This Guitar Style Dominated the 90's

#guitar #music #grunge #shorts
yessir. how to grunge. dig it.

[@Ruigi01]

I think it feels more natural and also gives it a weird kind of distortion. Not in the traditional sense but as in it has been malformed in some way.

[@StephBol]

Sound like you’re thinking of dissonance :) if done well it can be incredibly satisfying

[@avi_69]

​@@StephBolthe best example of that is Paranoid Android's solo imo

[@squirtle_of_lime5390]

Coming from a classical guitar background it does not seem natural or sound good at all, I'm so jealous though, I wish I could play like that and not hate every accidental you hear lol

[@sammacneill8838]

I love the video of Kurt shredding because he was only doing it to mock EVH 😂

[@1mpassion]

he liked eddie i’m pretty sure. there was a rumor that eddie was at one of his shows and kurt heard it and ended up power drilling his guitar lol

[@basedbenny696]

He only wishes he was EVH 😂

[@megaMagaManX8]

​@udisp2774did not know Eddy was based

[@fiftysecwithoutza]

@@megaMagaManX8 lmaoo you can't be older than 16

[@megaMagaManX8]

@@fiftysecwithoutza you're probably 20 at best with a room temp IQ. Try living near a city or idk look at crime statistics and you'll figure out why literally every one was racist before 2010

[@Ob1tuber]

Lars Ulrich: so when I’m sloppy, everyone makes a muck of it, but when they are sloppy, everyone cheers

[@bliss_gore5194]

Anyone would be sloppy next to James hetfield, man has his rhythm down like gravity

[@Tonceitoys]

Also one thing is being sloppy as a drummer and being sloppy as a guitarist. Guitar is more lenient on being sloppy in certain genres. Not so much about drums though

[@geraldfriend256]

@@Tonceitoys true

[@SixStringShredder]

@@bliss_gore5194James’s hand moves faster than a guys hand behind closed doors 😂

[@WoockerSocket2]

​@@Tonceitoyscoughs in reggae and funk 😵

[@M1A1.]

Billy is SUCH a underrated guitarist. I know people talk about his vocals alot. But his guitar skills are very good.

[@bramletr1]

Corgan’s octave style is the best. So much cooler than a power chord.

[@Casey3-P-O]

Yea, the way he uses octaves with open strings, along with the EH Big Muff tone is awesome.

[@Casey3-P-O]

@@doves9204 I fully agree with you about that. They're both great songwriters, but I'd say that Kurt was better at writing more concise and catchy pop songs with punk/metal instrumentation. But, I mean, Billy Corgan also has a great sense for catchy melodies. Bullet with butterfly wings and 1979 come to mind as songs that are extremely well written and catchy. They both were serious hit writers. Both of them are/were total badasses.

[@eliancaillet8400]

​@@doves9204ok Cobain had a better voice but billy creates beautiful lyrics and even if he doesn't have a great voice he use it very well

[@Casey3-P-O]

@@doves9204 yea I fully agree with you. Although I truly love Billy Corgan, I'm more into the pumpkin's "classics" and "hits" more than their less popular album tracks. But with Nirvana, I'll even listen to shitty demos and stuff because they were just like lightning in a bottle. And I agree with you about Kurt's raw intensity and talent. There will never be anyone like him. The dude was such a badass live. And yes that unplugged performance still gives me chills sometimes. And he went all out during their regular concerts. I mean, there are so many photos of him diving onto the drum set. He really got into it. I love that. I just wish he didn't smash so many guitars. I'm always like "dude...I woulda given that guitar a loving home..." lol

[@pjondeck5923]

@enriqueamaya3883bro no one asked nor cares

[@rattmcpossum]

Glad u shouted out the kurt cobain shredding vid, I hate it when people say he “sucked at guitar” like bruh he just was playing his own way

[@jamesyoung1356]

That Cherub Rock guitar part still slaps like a mofo

[@Thirteen31Music]

It isnt sloppy its playing loose with a feel/vibe. It adds personality vs the stiff boring strumming

[@Guitar_Jams]

I feel like kurt tried to mock shredding, but he accidentally realized he actually could and never did it again

[@numburger]

That Top of the Pops reference was subtle but great

[@fivenightsatsam1234]

I didn't know kurt could shred like that👍

[@basedbenny696]

He can't shred lmao playing nonsense isn't shredding

[@lampshade6579]

​@@basedbenny696Damn, Ryan. Kurt is quivering in his grave rn.

