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This Hidden Danger Killed 68 People (American Eagle Flight 4184) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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Disaster Breakdown

Disaster Breakdown

Күн бұрын

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October 31st, 1994. Its Halloween. A small commuter plane was preparing to make its landing in the afternoon midwestern rain. American Eagle Flight 4184 was a short flight from Indianapolis to Chicago. A journey of only 150 miles give or take. A total of 68 passengers and crew were on board the small ATR72 turboprop that afternoon. The passengers may have been looking forward to arriving in Chicago but delays due to weather and air traffic congestion has been keeping them in the holding pattern south of Chicago.
American Eagle Flight 4184 Crashed near Roselawn, Indiana.
#aviation #weather
00:00 Accident Timeline
17:07 Weather Report
23:40 Heart of the Accident
36:17 It Gets Worse for American Eagle
44:20 Closing
Sources:
NTSB Report: www.ntsb.gov/i...
Chicago Tribune Archives
Stephen Frederick's "Unheeded Warning" (Former American Eagle Pilot)
Great Summary of Super Cooled water: • What is Supercooled Wa...
Other Sources:
www.chicagotri...
www.baaa-acro....
ntrs.nasa.gov/...
library.oarclo...
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weatherspark.c...
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skybrary.aero/....
caselaw.findla...
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@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
This video went out to my Patrons on Patreon Two Days before going out publicly. Consider joining here from £1 per month: www.patreon.com/DisasterBreakdown Twitter: twitter.com/Chloe_HowieCB
@genghis_connie
@genghis_connie 10 ай бұрын
Wishing you the very best with your surgery and healing!❤
@jamesteddystudios984
@jamesteddystudios984 10 ай бұрын
We knew flight 4184 was the new one. Can the next one be Arrow Air flight 1285? Cool video by the way
@Gospel_weekly
@Gospel_weekly 10 ай бұрын
The weather report I thought was really well written, good job
@GrimFelArt
@GrimFelArt 10 ай бұрын
Off-topic from the video but your dress is so pretty and you chose a lovely lipstick colour to complement it!
@Gospel_weekly
@Gospel_weekly 10 ай бұрын
@@GrimFelArt so much different clothing from the first videos that he uploaded back at start of chamnel, go have A look
@JoeyFlyBoy
@JoeyFlyBoy 10 ай бұрын
Imagine yourself on the first day of the job as a flight attendant, only for it to be tragically cut short within 24 hours. I cant help but feel sorry for Ms. Holberg
@bradsanders407
@bradsanders407 10 ай бұрын
You know someone in her family was probably worried about this very thing and they probably had terrible premonitions the rest of their lifes.
@jrt2792
@jrt2792 10 ай бұрын
Aviation unfortunately has and always been a dangerous field. So many factors at play.
@tski3458
@tski3458 10 ай бұрын
Shitiest lottery of them all.
@john2k24
@john2k24 10 ай бұрын
@@jrt2792absolutely, even on the ground!
@RupertReynolds1962
@RupertReynolds1962 10 ай бұрын
​@@jrt2792It's still safer than driving to the airport!
@ricomartins_
@ricomartins_ 7 күн бұрын
Coming here because of the recent disaster in Brazil (august 9th, 2024) involving an ATR aircraft from VoePass airlines that killed 62 people. Thanks a looot for this video!!!!
@user-xz4ke3qw7w
@user-xz4ke3qw7w 10 ай бұрын
I am a retired mechanic/crew chief from a major US air carrier and have enjoyed crash analysis from two other you tube presenters. I stumbled into one of your videos a couple weeks ago and was blown away by the detail you place in your videos be it the weather, physics, or mechanical issues related to a particular incident. They are not only informative, but they teach as well. Thank you for your time and effort into very well produced videos.
@Andrew-iv5dq
@Andrew-iv5dq 10 ай бұрын
I highly recommend KZbin videos from Mentour Pilot. Very detailed and NO dramatic filler like “Little did they know that today would be different…”. Also the creator, Petter, is a 737 pilot and trainer for Ryan Air.
@AntheaFlattus
@AntheaFlattus 9 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-iv5dq I watch Mentour Pilot, Green Dot Aviation and Disaster Breakdown. Those are totally the best available!
@Ali_D_Katt
@Ali_D_Katt 7 ай бұрын
​@@Andrew-iv5dqI find the foreshadowing refreshing. I find her style brings the more human element into the accident report. I love mentour pilot but he has a different style. I can watch a break down of the same incident on both channels and take something different from each.
@Lisa-vd5vu
@Lisa-vd5vu 6 ай бұрын
@@AntheaFlattus you should check out 74 Gear too. Kelsey is a 747 pilot and is informative and entertaining.
@m.t.8181
@m.t.8181 4 ай бұрын
The technical aspect added to the investigation make this channel unique better. Thanks for the excelente work.
@theautistictransitfan
@theautistictransitfan 10 ай бұрын
It’s always a good day when Disaster Breakdown uploads a 50 minute video, and you best believe I’m watching every second of it
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Second biggest video on the channel here to be exact!
@DevPigg
@DevPigg 10 ай бұрын
Noice
@inthastreetzwithkj5564
@inthastreetzwithkj5564 10 ай бұрын
Currently watching this before I board a plane
@1776PonySoldier
@1776PonySoldier 10 ай бұрын
Definitely was worth the wait!
