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@greetingspuppet.198
@greetingspuppet.198 3 ай бұрын
People in general associate AI art/thumbnail with laziness and lack of creativity, this kind of stuff. And also I didn't know how much work is needed for an AI thumbnail. But after all I think the people who unsubscribed overreacted a lot, because we know the effort you put in your videos and you telling us your personal stories gives the feeling that we're more close to you and we're your trusty sidekicks
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
Only losers associate it with that because they're too ignorant to look into it so they ironically steal the opinion of toxic drama youtubers who spew their venom
@RoundShades
@RoundShades 3 ай бұрын
Really people who will fight anyone in any place over ai art, are incredibly niche topic people. I know of one, they're not bad, but AI art isn't a damning topic, they just associate it with people who get around having any real art or artists, and they're an artist. Some people use it for intentionally uncanny horror game assets, some people use it for placeholder or parody/nonprofit assets. If they aren't actively trying to skirt around artist involvement, it's no big deal.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@RoundShades exactly. Their problem isn't AI. They just want to blame it as an easy target because they don't know what they want to hate. It's sad honestly
@MrBelles104
@MrBelles104 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem with AI art is that it always has some style around it that makes it stand out. The uncanny valley-esque feeling that the thumbnail's creative process is not understood while other thumbnails can be looked at and see how the creator managed to produce them. Granted, I haven't seen the original thumbnail, so I don't know what it looked like.
@SJB2
@SJB2 3 ай бұрын
I shoulda built it into the video but alas I suck too much for that.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
​@@SJB2you can always put it in the next one! ;D
@nguyentrananhnguyen7900
@nguyentrananhnguyen7900 3 ай бұрын
that is because of the prompt i think popping color attracting more people and AI make it that way because of all the statistic it have if you want a certain "style", you have to instruct it that way instead of let the AI do everything on its own
@gabrielrippel5675
@gabrielrippel5675 3 ай бұрын
​@@SJB2A huge problem (the reason I & many others have a problem with it) is that AI art generators need a TON of reference photos. These photos aren't taken voluntarily - they're just scraped off the internet, without the artists' consent. This makes a lot of artists feel that companies like OpenAI are stealing their work in order to replace them. And it is! From Disney to Hasbro (allegedly), corporations are already using AI art to avoid paying real artists. There's such a strong negative stigma around AI art that you'll always get flak for using it, in addition to the style being bland and boring.
@gabrielrippel5675
@gabrielrippel5675 3 ай бұрын
Beyond that, there's always something so cold and corporate about AI art that makes it feel... wrong. It doesn't match the vibe of you or your channel at all.
@Nodn4rb4
@Nodn4rb4 3 ай бұрын
You can break segments of the walls using the caves in the two corners. Makes it slightly easier for early game.
@ParagonQuille
@ParagonQuille 3 ай бұрын
*opening the game to test this* Edit: Fascinating, it does work. it opens the cracked portions closest to the center then radiates out for 250, 500, 750, and finally 1000. very neat trick
@jackinreallife
@jackinreallife 3 ай бұрын
Personally I don't really care about the AI usage, but I think your drawn thumbnails are great and I'd rather see that then an AI picture
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@snapslingpeavine1371 bro you have issues lol
@jhosioja
@jhosioja 3 ай бұрын
I think there's no one reason, but rather this gut feeling that emerges from several aspects, which include not liking the look of generated content due to the uncanny valley, the fear that it will eventually become undetectable and as a result, the thought that you'll always be guessing if you're watching the products of a creator or an alg, the fact that the dataset that the statistical model uses was in a lot of cases taken without consent and that the people that unknowingly contributed to the dataset will lose opportunities because it was taken by large language models and other statistical generators.
@drippyjowo
@drippyjowo 3 ай бұрын
GATORS DRIVING LIMOOOOOS 🗣🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@SHHDADDYSWORKN
@SHHDADDYSWORKN 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure range does affect heli pilots, you just don't get a visual indicator on the helicopter itself.
@Gavin-yc2rl
@Gavin-yc2rl 3 ай бұрын
I think the problem with ai is that it just takes images that other people have made and uses that to make the images
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. That isn't how AI works. But even if it was how it works, that still isn't a problem. Lol
@Scathed1
@Scathed1 3 ай бұрын
SJB, yeah, as someone else said, you can click the caves to open up part of the walls close to the center. 4 times each, I believe.
