In no way should someone be able to one cycle mobs a day into the release of a new dungeon on nightmare. Drop rates are way too high, mobs get way too weak when you get gear, and honestly having a healer trivializes AV in raids. This makes the dungeon "Easy" aside form core mechanics and structure, don't misconstrue that point. Some of you guys may have fun with this 8-10 drops per dungeon and what at least feels like high rng loot tables, but I'm not now because dungeons like these take a very long time to come out and when everybody is maxed within a week with plenty of loot to spare and all of the sudden the game is back to straight boredom; when in yokai peak it at least felt rewarding to grind because getting those good drops took a while, you'll see what I mean.
@japamoa15 күн бұрын
Exp Needs nerf too if it’s that easy to two times the amount of YP nm exp to AV nm exp
@eeraboti15 күн бұрын
10 drops per dungeon!?!??
@salty356715 күн бұрын
@@eeraboti If you have the +1 drop gamepass and the +1 drop subscription for 12000 silver and do the bonus boss you get 10 items (if you do it on hardcore)
@Waterbottleplays864214 күн бұрын
Plus the high amount of bugs like today I was playing on insane (cuz I’m lv 212) and me and this dude we’re duo we get to the last boss and it bugs out and the boss does come over to the platform this dungeon is very bug prone and felt very untested im heavily disappointed.
@RAINDIED15 күн бұрын
guys please complain after I get everything
@mrgoodatnothing909013 күн бұрын
ikr 😂
@shoobzy343119 сағат бұрын
Ong bro i hate people like this. They no life the game for a few days after release then cry like a huge bitch that it's easy. If they want it to be hard then use doodoo gear smh.
@venturerbrandon16 күн бұрын
I already have an ultimate and a blue armor green helm voidborn on day 3 of playing the update lol. I can run 20b hp and one shot the mobs with sacrifical orbs solo, so I can see where you're coming from. However coming into this dungeon without any new gear from this dungeon was a NIGHTMARE to deal with, easily hardest dungeon in the game, if you're saying it's too easy now, try beating this on nightmare hardcore. Trust me there's no way you're not dying at least once this dungeon.
@grougu167516 күн бұрын
Fr coming into this dungeon from yokai peak was so hard but after you get the new gear the difficulty drops immensely
@beastofgevidan360216 күн бұрын
How are ya’ll even lvl 215
@gytissuodaitis233415 күн бұрын
@@beastofgevidan3602 Alot of 215 levels is og players when they grinded every release of dungeons
@gytissuodaitis233415 күн бұрын
@@beastofgevidan3602on yokai peak i reached 223 level
@AzureHorizon_Official15 күн бұрын
how.
@Zyraxius16 күн бұрын
SEE? THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THIS DUNG IS EZ CUZ THE DROP RATES ARE FUCKED UP!
@Zyraxius16 күн бұрын
Also, first ;)
@YanLuvz16 күн бұрын
Real
@Zyraxius16 күн бұрын
@@YanLuvzBro let me be honest, I also had the same opinion and agreed on everything you said and I also felt what you meant, 5% chance for a leg spell is NOTHING compared to the rarity of dropping EIF/EIR, also AV Ults are 1/1000 and I also feel that these ults are way easier and common to be dropped than a NL Ult.
@Zyraxius16 күн бұрын
Tbh they made it like a FL dungeon, you finish it in a day/week.
@MoreGDD16 күн бұрын
other than leg spells, Jotry said all of the drop rates are the same, but the only reason it’s easier to drop is because of the amount of items you get. A lot of us are getting 8 items per game on non-hardcore, compared to YP, which was 2.
@nothanks441316 күн бұрын
I would say they made everything more common so people are less likely to quit cause players quit either cause they get bored or you stop dropping stuff worth anything. Additionally, some people see dropping the voidborne gear and the legendary/ ultimate as winning the lottery and will encourage them to keep playing and bringing voldex more money in.
@dracolima13115 күн бұрын
Perfect explanation
@TheGodlyGamer6354 күн бұрын
voidflames doesn't work if you are too close to the enemies
@manwas3312 күн бұрын
I was going to complain about how it’s easy but now I understand why he saying that
@zboy0198 күн бұрын
They should buff BOTH the drop rates,AND the dungeon itself including insane
@Adrian144p16 күн бұрын
Honestly, i like the drop rates being higher it makes it more enjoyable to grind. But there is also a point where its just boring since the items are so easy to get. The only item i cant drop is the ultimate I also think the difficulty is fine on insane but nightmare is just way too easy
@RuvinPlaysOfficial12 күн бұрын
yea but bc its easy to get rare stuff, people are gonna be done with the dungeon WAYY faster which wont be good for dq since even voldex cant update the game fast.
