This FORGOTTEN Nineteenth Century Technique is How I Became a Professional Artist | Drawing Tutorial

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Hello my friends, if you want to follow along, don't forget that you can download the model (completely free, no email required) on my website. Check the links and let me know how it goes for you ! Joy and inspiration to you all ✨✨😊😊✨✨

[@KengKoyArt]

Hello, Teacher Florent Farges. May I request that you do a video on Da Vinci's techniques and materials? Thanks, Sir.

[@jacqulineloncke8696]

Yes I am so thought to I started drawing because of my disability use my hands again I was sent to Centre to start using my hands and my whole body rattled you too what is the about self-taught is a lovely thing to know you can work alone buy an artist

[@jacqulineloncke8696]

Thank you for sharing that with me it is an amazing thing did you hear that you were self-taught I went to the centre call the dragon cafe and I had a teacher her name was Lee give me a pen some pencils use my hand but because of not able to use my hand I'm having Parkinson's disease I had to special here to help me so that I can draw with my hands that is a wonderful thing a lot of people will try to do that self-taught hard if you can help yourself drawing everything little bit at a time and you will be able to do much better

[@violinplayer3518]

My father was painter. He finish academy for art and was very good. He didnt let me use paint until i was 11. Drawing and shading only. Black and white mostly. He was right. Painting is like icing on the cake. You have to have cake first and drawing is foundation.

[@seussusamongoose2905]

Incredible dad fr 🥳

[@avelin3239]

@E dad is just snob one:)

[@angustheterrible3149]

@E God forbid a child have fun and be creative without being perfect. I feel sad for this person.

[@disasteriz3766]

I wonder why you changed lanes to pursue violin instead 🙄

[@Wilyowilly]

Damn your dad dogged you hard. Paint should be available to everyone.

[@eclectic505]

This is really weird but my technique is... taking my glasses of. I have terrible long distance eyesight. It really helps me see the overall shape of things better, because the details often confuse me. When I get the shape right, then I go crazy with details. :D

[@el_chavez]

I squint to get the general shapes and to check values.

[@FlorentFargesarts]

It's not weird actually, it's a great technique, I cover squinting and tilting the head in a video on my channel 👍😉

[@jomc20]

Squinting is similar - you only see the general shapes and not all the distracting detail.

[@danielshowell9512]

Another technique is to gently pull corner of your eyes with a fingers. This way eyes won't get too tired. I doesn't work for me, but I know people who do it.

[@aleafox1675]

I know excatly what you mean. So I guess there is a silver lining for those who have difficulity in seeing distance.

[@ArtBlueCrane]

I didn’t go to art school, either. However I did have an apartment when all my friends were in art school & still lived with their parents. They came and did art at my kitchen table, taught me what they learned that day, while they got stoned without parental interference. 😅 So much marijuana and I got a free education! Ha! That was 27 years ago, and I’m still learning. Thanks for the great video! 🖤

[@voidremoved]

I love cannabis too

[@MarkSheeres]

The fact that you’re self-taught gives me a lot of hope for myself!

[@AndSendMe]

Yes, I've been wondering about this for years. I haven't been following lately so maybe it came up before and I missed it, but it's good to know it.

[@CodenameJameslee]

Don't waste your time watching tutorials on KZbin often it only makes the process of learning way harder than it should be, rather save money, buy somes good art books or pay for some lessons. Please trust me it will save you a lot of time 🙏🙏🙏

[@MarkSheeres]

@@CodenameJameslee thanks for the advice. A retired art professor from one of the local universities gave me a list of books, which I have been working through. At the same time, while KZbin is no substitute for a structured program, I have picked up some interesting tips and tricks from videos.

[@CodenameJameslee]

@@MarkSheeres 🙏🙏🙏

[@CodenameJameslee]

@@MarkSheeres that great man, I really hope for the best

[@marcblur9055]

For left handed artists, remember to reverse your source work and drawing surface. The picture you're copying from should go on the right side of the board. That keeps your hand and wrist from blocking the view of your subject.