@enriquegarcia7207
@enriquegarcia7207 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video as always!
@MagnusTB_
@MagnusTB_ 3 ай бұрын
for me it's the iffy datasets used for learning taken without consent, in a way those ais are just copying a TON of other people's hard work to generate income
@cliftonwong5188
@cliftonwong5188 3 ай бұрын
Ngl i love watching your content partly because of your off topic stories, makes me feel like im talking to a friend :)
@grimreaper1542
@grimreaper1542 3 ай бұрын
Apache is actually really good with Striker because of the black popping
@steveolsted6378
@steveolsted6378 3 ай бұрын
There will be good and bad uses but this is going to ramp up fast. I think it's inevitable acting will ultimately be impacted.
@hudsonmaumill3552
@hudsonmaumill3552 3 ай бұрын
I liked the story and I don’t have any beef with AI good job I love your personality
@boots160_
@boots160_ 3 ай бұрын
I think razor rotors attack uses up alch buff super quick as well
@snapslingpeavine1371
@snapslingpeavine1371 3 ай бұрын
Bro I absolutely love taking baths, I can relate.
@derbabo8455
@derbabo8455 3 ай бұрын
Heli Pilot chimps++ incident
@irondave2496
@irondave2496 3 ай бұрын
Dang I loved watching sAJB’s insane strategy of using Comanche commander, Apache prime, and striker jones to pop that camo purple bloon (that’s what the thumbnail was)
@Not_black_imposter
@Not_black_imposter 3 ай бұрын
Another W from striker jones HECKYEAH
@bournapoxx2719
@bournapoxx2719 3 ай бұрын
No one should ever unsubscribe to SJB😢
@antoniomercado621
@antoniomercado621 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos, I watch you every night
@howlingbeast3x6
@howlingbeast3x6 3 ай бұрын
There is a lot of misunderstandings about AI. The arrival of AI is very much like the arrival of photography. People panicked because anybody could take pictures and painters would lose out, but artists and painters are still here. It will be the same for AI. Lots of people think that AI steals art from artists, but thats not true. AI have learning algorithms and they study a multitude of art to create their own. Its very similar to how humans base their art on what they learned, and eventually create their own.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 3 ай бұрын
22:00 Actually with level 19 Striker Apache prime is a LOT better vs DDTs as the 17 damage missiles actually do damage against them as he overrides the explosive damage
@mk20130470
@mk20130470 3 ай бұрын
People are more concerned with individual jobs being lost than they are all the added production ai will bring to the world. Also, sadly there are more people that want the mind numbing jobs that ai will replace than want the Technical jobs that are made easier but not completely replaced. People being selfish and lazy is usually the motivation of the general public
@MeOne2Three4
@MeOne2Three4 3 ай бұрын
Well said
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who rejects AI is more than selfish, they're sick and deserve to be punished.
@verlegenemandarine
@verlegenemandarine 3 ай бұрын
SJB the goat
@Karizmatyc
@Karizmatyc 3 ай бұрын
Baths are pretty pogchamp
@raksaKhan1337
@raksaKhan1337 3 ай бұрын
if you buy MIB round 99 will be easy all Comanche Commander attack cannot pop DDT
@JhuanVSales
@JhuanVSales 3 ай бұрын
AI generated content is based on big amounts of data from all over the internet with art from ppl who didn't agree with it being used. It's not about "stealing the money from an artist" it's a form of stealing the art.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
That isn't how AI works, that's a fundamental misunderstanding. Nothing is "stolen"
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@howneatisthat what do you even mean "feel good" about using it? I never implied either way lol. It's just a weird inclusion? If you think the AI is stealing others work, are you also one of the people claiming AI art looks souless (as if that actually means anything besides being a nonsensical subjective insult lashing out at AI in the first place) because if so, I'd consider that far more disrespectful to the artists than 'stealing' their art without consent
@edgemaestro1777
@edgemaestro1777 3 ай бұрын
tell me you don't know about how AI works without tell me you don't know about how AI works if it's your argument that AI is art stealing because it looked at millions of images to learn what drawing is, then every single artist in the world is also stealing it because that's how humans learn, they look at the things that's already been made and learn from it
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@edgemaestro1777exactly. neural networks LITERALLY function In the same way brains work, these people just want to be ignorant
@gigyro
@gigyro 3 ай бұрын
@@howneatisthatI honestly don’t think that should be considered stealing at all. As long as the art can be legally viewed without a paywall, I think it’s fair use to train AI on it.