@karlosgaianaica61615 күн бұрын
i understand the points you make in this video and i agree, but if you dont like the dark void theme thats just you. I love how they put plataforms and stairs to drop down allowing us to jump with the leg spells and even if the spam of mobs is too much it feels nice (as a warrior at least) to be able to figure out how to survive as long as posible. This is just my opinion ofc
@RuvinPlaysOfficial12 күн бұрын
his point is kinda valid though, without the dungeon being vibrant you'll probably get sick of it really fast which would be horrible since its gonna be months since the next dungeon, i mean you can see how black and purple is going to get VERY tiring in about a month or 2.
@DarkenedVo1d15 күн бұрын
I already have full purple voidborn and a leg, I suspected something was off about this dungeon… I hoped it wasn’t this
@Gekox0615 күн бұрын
I assumed that Insane tier 3 weapon god pot would be around 448M power and since YP craftable is 400M then theres not much of a difference and then i assumed that legendary would be like 700M and ultimate probably around 770M and then armors would be like 67M but i think the spells are the ones that are super OP and since they made YP craftable then they had to make Nightmare weapons stronger
@ThatRobloxNoob16 күн бұрын
Less rng nonsense is a MASSIVE W, I have 0 complaints
@GummySkull25216 күн бұрын
Idk, legs seem a little too common, I heard someone say it’s a 5% drop rate, which is a little too common to be considered a leg.
@Malus_16 күн бұрын
Rng is literally a core game mechanic. With that being a non factor now, everyone is able to get way better items. This dramatically lowers player retention as nobody needs more gear and therefore everyone will quit way earlier on…
@salty356716 күн бұрын
@@Malus_ You know what else lowers player retention? spending 10 hours farming yokai peaks without a single upgrade becuase the RNG is bad. besides its not like every lobby isnt filled with people begging for items and getting them anyway
@Malus_16 күн бұрын
@@salty3567 the people spending a lot of time farming unironically is still better player retention. They will come back later and try again hoping the stars align for them. I hate the system myself but I do know why it exists.
@eeraboti15 күн бұрын
People are getting legendaries and full voidborn in less than 20 runs of nm which is only about 3 hours of grinding, the dungeon should have lower drop rates so I actually feel rewarded when I drop a legendary instead of not caring unless it's godpot
@CorruptSpider67616 күн бұрын
I dropped way too many legendaries which normally I would be happy but it seems a bit concerning. 💀🙏 I understand that the dungeon is hard and increasing drop rate would make some sense but it seems a little too high.
@UniCorneliusfan2116 күн бұрын
I do agree with the droprate nerf but I think its fine, just that the dungeon should have been more balanced so that winning once doesn't give you such a massive advantage and make beating the dungeon trivial, they could have balanced it around the regular 5 cycle mobs to win, since this balancing doesn't really go in line, and also the mob spam and undodgability
@razviplayz469816 күн бұрын
well gotta agree..."Dungeon Quest by Voldex" lol
@brettwilko912216 күн бұрын
No vcaffy/jcaffy
@GummySkull25216 күн бұрын
The only reason it’s easy is because of the drop rates (I got a leg spell and I haven’t even soloed insane more than like 6 times). I suffered like hell trying to find a team/solo without av armor 😭 Also, I think the reason why drop rates are high now is because either they haven’t reached the point where they have enough info of the community’s pov on the new dungeon, or that because av stuff isn’t accessible by daily/raids/gregg yet, so they made the drop rates high in compensation. I really hope they nerf the spawn rates of legs/ults once av stuff becomes accessible by daily/raids/gregg. However, I think this is a w dungeon disregarding the loot drops.
@Jutltmn16 күн бұрын
If the leg spells are 5% then I must be cursed
@Simplyrrc16 күн бұрын
IMO, I’m just happy we have a new dungeon. It always fun to no life a week to get all the new gear and start trading! But i do agree, the drop rates are a bit wierd. It kinda makes the game easier and gives less to get. I bet the economy for dq gonna go crazy ;/ mayb even ruin trading cuz every1 gonna have the best stuff in hoards. The dungeon itself is a little much but I think it starts to grow on you the more you play it. Though I see what your saying with the dungeon being more spammy and not much new aspects to the game.
@AtomicApple-lk9gm16 күн бұрын
GUYS SHHHHH DONT LET THE DEVS KNOW THE DROP RATES ARE COOKED. I WANT AN ULT TOO!!!!!!!
@shadowkill396616 күн бұрын
Aside from the drop rates, this dungeon is almost impossible to take zero damage even with the leg spells Edit: it's so overwhelming and laggy, there's too many attacks happening at once, they either tone this down or make a dungeon with less attack spam because it is hell
@epicwolfgames145816 күн бұрын
ive been trying to play this entire time and no matter what i do i cant beat the dungeon once and cant get any av gear
@grougu167516 күн бұрын
I also think it’s super easy to get stuff because people have 4 drops in insane. There is no need to do hardcore anymore.