[@starbird14]

so on the side of the artists drawing hand?

[@CosmicGardener]

As someone who did do some art school I must say how he describes needing to know the discipline to do art is 100% spot on. To do art that has the desired affect you have to know and understand well the rule to be able to break them in a way that achieves the desired affect. If you know proportion and framing you can distort them to create dramatic effects and etc etc. There's so many parts to know and it take iterations or phases of learning. Artists should be adding to their skills or knowledge often. If you're jsut starting or stuck in a rut, I believe in you and you will get where you want to be. Try new things, have fun with them, and do your best to push through the awkward phases and really learn the skills of the technique or properties of the mediums you try!

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Thanks sharing your insights, much appreciated 😊✨

[@voidremoved]

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[@ipsitasaha2022]

Wonderful tip. I think in order to draw anything observation is the key.

[@ab-hx8qe]

This is how my father taught me to draw. I’m happy to learn the technique has a name, thank you.

[@keycuz]

Its a shame kids stopped learning draftsmanship. This is like abc's for an artist. People appreciate artistic skill when they learn this.

[@apresmidi153]

Bargue is wonderful. I did about half the book, although not "correctly" as you describe in this video, and it taught me a ton. I'd love to go back and actually do one of these sight size like you did in this video.

[@Joeofthemasks]

... I can tell you're self taught, because this isn't a forgotten technique... It's literally taught in most art colleges. Hell I was taught this in a small college.

[@v0Xx60]

I was gonna say.

[@Meskarune]

Yeah this is taught in most art schools but doesn't show up online much.

[@Heidi2003]

His actual quote at 0:09 is: "ONCE forgotten, NOW commonly used"... He didn't make that mistake...

[@Joeofthemasks]

@@Heidi2003 if it's a 19th century technique, that's been taught in schools since the 19th century... When was it forgotten?

[@v0Xx60]

@@Heidi2003 Yes, but the title is "This FORGOTTEN Nineteenth Century Technique...". If it's "once forgotten, now commonly used", then he didn't use a "forgotten technique" to self-teach himself anything and the title is just clickbait.

[@paradiseb5950]

The beauty in art is that the artist will not make the proportions identical to the original but still make the drawing feel like the original and that is what gives art that feeling and look.

[@Norman_Peterson]

Wait FORGOTTEN? Bargue Plate??? We study it! , i'm italian i'm 48 years old and by us this technique is a common technique. part of base studies of art. Everybody knows it, many people use it especially in the beginning when you are studying anatomy and composition. Is it not used anymore? Is it a "strange" thing? Heck I am older than I think. It's a matter of course from us almost everybody studies and works that way. LOL you don't need the tape on the floor, just take 2 steps back :D You have no idea how much trouble this was causing in Atelier! Take 2 steps back, you are immersed in the work you know how it works..and BONK! bump another artist or easel! ahahah

[@chris-terrell-liveactive]

I didn't have any formal training and art lessons at school were not very useful for really developing skills. The Great Leap Forward for me came when a really good art teacher at high school got me to work on one drawing, in detail and with close observation, for the entire term (12 weeks, about 24 hrs of work).. I never finished it but it gave me a very useful foundation experience for my art. This is very useful to watch, thank you.

[@zagoista1]

Excellent, excellent advice as always. Thanks!!!!!

[@hewehawi]

Forgotten my arse! This gruelling technique is still taught everywhere from Venice to Eaglehawk.

[@atlantic_love]

Thank you! This guy has the longest art videos without actually saying anything.

[@roebucksruin]

Seriously, what a self-important, click bait title. Most collegiate art programs touch on the Bargue method per the French approach.

[@ArchOfficial]

I've done something like this, but digitally in Clip Studio on my laptop, using a cabinet as a makeshift standing desk and moving back to look at the canvas. Very effective painting study method.

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Very cool! 👍

[@semikolondev]

That’s was the basic of drawing for our courses in Belgium. And received few days too when I was in Firenze.