@Sikment
@Sikment 3 ай бұрын
SJB what's your favorite band if you have one?
@cortez4247
@cortez4247 3 ай бұрын
25:20 M.I.B for Comanche PLEASE!
@LucasFreire-no8sf
@LucasFreire-no8sf 3 ай бұрын
sjb if a comment just says "i will be unsubscring just because the thumbnail is ai" let those people yell at a wall they are arent worth listening unless theres a bug on the video, i saw your old title and thumbnail and it is pretty damn cool
@botskills3668
@botskills3668 2 ай бұрын
Ai is the future of humanity. People just think its lazy sometimes.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 2 ай бұрын
wrong people
@GlitteringSnow
@GlitteringSnow 3 ай бұрын
For me, i have nothing big against AI. it has helped in places and that's great. But those who use AI for art got no support from me, cuz it takes jobs away from actual Artists. And it has been known, that many AI Data bases used art to trace/learn from, without permission. You can literally ask it to make an artpeice from an artist, say it to copy its style, and it'll do so. After a few tries/Redo's, and you'll have an AI generated picture, copying an artist's style without permission. (It dosent help that with the whole Actors strike was against companies copyrighting their voices to use AI instead of paying the actors and do cheapscape there-) That's, just my take and others can take it differently.
@cartezoneal8283
@cartezoneal8283 3 ай бұрын
I love SJB channel more than any other bloonstuber. Concerning AI it seems as if we humans could become obsolete. Do we even have a purpose AI can’t someday do better than us humans? I honestly don’t care. I support humans all the way.
@CircumlunarFeasibility
@CircumlunarFeasibility 3 ай бұрын
you do realize that you can remove segments of the walls right?
@trepidati0n533
@trepidati0n533 3 ай бұрын
AI does not exist. The machine can't explain why it did what it did. So what we actually have is "machine learning". The problem with machine learning is that it is now eating its own content. This will force a regression to the mean which means eventually you have something that is just "average". Thus, without NEW information it can't get better. Furthermore, since you know it is making anything new but using already existing data, it is very possible for people to pollute the data pool. This means, people can make ill informed decisions thinking that what they are being told is correct and they have zero ability to know if it is right or wrong.
@averyhaferman3474
@averyhaferman3474 3 ай бұрын
Ai is a code that mimics humans. It looks exactly like it's mimicking humans. It's ai. Quit being a moron
@SJB2
@SJB2 3 ай бұрын
Fair enough. I think it's easy just to use the buzz term AI as an over encompassing term for anything made by computers.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
Not only would the AI not regress, or be "forced" To...? It is constantly receiving new input. Anyone can train an AI anytime. It's completely ethical and legal.
@trepidati0n533
@trepidati0n533 3 ай бұрын
​@@Sweetdude64​Sounds like a response from somebody who thought NFT's were a good idea.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@trepidati0n533 I'm sorry you THINK that. I hope you get in control of your FEELINGS so you don't rely on what things incorrectly SOUND like to you :)
@kaxdyssecondaccount8057
@kaxdyssecondaccount8057 3 ай бұрын
So the reason you survived round 97 was because Commache Commander Usually destroys DDTs
@user-ei5ec1me9r
@user-ei5ec1me9r 3 ай бұрын
SJB, imagine I decide to start a KZbin channel for BTD6 using AI. I need to teach the AI how to play BT6, so I use your videos, and others, to teach it how to play. Then I monetize those videos. I'm profiting off of your work without your consent. That's what AI does to artists. You could also look at it like this, if I made a react channel and used your videos to react to and monetized that, you've done the work for me. All I have to do is comment over it. That's what being an AI artist is like. I don't hate you or judge you for using AI to create a thumbnail, but you should definitely research what AI is doing to people and how it affects them. You're right, AI will be a part of the future. That's why we have to jump on fair legislation now before we can't do anything about it.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
You have the right to put in your own work to train your own AI. You put in the effort and got the intended result. Nothing wrong with that. SJB isn't affected in your scenario. In fact, he doesn't even know, so it doesn't matter regardless.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
You need to form your own opinion on react content instead of parroting drama youtubers. If you react to a video, that is doing work.
