This doesn't look right.... but it's AWESOME! - LG DualUp Ergo Monitor

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LG's latest monitor, the DualUp, is exciting. It has an aspect ratio of 16:18 or 8:9, which is 2560 x 2880, effectively two 1440p monitors stacked on top of each other. So it's basically a vertical monitor, which might make you cringe at first, but after using it, we love it!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - It doesn't feel or look right, but...
0:48 - Unboxing and assembly
1:58 - I/O ports
2:11 - Ergo stand
2:51 - Cable management and extension
4:06 - Sponsor - Seasonic!
4:33 - Panel issue?
5:03 - Monitor display setup and specs
5:33 - Productivity use perspective (Apple and PC)
7:24 - Display impressions
8:09 - Gaming vertically impressions
9:00 - Final thoughts

[@nufmatt]

Next video: Ultra Wide Monitor, but vertically and gaming on it.

[@MrGrannyStylez]

playing tetris..

[@sonickautschuhe]

@Anna ♪ don’t Click, just shït

[@thischannelisforcommenting5680]

@@MrGrannyStylez designed for TikTok

[@PortocaliusMaximus]

dual 21:9 vertically side by side

[@jbasasa]

😂😂😂😂

[@spdcrzy]

This is DEFINITELY a panel for engineering. CAD, FEA, CFD, or other simulation/analysis work would be WONDERFUL on this monitor.

[@SkyDev2]

That, or opening an ide/code docs on itz that would be cool

[@MatisseRAdar]

virtual air traffic control, yeah

[@joehelfrich7456]

I do ecommerce QA, and the prospect of having JIRA, the test plan, and the site all in one field of view is definitely interesting.

[@thewelderdude]

I would love to have this at work when i'm working with PLC ladder logic. it would be just right i think.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

And the occasional holdover old FPS gamer who insisted on hanging onto their old monitors because they say the 5:4 aspect ratio conferred advantages, and this is kinda that on steroids.

[@JessPatton]

I wish LTT and short circuit would pull in some of the devs from floatplane to evaluate some of these productivity products from a developers perspective. I think two of these could be pretty awesome for a developer setup, would love to see what they think about it.

[@CorazuYT]

I'm strongly considering this for my side monitor to replace the normal screen I have vertical. I still want my ultrawides though.

[@ochiix]

I am thinking three of these when they come out instead of a 6 monitor setup as it removes the deadspace between the top and bottom rows. Might even be better than the two ultrawides stacked on top of each other for ergonomics and usability (productivity in my case). Would love to see 75 or 80hz version as well so no LED light flicker issues but maybe you can overdrive it.

[@faridwakim]

I would love to see that happen, especially that a big part of the ltt community are devs, me included

[@hassan_codes]

Exactly! We always get the perspective of gamers and video editors but rarely devs

[@amellowcoin]

I was literally about to comment that this would be great for Devs... I'd love one of these

[@thiccboi6211]

This is actually a great monitor for web development or any form of coding to be honest. Reading a long code file would be nice in this.

[@anthonydellascio9085]

I'm learning coding now and last night I was like "I want a taller monitor but turning one sideways is too much." then, boom, this video popped in my feed. This is perfect for coding!

[@Robertthebob]

Yeah.. I have 3 wide screen. 2 stacked with a vertical one on the side, initially intended for code and its just too tall. This would be so much better.

[@channelofstuff6662]

you can just turn a 16:9 on its side.

[@aDifferentJT]

Yeah, I use 9x16 but I’d like a bit more width.

[@yamiteru4376]

Or you can just write clean code and don't have big files that require a new monitor 🤔

[@4aty1]

I always love the impromptu visits from other members of LMG. It reinforces the non-scripted, casual vibe of Short Circuit, and it's always great to hear another opinion on the product as well.

[@matcarpes]

yesssss

[@GatoPaint]

this monitor but 144 hz I'd totally buy it , and a option that u could separate the monitor in half so its being recognized as u were connecting 2 monitors instead of just 1

[@artemis4575]

i feel like this would be widely used in sim racing to make windows or something.

[@cup_and_cone]

What it really needs is two display inputs for one screen, that way your PC can handle it as two separate monitors. It would be way more practical and easier to snap windows to exactly half to split the screen.

[@FARBerserker]

If it is a work model, it should come with the needed software on a disct. my 3x 21:9 screens from LG all had a driver disc with a utility on it that allows me to split the screen 2 or 4 ways and to have side by side input i think . . not sure, never used that part, but i did split the screen sometimes.

[@Kuzushi42]

Yeah if this monitor supported anything above 60hz I'd be submitting my order right now.

[@Gunks_]

Most business monitors like this do have software that can logically split it. For example, I had one of the Dell 49" 5120x1440p monitors and it has the Dell Display Manager software that lets you create "Borders" and Windows can snap to it just like it if it was a separate monitor. No idea if LG supports this, but they likely do.

[@ratmdex]

"I'm right handed but i'm kind of busy" best quote on LTT

[@sgc123]

Or, "I don't have enough length"

[@sgc123]

3:43

[@Nyt0x00]

For gamedev it does sound ideal! Thanks for mentioning it, it's a use case often left out in LTT reviews, understandably as it's not something you do in your day to day. Just for that I might give this screen a try, WFH has made me on the lookout for anything that can help my workflow! Also that aspect ratio looks nice to play retro games without (too much) stretching or black bars!