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 10 ай бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdown Loved your weather reporter Chloe - where did you find them from ? they are a great presenter ;almost as good as you! LOL
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 10 ай бұрын
38:21 NASA found this out rather ingeniously. They took a Boeing KC-135 StratoTanker and modified its refuelling boom to spray water. Then, while in flight, an ATR-72 was flown right behind the StratoTanker. And yellow dye in the water was able to show where the ice was most prone to forming.
@AlphaGarg
@AlphaGarg 10 ай бұрын
Dyes - nice! That's the same way feline optometrists figure out if a cat's sclera (I think that's what the transparent bit is called);is wounded or has dead tissue.
@malcolmwhite6588
@malcolmwhite6588 10 ай бұрын
@@AlphaGarg Yep had that done with my beautiful Burmese pussycat who has since passed😢- It was an expensive process but fortunately they didn’t have to fly a KC135 in front of him which would’ve been traumatic and even more expensive and also I would’ve had to sit out on the wing of a following aircraft holding him 😂
@andrewdillon7837
@andrewdillon7837 10 ай бұрын
WTF has that got to do with an aircrash ,,You flexing your flash cat , what a fuckwit@@AlphaGarg
@kuro9410_ilust
@kuro9410_ilust 10 ай бұрын
that must be a nerve wracking experience for the ATR pilots
@SilveniumTheDrifter
@SilveniumTheDrifter 10 ай бұрын
Hope they got lots of hazard pay!
@periwinkleadidas
@periwinkleadidas 10 ай бұрын
this is the first time i’ve heard pilots organize against airlines like this, kudos to them and to you for highlighting their work!!!!
@zestyquestman8378
@zestyquestman8378 10 ай бұрын
you'd be surprised at how often pilots organise, the pilots union has such pressure on the industry it is one of the most important organisations in american aviation
@witchy90210
@witchy90210 9 ай бұрын
@@zestyquestman8378 without them airlines lose money FAST and they arent simple to replace.
@ivanpetrov5185
@ivanpetrov5185 7 ай бұрын
What about the mandatory COVID jabs. Didn't the pilots organize back then? How many of them lost their jobs for not taking the jabs.
@witchy90210
@witchy90210 7 ай бұрын
@@ivanpetrov5185 Those are very good questions that you make that sound like we should answer in a way that you want us to. But did they? Maybe you can tell us about that. At least I dont remember there being a pilot strike over vaccinations let alone mass firings over it. In fact i would assume many lost their jobs due to the massive decrease in air travel at the time. Why they still havent been hired back I can only attribute to company greed.
@durdleduc8520
@durdleduc8520 6 ай бұрын
@@ivanpetrov5185 they said it was the first time they heard of it. what did you expect? "ohhh right i forgot?" they weren't watching your news station, dude.
@douglassjc
@douglassjc 7 күн бұрын
It is too early to confirm, but yesterday's ATR72 accident in Brazil, which occurred in severe icing conditions, suggests that the ice issues may not have been fully addressed yet.
@FN_FAL_4_ever
@FN_FAL_4_ever 10 ай бұрын
I was a high school freshman when the news broke about the crash; seeing the degree of fragmentation and the crater on the TV was eye opening, but when they showed the hundreds of wooden stakes with marker flags that denoted a body or body fragment, it left a indelible impression on me that remains today. This was my first time learning just how deadly ice is to aircraft.
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 6 ай бұрын
It was a nice fragmentation and quite normal for the events of the circumstances inconvenience
@hendersonribeirobrandina2120
@hendersonribeirobrandina2120 7 күн бұрын
We had an accident in Brazil today that's very similar and many people are saying it happened for the same reasons as flight 4184. We can't say anything yet but it's hard to deny the similarities. The weather conditions here were bad and we saw the plane falling like a brick from the sky in a vertical line in a full stall and spinning flat around itself (unusual). The nose was alined with the horizon. Completly uncontrolable... Horrible disaster.... Sad day here.
@robm3074
@robm3074 10 ай бұрын
I take away a couple of things with this video. My heart goes out to the poor girl that was on her 1st day as a flight attendant. I just retired after over 50 years as a flight attendant and came home with very very few incidents over my career let alone an accident. I am truly very grateful. More important though is we look at the record for aviation incidents or accidents over the last 30 years. We have come a long way in this industry especially in the last 20 years. The industry has become very safe and hopefully we'll continue to be safe as this is the first priority.
@giggiddy
@giggiddy 10 ай бұрын
You were a flight attendant into your 70s?
@Skyhawk1998
@Skyhawk1998 10 ай бұрын
Flight attendants have had a big role in the safety of aviation, too. Knowing you had such a long career without a major accident puts into perspective that kind of responsibility - decades could go by without much of note but some FAs then find themselves the hero of the story with no warning.
@tracycolvin7789
@tracycolvin7789 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations on 50 years..from one flight attendant to another. I retired after 30 years.🙂
@conditionallyunconditional5691
@conditionallyunconditional5691 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. I experienced a few close calls..loss of power, a landing gear malfunction, several bird strikes and a near miss air collision in Nigerian airspace. We had superb aircrew, strict aircraft maintenance, excellent airfield management. Military airlift had higher standards, in my opinion.