@jamescomstock7299
@jamescomstock7299 3 ай бұрын
I think this betrays a common misconception about how stable diffusion and similar generational AI works. It seems like there is an expectation that the original art piece is stored and can be regurgitated in its original form by these tools. That belief is incorrect. Trained AI cannot recreated with perfect accuracy the art they were trained on. That art literally does not exist in the model, and a perfect plagerized copy of a work of art is pretty much statistcally impossible for any image over 50 or 60 pixels. Therefore, comparing the output to a reaction video is at best misleading... The original source doesn't exist anymore... A better comparison might be if someone could make a similar video but could make it difficult to tell it wasn't created by SJB and just published on a different channel. But it would still be different, but in a very similar style.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@jamescomstock7299 you're absolutely correct. These ignorant weirdos want to blindly spread hate because they want to hate AI even under false beliefs.
@Exiplays-sl7kf
@Exiplays-sl7kf 3 ай бұрын
Gamer Approved 👍
@Marv1N1234
@Marv1N1234 3 ай бұрын
You can tear down the walls👍
@lukeprior2093
@lukeprior2093 3 ай бұрын
Ver hard to get over
@TrueChaoSclx
@TrueChaoSclx 3 ай бұрын
People have a really kneejerk hate reaction to AI. Half of it is because of a fundamental misunderstanding of how AI works, imo, and a lot of those takes come straight off reddit and twitter. Another thing is that a lot of AI pictures frankly suck - and that's what most people are exposed to. Using AI well, a lot of people literally do not even recognize that AI has been used. It's a tool, like any other. I've been working with it for three months and it's taken me a lot of effort to get my stuff to a generally good place, and even then a single high quality picture can take hours, and requires work in other programs. Can't really share any of it here though lol
@cameronlentz3586
@cameronlentz3586 3 ай бұрын
I do enjoy your thumb nails.
@pontusolssonPrivat
@pontusolssonPrivat 3 ай бұрын
Juv u chris❤
@vicky20xx
@vicky20xx 3 ай бұрын
An internet rando's two cents on the topic: (What people usually call) AI is very risky to use in front of audiences because a lot of generative models are made to scrape/collect data from all sorts of random sources with uncomfortable frequency and mash what it knows together into something that fits the prompt with variable accuracy, which frequently results in things that, to a lot of people, 'don't look/seem quite right'/are uncanny so to speak and make them feel like there wasn't any 'soul' in what was made [and I kind of agree]. With recent developments like OpenAI's Sora, which is a text-to-video model that can make highly realistic-looking scenarios, those audiences are [pretty rightfully, in my opinion] afraid that the future will be ripe with AI-borne misinformation if generative AI efforts are not heavily regulated or shut down. So that's basically why a lot of people, me included, are against AI. Regardless, though, I'm still subscribed, still love your videos and enjoy when you talk about miscellaneous topics in them, regardless of what they are.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
That's a misunderstanding, AI can't Frankenstein art together. That's just not how it works at all
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
That was a year ago, or more. AI has ENTIRELY evolved since then. Have you seen how much it has improved? It's a phenomenal tool that everyone needs to integrate into their workflow for quality, and quantity. That's efficiency and ADDS soul.
@derbabo8455
@derbabo8455 3 ай бұрын
I dont mind AI in textform and i think its fun to mess around with pictures but its just such a contrast to ur thumbnails it feels wrong
@louislalonde3221
@louislalonde3221 3 ай бұрын
I didn't know people judged videos and KZbinrs by their thumbnails so much... maybe I've been on this site for too long
@mrtbts
@mrtbts 3 ай бұрын
i don’t really mind ai art but if someone overused it and milk it to death for money then that’s not okay with me also it’s literally not the users fault that the ai is stealing from creators those ai companies could just pay the artist (cus they probably made enough money from there ai anyway) and then all is good
@lordblobfish1411
@lordblobfish1411 3 ай бұрын
Um, excuse me, I'm a CROCODILE, thanks.
@telatomodosh7410
@telatomodosh7410 3 ай бұрын
I think it's cool
@delinquent3574
@delinquent3574 3 ай бұрын
WHO NAKED?!