[@lampshade6579]

Kurt can actually be a really technical player. But his riffs are usually really basic, because he doesn't give af about making something technical, he always just wanted to make stuff that sounded good.

[@jimmymeinhart4265]

​@@lampshade6579lol I don't even think Kurt knew the pentatonic scale. I never understood people insisting on how Kurt could totally shred if he wanted to. He can't.

[@thelongestdongrod190]

​@@jimmymeinhart4265it's pretty proven that he could to an extent if he wanted to, he just never had an interest in it, and that messy solo in this video was him actively making fun of EVH lol. But kurt was much smarter than he appeared, he played guitar since he was like 15 til the end of his life, he put in his 10,000 hours.

[@aLeC13th]

Bro you should make vid making your own riff

[@antkiller7537]

He cant

[@arto9775]

This kid's the king of pointless videos.

[@brettpruefer7541]

Literally 90% of his videos 🤣 you’re a clown buddy 🤡

[@buttcrackbandit2432]

He can't, he makes videos about beginners riffs and beginner playing styles while acting like he's been playing for 20 years

[@tomking7080]

Kurt wasn’t known as a great guitar player like Jimmy Page,Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan,Clapton,Eddie Van Halen but he understood how to put together a great song. That’s why he loved the Beatles so much. Kurt stuck to the basics and wrote simple but great songs. I graduated high school in 1995 and I think the 90’s were the best era for music from every genre

[@gootchspooch9]

Billy corgan looking like justin beiber in that first pic

[@nickphaux]

They were also both masters of Courtney Love 😂

[@deadroses19]

LMFAO

[@sam-e.]

i sorta developed a style like this when my chord switching was rly slow and i tried to force myself to switch faster by playing at the normal time even if my fingers werent there, it sounded sloppy most of the time but sometimes some rly interesting hammer ons were made

[@katafromph]

We were all flipped off without knowing it 😂

[@josifyyy]

that’s just the most comfortable way to play an octave chord

[@mattmoore4044]

A great thing to practice not just for grunge/alternative, but for thrash and punk too

[@scottashe984]

That isn't sloppy, it's deliberate my dude.

[@0IlIIIl0]

Dude knows 5 bands.

[@fieder4280]

And he is in love with Jimi Hendrix and Kurt cobain 😂

[@zanemartin-music]

Hey this is like the first tine he talked about Smashing Pumpkins

[@elijahpelito4722]

As a person into rock too, who in the fking world cares if he only likes one band it does not affect you anyway. But as a person scrolling yt shorts, yeah, he needs some variety it is getting pretty stale even if it is mostly about Nirvana

[@buttcrackbandit2432]

No, he knows 5 easy riffs

[@swissarmyknight4306]

I mean, I'm a lot older than him, so I know like 20 bands well enough to make content about them. I'm not gonna make content about Thin Lizzy (even though they're great) because I don't know enough about them to do it right.

[@DRDINOMEOW]

Love how you been working on your “jam face”! I’ve been working on it for 20 years 😂

[@williammann9256]

I always forget that Billy Corgan had hair lol

[@sirtyn]

Corgan is my favorite guitar player.

[@gregaze]

absolutely agree with this, the pumpkins were my favorite band out of that scene by far

[@patrickkoenigsfeld1253]

Nuances. Most have miscomprehension of nuance. The better you get, the more nuanced you become! Subtle but powerful!

[@andreskosberg4566]

it all comes down to timing and the balls bro

[@Lyvey]

i’ve been personally practicing this without realizing it since i’ve started. when i’m recording riffs i notice that sounds especially after a couple times of playing it straight i’ll start letting some higher strings ring out or add a little hiccup/ fill to my strumming pattern without realizing it

[@zaielnunca991]

BOTH MY PILLARS

[@Tryptich]

Sloopy playing is the best. Lennon, Page, Frusciante, Cobain, give me always that

[@mattrocksgaming7779]

"Billy Corgan's voice sounds great to"

[@Nick-jm7pq]

GOAT of doing a weird hand and face thing at the start of the video 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@petzouqi76]

Thanks to this we got Genesong from Steve Vai.

[@ilyenamaru]

YES the best song from halo 2a

[@jmason61]

BC was & is a very good guitar player....if it sounded sloppy on those early records that's because he wanted it to sound that way.

[@shartmaster_3000]

Another fire video

[@naturesbest7977]

Chad I Ginsberg, is super underrated as a guitarist. That guy shreds, so does Deron Miller.

