This Fight Might Happen In Real Life...Maybe | F-16C Viper Vs Su-57 | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS

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On this channel we like to do a lot of dogfighting most videos are some sort of dogfight between 2 different aircraft as we explore their different capabilities. From time to time I like to dabble in Virtual Reality, I think VR is a great new technology and I love to show that stuff off for the channel from time to time.
If you enjoy war thunder or Microsoft flight simulator 2020 or even dogfighting in Battlefield 2042, consider getting yourself into Digital Combat Simulator by Eagle Dynamics, the Combat side of Aviation with the BVR and Dogfights really provides a different and interesting perspective on aviation. You can fly all kinds of combat aircraft including the F-16, F-15, F-14, JF-17, Su-27, Mig-29, Mirage and the F-18 Hornet along with many other aircraft and helicopters like the Ka-50 and Mi-8.

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[@Matthew-52572]

It’s weird how insane the turning on things like the f22 and su 57 look when your fighting it but when your in the cockpit it doesn’t look that strange

[@zenknt]

absolutely comedic how you post this as soon as i got done watching the video of the su-35 in Alaska

[@TheDragonofRevelation]

​@@loicalexI guess that means I have launch authorization, huh? 😂

[@SE-tc3cr]

Never has there been a better demonstration of 'it's not the plane it's the pilot', there is no way in hell an F16 should be able to beat an SU57 on paper, amazing flying from GS.

[@m.g7809]

It would have been a totally different story with Fox-2s though.

[@gaiofattos2]

@@m.g7809 On paper. We have no clue about how Su-57 employ its R-77M with R-37m.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@gaiofattos2 Neither the R-77m nor R-37M are IRH missiles

[@user-pt3st6mc5l]

Didn't GS score at least a handful of kills with the Viper and the Typhoon against the Felon? At least I seem to remember that he did.

[@FlamingF18s]

@@TheArcticFoxxoyes but to get to the dogfight u have to be neutral in the bvr fight enough to even get to the merge which is where the r37m and r77m would come in

[@frankzhao8352]

Amazing flying and anticipation. You lost visuals briefly while lining up the shot and had to pull the trigger based on where you think he’ll be. It was like a perfect no look pass in football. Beautifully done

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 135

[@grindcorejoe6661]

That was the most impressive Flying I have ever seen, even on this Channel!

[@benson4820]

This has to be the dogfight of the year

[@curtisbartlett8170]

Can't help but be very impressed with your talent for calculating your opponents strength and weaknesses. This vid was a very good example. Thanks for an enjoyable dogfight.

[@mothafraker]

They said the gun fight was dead during Vietnam too. The 'experts' never know as much as they think they do.

[@woistwalter7037]

I normally don´t associate russian tech with fine lines and aesthetic, but their planes are just gorgeous. Mig-29, Su-27 and now Su-57 are so beautiful.

[@sergioibarra3461]

and Mig-31 is kind of cool too

[@itsdokko2990]

@@sergioibarra3461 in a very _crude, unrefined_ way, but i agree, soviet/russian design is beautiful

[@CorruptedElement]

Dogfight idea: You have to crash into your enemy to win. I think it would be interesting. (The enemy can still use guns)

[@Dusther210]

This sounds REALLY fun!

[@vegan-cannibal714]

How many times have they said the dog fight era was over at least two times i can think of.

[@sergioibarra3461]

Felon one turns F-16 with Fox2

[@DDayJayke]

Well, at least the first round showed us that GS is capable of ejecting BEFORE it is too late from time to time. Seriously, sometimes he waits until it is guaranteed that he will stain the grass with his blood. But that first round went about how I suspected it would go, especially when I saw that he didn't jink.

[@Rty-q1g]

i can tell you are a very experienced pilot when you win a dog fight with a f16 against a su57, and that su57 pilot was good as well

[@Xiodot]

"You can tell a lot about an aircraft just by looking at it" but we don't talk about the Foxbat..

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

what?

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

what?

[@legomyeggo1187]

As planes become stealthier wouldn't that make dog fighting more common?