@ktnorwegian2502
@ktnorwegian2502 9 ай бұрын
​conditionallyunconditional5691p machine m m m m m m m😅😊😊😊😊
@ThePilot_USA
@ThePilot_USA 7 күн бұрын
And as incredible as it is, August 2024 yet another ATR-72 crashes in Brazil where videos of the accident give clues of a stalled aircraft coming out of the clouds indicating the possibility (too early to tell as of today) of a repeat of the same accident. 🤔
@versianimoreira
@versianimoreira 7 күн бұрын
Sad true 😢
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 6 күн бұрын
Yeah
@yungblade7
@yungblade7 3 күн бұрын
These planes are not good. They have the #1 crash rating. It baffles me how they continue to use a plane that's incapable of flying the way it should. These should never be flown again
@ThePilot_USA
@ThePilot_USA 3 күн бұрын
@@yungblade7 none of the turbopro planes are certified to fly in "severe" icing conditions, which appears to be the case on the brazilian accident.
@TheShowblox
@TheShowblox 7 күн бұрын
An ATR 72 crashed yesterday, August 9, 2024, 61 dead. R.I.P.
@BlingtingSam
@BlingtingSam 6 күн бұрын
Same in Nepal. These planes are easy to stall death traps.
@1compaqedr8
@1compaqedr8 6 күн бұрын
@@BlingtingSam not same. that was absolute pilot error from misconfiguring the power settings mistakenly.
@arthurdefreitaseprecht2648
@arthurdefreitaseprecht2648 4 күн бұрын
​@@BlingtingSamin Nepal there where multiple errors in succession, approaching the runway in a non-standard procedure, wrong propeller setting, tunnel vision... The accident from Brazil is still under investigation
@zinac420
@zinac420 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this crash. Happened roughly 1 hour from where I grew up. The fact that people KNEW about the issues with icing is absolutely heartbreaking. The weather segments are a favorite of mine, really well done :)
@shaund9759
@shaund9759 10 ай бұрын
same
@richardkeilig4062
@richardkeilig4062 10 ай бұрын
I am sad for all on board this plane.
@isalin3429
@isalin3429 10 ай бұрын
same ty chloe!!!
@Jens-Viper-Nobel
@Jens-Viper-Nobel 5 ай бұрын
That people knew and the BEA was even trying to make it pilot error to protect their French aircraft production is not what I would call heartbreaking. I'm furious at people who deliberately risked the lives of passengers for the sake of the almighty $. And in this incident they killed 68 people for that reason. The fact is that a number of recommendations after crashes are not adressed by the aircraft manufactorers if they can avoid it because it cost money to correct the flaw. It is in those cases never adressed until another crash occurs that will kill even more people until the accumulated death tally becomes to high to ignore for even the most hardline $ seekers that anything is done. And then only because they don't want to miss out on further sales. Not because peoples lives are of any importance to them even if they will always claim that to be their primary concern. But somehow their actions and explanations always have a very eerie resemplance to the Göebbels manner of adressing issues from the pulpit.
@jetpilott2420
@jetpilott2420 2 ай бұрын
As an airline pilot, I am very impressed by the way you dive into the details with 0 errors. Nicely done. 👏🏻
@luisamartins4758
@luisamartins4758 7 күн бұрын
ATR-72 had crashed in Brazil - 2024, Aug09. Ice conditions level 170.
@existentialcrisisactor
@existentialcrisisactor 10 ай бұрын
These long form documentaries are amazing! I love and appreciate the depth you go into to help understand the variables involved with these disasters.Thank you so much for the hard work you put in!
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@darkfox2076
@darkfox2076 10 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say it's amazing how far you've come, Chloe. Really enjoyed this one, especially the weather report. Thanks for all your efforts to keep me entertained. Can't wait for the next one ❤
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JuakoRanger
@JuakoRanger 10 ай бұрын
​@@DisasterBreakdownSame, Love your weather reports. Not only shows how much specific weather conditions can do to a flying metal cylinder, but it also gives a face to the channel in a way that's organic and entertaining to watch. Love your videos
@NettieKossart
@NettieKossart 9 ай бұрын
That dark blue lipstick slays! I wish I could pull it off. ❤
@herusaleron6793
@herusaleron6793 6 ай бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdownabsolutely adore your weather reports chloe! gives a little light hearted break to the videos and they remind me of watching morning news and it’s just adorable!
@SwuaveWEB
@SwuaveWEB 2 ай бұрын
Chloe is a girls name. The presenter in this video is clearly male. What?
@AndrewJones-cx6kl
@AndrewJones-cx6kl 10 ай бұрын
I was flying home from Dallas to Minnesota when that plane went in. It shocked me. Hundreds of those ATR ‘s flew out of DFW back then. Very rare to see an aircraft the turn over and dive in like that. It was very bad weather that day indeed.
@NovejSpeed3
@NovejSpeed3 10 ай бұрын
Facts! DFW had ATRs everywhere!!! I loved how they would turn into the gate, giving jetbridge access to the rear pax door and could continue turning out, requiring no pushback.
@yungblade7
@yungblade7 3 күн бұрын
Imagine your life being determined by weather on a flight. Unacceptable.