[@thomaswijnands867]

Damn, this monitor is really the programmers dream, able to see your terminal and a decent amount of code🤣😎

[@SlitDiver]

I would agree, however only if you have more than 1 monitor. Having extra width in programs like Unity is far better than height. Pair this puppy up with an ultrawide, or another 2 of these and you got a programmer's dream setup

[@Brianjp93]

No I like to set maxLineWidth to 2000 in my .prettierrc so this just isn't gonna cut it

[@shirro5]

I got my ultrawide because at 3840x1600 I could comfortably have two full hd windows side by side (web page, virtual machine etc) and get more lines of text on screen than 1080 allows and there are several good ways to tile it. I like squarer laptop screens because I don't want to look at code through a letterbox but I don't know working with just one of these would compare with multi-monitor or ultra wide.

[@TheScarvig]

@@Brianjp93 if you have single lines of code that long on a regular basis i would dread your coding style... even with names that speak for themselves only very few logic statements and comments should ever be this long

[@brentgreeff1115]

I have been using 24" displays in Portrait for years. - I hate having to scroll PDFs or google-docs. - The ultimate imo - would be 3 X 22" 4K monitors in portrait. - so you get 6K on the horizontal and 2K on the vertical. - of course if I can get that as a single panel - even better. - yea - maxLineWidth=120 - newspapers have put text into columns for a reason. - unless you dont care about other people being able to read your code - which is pretty typical for programmers.

[@commandtheline]

Being an arcade guy I'm always interested in monitors that hit closer to a square. We really need a large format 4:3 monitor. Something around the 25 to 27 in. What would be really great if a manufacturer would make a retro panel that includes some really good scaling for retro gaming

[@RickProc]

Yea I'm in on that, would love to see them built it into like a standup arcade unit or something

[@shadowtheimpure]

Wouldn't even need much on the scaling side if the monitor was a proper 4:3 aspect ratio where the resolution was perfectly divisible by the original resolution of the content. With perfect integer upscaling to the native resolution of the panel, the image will always be crisp with basically no processing needed.

[@commandtheline]

@@shadowtheimpure yes that would be even better. What kind of inputs would you want to see? I would think component, composite, S-Video, scart, VGA, HDMI. Or perhaps some sort of combination by way of adapter or dongle

[@rhebucks_zh]

@@commandtheline HDMI and USB-C DP PD (FOR POWER TOO)

[@shadowtheimpure]

@@commandtheline It really depends on how much they want to target the retro market. The most economical would be HDMI, DP, and a 'dongle' port.

[@jernaugurgeh451]

I see this as a side screen, to complement a 32" 4K display, especially when doing web dev and game dev. I've tried using a 27" both in landscape and portrait and it's too much, either too wide or too tall, but this would be ideal. I want one.

[@llothar68]

I have a Iiyama 40" as main screen and two horizontal stacked 27" to the right. I'm using it only for programming. It's perfect. But i had to pay 1000 Euro extra for a KVM 4 port switch that let me toogle between Linux/Windows/MacOS. Can't use VMs for this as the higher the screen resolution the slower the VM. Don't want to try it with three 2 or 4k monitors.

[@BigBrezzy]

Yeah, I'm actually seriously contemplating getting this monitor to be a side piece to my 34'' ultrawide.

[@Samdevay]

What is best monitor under 1300-1400 USD around 32 inches screen size? Usage: , Ai modelling and machine learning models, mostly Entertainment and casual gaming in free time( I game rarely due to work) .... I am kind of looking for desktop monitor too where I can code and visulize models for artificial intelligence and data science and As I spend most time on desktop, I usually watch my Netflix and stuff here only I am not much into competetivie gaming as I game once a week when time permits so having clear and crips documents and better content creation and consumption is the choice I want my documents and reseatch papers and reading experience also to be great

[@hdwblade]

I remember during the transition to 16:9 from square, I complained because I thought we were losing part of the movies/shows. Then everything moved that way and I had no choice but to move on. Kinda loving this (when on its side). I hope they make another with a higher refresh, oriented on the side!

[@santiagoramirez5450]

@@malice5121 I still do that with my friends on special occasions lol, actually decided to build an itx build just for it, that and desk space

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

@@malice5121 The good old days, me and my friends always player cs 1.6 We were very young at the time and most of us sucked at the game but most importantly we had fun

[@MonsterSound]

They should have made the top and bottom bezels the same width so it would look good when rotated 90.

[@jokuemt]

I have 16:9 monitor sideways(secondary), and it has similar bezels and it doesn't bother me at all.

[@iris4547]

@@jokuemt it was the mac guy that complained about it. i likewise have a 16:9 in portrait mode and the bezel doesnt bother me in the slightest. mac people are all about showing that apple logo off in starbucks, form over function.

[@bbrunorocha]

or, a 1:1 monitor :)

[@PantyDropper69]

If you use two of these though, the single bezel is better. But both on the outside, otherwise you have a thick line between the two

[@cooluser23]

Or have gotten rid of the bezels

[@raza78695]

I remember when I saw the old square monitors in my graphics design class and joked about it with my professor, it was at that moment when I found out that monitors like these are meant for autocade and others like engineering and modelling work stuff like that, I'm probably not saying the use case properly but man when we did furniture modelling on both the wide and the square monitors I could see the difference so yes as its for work only

[@Crlarl]

Also great for other productivity programs. Word and Excel are great, website scrolling is better. Man, those 5:4 monitors were great.