[@Sj_20h9]

yea i feel like that would because if their both stealthy it would force the merge

[@btw_ole7932]

No cause the radar power increases too. Also we don’t know how missle technology advances and which effects it might have

[@Sj_20h9]

@@btw_ole7932 tru

[@MacedonianChristian]

@@btw_ole7932 radar are most of the time of if the inteceptors knows what they are engaging, so the RWR doesnt snitch their position.

[@adamseffect8604]

You've essentially found a way to neutralize the difference in maneuvers, well done!

[@matthewschrand6327]

always nice to see an upload my man

[@gregfromguam]

Interesting fight, the second one. You ended up down on the deck, then took advantage of his predisposition to angle fighting. Bear with me, I'm WWII boomer dude. You got the break when he lost energy as you were zooming, then after a series of boom 'n zooms, you got him. Very cool.

[@marvel9r421]

That is actually how Falcons kill their prey in the wild. Dive bomb attacks. Im amazed GS never pulled this maneuver before in the F-16 with its high rate of climb.

[@MADMAX353]

OUTSTANDING WORK!!! Well done. Carry on.

[@zeroomicron4821]

One of the better dogfights I have seen from GS in a while. Great to watch, really enjoyed.

[@Hangry_Hungarian]

I always enjoy your dogfight videos but this one was really fun to watch. Seeing you experiment and finding the way to beat the Su-57 in the F-16 was really cool, and the seeing the tactic work well! I know you have done this in the past but I don't know, this one was just really fun to watch.

[@bitmanagent67]

Brilliant strategy

[@TheRedneckPreppy]

The F-4 Phantom II will always be the most beautiful fighter ever built but man, the Su-57 with that digital paint scheme is a very close second.

[@1984avalentine]

That's not how you spell spitfire

[@planestrainsandautomobiles8065]

Can you do more in-depth dogfight analyses after a splash 1? Let us know what mistakes or advantages were awarded during the fight?

[@jt_kirk]

" it's not the plane, it's the pilot"

[@xiinite9]

I'd love to see a scenario where the viper goes after a bomber frogfoot or fullback, only to be ambushed by a Felon.

[@streetrodder06]

The M61 doesn't get near enough credit for being a badass gun. It's like a baby A10 GAU 8, even makes a nice little brrrrrt 😁🤣

[@mattt525]

I was clenching my cheeks on last last divebomb! Beautiful flying GS

[@KillerKev1961]

Excellent dogfight. At one point, you were down to 80kts IAS.

[@Yousochessy]

very interesting using all of his weaknesses in that fight speed trap or whatever you said :D

[@fandance7815]

the felon had to be super frustrated during the second fight, that was sick

[@farkinarkin5099]

Once we saw him struggling to bring his nose up... YES!

[@kalelalves]

14:10. Damn that was so intense.

[@botondkalocsai5322]

So the moral of the story is when somebody ruins your two-circle dogfight configuration with supermaneuverability or trust vectoring, you can immediately counter them with energy tactics and going up.

[@Hawkathon]

Who else is here hoping for the traditional “*splat* - Killed in Action”?😊

[@davidguerrero3059]

That was some serious juking to win that one good flight ⭐

[@alld6005]

Excellent work!

[@tombooker13]

Well done! You had to be very creactive to get this kill!

[@donaldkeller881]

That was awesome! GS is that guy!

[@Forza_horizon6]

Love your videos

[@jihadrouani5525]

I was just watching a video on the TU-160 White Swan and was basically captivated by how gorgeous it looks, hopefully we see it here on GS in a mission video or something (also if you do decide to make a video on it don't call it by its NATO designation, they picked the worst name for the most beautiful bomber out there)

[@sandrosichiiii]

would be cool to see more of these outmatched dogfights/bvr fights, very interesting

[@abbaerfani9007]

Hello GS I would like to let you know you are the best every time I go against the SU57 even with SU35 I can not go more than one minute and I be shut down you are very smart to find out how to kill this beast. Thank you so much for making all this great videos ❤❤❤

[@randyjohnson5426]

You have to spike that ball Faulker!!

[@emperor_sunshine]

Are there any RF-4C desert storm missions? It would be interesting to see. My dad would love it, especially if you used the doctrine he wrote himself in the early eighties.