@lucasdasilvaribeiro8918
@lucasdasilvaribeiro8918 8 күн бұрын
I'm from Brazil and there was a crash near São Paulo this morning that seams to share some similarity with this disaster 😢
@redbird444
@redbird444 7 ай бұрын
Former Simmons pilot here. Well done presentation and factually accurate. One aspect that contributed to the loss of control was the ATR’s excellent autopilot. It could mask control issues until it couldn’t handle them anymore leaving the pilots with unflyable control forces upon sudden disconnection. The rudder also is limited at moderate speed rendering it near useless should it be needed above its limiting speed. This crash was another example of big business putting profit and loss ahead of safety. Miss you Sandi. 😢 1:02
@airstation2030
@airstation2030 5 ай бұрын
To Sandi Modaff.....with the wry smile and giggly laugh....
@yosefthomas804
@yosefthomas804 8 күн бұрын
An ATR-72 Just crashed today in Vinhedo, São Paulo, Brazil. Perhaps for the same reason 😢
@paulkelley3901
@paulkelley3901 10 ай бұрын
i was going to make a long, drawn out comment on just how great your videos have become, but seeing how so many of your viewers have already done so i just want to say two things. first, i sincerely hope all goes well for you with your surgery. i hope your recovery goes smoothly and you can get back to these videos quickly. secondly, and if i may be so bold...royal blue is absolutely your color! take care and be well!
@georgittesingbiel219
@georgittesingbiel219 10 ай бұрын
I would be totally freaking out when the plane started to roll. Those poor passengers! RIP TO EVERYONE.😢
@zikalokof1challenge414
@zikalokof1challenge414 7 күн бұрын
Just chills man, another ATR went down today and people are speculating to be icing of the wings... Did the hidden danger strike again?
@vitorsilva2478
@vitorsilva2478 7 күн бұрын
An atr-72 just crashed yesterday in Brasil, and we have a SImEG of severe ice, he went to a stall.
@yungblade7
@yungblade7 3 күн бұрын
The plane shouldn't be flying
@bernhardjordan9200
@bernhardjordan9200 8 күн бұрын
It just happened again 8/9/24 in Vinhedo-SP/Brazil 68 souls on bord , it fell from the sky like a helicopter seed ,
@zetti9
@zetti9 7 күн бұрын
We from Brazil, yesterday, just have an similar accident, which 61 people died. So sad to see that it's not that so incommun. We really felt a lot for this accident in 1994
@TUPELO_HUNNY
@TUPELO_HUNNY 7 күн бұрын
I dont understand why a regional airline in Brazil would fly an ATR72 considering Brazil manufacturers the Embraer which is personally my favorite airframe. RIP to the 61 innocent people who lost their lives. Greed is the downfall of humanity
@dronevan
@dronevan 7 күн бұрын
@@TUPELO_HUNNY brazilians tend to export their best and use the rest... this goes for food and other things.
@Sisifo628
@Sisifo628 5 күн бұрын
@@TUPELO_HUNNYEmbraer does not have turboprops planes in its portfolio, only turbofans. It happens that for distances up to 500Nm turboprops are more fuel efficient. This is why airlines chose this kind of airplane in shorter routes.
@TUPELO_HUNNY
@TUPELO_HUNNY 5 күн бұрын
@@Sisifo628 yes i know
@charlesschneiter5159
@charlesschneiter5159 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Chloe for another very well put explanation of weather phenomena! As a very young ATP I had been in a similar situation on a SAAB 340. The only warning we got in the cockpit were a somewhat unexplained reduction in airspeed and a marked change in wind noise. I immediately requested a descent clearance and started my descent at the same time. Only later did I learn, that the 340 was susceptible to tail-plane icing in conditions where supercooled moisture was present... Your weather report as always is spot on and even for an old ATP interesting to learn form. Keep up the good work - much appreciated!
@eduardosantabaya5348
@eduardosantabaya5348 7 ай бұрын
Sol Líneas Aéreas, Flight 5428 crashed near Prahuaniyeu, Argentina after severe icing, a SAAB 340A, same previous symptoms kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2KoeniqiMeskMU (it's in Spanish)
@burncycle4621
@burncycle4621 7 ай бұрын
X to doubt. Nobody calls themselves "an ATP".
@charlesschneiter5159
@charlesschneiter5159 7 ай бұрын
@@burncycle4621 aha... ya even know what ATP means? Care to offer a better abbreviation? 🤔
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 6 ай бұрын
It sounds like you reacted appropriately to maintain control of your airplane. Good piloting!
@charlesschneiter5159
@charlesschneiter5159 6 ай бұрын
@@bbgun061Thank you bbgun061! There, but for the grace of God, went I
@andrect7030
@andrect7030 7 күн бұрын
Who is here because of the Voepass airlines crash in Brasil?
@versianimoreira
@versianimoreira 7 күн бұрын
Elevate possibilities.
@pauloroberto27395
@pauloroberto27395 4 күн бұрын
Me
@caili999
@caili999 7 күн бұрын
The disaster today in Brazil was similar it seems. Very sad.
@spacecat85
@spacecat85 10 ай бұрын
Chloe getting excited about science just made my garbage evening much better. Thanks also for the great explanations as usual!
@Butchcavalier
@Butchcavalier 10 ай бұрын
I remember giving a short presentation about supercooled moisture in physics class to improve my abysmal grade! Thank you very much for your in-depth work, it's videos like these that remind me how excited I actually am about physics and the like now that there's not the looming threat of an exam attached to it.