@marliseburgi8581
@marliseburgi8581 3 ай бұрын
7:05 peirce does matter also size does too so if it is not at least 7 inches then it sucks and your girl will never want it
@garretthastey9656
@garretthastey9656 3 ай бұрын
if you want all the context on why people are so against AI there is a video called The AI Revolution is Rotten to the Core that goes into detail on all the morally questionable things and practices that have gone into the creation and upkeep of AI
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
Why would anyone care to watch such biased slop? It's just a hate piece. They cam take their slander and shove it up their ●
@thenoobd1632
@thenoobd1632 3 ай бұрын
Don't worry SJB, I think we're all tired of playing Clash Royale ( I hit Champion 1 with a homemade royal giant evo deck a few seasons ago and now I'm done with the game)
@Monstrodopantano895
@Monstrodopantano895 3 ай бұрын
🐶
@PlaneCereal
@PlaneCereal 3 ай бұрын
I think the whole ai thing is either seen as uncanny or just outright seen as lazy
@32glxcks
@32glxcks 2 ай бұрын
Archmage be like :
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 3 ай бұрын
Vast majority of machine learning art programs are trained on stolen art.
@PIG-productions
@PIG-productions 3 ай бұрын
hey
@jacobthekirby
@jacobthekirby 3 ай бұрын
Are you sure it's a picture of a humming bird or is your eyes fooling you? o_O
@ryinglis3303
@ryinglis3303 3 ай бұрын
@SJB AI has become one of those very divisive things. Personally I think both the techbros and the wokies are both delayed. Do what you want, but it won't matter at the end of the day. Both sides are chock full of liars, thieves, and useful idiots. "Just don't bring it up again," is the message they'd like to leave you with. It's an intimidation tactic. Do what you will, I'm not goin' anywhere either way, but I also don't have a lot of money to give you in support either, so, whatever man.
@arthurrinnert8257
@arthurrinnert8257 3 ай бұрын
Excel spreadsheets didn’t take the accountants jobs and neither will ai take artists jobs. People are just scared but it will pass and ai will be another part of the internet.
@AgentLayla526
@AgentLayla526 3 ай бұрын
people rightfully dislike AI art because it takes from artists without permission and pukes it back out - how would you feel if someone took your work, spat a worse version back out and monetised it without giving you a single cent? i think people are justified in unsubscribing to express their distaste for it. to further elaborate, generative AI as a whole lacks important safeguards that prevent people from using it for malicious purposes. there have been numerous cases of people using it for generating explicit content of real people, including minors. obviously not all AI is unethical - AI denoising and upscaling are just some examples i can think of from the top of my head - but until generative AI is properly regulated, i simply cannot encourage people to use it in good faith
@Itsindeedsquashingtime
@Itsindeedsquashingtime 3 ай бұрын
dude I hate my life the biggest pp mode thing is back on the right side of my screen
@mort996
@mort996 3 ай бұрын
People hate AI generally, I don't think it's personal Chris. AI is costing civilization as much as it's helping and many people are losing their jobs because of AI. Takes time and effort to adapt to a new reality and that process, especially in this rapidly developing age, is really painful. Growing pains you know
@andrewdudley1008
@andrewdudley1008 3 ай бұрын
sjb do you watch anime?
@miss-sagemoon
@miss-sagemoon 3 ай бұрын
the reason people hate AI is that it's extremely unethical, image generation is filled with stolen images that were taken without permission to train the AI. It has nothing to do with it being "lazy" and people saying that don't understand the full picture but have good intentions
@miss-sagemoon
@miss-sagemoon 3 ай бұрын
At the moment there is little in regulation on the side of companies developing this technology to require them to be open with how and who they get their data from, so even if they say they're public domain that doesn't mean it's only public domain
@jamescomstock7299
@jamescomstock7299 3 ай бұрын
In a word, the AI drama mostly boils down to fear, in my opinion. While I do agree that there should be protections built into AI tools that prevent users from explicitly copying an artist with prompts like "in the style of", which is explicit plagerism, I haven't seen a convincing argument that explains the difference between regular people looking at and learning from freely available art online, and then subsequently making and selling their own art, and how that is fundamentally different from letting AI create original art that has been trained on the same publically available art but is driven by creative user ideas. I do, however, get the discomfort artists feel. As a coder, AI is making a lot of strides in my field that jeapordize the value of my existing skills, as well. So I'm also concerned about the democratization AI brings to the work in my field by allowing less skilled workers to achieve similar results. In spite of that, I personally look at it as an opportunity to focus more on the big ideas, rather than the execution I have had to focus more on until now, but I would be lying if I said i didn't get a bit uncomfortable wondering if I will be able to reinvent the way I work and leverage the new tools AI provides and if it will result in a hit to my earning power. Overall, I think castigating everyone who uses the technology is an overreaction, though . Whether we like it or not, the cat is out of the bag and AI is here to stay and will change how we a work in many fields. Taking a hard line stance won't make any long term change to the outcome and will instead remove a tool from the arsenal of many existing and aspiring artists. Much better, in my opinion, is to request concessions that protect the work and ideas of individual artists in the places where the original artist can still be consulted, but asking for an outright ban and demonizing those who use the tools is not a viable or fair long term strategy.
