, mate!

[@PCrofts]

Yeah 'fraid so. There was more space on the right to the apex than there was between the two cars on the previous left handler Dave demonstrated. Christian would have expected more room on his right there dave. One of those sim racing racing incidents that wouldn't have been an incident in real life.

[@leedrinkall2081]

Ye I thought same I think he left the room but you didn’t keep it tight enough

[@jwl3004]

Agree. Just a racing incident though. Tight racing in comparable cars always bring this type of incident.

[@samdajellybeenie14]

Beware the vortex of danger.

[@ninimaxx_heimkino]

Yes, this one is 100% on Dave... lots of room to this right side, Dave breaks to late, did not hit the Apex and open the steering to early. Not a big Problem ;-)

[@brettride4866]

Dave, I've been trying to catch up with your vids since I found you. Been watching your feet a lot and it's completely changed my driving style. I'm getting cleaner race's and better results. Thank you so much. Keep this great content coming. See you out there buddy

[@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast]

That's referred to as a fetish

[@kronos711]

Feet guys rise up

[@recklesspez]

Love the content Dave and you’re the fairest racer I’ve seen on KZbin but think this one is slightly on you. Looks like you drift out to early when he’s next to you. Keep you the good work 👍

[@skipjrracing]

Racing incident, but you drifted a little into him on entry and missed the apex a little, so I think you could have kept it tighter midcorner and avoided the situation. Being on the outside on that exit is pretty hairy, so I don't blame him for trying to be as tight as possible.

[@TheOnyxian]

That battle with Balkn was honestly epic. Awesome racing by you both.

[@waynecummins9155]

The driver of the car on the outside knows there's more chance of being squeezed and being drifted into by the inside car. Therefore, caution is needed by the outside car. He drove correctly around the outside but the percentage is more in favour of the inside car. That's the nature of the beast !! The car looks like fun Dave. Keep up the good driving mate !!

[@lgmuniz]

Apart from the eventual carnage, these GT4s look like a lot of fun to drive. Giving it a chance asap. Great stuff as always, Dave.

[@rpcorp]

I agree with Jason that you needed to keep a tighter line around the boot to give space to the outside car who was entitled to room. Enjoyable race overall and you’ll get ‘em next time 👍

[@regibson23]

Racing incident but yeah I think you understeered up into him. You pulled the full Hamilton! At the chute he was all over the inside curb and you were mid track. So that's what created the space. At the toe where the contact happened you were far off the inside curb and he was mid track so there was no space.

[@scottmeredith3359]

I did one of these races earlier this week and it was an absolute CLOWN SHOW. People causing crashes, then causing more crashes trying to take advantage of others crashes. Then being told to "shut the *$%& up" by one of the clowns as I pointed out the clownery on display. Great times

[@neeooww]

Get out of the bottom split😂

[@Smogez]

I had a race earlier that definitely had some carnage but for the most part it was clean and extremely fun racing! Stick with it

[@davecarsley8773]

Almost sounds like you were playing iRacing.

[@altf4channel475]

Telemetry shows that you're still overlapping brake and throttle on corner entry. Very good lap always a pleasure. Thanks Dave.

[@MrRichalu]

I watched this race on Dan's YT channel yesterday. One of his chat guys coined a new name for you. Dave Cameroff. Of course, they all thought you were dead and gone. Good to see that you finished. As for you and Christian, I have to agree with others. While it was a hard race for position, you did seem to slip off the apex, eliminating that 2 foot gap that should have been there. You could have kept it tighter right. But also yes, he was squeezing a bit much. In the end, a racing incident by two drivers who wanted the same thing.

[@davecamyt]

Chat coming up with the goods as always...

[@firstjayjay]

the car body clipping in this game is on a another level :S

[@Jahmesss]

Remember watching this race on Dan’s stream, sure was quite an eventful one. Glad to see it from your perspective. As for the incident with the #19 car at the end, he was slowing down along the back straight towards the hairpin so he could take out the car he did. Unfortunate to see it in top split racing but otherwise a great race!

[@jwatson85]

I genuinely smiled when you overtook slaven - always great content, thanks dave

[@Deniz1923]

Dave have you checked Dan Suzuki's video of this race ? They were talking over there about car #19. Allegedly, he waited a whole lap driving slow, to get lapped and take revenge on someone. Permaban material i u ask me. Dan said iracing glue about your incident with Ortega. I tend to agree with him.