[@camjkerman]

Imo they'd also be great for graphic design. Think about it, you're working on a document that's an A-format rectangle, on a 16:10 display like all the MacBooks in this damn industry, you're document in Illustrator will be pretty small on the screen, but there'll be a tonne of dead space around it that just isn't suitable for anything. With something like this (or even just marginally more square like a 3:2 a la Surface products) you've got a lot less of that dead space and you can view your document larger on the same screen size.

[@KIRANMSthampi]

@@camjkerman yeah agreed. I would love to give it a try at least once for design work. Sm posts, print works in any a3, a4 sizes, brochures, flyers etc mostly are still square or portrait. I can't be 100% sure whether I would like ps or ai in this screen format but would be very interesting to try.

[@superslash7254]

Because the monitors aren't "wide", they're "short". so-called 1440P is only just now getting back to the vertical resolution we used to have on 1600x1200 screens in 2001.

[@nicholasvinen]

@@superslash7254 that's why 2560x1600 is so much better than 2560x1440 although I prefer 3840x2560 over either of those.

[@aslikhari]

This monitor can apparently also be used like 2 monitors vertically mounted, hence the name "Dual Up". This can be done from the nipple joystick at the bottom of the monitor. I think they should have touched upon that just see how it performs, cause that is what I wanted to see. Like if I use PS5 on top and work at the bottom how it would look and work...

[@vectrobe]

having three of these would actually be amazing considering it would be the same as 2x6 'eyfinity' but without the middle bezels, which also means in games you'll get the full UI unscathed. Even just two of these would be great for productivity, and even only one alone for a full streaming setup (game on bottom, chat etc on top) sounds good.

[@ThomasTomiczek]

Planning to get this as my main ;) Cost is to my knowledge around 2000 USD each - not too bad.

[@fruchtalarm9128]

3:43 sorry to hear bro!

[@danielandrade4296]

The back and forth exchange of ideas and opinions in this video is amazing. So smart to put 2 people with different needs, different inputs and backgrounds to analyze the same product. Loved every second of it.

[@audiophilstuff]

For a productivity/creative oriented display, taking a look at the ins/outs of the listed KVM functionality would have been interesting.

[@MayaYa]

this would actually be a great replacement for my left and or right monitors seems awesome to have next to my gaming monitor for discord, obs, twitchcat, ect

[@the_wiki9408]

This is kind of a silly aspect ratio, but I would like to see classic 4x3 and 5x4 monitors return. They make great second monitors off to the side of a main monitor. A second 16:9 makes you turn too far to the side to see the whole screen. A 4:3 monitor also has more height, so you can match the height of your 16:9 monitor with a smaller display diagonal. For example, a 19.5" 4:3 monitor is the same height as a 24" 16x9.

[@misatzu]

There's absolutely nothing silly about a 16:18 aspect ratio. It gives you double the height while preserving the (now) standard 16:9 ratio of each half screen should there be any need or use for it - I'm doing a lot of video-to-video comparisons so for that, amongst other things, it would be perfect - which is basically what the whole part of the video that made sense was about. This panel is 20.6" tall which you can perfectly height-match with a 42" 16:9 display ... which is what I am going to do, instead of following through my original plan of upgrading from 2x 27" to 2x 32".

[@mbuhplus7800]

Silly because you're not the target market

[@the_wiki9408]

@@mbuhplus7800 The whole video was them basically calling it silly.

[@alexandergoldman]

@@the_wiki9408 Except "everyone who walked by wanted it for different use cases". Thus again, silly cuz you're not the target market. It's not all about you man...keep an open mind

[@eio4528]

It's definitely silly. As a doughnut maker I really need a circular monitor with a hole in it.

[@exturkconner]

I work in a medically related call center. And we often have two monitors. One with research and one with our tracking/call monitoring program. This would be killer for it. Having your research on the bottom half where it's easier to read but still having the top half fully accessible would be great. The fact that it's not super high refresh would be fine. It's higher pixel density then 1080 would be nice as well. I dig it.

[@arkadidp]

What's stopping you from doing this with a regular, large monitor?

[@exturkconner]

@@arkadidp Because a regular large monitor doesn't have the aspect ratio of two monitors stacked ontop of each other?

[@aleks138]

Two monitors stacked on top of each other have the correct aspect ratio

[@ViXoZuDo]

I really like it as a 2nd monitor or maybe 3rd. I feel it's the best vertical configuration instead of having a 9:16 like a regular 16:9 monitor in portrait mode.

[@georgehornsby2075]

Yep I bought a 16:10 low blue light monitor for document reading a couple of years ago which works pretty well in portrait mode but this would be ideal as a second monitor (assuming cost isn't a concern ;)). 16:9 is just a little narrow for vertical use.

[@emu071981]

This is one of those "how did no one ever think of this before?" monitors. I think it would go great bracketing a stacked ultrawide setup or a single large panel if you needed that much screen real estate.

[@lesto12321]

we did think about this, early monitor where 4:3, pretty close to this ratio. Then the Cinema nation attacked

[@kevinwells9751]

@@lesto12321 Cinema yes, but also gaming. Anything that requires any amount of peripheral vision is so much better served by a 16:9 or wider aspect ratio as they found out using this one

[@lesto12321]

@@kevinwells9751 yes, i was talking about sim and strategic games that instead would be better served from a squared monitor for surrounding awareness. Also may be for 3d shooter like space sims, where vertical of the game is more important than normal shooter. Surely gonna take weeks to get use to that monitor before it does not feel weird

[@tj10777]

That's exactly what I was thinking. Two of these 16:18 panels flanking my stacked Dell 38" ultrawides would be awesome.