@krisokane942
@krisokane942 3 ай бұрын
AI art is frowned upon, not because you're depriving an artist of your business (especially in your case), but because the AI steals art from the internet.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
No it doesn't
@Karizmatyc
@Karizmatyc 3 ай бұрын
@@Sweetdude64yes it does that’s literally how it works
@TheTantor777
@TheTantor777 3 ай бұрын
It really doesn't, yes it learns how to make art through internet and bases its art to that knowledge, but that is exactly the same thing as normal human learning how to make art.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
@@TheTantor777 exactly. Idk why these people are trying to claim how it works when they very clearly blatantly don't understand the technology in the first place lol
@19.99USD
@19.99USD 3 ай бұрын
@@Sweetdude64 thats just disingenuous. Ai art is not "exactly the same" as a human learning art. When a human is inspired by another human's art, they can add their own abstraction to said art. AI has no discretion to do so. What here establishes that people "blatantly don't understand the technology"? that wasn't the root of the ethical argument being made in the comment you replied to.
@warc9caw604
@warc9caw604 3 ай бұрын
Ai can be a useful tool but it can also steal work away from artists while at the same time stealing artists styles and hard work.
@henrylevin3387
@henrylevin3387 3 ай бұрын
I think people are afraid of ai taking over youtube content, channels of ai pretending to be a person playing a game or something
@cheatyhotbeef2636
@cheatyhotbeef2636 3 ай бұрын
ISAB making all his previous videos with an AI voice: This is hilarious and innovative! :D SJB making a thumbnail with an AI helper: >:( grrrr I unsubbed, disliked, and reported for abuse
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
They're all illogical emotional hypocrites. Expect them to make no sense
@malkomalkavian
@malkomalkavian 3 ай бұрын
If you think that artists get grumpy about maths models producing a competing product to theirs for much cheaper than they can, wait for when ai can provide medical or legal advice which is good enough for daily use. People will still make art for art's sake, and healers will still heal, but will there be any lawyers left in twenty years?
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
Good. Let technology be good. There's no issue here!
@freakshoworange
@freakshoworange 3 ай бұрын
Another problem with AI besides your point on stealing money from artists because you are the artist of your thumbnails is that AI is built on looking at already existing images on the internet, meaning if you have a prompt to take specific elements from art styles and thumbnails that artists had not given permission to be used for things like AI, then you are stealing from those artists. Theres always the "you posted it its your fault" argument but thats just mean imo. Also I think more importantly using AI to make thumbnails faster normalizes it in the KZbinr landscape meaning that it's more likely that KZbinrs with channel artists will see AI art being used more on the site and replace their artists with AI, effectively stealing a job.
@TheHandyMan48
@TheHandyMan48 3 ай бұрын
I thought the thumbnail was sick. Am i the only one? 😅
@leantes1828
@leantes1828 3 ай бұрын
As I am aware of, one of the main problem with the use of image generation programs with AI has to do with its sources. AI takes images from artists, gives no retribution at all and use them to generate new ones, while taking away the job of said artists in the process, so it's a big copyright-infringement related topic. No hate tho, good apache action
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
You admit it generates new art, therefore it is not copyright infringement what so ever
@ippanpedrozo1162
@ippanpedrozo1162 3 ай бұрын
people getting mad at generative AI, are the same people who would get mad that washing machines exist vs washing by hand, or cars vs carriages, or photoshop and printers vs oil painting, or coal miners losing their now irrelevant jobs due to technological progress
@elliotbrandt2593
@elliotbrandt2593 3 ай бұрын
AI models are trained on images from across the internet that are taken without consent or compensation from the original artists. OpenAI/Microsoft are profiting by taking artists' work and using it to train their models, and the artists are never compensated. Then (in some cases) those models are used to put artists out of a job. I think AI is an exciting tool that has the potential to do great things, and in some areas like medical research it already is. But the training methods for some popular current AI tools are pretty unethical.
@agathahearth
@agathahearth 3 ай бұрын
And human artist don’t do the same? They don’t take inspiration from their favorite cartoons and animes? They don’t credit all of the various artist throughout history that have inspired them? As a starting point?