[@justint5387]

You tracked out into him

[@robertc869]

It’s a tough one. I would definitely open the steering in the same way. He has space to the outside and actually I would expect him to use it (it is preferential to his exit speed) .. when you’re the one crashed out it’s always sad. Hanging on the outside there (back and to the left) is usually a losing hand. Racing incident. (I’d have pinched him more in the previous corner too😆)

[@davecamyt]

Yes you can get a real good exit on that turn by going wider which puts you in a great position for getting it done into the next tight left if you don't clear before the right

[@shoots8080]

At the end there the 19 slows for awhile to take out someone. Watched Dan’s vid it’s what allowed him to grab a podium. You should take a look it’s pretty blatant.

[@racekar80]

9 was an assassin

[@waedy]

Just did that too. P19 to 6, overtook only three by myself ^^

[@cjamesenorf]

Slaven getting roasted continuously 😂🙈

[@nigeldorman414]

Cracking dice with Slaven Dave

[@benjaminduncan4286]

Welcome to iracing folks

[@lewisgordon1490]

Incident w/ Christian is your fault IMO. There was 2-3 ft on the inside b4 touching the curb that u didn’t use. Also u turned out a bit more than needed ~ 1/2 second b4 u made contact.

[@caiobailoni99]

Hey mate, I already had similar situations with this same driver. He doesn’t give u room and keep pushing until either u give the position or it crashes into the wall.

[@dirkreski3947]

HI grandpa 😉....nice racing......accident was unfortunately....thought you understeered at the entrance of the corner and thats the reason what happened........to me racing incident probably 60:40 on your side

[@gregmcdonald1021]

a lot of sends for such a high rated race

[@irrotational]

So this is what top split racing looks like (I'm referring to the incident reel at the end with total punts left, right, and centre)

[@ButterBiscuitsRacing]

I love it dave keep it up

[@z0mbieKebab]

Its on you, he left the space, you didnt use it all. Racing incident final verdict though as it was hard racing that went wrong

[@HangmanOfficialUploads]

Personally it seems like you had understeer and couldn't help tapping him, Dave. Nothing to worry about.

[@kronzomg]

You didn't realize you were racing with Shane Van Gisbergen?

[@simracingwithhandicap502]

This is the definition of a racing incident. Such a shame that happened could have been a very good result!

[@Kronikman07]

I just did the 30 min gt4 race on watkins glen with the mercedes and had the best race so far. 3rd place. almost 2nd but i spun 2nd place and waited for him at the finish line.

[@mikemckinnon8664]

So I've only driven the Cayman & it pushes/understeer horribly, are the rest that way too? I've heard they are.

[@KindJoe]

50/50 on the collision. You both could have given a little more room. Shit happens in close racing tho.

[@Voncid]

Dave did you say freebees at the start? you sure got your wish.

[@AFAR2809]

neither of you was at fault. I think it was the racing god's fault for this one. hahaha seriously though dave, good one there. You showed us how you put your head down despite a big incident. hunkered down, managed to get a good fight with Slaven, got a place back at least.

[@davidius74]

That was just a racing incident and the stewards would put both of you at fault. Was a real 50/50. Maybe they might say you were should of backed off as you weren't far enough forward when he started to turn in, but you had the speed and made the turn. Was only as you were exiting. I am thinking it might have been a little bit of prediction code too which made you turn left so much after contact but I think contact was inevitable anyway.

[@studlydudly]

I think that was all "Dirty" Dave Cameron's fault! Nah racing incident.

[@Meadie69]

50/50 I reckon.

[@evertdevries8814]

I'm with you on this one and disagree with others on it. Christian was well back by your rear wheel and should have conceded by then. He brought it in too tight coming out of the turn, not you going too wide. Sorry Christian :-), but that's my vote

[@bartylobethal8089]

I think you went into that corner a bit fast, late and wide.

[@pandachuzero]

great vid!

[@SizzlingPopcorn]

That’s on Christian turning in too much.

[@darrenpowell8229]

Reality is it was your corner to begin with its always a risk to be on the outside of a corner but you picked your line and its hard to move anywhere on the inside with your car loaded up mid corner unless you back off. Your line may have been slightly wide but he still had more room on the outside, he knew you were there and if he had triple monitors would have known exactly how close you were and didn’t attempt to avoid a collision. He seemed to be a bit erratic before the hit and he featured a few times on the highlights reel id say he had a bit of a shocker.