[@culbeda]

Square monitors have existed for a while, but they have been ridiculously expensive for the resolution (Eizo EV2730Q - Over $1000 *USED* - 26.5 1920x1920) The LG is far more reasonable and the resolution makes perfect sense for pros looking for something between 1440p and 4K.

[@RubyRoks]

This would be incredible for audio work. I get the host's comment about wanting more width to see the whole song/project, but with my setup in Reaper, this would be incredible for having the mixer and my tracks on one screen. I've never hurt for horizontal space, even on a traditional 16:9 panel, but have always wanted more vertical space

[@koningskeizer]

I think their comment about real estate isn’t accurate if you were to compare it to a regular monitor. Let’s say you normally have a 2560x1600 or 2880x1800 screen this would still net you more.

[@ChampionBob]

Oh man, I would love this thing as a second monitor. For both productivity as a secondary screen during gaming, I think it would be awesome! Think about the amount of lines of code I can see... If I did a 9:16 aspect ratio, the lines would get cut off, but this has the width to make up for it!

[@TheRoundedTable]

If you want lines, you can just flip your current monitor. But imagine the amout of COLUMNS. No more of this disgusting horizontal scroll bar... NO MORE. (I limit my code to a certain column, but my co-workers don't)

[@thoughtsofapeer]

True. I run 9:16 on my 2nd monitor. Would love to have a screen that was just a bit wider so websites and stuff doesn't break. Even youtube is kind of broken on 9:16 lately because they info under the video disappears.

[@brutalysk6115]

OR you could just get a 4k monitor in portrait mode ?

[@ChampionBob]

@@brutalysk6115 Still stuck with the 9:16 aspect ratio then, which is too skinny.

[@RiggedBananaGaming]

This would be awesome to have at work for coding

[@liamgalt]

Another reviewer commented on how using the vertical space instead of the horizontal space to expand into is in some cases better for productivity since it occupies more of the center of your vision, resulting in less neck movement, and therefore more comfort. I would definitely consider getting one of these, I love the concept!

[@dkd123]

I could definitely see a 1920x2160 lower cost version being super popular for office work (web browsers and spreadsheets and stuff like that). I work mostly in web browsers and having to scroll less but still have full HD width would be awesome.

[@LimitedWard]

This is one scenario where having windows 11 would be really advantageous since W11 supports top and bottom window snapping for vertically oriented displays.

[@TheJFadelli]

Win power toys provides an incredibly easy way to snap windows into any configuration. Check it out for real

[@misatzu]

There's a ton of free window snapping tools out there. Personally I use WinSplit Revolution, which can not only snap half width/height to left/right/top/bottom, but also to all corners and even 1/3 or 2/3 width utilizing intuitive NumPad shortcuts, plus it works with multimonitor setups. I believe it's customizable on top of all that, but didn't even look into it further since the basic functionality is already plenty.

[@LimitedWard]

@@TheJFadelli for sure. I use powertoys on all my W10 machines. Still, having that functionality supported natively is better imo. Sometimes I find it takes a while for powertoys to start up, and I'm waiting a while to be able to snap my windows. I believe also W11 makes improvements on remembering how you like to organize your multi monitor setups, which is useful if you plug your laptop in.

[@DEJ915]

Pretty close to an old 18" 5:4 panel but turned sideways, would be nice to run two of this sideways I would think that was a really nice update to the old setup I had.

[@robertt9342]

What about a double vertical 21:9 making a 7:6

[@KristianAlvestad]

Correct 18:16 is a convoluted way of saying 4,5:4

[@skywalkies77]

Im a digital artist who mostly works in A4 portrait dimensions so this is absolutely perfect to create on. Gonna sit next to my ultrawide.

[@LeonardoCamargo9]

As a software engineer. I absolutely love the idea of this monitor. Get to see a lot of code + have enough space for all sidebars and so on!

[@saunders017]

I could see so many lines of code at a time with this. I NEED IT

[@enzog1078]

genuine question. If you got a 16:9 monitor with the same amount of vertical pixels and more horizontal pixels, how is this superior?

[@mehuljain5916]

@@enzog1078 when you have a narrow monitor, the longer lines get cut off so instead of scrolling down more, you scroll sideways more. A choice which you can avoid in this monitor

[@saunders017]

@@enzog1078 I think what what you’d be referring to is like 5k resolution. So yeah I’d rather have that in general, but I really appreciate the form factor of this one for a secondary monitor in a smaller space just for reading log files or code. I would hope this is cheaper than 16:9 with > 2160p.

[@stormeporm]

I love tall monitors. I always have a second display in a vertical alignment. reading documents and logs is the best this way. I never got the wide screen stuff for reading and typing.

[@brentgreeff1115]

Oh yes - logs - on a portrait display - so much better.

[@whenhen]

I agree. I find my vertical monitor so much nicer to write, take notes on, and code with than an ultrawide. I've always wished however that the vertical monitor was wider so as to display more info horizontally. I would love to buy this, but sadly it's most likely going to be extremely expensive

[@danperry9293]

it might not be exactly 4:3 but it's close, so retro gaming would look pretty slick on it I feel. Also, imaging if they did a triple monitor setup with another pair of DualUp monitors!

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

I feel like two of these side-by-side would be perfect for web development. Code on one, preview on the other.

[@MkwRa]

wouldn't that just make it a really big 16:9 panel?

[@RelakS__]

With Display Fusion I divided my 4K monitor to 5pcs of 16:18 parts: 1x 1920x2160, and 4x 960x1080. The big is in the middle, and any small things are on it's sides.