[@xerxxxlugner]

The best video that GS has ever uploaded!

[@stormhawk31]

Good job!

[@Netbug]

"Come into my funnel" -GS, 2024

[@Dagohfer]

What a beauty the Su-57 is.

[@JClark2600]

GS, That was amazing skill! congrats on downing a jet worth ten time what the F16 is worth!

[@VigilanteAgumon]

Day 89 of asking for a modern Falklands scenario: Eurofighters and Lightning IIs vs. Falcons

[@Warthunderrager-uj3pk]

Question, where did the Su-57 get those new engine nozzles? Looks almost like an F-22.

[@R4FSAN]

They're the engines Su57 deserved to have since production. But due to delays with the new engine, it had to use the old Su35 engines for the time being

[@agnttgr]

It`s Al-51 (Izdeliye 30), new engines for Su-57

[@Warthunderrager-uj3pk]

@@agnttgr thanks, but I thought the AL-51 was supposed to have sawtooth engine nozzles like the F-35, I saw that in a few photos.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@agnttgr This is not at ALL what an AL-51F-1 looks like.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@R4FSAN No, they aren't. The idea of a 2D flat nozzle was entirely abandoned in the '90s and only recently revisited as an idea recently, with the possible testing of a 2D flat nozzle beginning around 2026-2028. It doesn't use the Su-35S' engine, the AL-41F-1 was designed specifically for the T-50 while the AL-41F-1S on the Su-35S and Su-30SM2 lack a full authority digital engine control and produce less thrust. The current engine that is in the Su-57 and Su-57M is the AL-51F-1, which started its original trials phase in 2017, was only put onto aircraft in 2023.

[@juliosachump]

Would be sick to see a 2v2 with you and a buddy wingman

[@MagnumGreenPanther]

Damn that was incredible

[@TheScottShepard]

Most of the time I can at least imagine having the skill to pull off some of the things you do, but not this time. Respect.

[@johnbailey614]

9:24 giggidy

[@nhtheintrovert5679]

1:49 tell that to the US in the 70's

[@RajeshRamsaroop]

Did you plan on doing the "energy trap"? Or did you just make that up "on the fly" (pun intended lol)? Either way I want to say that was impressive flying and impressive use of knowledge!

[@MasterBakerVideos]

Face of god in cloud at 8:26.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

what?

[@RoystonTumbles]

“Come in my funnel” 🤭

[@jimmynickelz]

Been waiting for this

[@HotRod-gv4zt]

Considering DCS pilots have more experience of flying the Sukoi's more than the Russians themselves? Yeah, take that all into account.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

DCS pilots have more experience than pretty much any pilot in the world, regardless of nation. Both Russia and America get about 150-200 practice hours per pilot every year.

[@HotRod-gv4zt]

@@TheArcticFoxxo That's not true. Our pilots get more training time than most other Nations. Including NATO. You can look it up. 2 years for both ground and aviation training. Then months of training in the hearts themselves before they can be qualified too go into combat training. Most pilots that are active for 10 years have about 2500-3000 hours in flight and vombat training time.

[@IRLFlightSim]

POV you took a page from the Japanese lol the whole time this is all I could think about was the zeros stacking on top of and stalling out the bearcats haha

[@redcamaro9401]

be nice to have a missile that shoots backwards.

[@Jaspermoises1835]

Don't think it's "might happen" but rather "when" it will happen.

[@megalamanooblol]

But only in BVR, neither side will ever come over close in for FOX-2s or guns.

[@agnttgr]

When it will happen F16 would be blown without any contact with Su-57 And probably they will be hit by S-70

[@orlandoclark8062]

Good fight but will always come down to the ability of the pilot.

[@Jerimiah10]

What a nail biter. Great vid.

[@97BuckeyeGuy]

So, is the SU-57 the best dogfighter in the world, currently?