[@craigyates4451]

Yep sorry Dave I don’t often say you’re in the wrong. But you did open the steering a tad early therefore didn’t give the other car room on the outside. 😥

[@codefk8711]

Dude you have the temper of a Yellow Lab. I'd would of flipped out if that happened to me, and probably turned off the game. And to instantly think it may have been your fault? I wish I had your temperament lol

[@bobbaker1253]

I think you drifted out on him more than he might have pinched you.

[@Simon-rz3mf]

imo 60/40 on you. Opened up steering too soon

[@Doors4299]

Yeah that incidents on you Dave. Where was the red car supposed to go?

[@Mark3989]

voice went gurly haha

[@kostasracinggarage519]

You were on the inside and slightly in front at the time of contact so you have right of way. Although you did have more room to the right. He also could have held his line a bit better. Racing incident no ones at fault.

[@racekar80]

Dave what do you think is the best car this season?

[@unscrecon1]

Do prefer the GT4 over the GT3 personally.

[@carlkalman5479]

Dave, from what I saw, I’ll adjudicate a racing incident with 90% Christian’s fault (he could’ve backed out) and 10% yours for squeezing him a bit on the exit as you did have wheels on the grass drivers left, but the racing line and corner was 100% yours.

[@craigf1tz]

Racing incident I reckon. Maybe it's just my mentality that's wrong but I'd never trust someone on the inside not to understeer out when going around the outside, I think you should always give a little more room than you would in real life. Once your cars were hooked that weird crash was inevitable.

[@miguelruiz_]

Dave, I’m starting a GT4 league this week and I’m curious as to which car you’d recommend I’d purchase and drive of the five. Could you give me your top two?

[@davecamyt]

Fastest overall I'd say is the Merc (or it was). I prefer driving the Porsche McLaren 😁

[@miguelruiz_]

@@davecamyt Thank you boss man. I bought the Porsche after I watched your uploaded race at Spa, but definitely felt like some of the other cars had me beat on some areas of the track. I appreciate your response boss

[@WaskiLP]

Tbh you didn't gave him more room the previous corner. The main difference is that he hugged the curb while the turn later you are a meter away from it. The position of the outside car is nearly the same in both corners. But none to blame exclusively. Just one of those simracing race incidents. Unlucky, nothing more

[@Booti007]

Sorry Dave, I think that one was on you. With a car on the outside, maybe a tighter exit was needed. Would have been interesting to see the off board of the next lap though, where you go round the outside of Lawrence in the same place.

[@vikingkombat9389]

I just started iRacing. Approxx how is it going to take before I can race in the GT3 glass? I raced ranked for 6 hrs last night, followed you rank up model.Did went damn well, even ended up on the podium in most races. Yet I barely gained 0.20points in rookie. most the people on there were D class with only a few Rookies. Good fun though.

[@davecamyt]

Same process in every licence. You need to get up to B 👍

[@vikingkombat9389]

@@davecamyt Grind

[@WayWorthRacing]

9 had tons of room and yet chose to give you none, almost looked intentional , just saying hindsight is 20/20

[@studio9guy]

Haha! "Cause he's usually right at the back." Nice race all in all, but I think you might be the bad guy regarding your incident.

[@MrDarrenw16]

Dave, I think you got a bit of mid-corner understeer looking at the onboard and you guys just met as a result, It's a racing incident though. The way you got stuck on each other at the corner exit was I think just an Iracing collision detection thing which just made the crash worse for both of you. Glad you posted the race though that last crash where your man pulled out after letting someone by, Was deliberate and should be protested, Check his video and you will see what I mean.

[@davecamyt]

Which video?

[@cyclistman6358]

Me thinks this one is on you Evad. A little off of the line. That’s racing.

[@CWill911]

Sorry Dave, I gotta be honest and say I think it might be slightly on you. You weren’t tight enough to the apex and that two feet you spoke about on the previous corner were taken by you drifting out. Just my opinion though. Love the content

[@davecamyt]

There was room to my right and to Christians left. Who should be tighter and who should be wider? Probably both

[@CWill911]

@@davecamyt I think the expected is the person on the inside takes the tighter line. However, there’s probably nothing in the rules to say that so you’re probably right.

[@TimmyOneShot]

How do you get to all the incidents at the end of the race? I've never seen a button for that so I assume it's a mod?