[@bryanv.2365]

Johnathan testing for Mac users makes so much sense! Jono, can you have him (or anyone that daily drive's a Mac) give a Mac perspective when you do stuff like this? Was super helpful to about the DPI limitations on a Mac.

[@Miss-Foe]

Seriously think he should pop into videos like this more often. As a Mac user I really appreciate it.

[@jimbo-dev]

As a Linux user I wish Anthony did the same

[@MycaeWitchofHyphae]

@@jimbo-dev absolutely! My desktop is Windows, I use a MacBook as my laptop, and run Linux on my server, so seeing perspectives on all three OS is really great. I’d love to see quick Jono and Anthony asides more

[@evehg117]

I feel like Goldilock trying to find the perfect setup ever since I signed my remote work contract. I went from the 49" G9 down to 34" G5, then back up again to the Dell UltraSharp 40, and now I've once again switched it out to this. I've literally went from super wide to no width at all. It takes a little bit of getting used to but I work with the code editor and Excel spreadsheets a lot. When I split apps on any of the ultrawides, I lose application width and with obviously no extra application height either, so I think the DualUp suits my needs better. Ideally I would like to use this as a secondary monitor but I use the first gen M1 Macbook as one of my devices and have had terrible experience with DisplayLink so it's currently my primary monitor with my laptop monitors on the side.

[@RobCabreraCh]

I love it so much. I can think of a number of usecases for it. If it had picture by picture, this could be a decent streamer display where you had a console playing below, and twitch and obs running above it. It could be used as a store front display, where you have this facing a customer. You could display their order when ringing them up, and then go into demo mode showing pictures and video of your products. For general pc use, you could put on a live tv event, or a yt video, or even just like a yt mood music playlist on the top half, and use it as a regular 16x9 for general pc stuff on the bottom half. And with these being so ridiculously tall, you could get 5 of them and have an insane dome like sim setup. Imagine it at night, playing a space flying sim, basically being able to step into a window of a spaceship and seeing everything around you. These are cool!

[@tritoneko]

don't know if you already know as it's a 7m old comment, but it does have native picture by picture :) were you can connect two different systems to the same monitor :)

[@arcanescroll]

4x3 retro gaming on this would be so nice! Would almost make me give up my CRT... almost

[@illustriouschin]

The market has been severely lacking in more square monitors for productivity. Ultra-wides sell but they are also cheaper to make because they have half the surface area.

[@zebedeesummers4413]

I really want an ultra-tall monitor, it doesn't even need to have a high refresh rate just want one that doesn't curve.

[@ToxNano]

How do they have "half the surface area"? This monitor is basically 2x 27" on top of each other, whereas a 32:9 would be 2x 27" side by side.

[@YuProducciones]

yep, can't stand the insane amount of ultrawide options on the market

[@bricaaron3978]

@@ToxNano *"How do they have "half the surface area"? This monitor is basically 2x 27" on top of each other, whereas a 32:9 would be 2x 27" side by side."* Your comment makes no sense -- you're conflating surface area with aspect ratio. _For any given display size_ (measured diagonally), a 1:1 aspect ratio (a square) has the most surface area. I.e. it is the largest display. The more rectangular a display gets -- the more the diagonal angle goes from 45° to 0° -- the smaller the display is.

[@r34nissangtr31]

@@bricaaron3978 its true that for a given size, say 24", a more square aspect ratio will have more surface area. What Nano Tox said makes full sense. Taking two displays and setting them side by side gives you the same area as stacking them.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Looks rather interesting. Could see it working in a mame cabinet. I could see it being useful for my dtp work too.

[@volactic8495]

In my experience that flickering happens when the main controller that connects to the video inputs is trying to sync its output to the panel with the driver chip inside the panel itself. It usually happens for a few seconds after turning on a monitor and can happen in older projectors after connecting a signal as well.

[@UnusualPete]

This reminds me of an old 19" monitor I had that was 5:4, if I'm not mistaken. That almost square was weird for games.

[@blubblub3786]

4:50 had the same thing happen on a monitor. It was the display controller that was broken and not the panel itself. Stopped after 10 minutes too. Ended up getting the control unit replaced and it fixed the issue.

[@g.blackburn6906]

This is so weird, and cool, I love it! We need more unusual stuff. I'm here for it

[@stevesohn5436]

I have been waiting for these to come out. I want 2 of them to flank my 43" LG 4K monitor.

[@MrHack4never]

If the colours are good enough and the darks are dark enough, I can imagine this as a good top monitor on a virtual pinball table...

[@thehudlesshorseman5221]

Honestly, it looks like it'd be great for a second monitor in a set up. I turn my current second monitor in portrait mode and to have it slightly wider would be amazing. Also, from an artist perspective, it would be great for digital pieces and portraits, or magazine and book design as well.

[@Seitenwerk]

Wait until you see the duo version of this ;) There are 2 monitors on one floating stand and you can freely arrange both to either get 2* wide or 2*vertical or put them above each other and adjust for viewing angle etc

[@thehudlesshorseman5221]

@@Seitenwerk Get out.

[@ardaucok]

Wow it was a suprise for me , nice monitor with cool explanations. cheers

[@saturnGEEK]

I need one of these for an on-location live streaming setup. Having access to levels and other objects on the bottom half with the main preview and scenes above on the top half would be greatly beneficial, as my current workflow relies on a dual stacked monitor set up. Taking one monitor to a job would be far more desired.