[@10XSeiga]

I respect people who can do realistic replication style art, but this type of art makes me want to go to sleep. If you can't co struct interesting and exciting or emotionally impacted tdul art from your imagination then I don't see the point. Learning to be a printer I'd pointless because printers and cameras exist. And even when they didn't exist I can't see what's in the infinite mystery if your mind if you are just showing me photo realistic images from the real world. To me, art is an opportunity to show the world the unseen mental images and dramas within.

[@nickunderscore]

Sorry to say it, but didn’t you miss the point? This is an exercise to build foundational skills which will transport into all art areas. Yes, some more than others. He mentioned figurative benefits often enough but other more lateral benefits too. But Pollock has been and gone. Yes there is still money to be made at that end of the spectrum, but it’s an almost empty mine now emotionally.

[@SaintMatthieuSimard]

I've seen that gesture, with the flat line pencil/brush, in some old cartoons when I was a kid without understanding what they were exactly doing, and now that I see you hold your pen like this, it all begins to make sense in my mind and it's awesome! hank's dude! Merci!

[@Ane_artdesigns]

I love both drawing and painting and I learned from my virtual class last summer that drawing is the foundation of painting. The best relationship in Art is the relationship of drawing and painting. The value contrast , color saturation make the painting comes alive. I’m learning proportions right now and doing the application memorizing the guidelines in my head and practice as much and analyzing the photo pr sceneries I see in my surroundings. I do love your tutorials because I love charcoal drawing and keep learning to reach my goal to be able to do realism portraiture. Thank u for sharing your in-depth knowledge 🔥🔥🔥

[@christinawysockiart1521]

Just got my bargues this weekend. Started with some of the smaller ones, the eyes in the first pages. Challenging!!

[@beeeean]

sight sizing is so freaking boring and it's bad for students because they wouldn't be able to understand the structure (planes on the face) and form (contour and cross-section). The only benefit is only proportions. This process is very mechanical and you are just replicating the image. Why not just use a camera.

[@atlantic_love]

Well said.

[@PaulRansonArt]

A very helpful video Florent. I've dabbled with portrait drawing and painting and when I spend time on the subject I can see the improvements, However my first love is seascapes. When I come back to portraits I have the same sense of being a beginner all over. The difference is that I can recover more quickly each time I take a break. Good practice is essential as you indicate in your video. Look forward to the next one.

[@enrater123]

Man, I wanna get into painting, what kind of material do you recommend for starters? (Like watercolor, oil, etc.)

[@PaulRansonArt]

@@enrater123 - Hi - this is Florents channel so I hope he doesn't mind my answer🤔🤔 I've painted with almost every type of material and keep coming back to oils as they dry slow and are great to learn with. However the finished paintings need time to dry so maybe not the most convenient. Water mixable oils are a game changer as the clean up is so easy without using thinners. My advise is to look for a local art class and see if they provide the paint for the class before diving into purchasing your paint. Try out different styles and materials - Happy Painting -

[@enrater123]

@@PaulRansonArt oh, I see, there were painting classes in my school but I unfortunately didn't sign up for them on time, I'll see if I can get in next year while I work on my drawing skills

[@faunaria7127]

i always knew that illustrating traditionally was some sort of physical activity. it's like dancing in a way, and it's beautiful

[@FlorentFargesarts]

It is a bit like dancing, indeed

[@trisht5064]

thank you so much ☺️ I can see how this technique works long but sure. also I was very inspired by the fact you are a self taught Artist, as am I. I really thought you had gone to art school , remarkable 👍clear dedication from you shines through

[@dougg1075]

I wonder if the old masters would have used the grid method if it were available to them.

[@kristina3threat]

When I was in art school, we used this technique for our still-life projects, straight down to the marker on the floor. Well done, Florent!

[@vivianuwakwestudio]

I honestly would go bonkers stepping back and forth from my easel like that but I must confess that the reward is fantastic. I like the quality of the final artwork.

[@sqpenn]

Got the Excalibur of pencils tf💀💀💀

[@iMakeThat]

Yay Florent!!! 🎉 Love your videos!!!