[@robcampbell6099]

in the controls section of the menu. you have all you brake bias, headlights, TC settings etc. on the bottom right you can use the preset key controls for camera controls or set your own. There is specific next and previous incident settings there

[@TimmyOneShot]

Thanks a lot @@robcampbell6099

[@danielrobb2381]

i done this race last night had people blocking/ smashing into people was a joke!

[@x420utlaw]

Comments section: I am looking to purchase my 1st vehicle and wondering which would get me in the most races. I'm class C so I was thinking either the Ferrari GT3 or Porsche GT3 as they have their own events and can be used in other events as well. Thinking about one of these GT4 cars as well. Cheers!!!!

[@pi-or-die]

What series did you race to get out of D class? I'm looking for my first car to buy as well because I realized that the rookie Mazda class doesn't count toward MPR.

[@TheOnyxian]

Ferrari would be a good choice. The porsche GT3 isn't the easiest thing to drive well as it's a bit of a handful.

[@sloth_energy]

@@pi-or-die Note you can still use the MX5 in the Production Car Sim-Lab Challenge to get out of Class D

[@reecewatt4212]

Why do I never hear your tyres screeching Dave? Do you have the SFX turned down or are you just a smooth operator?

[@davecamyt]

Yes I turn the tyres down. From on board irl footage you don't really hear them

[@winodogs9691]

We all know you're a Gent Dave and will apologise when Wrong, maybe you should have a word with your alter ego Mac. Poor ol' Gordon Ramsey ;)

[@ardiantowibowo269]

I wanna know who said about Dave CamerOff..? 😅

[@TheTrianim]

Yeah, I think this one is on you, Dave. Sorry.

[@Snekonic]

My voice went ultrasonic LOL

[@mrmoyd3072]

MAYBE the first hit is your fault. I'm not super familiar with valid lines into there... But that was a 0x whatever... crashing you on exit I just see as retaliation. He had plenty of room and could easily move there full throttle. He had no standing on track there to hold you narrow IMO. He was being a bit of a jackass with his defending to the previous guy that passed him too.

[@chrisr236]

I'd like to see Dave review user submitted iRacing replays and give some constructive criticism on how they could improve. I'll go first 😃

[@dereklchung]

Racing incident.

[@bm01]

Your fault 😅, you trusted on the voice..

[@carlkalman5479]

Silly question, but is that the real Shane Van Gisbergen, the 888/Holden Racing Team Supercars driver? If so, is there anything he doesn’t drive?

[@kronzomg]

That's him. Doesn't seem many people have noticed the current V8SC Champion on the grid.

[@carlkalman5479]

@@kronzomg I guess because he has dropped the "Van", I guess to be anonymous or fit the name in. The reason I asked is that you know how fans like to "borrow" the name of a well-known driver for online racing....there are so many Kimi's out there in GT Sport/GT from non-Scandinavian countries.

[@dst_20]

its the verstappen style of racing... leave no space... pinch the opposition to the inside and leave no margin for error for each driver. pity as you looked confortable in that 5-10 pack

[@rickswanracing3139]

After the initial contact mid corner i think he could have checked up a little and still had ample room to stay on the pavement, and likely would have avoided the second contact that pit-maneuvered you. Two guys jockeying for same piece of real estate :)

[@funkytransport]

this one on you i think Dave... sorry :)

[@Iceking007]

You drifted wide on Christian, you were not on the racing line. You kept your speed up, and you pressed him. Although you had the lead, it was a bit of a Senna move; ordinarily you are too nice, but you carried too much speed for that scenario.

[@davecamyt]

I disagree. Christian turned in and pushed my rear left which caused me to steer to the left. Nothing I could do there.

[@DevilTX66]

@Dave Cam you got a lovely scam artist with your name. It replied to my other comment. Saw it on others as well.

[@SilasVanHelsing]

❤️

[@ch0psracing]

In all honesty Dave, if Ortega showed a little more respect and gave a little more room then it wouldn’t haven’t ended that way. Unfortunately Ortega seems to have a reputation for being involved in a lot of incidents.

[@DevilTX66]

I blame Christian for that incident. He kept his line too sharp around that turn. If he had widened it you both make it thru. Not intentional tho.

[@jacquesduplessis8944]

Christians fault

[@WayWorthRacing]

9 had tons of room and yet chose to give you none, almost looked intentional , just saying hindsight is 20/20

[@WayWorthRacing]

9 had tons of room and yet chose to give you none, almost looked intentional , just saying hindsight is 20/20