@rebekahvillon4245
@rebekahvillon4245 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE the weather report segments - it's such a charming and effective way to present the information. Great job!
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@green-ista1460
@green-ista1460 10 ай бұрын
Dear Chloe, the quality of this video is exceptional. The amount of detail and background work that has gone into is very very impressive and your dedication for communicating correct information is commendable!
@SolsticeV
@SolsticeV 10 ай бұрын
Today I learned that SLDs have the power to bring aircraft down in a matter of seconds. The in depth explanation from the weather segment makes this channel stand out from the others! Keep up the amazing work!
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 6 ай бұрын
Not seconds, but perhaps minutes. The pilots in this accident continued flying in icing conditions, at a speed that was too slow. They ignored the warning signs and did nothing to escape the icing conditions. The captain even mentioned that he was concerned about stalling, yet he did nothing about it.
@dmtsza
@dmtsza 8 күн бұрын
Tragically, another accident involving an ATR-72 occurred today (August 9, 2024) in Brazil, claiming 62 lives (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnfFnJ6MepqljZo). While the exact cause of the accident is still under investigation, initial reports suggest that icing, due to weather conditions, is a likely factor.
@RiftWalker111
@RiftWalker111 10 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in the caribbean and have personally flown in a ATR before I never knew of it history, thank you for sharing once again.
@greenthing99100
@greenthing99100 10 ай бұрын
Great video Chloe, I'm sorry I can't support you financially because I live on a pension due to motor neurone disease (very much a one-way ticket - people think MND/ALS is rare but one's lifetime chance of acquiring MND is 1 in 300, however I work as a scientist volunteer and we are getting closer to cures for neurodegenerative diseases which will be great news when we get there). I can support you by telling you that you are doing a fantastic job, and you will be in my thoughts and prayers when you are having the surgery and recovering from it. Love from Rick
@OfMoachAndMayhem
@OfMoachAndMayhem 8 күн бұрын
Sadly, it appears this exact same scenario has cost 61 lives down in Brazil today (as of this commentary posting) - Wx Conditions were present, with severe icing SIGMETs and all, which may have been why an exactly alike ATR-72 was filmed this afternoon coming down in an unsurvivable flat-spin. It crashed in a residential area, where fortunately it did not hit anyone on the ground. A number of houses were damaged though, so it could have been an even worse disaster if not for a little "luck" (if you can call it that, in such a dreadful day) Now the questions: WHY were they flying an ATR through reported severe icing conditions? What else might have happened to put the plane in that position to begin with? And what else went wrong that no recovery was possible? Was it really the same case, or just strangely alike circumstances surrounding something else? We'll have to wait for the investigation reports... Until then, much head-scratching and sadness for all the victims and their families. RIP
@ellicel
@ellicel 7 күн бұрын
The one comfort to be found in the tragic aftermath of these horrific crashes is how the industry learns and evolves so that future lives can be spared. If the investigation into today's incident reveals that the manufacturer hasn't done enough to safeguard the planes and the regulatory agencies haven't done enough to ensure compliance with previous findings, if essentially it's just the same thing over again that would be so heartbreaking. If the lessons learned at the cost of precious lives lost were ignored, there should be outrage.
@GoianoAmazonia
@GoianoAmazonia 6 күн бұрын
I'm here just after the Voepass flight 2283, an ATR-72 that went into a tailspin and crashed after entering an area of severe icing in 2024. The young captain was working in his day-off as well.
@PaladinStem
@PaladinStem 6 күн бұрын
This was a very informative video to find after seeing the Brazilian plane crash that just happened.
@JoeyFlyBoy
@JoeyFlyBoy 6 күн бұрын
Whos here because of an ATR 72 crash in brazil
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan 10 ай бұрын
The latest, longer videos turned out to be amazing...really hyped for the next episodes! The supercooled water explanation was *super* interesting. I didn't even know about that phenomenon.
@NiekEdeling
@NiekEdeling 9 ай бұрын
supercool.. how cool a phenomenon! I was with my camper in Switserland /Swiss and it was freezing cold. When I took my ten liter watercontainer out to make a cup of coffee, the water still was fluid. The moment I put the container on the ground... in a flash the ten liters froze to one big block of ice! Incredible (for me at that moment); now I understand :-)
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 10 ай бұрын
A very common arrangement in Europe too.I flew from Helsinki to Marieheim in the Aland archipelago and on the surface it looked like a Fin Air plane but once aboard the crew uniform and safety cards revealed I was actually on an Estonian airline called,if I remember correctly, Nordica.British Airways had loads of these sub airways running feeder and local European services for them; City Jet, Logan Air,GB Airways to name but a few.The planes were all painted up to look like BA owned them.
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 10 ай бұрын
We’ve got one in Scotland like that, Logan Air normally runs the regional routes like the Outer Hebrides islands to mainland Scotland, and Orkney/Shetland flights to/from mainland, but one of the sub flights is London/Newcastle to Inverness/Aberdeen/Glasgow/Edinburgh by British Airways, Logan Air can only do a few of these per week but British Airways can do the flights from Newcastle and London every day, several times a day, so our smaller Scottish national flight provider (and the only Scottish flight provider) is actually able to fulfil the flight needs of us Scots! Nice to see Logan Air get a mention, we’re a small country so it’s nice to see them get mentioned!!