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
​@@agathahearthexactly. Their arguments are so disingenuous and toxic its unreal
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
AI literally creates jobs, you're just wrong.
@regiliok
@regiliok 3 ай бұрын
using AI in your thumbnail makes your channel look like its has been replaced by one of those AI youtubers who just pump out mediocre content it in essence probably made it look like you were gonna do the AI cashgrab stuff and a lot of peeps hate that with a passion just keep doing what you have been doing and the bad stuff wil go away again
@Kostte-zp6he
@Kostte-zp6he 3 ай бұрын
its complicated, does ai steal from artist? and the answer is rarely. like if you fill the prompt to make it certain style, yeah there are high chance ai will copy someone work. but most of the time ai will use the most general and common way to draw something (lets be honest, ai art are not the most creative art out there). imagine if someone make another painting with the same style from certain artist, yeah its a copy but is it really stealing? hard to say. its like on the spectrum of good or bad, its whatever, not the best but absolutely not the worst. for me personally, i prefer your creative process on the thumbnail eventhough there are not much effort to make it, then using ai eventhough you still go through the same creative process.
@JoeyMx
@JoeyMx 3 ай бұрын
tbh. I believe it’s just a current social trend to hate ai. Eventually, everyone will be using it. Then, mocking people who don’t know how to make advanced quality thumbnails. 😂
@marcelofelipedecamargo9108
@marcelofelipedecamargo9108 2 ай бұрын
Careful with this matter SJB, you're a great guy and I don't want u cancelled for talking bout AI ;-;
@MikeOxtinks
@MikeOxtinks 3 ай бұрын
Siuuuuu
@craigthenf273
@craigthenf273 3 ай бұрын
Obviously in this scenario i dont think there is really any harm, however i still cant support it the more acceptable ai art is even in this really small case, the less creative we get, and when we lose our creativity we lose our freedom of individualty, just think about it in this case this ai art made you feel the satisfaction of creating something that you diddnt make you might of supervised it but that is not the same thing, and when something artificial lets you feel that way it cant be right nor good, the simplest way to say what i mean is that artificial means fake ai art is fake, fake effort and, fake creativity if it really is inevitable like you say then i am scared because if as humans we volunteer to give up our creativity for convenience then i am frightened to see what else we will give up in name of laziness. I felt like after writing all that i wanted to put out there that i am not calling you lazy and i hope didn't affend you anyway i kinda just took this as chance to put my own feeling on the topic in to words, i really am a big fan so trust me i wont be unsubscribing just felt like making that clear. ❤
@dojando6003
@dojando6003 3 ай бұрын
4 Reasons people hate AI-Art: 1. Stolen Art To train the AI it needs learning data. This is taken from the Internet. Nobody really knows where but a good guess is from basically everywhere. Also from a lot of actual artists who did not give their consent, who were not even asked if their pictures can be used for that. Therefore, a lot of the art generated by AI is made of the fundament of actual artists who never see any credit for their original art. 2. Creativity Also this is the reason AI art is considered.ot creative. Yes you have to tell the AI what you want to see but how it realized your vision is up to the stars really. AI does not consider every brush stroak carefully or make "happy accidents" or thinks about composing a picture. A LOT of creative effort is just nonexistent wit AI-Art. 3. No Money for Artists Staying with artists, the more and easier AI Art is accessible, the less artists get paid to make their own creative artwork. It is already hard enough to get any money from Art, be it digital or physical. Only very few exceptions can make a living out of it. With AI-Art, the little money That goes to the few creative people (often just some nice individuals who want to earn a little bit on the side with their hobby), Is basically "wasted" because someone did not want to spend a bit of money on some creative art but just put a bunch of words into a textbox until there was a good enough end result. Which is a shame because those artists who put a lot of effort to make something creative and amazing will get the feeling of "I am not better than some robot and nobody likes my art as much as to pay a bit for it" even tho it is miles better, more creative and much more work than AI art. And for last 4: Environment Generative AI like ChatGPT and Text to Picture algorithms take a lot of energy for every answer they have to generate. I don't know the numbers but I remember I was shocked to hear how much CO² is already produced because ChatGPT & Co. blew up in the last years. It's crazy and while I think this is does not necessarily mean that those tools are bad, it is still something to consider and to think about when using it. I hope that clarified your confusion aittle bit.