[@saulgoodman5148]

billy corgan is a very technical player. cherub rock is the only riff you could argue for this.

[@abalt3019]

I started sloppy accuracy in Kindergarten with my dysgraphia yo!

[@yellow_stains]

I wouldn't say cky had sloppy accuracy. Their riffs are really technical and need precision, still don't know how Darren Miller sings and plays at the same time.

[@jaysonscott187]

You put cky in with those great bands.

[@trentdogg98]

We like to call it playing w passions thank youuuuu

[@johnhoyne5825]

Jaguar is beautiful

[@waliveroliver5854]

I love smashing pumpkins so much, geek USA is the best

[@char2k]

I LOVE CKY

[@cdavidlake2]

Sloppy accuracy sounds exactly like something that *would* run amok.

[@Yardmastr]

Nice Man U should do some lessons these styles !! Definitely searching for this sound in my own music

[@matthewaguirre9517]

you should do a mod to make your jag like kurts!

[@UltimateWobbleBoss]

Did my guy only just discover putting the octave on top of a power chord like wtaf

[@rksdmf]

Mikey, just a tip. Always start “teen spirit” on an upstroke. It’s how Kurt did it. Also, you gotta get one of the Kurt Jaguars, they rip!

[@aaronkubat1243]

That's how I play. Drone that low E

[@eventheoddss]

I liked the reference to Kurt’s mockery on totp lol

[@Zaq-official-music]

DISTORTION AT THE END WOAH

[@user-xo4jp9kn7h]

Fun way to play for sure

[@tm_kh]

I saw a video of Kurt playing it live, and he would also slide a half step up at the end of each phrase gives it like a little bit of a lilt

[@fltremblay381]

I didn't know Cobain could shred like this!

[@noahtheiguana935]

That was Kurt making fun of EvH 💀

[@swissarmyknight4306]

@spacemaninvader5199 Imagine selling 75 million records and having someone say "He was so much better than what he showed." My dude, he did show it, that's how he sold 75 million records.

[@NightWolf4223]

I'm that type of guitarist. Sloppy Accuracy is my game.

[@pizzacat4395]

my dad opened for presidents once i actually met the lead singer when i was young bc he is now an children's author and songwriter

[@captaintony1227]

since I started playing guitar in 94 I pretty much only learned grunge for years. I played a lot like that for years . I still love the way it sounds but I had to also learn to play with more precision and dynamic.

[@frangg8139]

Learn o lot of you thanks you ❤

[@ryanfrankel8726]

*Tom DeLonge has entered the chat*

[@dc_latername9064]

The thing is though about Kurt Cobain is that people say it's sloppy, because what he's actually doing is so different than what everyone else was doing that it goes over people's heads. Sometimes he did play sloppy like that solo, which he probably did for a certain effect. But, it took me 13 years of playing to just scratch the surface of what he was actually doing. Then I started to realize he was doing all these super unique guitar techniques that didn't even have names back then, I'd bet and some still don't probably. He would just seem to go with the flow and unlock these things to make his songs sound better, but you can tell he's completely calculated by how well his songs are put together on the albums. Not to idolize anyone, but he truly was a genius and I think if push came to shove he was the best musician to ever make it big, talent wise. Even queen only had like 20 actual good songs... Same for Lynyrd Skynyrd and everyone but the pixies. Kurt died when he was only 27 and he had 101 songs that people love. And I'm pretty sure he did made up the bass lines as well and just had krist play it. Drums too before grohl, quite a bit possibly.

[@maverickpro]

DeLeo from STP and the dude from 311, as well.

[@John--]

YESSS YOU DID IT

[@greenfly1264]

That last couple of flicks in Teen Spirit were perfect .😊

[@kenkline6319]

I move my hands like this to hide how dorky I really look

[@cubegaming9372]

I love Kurt cobain

[@strumdogmillionaire]

Almost there with teen spirit lol

[@jeffjefferson8137]

i saw an interview of billy after kurt died, he saidsomething like, “yea he was a great guitarist i knew i was good but now that he’s gone i’m definitely the best” corgan really is a self involved ass. great guitarist tho lol

[@tonydarko67]

I learn guitar on my own… I don’t play clean at all… sometimes there’s a sound to it that I quite enjoy… and sometimes my strings won’t be in tune and I come up with these riffs that get lost because I tune my guitar again… and it never sounds the same

[@dinglepringle902]

Quite mind blowing

[@spudvader]

Did you know Smells Like Teen Spirit starts with an upstroke…

[@Takkun1138]

Thank you for pointing this out! So many people say Kurt was just a "bad" player. I really think he knew how to play the guitar well; he just also knew how to bastardize it, and make things sound new. Reminiscent of old blues players and proto-punk. "Sloppy Accuracy" is a good phrase for it tho!