[@eric76645]

Why can't you see the tracers from the F16 gun or am I just blind? 😊

[@myprivatewar]

in rd 2 i saw 4 separate instances where he could have smoked you but for some reason didnt 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@EzraStark]

well at least we know 26 f16s can't kill 26 su57s. (there are only 25 su57s omegalul)

[@R4FSAN]

Funnily enough, 1 F16 got teamkilled by a patriot SAM last month so they CAN have a 25v25 now 🤣

[@sanagievladimir247]

Simulate the intercept of Alaska turn dogfight scenario?

[@peterweller8583]

Would have liked a little proof of concept 1:1 might have been a fluke.

[@jcoronelmz]

The Su-57 is a too valuable last tech asset to risk it into the Ukranian air space, and the Ukranian f-16 are too old to dare to enter to the Russian dominated airspace. Anyway, incredible how much You made sweat even defeat that Russian figther

[@hadesdarklord]

No tracers for the F-16?

[@Acin75]

I honestly hope the heros of ulraine see this Video and get impressions from you on how to fight these beasts.

[@mikejunior80]

I think you may have given the Ukrainian F-16 fighter pilots the answer to their felon problem.

[@IsaacBrissette]

what missile do you use for the f22 dog fights?

[@rbo350]

Could you shoot the Su57 with those big ass missles SM6

[@Dluger123]

So the felon is flying but no radar confirmation?? Maybe it’s a lot more stealth than it gets credit for…

[@DeathtrapQ60]

Those big ass exposed jets say otherwise...

[@m.g7809]

@@DeathtrapQ60 No that's just your armchair assumption. Funny how Nato hasn't confirmed they've been spotted before some random dude with a camera did.

[@The17thEditionGoober]

While I don't doubt it's stealthier than previous russian jets, I do not think it could hold it's weight against american versions. Its exposed engines are giant radar deflectors plus it's lack of radar absorbent material (unless they figured out how to make coloured radar absorbing material, which I have severe suspicions on)

[@xiinite9]

​@@m.g7809 Nato cares about opsec and intel advantage way more than boasting about capabilities. That last part is part of Russia's intimidation doctrine.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

What?

[@sp00f64]

Stellar performance GS!

[@ViliRagnarok]

So you are saying there's a chance.

[@JeremyMcMillan]

WWII tactics to win.

[@chrisr.7311]

Is it possible to have the link of the Felon?

[@kobodera8261]

If what I have heard is correct this has already happened... Moonfish and his F-16 did not survive the encounter... RIP Moonfish!

[@busterdee8228]

So glad you didn't go round 3. It left a nicer taste in the mouth. Well done.

[@OboliskGaming]

I can't believe the thrust to weight on the Su-57 is worse than the 16. Amazing flying. Great counter.

[@sirghostington6305]

Day 81 of asking for A-10 vs F-4 Phantom

[@basicforge]

You managed to turn the Felon into a Chevy Chevette!

[@lordisback1947]

You're good in DCS but in real fight we know the su57 is superior but depends on ukranian pilots how much they're trained because gforce is one thing that matters and how much Ukrainian pilots are trained to handle Gs on f16 and also equipment control is different

[@erumzakir4778]

This is the closest ive seen to a real dogfight. Keep it up❤

[@hughmungus1235]

Can anyone explain one circle and two circle to me in simple terms please

[@karlmayfield8006]

First for f18

[@dillonpeterson66]

SU-57s are there but Russia won't let them anywhere near the front because they don't wanna lose them because they have like 5.

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

around 30 at the moment, and they've been used quite plentifully south of the eastern seaboard.

[@dillonpeterson66]

@@TheArcticFoxxo you got a source on that?

[@TheArcticFoxxo]

@@dillonpeterson66 On what?

[@dillonpeterson66]

@@TheArcticFoxxo you're claims of there being 30 or them being used in combat

[@dillonpeterson66]

@@TheArcticFoxxo them being used or there being 30

[@jettblack9696]

F-15c vs f-4e dogfight

[@sidtedtilley]

Perhaps you should mention this to the Ukrainian pilots of your findings. Assuming they want to dogfight!!??

[@Sk8boardP3te]

Nobody: One random Ukrainian pilot: ... Noted.

[@miguelangelback2047]

Bro, why are you so hesitant to shoot the su-57 when it passes in front of your sights? Greetings from Mexico.