@beastofgevidan360216 күн бұрын
How do people make 215 my problem is if i do wut u do nobody starts they take like a whole hour to start
@Fish_retriever11 күн бұрын
I already got a leg spell, and purp vb war helm, lumenflame hope, all within 20, and multiple green and gray vbs
@husnainmaik180816 күн бұрын
can voldex make a balanced dungeon or will they f it up a 3rd time? find out in like a year or smth idk
@Zephyr000915 күн бұрын
i dropped full purple vb mage and later got mage leg and mage leg spell in one game
@mightybg57816 күн бұрын
just a discloser since u guys did see me giving yan stuff on stream and off stream i made it very clear for him i wont give him a thing till he beats nightmare !!!
@AzureHorizon_Official16 күн бұрын
I still struggle to get the legendary sadly. Maybe it isnt easy for some, but I understand your point ^^. I know this may be insensitive, but do you have some tips or spares? There are most times that I keeo dying due to the bombarding attacks
@kyaroderooij715816 күн бұрын
Balancing team was too buzy getting ready to yoink every leaderboard spot and sell all the gear for plat to be able to actually balance av.
@C0smicFlames116 күн бұрын
so the dungeon is basically enchanted forest cuz enchanted was impossible with aquatic armor when it drop but when you got stuff from it. It was easy with its gear and its voidex second dungeon. They need little more knowledge with chances and whats makes it rare or not.
@2008Dev3 күн бұрын
I'ma guess next dungeon will be some kind of northern land dungeon but the final boss is zeus and the cosmetic will be kratos :trollge:
@crimsonking2216 күн бұрын
The drop rates are crazy I dropped an ultimate on my 1st bonus boss clear. I agree with every point in this video except for the visuals, I love cosmic stuff so thats why I like this, but thats just my opinion. I think they should up the damage with the legendary spells because they are legendary, and why do they drop on insane??? literally no dungeon has had a legendary drop on insane. im was so disappointed to see it get outclassed as soon as I moved into nightmare. I hate how RNG it is to dodge everything and live without a healer, the mobs are just not fair. The legendary spells actually made this dungeon kind of fair because of its movement but unfortunately they just arent that good on nightmare. Also something you didnt cover, when you move onto nightmare, the dungeon gets harder by literally just making it more unfair. the attacks get faster and they just SPAM more enemies, like how was that a good idea. anyway, thats just my take
@StrawBeryCakeYum16 күн бұрын
Crimson are you a mod in Kurinji’S server? I think I know you
@crimsonking2215 күн бұрын
@@StrawBeryCakeYum ive known him for 3 years.
@StrawBeryCakeYum15 күн бұрын
@@crimsonking22 the bromance is too beautiful🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🔥🔥🔥🔥
@yokai_yessir16 күн бұрын
yall do I just have a skill issue?? my set is oracle’s ascendance, epic akuma mage robes, common akuma mage cloak, one tier 180 and 200 ring.. and I haven’t beaten insane mode once. is my loot the problem?? I just started being able to beat tier 5 raids and I can’t drop a purple akuma helm 😭😭
@Valoreron15 күн бұрын
insane is a HUGE difficulty spike from yokai peaks so its likely a skill issue and your armor/weapon/spells
@naebully583615 күн бұрын
I agree with most except for your opinion on the leg spell it's a (new movement) and all movement spells do less damage that it atk spell counterpart
@bluepastelz904214 күн бұрын
Fr, dungeons need to take longer to like get maxed out. Im already fully maxed out full purp war set and ult NOT EVEN BY TRADING. There isn’t really a point of me playing it anymore cos im maxed xd
@RileyEdits-sx3wf16 күн бұрын
“When you got items it becomes easy” wasn’t that for every dungeon though?
@GLEGGG16 күн бұрын
no, in almost every other dungeon even with max gear you still most likely didnt 1 shot unless you were on the leaderboard. Now, anyone with a green set can 1 shot on nightmare solo and 3 cycle bosses.
@Rx_is_the_goat15 күн бұрын
@@GLEGGGu can not one shot with a green set what are u yapping about
@GLEGGG13 күн бұрын
@@Rx_is_the_goat i can (tbf i have an ult and im lvl 229) but i can one shot pretty consistently
@bested632916 күн бұрын
Ight bro drop a few ults and send me some since u tryna make it harder
@szymonmroczek361316 күн бұрын
Are the leg spells 5% from both ins and nm or only nm?