[@hananas2]

To be honest I think a 3840x2880 4:3 version could be pretty practical for productivity stuff

[@sn0fx]

rotating puts this at 4:3.55... you really think an additional model in the range is necessary?

[@ninetenduh]

I want 16:10 to be a thing again. I would murder for a good 16:10 high refresh rate that is also affordable.

[@jondonnelly4831]

Same I thought that res was perfection and I held on to my old 16:10 monitor for years after the display tech was dated.

[@ninetenduh]

@@jondonnelly4831 I still have 2 of them, and I was honestly debating with myself to replace my 16:9 main monitor with a 16:10, but I really want a higher refresh one, sadly, highest is 75 hz and sizes are also a small issue. The biggest it gets with 75hz is 25". Had the hope when Laptop manufacturers started to use 16:10 that it gets some attention, but I guess I was wrong.

[@jondonnelly4831]

@@ninetenduh 16:10 just makes sense when most toolbars are on the top and documents are portrait. Windows 11 taskbar is thicker than ever and can't be moved to the side anymore, not that it really worked well. Sucks man.

[@katieforget5892]

I could see using this as an extra monitor for reference material or as a reader. Very often with my monitors on either side I find I'm only using half the monitor because the pages display most of the information in the middle, so I pull the window closer to the main monitor. With something like this, I can have full web or Adobe pages displayed while going through a presentation or project. It's interesting how many use cases people see for it

[@DrivenKeys]

This is perfect for a 3D animator who depends on the graph editor or dope sheet, which would fit perfectly in the lower 2/3 while allowing native aspect ratio viewport. Also compositors with tons of affter effects layers.

[@KyleFalconer1]

I'd imagine this would be good for 3D modeling and design, and like y'all said, as a second or third monitor, this would be great.

[@dellyspice]

as a 3d artist, i totally agree with you.

[@arjungandhi1242]

One guy stuck this into an old Sega City arcade cabinet. Works great for shmups

[@halsterhof]

Thanks for the great review. Can you tell me please how low will the monitor go - how close to the table will the lower edge be when in portrait mode?

[@granatmof]

Honestly, what I'd be interested in is a monitor designed for 3 monitors with the outer two set with this aspect ratio, but getting the dpi matched up would be crazy. Either way I'm looking forward to bezeless microled that allows the used to set their own custom aspect rations on the fly.

[@tilensmrdel9570]

This would be a killer monitor for software engineers :D i'd love to see some IDEs and code on this thing!

[@hippopotamus86]

Not sure about that, I use dual 27" 16x9/16x10 displays, I have my IDE on one side of one display and the other side for testing what ever it is I'm doing, other monitor with stackoverflow / what ever else. This monitor wouldn't be ideal.

[@tilensmrdel9570]

@@hippopotamus86 so from experience you would say that this monitor would actualy be more of a nuisance, rather than an improvement to your workflow?

[@misatzu]

@@tilensmrdel9570 Some people seem to just not grasp the advantage of more vertical screen estate _on each single screen_ I guess. There's nothing that would stop me from putting two of these DualUps side by side (which should be any dev's dream) when replacing a setup that's dual monitor already anyway. There's simply no disadvantage over a normie 2x 16:9 setup ... apart from cost, which wouldn't be an issue for any *actual* developer :]

[@brentgreeff1115]

@@hippopotamus86 - two 27 - one left - one right - ??? - I have no idea how you find that workable - your neck is pivoting left & right hundreds of times a day. - Most code is split into files of about 70 lines. - at least thats a manageable size. In portrait it's possible to take in the entire document without scrolling. An entire PDF can be viewed without scrolling. - a 42" display is massive - barely practical without moving your neck, but two 27s? - RSI is coming for you.

[@hippopotamus86]

@@tilensmrdel9570 I believe so yes. 16:10 would be the limit for me.

[@IanZamojc]

I'd like to see this tested for retro gaming where most of the content runs at 4:3.

[@maaamooon3070]

Not just gaming tho... Creating manga/comic will be easier

[@IanZamojc]

@@maaamooon3070 Aren't comic book pages a vertical aspect radio?

[@divypatel1002]

@@IanZamojc yeah mangas are more like 2:3 ratio

[@maaamooon3070]

@@IanZamojc reading 2 manga at once maybe?

[@raccoon001]

@@maaamooon3070 Where can I obtain this power?

[@brendanerazo]

Reminds me of the old 5:4 dell ultra sharp monitors we had in school forever ago. The aspect ratio is great for doing work.

[@Al13n1nV8D3R]

I remember playing Mechwarrior 2 on a Sony CRT in that same ratio as this monitor. And it was perfectly fine. We are just use to wide and ultrawide monitors that is all.

[@RJH755]

This would make an amazing secondary display to go with a 42" OLED

[@brentgreeff1115]

Interesting idea - I was thinking - for learning something - either learning video editing or how to program - having the youtube tutorial up on the OLED, and having this - next to it - they could be similar height wise

[@bobbiesterling574]

this is a bit tall for me but i would love if they released a modern 4:3 display. ngl widescreen is cool and all but i prefer some height.

[@Millenia3D]

I still have some 16:10 monitors around just because they hit a nice compromise between standard widescreen and 4:3

[@chronology556]

@@Millenia3D 16:10 is my main monitor. It’s literally perfect. It wasn’t cheap. It’s not a high refresh rate monitor, but I wonder when they will make gaming oriented ones. 16:9 and 4:3 gaming is great. 1920x1080, and 1600x1200. It’s a bit short, though for web browsing...