[@Tuck3rm00r3]

Sloppy shit sounds so much better it adds so much more personality and flare to the music its like its always just ever so slightly different each time they play

[@unknown6390]

😂😂

[@bloodeagle4417]

Clean versions sound to polished I prefer the raw sound but I dig your vids

[@nick326697]

Sloppy accuracy = oxymoron! Nice video

[@dumbsocceradventures2621]

crazy how i realized this when i played high

[@caketits2723]

You and I have the exact same guitar strap, lol.

[@yaboykaede]

That Strat you have is my DREAM guitar! I would genuinely kill for one.❤

[@shamanllama]

Imagine thinking Smashing Pumpkins was sloppy...do you not realize the alount of work that went into Siamese Dream 😂

[@forcemajeur.5138]

Same with Sonic Youth.

[@geetar.]

I hate how everyone hates kurt cobain so much hes an icon nd one of my favorite styles to play

[@oriyashimonjosef4798]

My fav youtuber

[@billytootill5885]

That's crazy difference as if you used a pedal and sloppy riff!!! wild.

[@lewlewlemonade]

the top of the pops refrance xd

[@Burnerforalearner]

I never realized it until recently but when I watch live videos of nirvana, I always see that Kurt started the main riff with an upstroke. Anyone else notice this?

[@joeywitt7129]

It always bugged me when people would say Kurt wasn't very good wrong he actually was a pretty good player

[@Wes-10]

I didn’t know that Kirko Bangz played guitar

[@duelfueled]

do a video on the starcaster

[@metriffs]

This is like when a child tried to school it's parent

[@AmyGuyyysss]

Play the bohemian rhapsody solo

[@quantumsuicide9879]

That’s actually kinda how I play ngl

[@jeffjefferson8137]

a lot of the time if i’m playing power chord stuff i just use two fingers and hit open strings in between changing chords

[@rafaelcabralwilliams]

That's my strumming style, also the true master of this is the great J Mascis from Dinosaur Jr.

[@Seven7Pain1]

sloppy playing was reason grunge was loved and in the words of my favorite guitarist you dont have to be technical to be a Great guitarist James (Munky) Shaffer KoRn 😎

[@hellrose18]

Ok,no,cKy was never sloppy in their playing

[@dontpissoffraccoons]

I've literally never seen any video/audio of cky playing sloppy

[@hellrose18]

@@dontpissoffraccoons exactly. Did they use octabe pedals? Yes, anyone who had a working ear can hear that, but to lump them together with Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins is assanine

[@dontpissoffraccoons]

@@hellrose18 I'm assuming he just threw them in there because he's newly interested in the band, and wanted to show off he liked them in a video.

[@hellrose18]

@@dontpissoffraccoons he did think polyphia originally wrote the riff. They're good technically, but they couldnt write a hook/riff to save their lives. All they do is jerk off on the guitar.

[@xCosmicJellyfishx]

Cobain was, but i disagree on billy. He really used those octaves well, had a great ear for distortion, and had some great solos, like siva. In fact siva overall is just a really solid track....

[@robbell8377]

How were Cobain’s power chords like barre chords? It’s extremely common to include the octave in a power chord

[@swissarmyknight4306]

He sometimes/often would fret the note below the octave, turning the power chord into a Sus4 or Major barre chord. Major feature of Kurt's playing actually.

[@bladxw]

Why was CKY in there??? Sure their first album was in early 99’ but i wouldn’t really count them as a 90s band.

[@TommyWashow]

cause this kid knows nothing

[@pennplayz]

Part of the “it” factor of Smells Like Teen Spirit is the fact that it sounds like some dudes performing in their garage, and the sloppy accuracy definitely adds to that

[@Stumpstump]

I've thankfully mastered the sloppy technique after a few years of playing by ear lmao. Anytime someone hears me playing they always ask for slts and I do it...

[@reubster529]

Any idea what song Kurt is shredding on

[@rolandojescobarjr7720]

Hey thanks that’s what I’m going to tell my friends when we jam I’m just sloppy accurately playing haha