@DVR_Gaming00716 күн бұрын
both
@ckskrr_12 күн бұрын
oh voldex just keeps floppingggggg
@GraceGrace09-cc1mh16 күн бұрын
Man new dungeon drop is so easy also the new legendary spell is so easy to drop eir and eif is still rare than
@JT_KILLER16 күн бұрын
Drop rate is the problem 😭😭😭
@justcallmedxrk711216 күн бұрын
i got 2 gravity leaps on the same run 😭💀
@MrMuffin516 күн бұрын
Just like fabled legacy pots.... where a grey or green can be better than purple
@serverbf100mr16 күн бұрын
I cant beat it cuz lag ):
@GraceGrace09-cc1mh16 күн бұрын
I just drop 68.1 mage helm voidborn about an hour to day
@MudkipBot16 күн бұрын
This dungeon is actually really hard without loot. But i dont think a blue insane chestpiece should change my damage by 20Q. Its actually insane how much my friend shreds (I believe he had a worse set than you) on insane with a nm set its hilarious But this game has always had a problem with difficulty balancing Ef,nl,and yp were all manageable and fun (Yp xp rate made it ungodly bad tho) but at,gs, and this new one are all really damn hard. But at least at and gs had hard to dodge attacks this dungeon just spams shit everwhere and expects you to dodge im not a fan with this at all I knew they would make this harder considering how free yp was but you dont make a dungeon harder by spamming shit you make unique and hard to dodge attacks
@shelly883916 күн бұрын
This is the second dungeon voldex made or smth? And bro i can honestly say they are doing a very.. eh job. Vcaffy was just busy and could focus on the game. But voldex came in and really only things they did was make game easier to get into and make irl money able to get you more things in the game. Both there dungeons suck to say the least. Yp was just easy probably one of the easiest dungeons to solo ever after. Drops were normal nothing crazy. However This bullshit of a dungeon was NOT worth the year they wasted on it. They spent more time trying to prevent cheese strats from being found as last dungeon had a crap ton. That they disregarded the gameplay of the actual dungeon. The scaling sucks. Probably the only dungeon where the last dungeon gear is not guaranteed to let you clear it. It took me 8 hours to clear it once. And that was fun. It brought back taunting and healing and raids. But why is it that after i got 2 ITEM. A new GRAY sword and a spell. that i traded for shatter strike. I was able to solo a little bit later. And i say a little bit later as learning that attack pattern in any form to not die to everything thanks to the god forsaken pull ability. TOOK BE 2 HOURS ALONE. but after i beat it once solo its like the difficulty level dopped immensely. Like from the struggle 30 seconds left my next run was 2 mins. And its now an average of 3 mintues. Nothing chnaged from the 30 seconds to 3 minutes no new gear just running that garbage. But also if u look in trading chat. This is the most money ive seen get spent on any dungeon. Plat deals every 2 seconds as u cant clear it in any good capacity without either max out yp gear or av gear. I honestly don't think voldex plays the game. Infact i know they dont. As they would know what we find fun and grow off it. Like they are taking what we know and dekt with love or hate and just making it worse. Instead of any of the gameplay updates they promised they made a cash grab for all the players who didn't want to grind. They have zero creativity and honestly should sell the game to someone else who cares about it.
@wongheisunny16 күн бұрын
... I traded eir for new leg spell
@zac1239616 күн бұрын
bro i havent even beat that denguen yet because of my lag but if im not lag as fuck i maybe can beat it
@tormentatoreoscuro155816 күн бұрын
at the first day i got full god pot voidborn mage and i trade it for full set war and a ult😭 i have no point to continue playing this dubgeon im already max out😐
@tormentatoreoscuro155816 күн бұрын
but i will play it no metter what lol
@cloudpendragon234616 күн бұрын
Yp was easy from start to end id say it was perfectly balenced for players to start and end. But this dungeon is hard until u get anything from the dungeon. Once u have gear it becomes suoer easy. So its more of a gear being really strong.
@ckskrr_12 күн бұрын
No one can do it like Vinny
@hobi43416 күн бұрын
yoki was so easy to solo...
@Valk_Rawr15 күн бұрын
w healer btw but yeah this so true
@Leshaun-lingle16 күн бұрын
yoo yan remeber me?
@J_Jayden16 күн бұрын
Honestly if you feel the need to make a 12 minute video ranting about how you hate this dungeon, why even play it?
@GummySkull25216 күн бұрын
Facts 😭
@apraxion467016 күн бұрын
Yea I one shot all the mobs in solo & two shot the bosses ;-;
@Pink_Gaia16 күн бұрын
lol "the dungeon is easy" but fails the bonus boss
@imsomeonelol335916 күн бұрын
I mean the New leg spells sucks so
@donutcookie62216 күн бұрын
you have no right to call abyssal void easy when you couldn't complete nm in a level 210 set.