[@ironman9421]

Hey ShortCircuit, Good video, one quick question: When connecting 2 Laptops, would we be able copy content from one laptop to another ?

[@grn1]

I actually just read an article about this the other day and there's a feature (a couple actually) that wasn't mentioned here (maybe it wasn't ready yet since this was pre-production). It's possible to play content from 2 different sources like a game console and a PC at the same time. They also have software that allows you to move the mouse seamlessly between 2 PCs (and Macs I think) and a keyboard switch feature so you can use one keyboard and mouse to control 2 computers.

[@XionEternum]

I already stack two 27" 1440p monitors. The problem I have with this is that it's not vertically curved. That would be so nice.

[@CASyHD.]

There is that new Samsung I think monitor that's vertically curved

[@Neoxon619]

I feel like this could be great for top-down games, puzzle games, or writing code.

[@Zbykobyl]

I don't get it... You can just rotate 90 degrees regular monitor, and have for example 1440 by 2560 xP

[@dtibor5903]

It looks really ideal for coding

[@easysneezy]

Maybe even the old doom and Doom 2.

[@Jehty21]

@@Zbykobyl I tried my 24" 1920x1080 monitors rotated 90 degrees and it sucked. They are just too tall and too narrow. If I wanted to see the bottom of the screen I had to look downwards. So effectively in the end I just used a small square in the middle of the monitor and ignored the top and bottom.

[@mbvglider]

@@Zbykobyl 9:16 displays look pretty silly to me, and more importantly, most screens seem to have poor viewing angles when not in its native orientation. This is nearly a square monitor, too, which means if you're a programmer, you can actually see deeply nested code without having to horizontally scroll all day (1440 pixels isn't that many horizontally). If you're a web developer, you can have a regular sized browser window and still have code, console, and a terminal underneath it while still keeping in line (good ergonomically) and having to move your neck from side to side. I think the only thing is that 2560x2880 isn't quite enough pixels for me at this size. I would have much preferred something like 3820x4320 (two 4K stacked on top of each other), which would allow you to have full 100% playback of 4K while having other stuff underneath. If that's a little ridiculous, somewhere in the middle would have been nice.

[@ItsAkile]

Love it, I actually wondered why isnt this thing. I do so much stuff that would be dope on this ratio, full-screen portraits with PureRef for instance

[@yona9798]

I would LOVE to use this screen for music production. Using Ableton with a 1080p screen and multiple very large plugins I constantly run out of screen space. You can navigate it horizontally without a hitch, bit vertical navigation in Ableton really sucks. Add a plugin to the mix that, in stand alone mode would take up the entire screen, and you find yourself having to compromise track order and your entire damn workflow just to accommodate for the damn thing. This screen really would be absolutely perfect for me!

[@DrSkiba]

Awesome display for a secondary monitor for a coder and a streamer. Really tempting, LG!

[@mikk150]

I am actually thinking of primary monitor for coder, you really want 16:9 on secondary(tho, if you are web developer, this monitor makes sense for secondary as well, so you can have your inspector nice and biiiiiiiig, and still have respectable viewing area for output)

[@ducky1681]

Now that you mention it...

[@Iceman259]

@@mikk150 what if we move our primary programs to our secondary monitor, and our secondary programs to our primary monitor?

[@Iceman259]

Covering the P3 gamut makes it really appealing for photo editing too. Might just have to try one of these when they release.

[@spencjon4822]

I use a vertical screen as a secondary to an ultra wide while working - this would perfectly fit and I’d prefer that aspect ratio to the vertical

[@vasiovasio]

Great review! Thank you!

[@halvardlund4782]

This video was so fun. It was like having a visit of a couple of cousins talking computer! Gold!

[@poipoi300]

The pixel flickering you've experienced was likely a result of the cable. I've had a cable in the past that did that because the housing interfered and prevented it from being inserted all the way. After removing the housing, the issue was gone.

[@FlintTD]

I would love to see 5:4 monitors make a comeback, or 3:2.

[@rjh00]

Game creation and Civilization are exactly two use cases I thought of seeing this crazy monitor. This is weird but at the right price I can actually see it selling decently well to make it worth it. They should definitely consider getting rid of that bottom bezel though.

[@deejayblacklight]

You know you can put two input sources and have them displayed at the same time. one then takes the upper half and the other the lower half. I got three of those side by side and its just awesome

[@mynameisAirport]

It’s definitely interesting. I’d love a new large 4x3 lcd for classic games. Unico USA (the same people that made the MVSX bartop NeoGeo arcade) are trying to make a 26” 4x3 for arcade cabinets but they seem to be the only ones

[@mattwhiteman9285]

Absolutely. I'm looking to replace a broken monitor in a Sega Astro City cab and this might be perfect with a custom bezel.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

You spelled 4:3 CRT wrong. Retro games would suffer from sample and hold on LCD TV's.

[@Crlarl]

@@PSYCHOV3N0M While CRTs are better for many things, size and weight aren't among them. This person was mentioning a 26" screen. To get that size, you need to get a TV or large PVM. Connecting a CRT TV to a computer is difficult to do correctly or is more expensive than the screen itself. CRT's are amazing but are not always the best option.

[@iwontliveinfear]

Isn't a 16:18 aspect ratio the same as 8:9?

[@Z3t487]

Yes, quick maths, the proportion is exactly the same...