[@ElizabethBattle]

Ultimately, we are all self-taught... The creation of excellent art is most definitely a discipline. ...and in this case, actual exercise.😊

[@hazelcoate9203]

I started drawing first before I started Oil painting 🎨🖌️ and I stand back regularly when I am painting too,. Yes observation is key , 👍

[@rollomirfino6295]

Thanks for creating this channel, you have been most helpful with this technique re shapes to get a likeness. There are similarity’s to this method in a book I found fascinating many years ago & have used ever since ‘Drawing on the right side of the brain’ Observing is number one for me. The shapes, positive & negative angles etc & their relationships to other parts of the subject matter.

[@rociorizo8469]

Thank you so much for the book I will buy it and do as you said. Loved your video and your art. You are doing great God bless you ❤

[@bozoclown2098]

.... Playing(a wrongly done practice copy ) with a demo in Harold Speed book made me realize the variations ( of such lessons of/ like that Barque and Bridgman & other). My development was very sadly pathetic long. My work then always sell[out].

[@basinira8494]

Oh my)), I see, right - it's a r t s. Because, according to the initial image, it looked like a video about removing nose hair, (using a 19th century technique.)) But I really liked it. Besides nose hair removal , painting is my other great passion. So, Thank You

[@gregotox]

NGL I clicked on the video because I mistook the thumbnail for a dude self-lobotomizing or something after just reading "this technique is how"

[@VagalovStudio]

Hi from Serbia, and here we are, baroque are my way standard realism,but also still life love,animal art but all are in Baroque, why just because great shadows and ligts, and prefer power chrome painting.

[@reeeyou]

I never went to fine arts school asa digital artist, and i noticed many traditional artist marks out areas before shading or painting. Is there a specific name for it? I think it’s very interesting method to mark out and design a shapes.

[@leam1978]

“Forgotten technique” *except at any figure drawing lab

[@jaimehernandelgadoquintero4539]

Eres un gran Maestro,muchas gracias desde Bogotá Colombia

[@bozoclown2098]

There are many variations and looks for this book. MANY. Sadly they not done.

[@UhWellThen...]

0:47 What if you don't have the space or don't have the most functional legs?

[@catsgallery3864]

I’ve not seen a pencil sharpened like yours. I guess it avoids having to switch pencils frequently. 🤔

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Indeed, it mostly helps getting more angles and pressure variety which makes it easier to reach light values with great precision.

[@Gnaboaix]

It is necessary to be that sharpe to have even tones thus to make subtle transitions. 😊

[@MiddleEarths]

How do you sharpen it like that??

[@catsgallery3864]

@@MiddleEarths I’ll ask around and get back to you.

[@Gnaboaix]

@@MiddleEarths use sand paper

[@greekveteran2715]

Is there a reference photo or video,of the naked woman drawing,on the background at 1:20 please?

[@lechungus1832]

This is probably one of the most focus demanding and boring techinques.

[@shuvoDhar.5537]

Very helpful 👍🏻👍🏻❤❤❤

[@atlantic_love]

TLDR: use a Bargue Plate, and sight-see with a pencil.

[@paulwright5064]

Thank you Florent, very interesting.

[@anielsky4831]

Barque plates. I've been thinking about them and just got a video recommended.

[@KitanaTulip]

I just want to know how to sharpen my pencil like that

[@bozoclown2098]

I must copy a few Barque lessons in pan pastel !!

[@bettychilldres9860]

Ok... now if I were to draw this... that vertical plum line makes it easy to follow. Starting with the neck and underchin... because it's closest to the plum line, begin the shading on the neck, working your way out onto the underchin while darting your eyes back n forth (this helps your vision BLEND the 2 objectives TOGETHER). With out picking up your pencil, work your back to the neck and with a curved line UP to the ear, noting how the bottom ear lobe is in alignment with the bottom of the high cheek bone. THIS TYPE of drawing is called FREE ASSOCIATION DRAWING. 😊 It's like "leep frogging" from rock to rock with out falling into the pond... ha!! 😅

[@tutorialdrawing]

If i draw one model every month is it enough ?