@nonniperkl6273
@nonniperkl6273 6 ай бұрын
Have to say to hearing you national airliner dropped about planes that have these war survived the cold here was bit unsettling. Have flown these bad boys many times
@celerychild6161
@celerychild6161 9 ай бұрын
I love how excited Chloe is about the cool science behind nucleation, because it is honestly so interesting
@kayinoue2497
@kayinoue2497 10 ай бұрын
PHENOMENAL video, Chloe! This is one of those watershed air accidents that completely changed air safety in the US. Very well done. And good luck with surgery at the end of the year~! Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.
@neillp3827
@neillp3827 10 ай бұрын
What surgery, is something being lopped off.
@ramonmoreno8014
@ramonmoreno8014 10 ай бұрын
yer mom @@neillp3827
@L1zPl4y
@L1zPl4y 10 ай бұрын
Hey Chloe, just wanted to say that I love your calm narration style and research/production quality - they should let you take over as producer of the "ACI"/"Mayday" TV show as well at this point :D
@stephanie8560
@stephanie8560 10 ай бұрын
This video combines many of my favorite things: aircraft investigation, meteorology, copious and tasteful use of the color blue, and my favorite weather lady. Keep up the good work! Also: this channel is the only one I can watch in bed with my headphones off when my husband's sleeping, as he finds the creator's voice soothing and says it helps him sleep.
@makaveli8979
@makaveli8979 6 күн бұрын
Your research is breathtaking. I believe this issue made the current incident in Brazil where 62 souls were lost. Thank you for the video and may God bless both victims and their families
@supershadowman6478
@supershadowman6478 10 ай бұрын
I must say I'm always very impressed when you do your videos and the weather parts just make me smile I've never flown on the plane but after watching your videos it has really really put a lot of anxiety at ease And helped me understand how much really does go into aviation and I must thank you😊
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@On-Our-Radar-24News
@On-Our-Radar-24News 10 ай бұрын
Great breakdown! This accident changed a lot. I live not far from Roselawn and have visted the accident site. Its very eerie.
@WilsonKwong83
@WilsonKwong83 7 күн бұрын
Same exact thing happened earlier today in Sao Paolo. RIP to all the victims. Icing is no joke.
@XenoDonut
@XenoDonut 10 ай бұрын
Another great video! Chloe's voice is always so soothing too :)
@CrackerSmith
@CrackerSmith 10 ай бұрын
Correct, fallen asleep to her voice a lot. LOL :D
@ZX-mg5xs
@ZX-mg5xs 5 күн бұрын
Back after the Voepass flight, seems like they still havent heeded the warning in 2024!
@jennywright8883
@jennywright8883 10 ай бұрын
Chloe, off topic but...I could listen to you speak for hours! (And I have because I have binged your channel for months). Your research never ceases to amaze. Thank you.😊🛫
@PauperJ
@PauperJ 10 ай бұрын
It's so nice that your local tv station's meteorologist helped you in the production of this video. Thank you DBTV!
@bertrandthomasflylover2306
@bertrandthomasflylover2306 10 ай бұрын
As a fan of aviation since I can't remember, and today an Ultra Light/Lsa pilot I've been interested in airplanes accident analysis. Not for obscure reasons, but for the knowledge and lessons to be learned by any pilot who wants to live a long life! First it started on tv documentaries, then YT arrived and today there's a certain amount of Tubers treating of this matter. Some are good, some aren't. Well I just discovered yours and I'm really impressed by the quality and accuracy of your production wich I place among the best I've seen. I'm french and I was delited by your pure English accent and your great diction, I laughed with the weather presentation, which was very detailed by the way. GOOD JOB, I've now plenty of others to watch !
@patriciatreslove4449
@patriciatreslove4449 Ай бұрын
I am just amazed at how much content and detail your videos contain, you should have millions of subscribers given the quality of your channel, this is one channel I have to support.
@HostNayner
@HostNayner 10 ай бұрын
A bit late watching this, BUT, another AMAZING breakdown of this accident!!! Thank you so much again. You do a spectacular job and deserve many more views!
@muirgenmonet
@muirgenmonet 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the video Chloe! I loved your weather report- you did a fantastic job breaking down the science and making it entertaining and informative. I also want to laud the American Eagle pilots like Stephen who acted as whistleblowers, even to the point of handing out leaflets at the airport and standing up to management.
@LuchinoBruttomesso
@LuchinoBruttomesso 10 ай бұрын
These videos are becoming documentaries now,great job keeping this up
@BigWhoopZH
@BigWhoopZH 10 ай бұрын
Now I know what's on TV tonight. Thanks for the great effort you put in your videos. Top notch!
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Thank You, Much appreciated!