[@JakStat]

yes but in that format it is easier to realate to a 16:9 we all know. Same as why we say 16:10 instead of 8:5

[@evilcab]

he also said 8:9 in the video

[@Crlarl]

@@JakStat I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's stupid. We didn't call 4:3, "16:12," or, "12:9," likewise we shouldn't put other ratios in terms of its relation to 16:9. See, 18:9, 20.5:9, 21:9, 32:10.

[@jbloodwo]

I wish I could find some where to look at this in person. I would love to see how well it handles running in stacked 16*9. Debating between this and the dual 27 ergo for my home office refresh.

[@8020Alive]

I own it. It’s perfect for stacked 16:9. It’s resolution is 2,560 x 2,880 - that is exactly two qhd monitors stacked. 7372800 pixels to work with. Just below 4k amounts. QHD is 2560x1440. 3686400 pixels. Multiplying x2 stacked = 7372800. Same. It’s brilliant. 🎉

[@Mrperfectwoo]

I would love this for sysadmin work, one of these then a portrait 1440p 16:9 would be perfect

[@Crushonius]

uhm has this just become the best retro gaming monitor ever or what in vertical it is great for bullethell shooters and in horizontal it is almost perfect for 4:3

[@DeolomTM]

Imagine this in a 3 way surround setup

[@enzog1078]

Imagine an ultrawide monitor

[@amadouderza5824]

@@enzog1078 Ultrawides are pretty limited vertically, which I don't like much, especially for stuff like simracing or flight sim. For these I much prefer triple screens (I have a triple 32 setup). This model as a surround could be great, though it's a lot of pixels (triple 1440 is already more than 4k by 3 millions pixels iirc)

[@JulianSildenLanglo]

@@amadouderza5824 totally agree. A lot of ultrawides basically turn into Clint Eastwood simulators

[@DeolomTM]

@@enzog1078 lol

[@FastSloth87]

@@JulianSildenLanglo ¬¬

[@freefoxxof8423]

I´ve been tracking this monitor for quite a while and I love ths squear resolution, so much real state, indeed not for gaming but amazing for 3D modeling, I would love to use it for drawing but all digital drawing tablets, not monitor tablets, have an already fixed ratio.

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[@LimbaZero]

That resolution reminds me about VR displays for one eye. In my setup I have one 16:9 display vertical for visual studio, discord, IRC, etc. I have to say I also use that monitor to watch wrong filmed stuff.

[@roboticdem0n]

The packaging looks super eco-friendly. 🤣does it just look good or is it actually eco-friendly?🤔

[@freespam9236]

from looks seems like recycled paper, but for sure paper Also Linus has mentioned that they are trying to move towards as much recyclable packaging and/or already recycled plastics as possible

[@ericbaker8807]

I mean, he's probably not a part of that team or that decision making. So I wouldn't expect him to be super "in the know" about their product stuff

[@roboticdem0n]

I was just joking

[@TayoTheT1000]

I'd love to see them in a triple monitor setup

[@youngkibear]

I’ve been looking for square-ish aspect ratio monitors for my multi-monitor setup. I work a lot in Excel, and I feel like this monitor is exactly what I’m looking for!

[@Rose-oh6uk]

why not get a 24inch 4k* rather than a square HD

[@KhanalSush]

I actually really like this. I feel like editing music will be so nice on this monitor

[@xaj]

Really sad I didn’t get to see this with a 4:3 game console like a SNES Mini or NES Mini. I think this is the best classic gamers are going to get, short of a CRT

[@chronology556]

16:10 works great.

[@0080ff]

this is actually so perfect as a second monitor. Just waiting to see the price..

[@silasph]

Yeah looking for that info as well. Can’t wait!

[@apocalypticbean]

Judging by the stand, my guess would be >1000$

[@dontfearthereaper2887]

For those interested in doing photo editing work on this I can confirm that is great. For starters if you have a colorimeter like SpyderX or i1display, you CAN use the LG Calibration studio software with it. Not quite the same as having a 14-bit look table built in like some monitors from Viewsonic or BenQ, but if you understand how to calibrate correctly you can get outstanding result from this panel. In my case I was able to get 99% sRGB, 90% AdobeRGB, and 93% DCI-P3. Not quite LG claims, but very close. Both portrait and landscape images can be displayed quite large in photoshop. Unlike in a 27" monitor where landscape photos display nice an large but portrait photos seem too small. This "square" monitor gives you plenty of space for both photo orientations. My only complain so far is that thicker bezel at the bottom, they should have made it the same all around so when you rotate it the thicker bezel isn't on the right side. it is ugly but sometimes it creates a better layout for work.

[@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis]

I ran 2 side monitors with that rez for years when I was in school and a server mod for a couple of clans. I miss it, took up too much space. I might buy one of these.

[@Asoukes]

For ages I've been wanting a 4:3 or 5:4 monitor, would be nice for emulated older games, and web browsing in general. But the resolution of that monitor seems excessive to me lol.

[@Robertthebob]

My main monitor is 3840x1600 and I often split it into 2/3 and 1/3 using 2nd party software.

[@kilsterart]

For Reals Tho, this is actually an excellent 2nd monitor. I'll take 1! 🙋

[@thatzaliasguy]

That 18:16 aspect sideways would be awesome for integer-scaled retro gaming and arcade setups!

[@InservioLetum]

omgwth I WANT THIS SOOO MUCH. With a reticulated arm so I can mount it to the wall above my bed and read slashdot while lying flat. I'm perfectly happy with the prism glasses solution I use now, don't get me wrong, but it does make the screen pretty tiny looking through them, and I have to hold my feet flat against the mattress to not obscure the taskbar. I would prefer the display be above my face like a canopy.