[@jichaelmorgan3796]

Anyone ever do them upside down or to the side?

[@anapple6912]

Lol rip guess i cant become a professional

[@amonynous9041]

what I noticed immediately is your cheekbone is closer to the line and the whole head isn't wide enough. When I was in art school I used to draw 3d models and transferring them in 2d in my vision before putting on paper. That helped me a lot to get a 1:1 replica. You have to kind of disassociate from the 3d object in your mind and see it in this more abstract shape, it's not easy to explain, but this helped me a lot. It's like a meditative practice where you try to trick your brain to flatten the shape like it's already on paper.

[@Mattypantaloons]

Definitely tricky. Any tips in how to do that?

[@amonynous9041]

@@Mattypantaloons I guess it just comes with time, and you have to be relaxed and let the mind zone out, without thoughts or processes. It's basically meditation. Also we did a lot of croquis, which definitively helped a lot to see the whole picture, without focusing too much on the details. I think shadows and details become distraction for novices, we were always taught about the importance of the whole object and placement in space and movement and then reducing to details later if necessary for the assignment.

[@KingKing-bo5yf]

Every Road leads yo Rome. I learnt drawing in traditional way(half of them were Russian way) in northern China in Later 1980s to early 2000 through my childhood to university. I spent a lot hours on drawing. Thousands of thousands of hours. I never copied a 2d work. We went through hard way, directly copy from 3d objects to paper. But I still made it through. I guess in China, a lot us did it the hard way. I wish I knew this technique earlier. But I only found this technique like 5 years ago.

[@Mantina86]

Hi Florent. I'll be travelling to Paris on December and I don't wanna miss your exhibition. Do you know by any chance the opening hours? I guess weekends shouldn't be an issue, but just in case. Thanks :)

[@pentachronic]

From what I see you basically want to be exactly 2 arm lengths away from the subject. This way you don’t get foreshortneing and the scale is 1:1. Your “image plane” is 1 arm length always.

[@petervarah4629]

Hi Florent, quick question: do you look at the picture you are drawing at all when in the ‘drawing position’ or is it just when you are in the ‘observation position’? Thanks! I love your channel! 🎉

[@sherryshelton4228]

Title of the book you held up, please.

[@peterm.fitzpatrick7735]

I also have a paperback edition of "Cours de dessin" by Charles Barque and Jean-Leon Gerome. It is a wonderful way to learn how to draw.

[@tttm99]

...with music or even a podcast in the background... Or even a rooster! 🤣

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Haha, I know, this little monster is ruining my days 🤣

[@SaintMatthieuSimard]

The preview picture almost made me sneeze! :P Hey, first time on your channel! I feel like it'll be really enjoyable to stick around for a while!

[@RapidBlindfolds]

there are so many parallels in painting and drawings, glazing for example. thin layers of pencil shading looks much better than one layer of hard pressure, just like glazes in painting

[@propergunjah8726]

I've got myself hocker on wills and it's very comfy, I can move back and forth while sitting down.

[@somerandomfatguy.3384]

Sight and size technique its not forgotten but not popular since it is time consuming and requires absolute patience to make even a single mark. This technique is use full for comparative drawing.

[@oltharantoniopulvirenti5910]

Can a smaller picture help to avoid moving back? Maybe positioning It slightly tilted to look at It as straight as possible

[@MDots24]

Heya

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Heya 😊😊👋👋

[@lindasplaylist100]

The best book I have ever bought. Though it is an expensive text book. Very much worth it.

[@ChelseyK1ng]

aw come on brother, staring at goddamn easel for 14 hrs? have we never held a pencil before? anyway off to try it

[@simonlinser8286]

one time when i was a kid i wanted to draw this picture i had of my cat, so i took the photo, and measured out a one inch grid and drew it on with a pen. then i just drew a pencil grid on paper and then i could see that all the lines in the photo were just a line at this angle and it's this far from the corner, this far from top etc. it worked really well and i think if was a useful technique. kind of like a view finder

[@Iggy89]

Looks a lot like how you would set up the basic shape in a CAD program.