@sasquatchkiddo3720
@sasquatchkiddo3720 10 ай бұрын
I didn't even watch it yet but i just have to express my excitement at there being a 50 minutes video AAAAAAAA YES ETA: Chloe weather reports are also becoming one of my new favorite things and that blue is awesome
@skyservenews7605
@skyservenews7605 10 ай бұрын
I enjoy your videos as they are top of the line of all of those description videos that are out there on KZbin also I have been a flight attendant for 25 years. Retired now I enjoy your presentation very much as it’s very inclusive of all of the videos that are out there. You are one of the best presenters I have heard and seen. Keep it up!😅
@trishayamada807
@trishayamada807 10 ай бұрын
I used to fly frequently on these American eagle Atrs Chicago/Milwaukee. I had some frightful flights on them. I remember once in a heavy snow I was sure we were going to go off the runway. We did get airborne and to our destination, but everyone was rattled. I was so happy when they stopped using them.
@bibblybobbly9951
@bibblybobbly9951 10 ай бұрын
Always great to see weather correspondent Elanor MacCloud 💙
@codymiller4771
@codymiller4771 10 ай бұрын
Hello from Boston!! Watched a video of yours few weeks ago, immediately addicted!! Your voice, the way you break down everything, such fun, interesting videos. Cant get enough!! Keep up the amazing work, as I await your next vid ❤
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching :)
@nancyleehampton8
@nancyleehampton8 10 ай бұрын
@disasterbreakdown Your health is always number one - videos can always wait. Please don’t let anyone pressure you or cause you to feel you’re letting viewers down. Get the rest you need in the beginning or it will be a longer road to recovery (and I have zero medical expertise - just a “fan”)💕💕
@timeandnourishment1961
@timeandnourishment1961 10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video, Chloe. The weather report brightens an otherwise dismal story. Thanks very much! ❤
@adamwaters5016
@adamwaters5016 10 ай бұрын
Chloe, You have been on fire. I really enjoyed your meteorology and thermal dynamics lesson. I am so proud of you. You have really been great at coming out and being comfortable with yourself and abilities. You are amazing on camera. Keep up that amazing work. You are the highlight of my week and I am so grateful to have been with you on this channel and watching your grow from the ground floor. Its so awesome to be a small part of it. You have some serious talent. I could see you working for the BBC or major networks and doing research.
@rilmar2137
@rilmar2137 10 ай бұрын
I reaally love the weather report segments, keep up the good work, Chloe!
@stuarthumphrey1787
@stuarthumphrey1787 10 ай бұрын
Another fantastic episode. Really enjoyed the weather report as it helps understand what went on. Can't wait to see the next video😊
@SunsetLynxx
@SunsetLynxx 10 ай бұрын
I love these longer videos. And I love! The weather report you do. Also that blue lipstick is amazing bright goes perfectly with your dress. Keep up the great videos. I’m always looking forward to a new one.
@nepumukgaming5797
@nepumukgaming5797 8 ай бұрын
This has got to be the best Aviation Channel on KZbin right now!
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 6 ай бұрын
Nah
@angela20377
@angela20377 10 ай бұрын
I usually watch videos at 125% or 150% speed but you have such a soothing cadence and delivery that I just enjoy your videos on normal speed. Much love and another great video! ETA: yaaaaaas! another weather report!
@Tiger-Baby
@Tiger-Baby 10 ай бұрын
Forgive any typos as I'm partially blind due to facial injuries right now, I was lucky enough to catch sight of you before it started though. I'm so please when creators pop out from behind the narration and we get to see then. So, hello! Keep the little cut-ons coming. Listening is all I get to do lately. Gone further I get my sight back soon. ❤
@Aldairion
@Aldairion 10 ай бұрын
Yet another excellent documentary! Big fan of the weather segment, and I especially appreciate the airflow animations. I've actually flown on an ATR-72 several times in India, most recently this past April. I've always liked how they look and enjoyed the experience of being on a modern turboprop.
@federicoprice2687
@federicoprice2687 4 ай бұрын
Chloe, I'm still catching up with your videos and only just watched this one - which confirms my view that your output ranks at 5* level in terms of the quality of research, detail, logic, presentation, narration, balance, tact and respect and visual support. Truly excellent in every respect, and therefore textbook level in terms of teaching lessons learned - in no small way helping us all to understand the minutiae and intricacies of aviation, and the great efforts that must continue to be made in improving safety. Brilliant video, once again, for which many thanks.
@dmich108
@dmich108 7 ай бұрын
Hi Chloe Wanted to drop a line to let you know how terrific, informative and fascinating your videos are. All your hard work produces great results. Thank you so much. Dee 🎉
@jackiehoward7300
@jackiehoward7300 10 ай бұрын
Hi Chloe. I really enjoyed your video. You always do such an awesome job with your video production. I enjoy watching you so much . Hope all goes well with your surgery.
@chrisescobar4199
@chrisescobar4199 10 ай бұрын
I've been watching your videos for quite a while now and this is my first time commenting. Just wanted to say your channel is one of my top favorites. The depth you go into the explanations of these crashes is remarkable. Your ability to really capture peoples minds is incredible. Thanks for doing what you do Chloe, Ill be watching. 😊
@dp92492
@dp92492 10 ай бұрын
I dont care how many times ive seen shows about this tragic accident, you better believe im watching every minute of a Disaster Breakdown episode.
@jocimarbarbosa
@jocimarbarbosa 7 күн бұрын
Yesterday another atr 72 crashes, in Vinhedo - Brazil, the pilots reports ice on wings before the crash
@JPduclerc
@JPduclerc 7 күн бұрын
Liar. The flight's transcript has yet to be released.