[@Mia-nn7dj]

Can someone please explain to me why pencil measuring distance is a thing? I never understood it and I don't see the point either 😭

[@rociorizo8469]

Thank you This is what I am looking for for a long time I like this technique

[@nesquikwit]

what type of paper/sketchbook would you recommend for this exercise? great video as always man 👍

[@seanbunnell2260]

Do you have a way for us to send our work ,to suggest, recommend ways to improve?

[@ybe7011]

I went to art school. We didn't learn in the atelier method. Most don't. So much of this information is new to me.

[@barbarakatsivoawere3804]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@FlorentFargesarts]

🙏🙏✨✨😊😊

[@gilgabro420]

ok but his chin is strange...

[@m-1782]

I'm not an artist at all, but I have to sketch what I see quickly and somewhat accurately for my studies and line of work. Would this type of technique be of use for someone like me?

[@FlorentFargesarts]

This technique helps overall but it always have to be complemented with quick drawing sessions, like 5 min poses etc. that part of the technique is the most important in your case, I would suggest to do 80% quick sketch and 20% of this sight-size.

[@m-1782]

@@FlorentFargesarts Thank you!! I'll look into exercises like that!

[@yvesdincau3269]

You will never learn how to draw or paint like that … just how to become a human printer

[@MrJoshybunz]

The thumbnail made me think this was a video about lobotomies

[@voidremoved]

You pencils are 4 inches bare 😅 I wonder why? If you hate wood on the pencils, you can buy just the bare pencil with no wood and save a whole tree it takes a whole tree to get 1 pencil and you just throw it away...

[@voidremoved]

funny my pencils are the opposite. Barely sticking from the wood at all. Then I remove a small bit, eventually, when it is hard to get contact with the paper. My paint brushes are also all dirty and hard, just like me. Dirty and hard with barely any pencil showing

[@Nigh7shad3]

Sniping for artists

[@antilopo]

I really like how you just jumped into it

[@DavidMcCoul]

That is the sharpest pencil I’ve ever seen.

[@FlorentFargesarts]

Haha, it's an art in itself to sharpen a point like this 😉

[@sydene54]

thank you. I will do this. so great

[@jamesjuggler5187]

Too many commercial. I can’t wathc this it feels too much like a Disney movie with too many previews.

[@bozoclown2098]

...3 crayon. Etc

[@arvetis]

clickbait title

[@trinabaker3186]

Thank you.

[@guynouri]

Intelligent approach thanks

[@HalkerVeil]

I'm starting to see that all these techniques, maths, and methods are defining who is an artist, and who is a craftsmen. This is like watching someone make a shoe. Artists don't use a medium correctly. They use whatever they can get in new an invetive ways to get their vison done. They don't care about the process. Never have.

[@HoradrimBR]

There was no art before the XIX century. Yes, right...

[@HalkerVeil]

@Gary Allen That's still a skilled craftmen to create a product. Instead of a shoe it's a painting for decor.

[@SpitfireRoad]

Wow, wth with that pencil lead?

[@SaintMatthieuSimard]

Ce qui est intéressant avec ton utilisation du crayon, bien que la longueur de la mine soit déjà un truc qui fait s'exclamer de surprise, c'est que tu fais des traits avec si peu de pression sur la mine que lorsque tu passes l'efface pour effacer les traits d'encrage, peu importe comment ça s'appelle, éh bien il n'en reste plus aucune trace, et le résultat est vraiment très propre!

[@voidremoved]

His pencil lead is super long that is strange 🤣 But haven't you invested in good drawing tools? good set of pencils, and some erasers. It is definitely worth to get a good set of erasers. But the softer pencils can make dark lines with little pressure. So the pencil does not get deep in the paper... With the right eraser it will come off clean. Same way with a good eraser you can bring some highlights to a drawing