@miguelsilveira6803
@miguelsilveira6803 7 күн бұрын
@@JPduclercNot actually lying, just messing up information. There were pilots who flew that same route the same day who reported icing, just not the ones who crashed (bc we don’t have the CVR yet)
@Oznej
@Oznej 10 ай бұрын
Splendid video as always, Chloe! Very interesting and quite frightening subject. I really appreciate the level of detail and thoroughness of your research, and the quality of your videos are becoming so professional. Best of luck for January! Also - that eye makeup is on point!
@AstraSystem
@AstraSystem 10 ай бұрын
I love the info about weather that you've been including in your videos. Stumbled across your channel a couple of weeks ago and have been binging videos. You cover a lot of accidents that I haven't heard of before!
@merlindsbest
@merlindsbest 9 ай бұрын
Ma'am, I just wanted to say I've always appreciated the depth to which you explore these incidents. Your tone, delivery and thoughtfullness make these videos a pleasure to watch. I'm glad you've become more comfortable in front of the camera as well. Best of luck with your upcoming surgery.
@localmenace3043
@localmenace3043 10 ай бұрын
Whoa, this was _extra_ large! I like it! Good work as always - I appreciated the explanation behind the icing!
@youregonnaattackthem
@youregonnaattackthem 10 ай бұрын
This channel is so so so good. A perfect example of the best of what the Internet can be.
@sydneywhittington9563
@sydneywhittington9563 10 ай бұрын
yessss weather chloe is back! i also dont mind waiting for these longer videos. outstanding work, please keep it up!! this is my favorite channel!
@johnmichaelrichards
@johnmichaelrichards 10 ай бұрын
Another excellent documentary, Chloe. Thank you. Love the reappearance of the DB weather girl.
@8LJ8
@8LJ8 8 күн бұрын
Here after the tragic crash of ATR 72 in Brazil, flight number 2Z2283. It could be the same reason to crash as it happened to American Eagle. Did they put any new better system on ATR for de-icing since 1994?
@BirdieRumia
@BirdieRumia 8 күн бұрын
According to Wikipedia, yes, but possibly not enough. They made the de-icing boots bigger but they're still not very big, for example...
@debbiekerr3989
@debbiekerr3989 10 ай бұрын
I just found your channel it was in my feed and I watched 3 videos. These are some of the very best investigations I have ever seen! I subscribed because of how detailed the information is.
@lisastaven494
@lisastaven494 10 ай бұрын
I learn so much from you. Love it when you do a weather report. Well done, thank you for all the great work. ❤
@clarino2
@clarino2 7 күн бұрын
The explanation in this video of aileron reversal is quite good, surprising and very scary.
@craigstinchcomb5260
@craigstinchcomb5260 7 ай бұрын
Excellent research!! Beautiful Job of complete coverage as to "How", "Why" and the science / mechanics of why the disaster occured. When Roselawn occured, my student's and I did a reenactment computer simulation with 3D Studio Max. Data directly from the FDR and NTSB data report gave us exact positions, plane attitude, control surface positions and speed info.. We then overlaid (with Adobe Premiere) the CVR. The result (with multiple cam positions) was an actual ride and accurate views of the tragedy.
@mohwybar5832
@mohwybar5832 7 күн бұрын
Well, it happened again
@LemonLadyRecords
@LemonLadyRecords 10 ай бұрын
Ty for this fascinating and educational doc! It helped me put possible things together for a GA icing crash that killed 4 of my family members, although who knows, and they weren't in a holding pattern. Anyway, it was said that they hit a "sudden" blizzard on approach to an extremely high ski resort in Colorado, at night, in winter. I lived in the Colo mtns and there's no "sudden" blizzards. But they could have flown into sudden supercooled large droplets, having already made the terrible decision to fly into a storm, at night, in the mountains. The crash was witnessed and the plane tumbled down the entire runway, so they could have passed through the droplets on descent, and then had no way to control for the wind on landing, or w/e. Regardless, the pilot, my cousin, stacked the Swiss cheese model that night, with no room for any issues. I wish I knew more about my cousins' crash, as I got the news 3rd hand, from my mom, who was not the most accurate storyteller. People (the media) were very suspicious of the supercooled droplet thing, when the AE 4184 report came out. So it wouldn't have even been on the radar for my cousin's crash, plus a GA accident wouldn't have had the investigation of a newsworthy commercial flight. I knew little about aviation in 1978, and time has scrambled the details as I heard them. Too many have lost their lives to icing. Flying in bad winter weather made me very anxious ever after, and I avoided GA and commuters, esp after the AE crash. My cousins' crash caused fear that kept me from becoming a pilot later on, when I developed a real love of flying and interest in aviation. Too bad I didn't know all the things about aviation I know now, tks to great aviation channels like this, back when becoming a pilot was still possible.
@lithobiusforficatus
@lithobiusforficatus 6 ай бұрын
Thank You! I admire Your work and Yourself as a person ❤ Looking forward to the coming publications. Take care!
@CCCW
@CCCW 7 күн бұрын
Wonder if we just saw a repeat of this in PS-VPB
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 6 күн бұрын
It seems closer to the Aerocaribbean crash in Cuba in terms on the manner it crashed (spun to the ground)
@juliusnepos6013
@juliusnepos6013 6 күн бұрын
But yeah same cause
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