@chicken_person
@chicken_person 3 ай бұрын
I think that the recent developments in machine learning and image/text generation are very interesting. A lot of the image generation stuff is ethically questionable I think when it comes to the way that datasets were built, since they just scraped images without requesting permission. But at the same time, its really interesting, and I screw around with Stable Diffusion on my own home computer and GPU. I just am not comfortable with sharing what I generate, and especially not with claiming it as something I "made." I leave that to my photography. I think that a lot of the talk about image generation having "no soul" is BS though. People who are already convinced they don't like it tend to look at really poorly generated images and use them as the standard for everything "AI" image generation is and ever will be. I've seen stuff that legitimately has good composition, perspective, and color theory. Even if it's just trying to approximate an image based on a prompt, it's starting to be surprisingly decent.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 3 ай бұрын
There's nothing inethical about it. It's progress. It's saving lives and bolstering the community while rapidly advancing our technology and understanding of it which can help us better understand the universe. I would say anyone against AI is being not just inethical, but down right unreasonable. They don't have the right to harm or hold back society to such a tremendous degree
@rothstarr1703
@rothstarr1703 3 ай бұрын
I don’t really care if people use AI in thumbnails. My issues with AI are larger scale problems like deepfake p*rn, political mis and disinformation, books/tv/movies/music, and stock market manipulation. Edit: but I do think AI generated content should be required to be labeled as AI generated
@womp6338
@womp6338 3 ай бұрын
I don't like ai stuff because there is so much low quality ai content online
@Astryca
@Astryca 3 ай бұрын
I think people dislike ai because most ai art software use illustrations by artists without their consent in their database. I work as an illustrator myself, and it's a decent tool to just quickly get something visualized, but I'd feel bad for using it in my monetaized work. Though I guess ai art can kinda be compared to sampling in music, or referencing in literature. One thing I accept as a content creator on other platforms is that when I put something out on the internet, I willingly lose some agency over it, because people edit my stuff all the time, and now they do it even more
@edgemaestro1777
@edgemaestro1777 3 ай бұрын
people are stupid, don't think about it, if they unsub because you used AI, then it's good, you have just filtered out the dumb ones
@drippyjowo
@drippyjowo 3 ай бұрын
Chris, I don't think we care THAT MUCH about AI thumbnails I actually saw it, and I really liked it So if you want to, you could most certainly keep using those! 😊
@MultiBoxingKid
@MultiBoxingKid 3 ай бұрын
A lot of people despise it, he just has to know that a lot of people will not like those AI thumbnails. I personally don’t care if he uses AI, let him do what he wants.
@ZEtoKLEAN
@ZEtoKLEAN 3 ай бұрын
reply?
@allwynsjourney2225
@allwynsjourney2225 3 ай бұрын
34 min ago and kinda early
@sleepycCh
@sleepycCh 3 ай бұрын
Just to be clear Chris, you are not the artist when you are using AI. All the people who made the source material for the AI generating the art who may or may not have consented to their work being used are artists. Unless of course you only fed the AI your own original material. And really the only way you could prove it is showcase yourself generating your thumbnails
@floren8642
@floren8642 3 ай бұрын
AI "art" steals data from real artists who did NOT agree to it being used, the reason it's hated is not only because it steals jobs from real artists, it's also because it's a form of stealing art from people who actually put in the effort to learn art, i really hope you won't use AI "art" after all that
@kanderson9396
@kanderson9396 3 ай бұрын
The issue with AI thumbnails isn't your personal laziness or even they way it looks. It's that AI art inherently steals th work of real human artists in order to produce the image you describe. It doesn't actually create anything itself. It's all pulled form a data pool of existing and fully uncredited art. I'm not going to unsubscribe over a thumbnail, and I love your videos, but I do think it's important to know the reason why so amny people might have been so disappointed.
@Sweetdude64
@Sweetdude64 2 ай бұрын
vocal minority who don't know what they're talking about
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy 3 ай бұрын
One of the main reasons why AI-generated Art is despised is because the AI, from what I heard, relies on all other artwork on the Internet (depending on the AI Art generator program) to craft something and in a way, "steals" other people's artworks or styles around the Internet to craft something "new". While I sometimes like messing around with AI programs like NightCafe on occasion for personal entertainment, I would avoid using any AI programs that relies on other people's creations for any other purposes (especially commercial-use and stuff). I personally don't hate AI-generated content (I find them cool in concept but in execution...) but I understand why it's hated and how unethical it can be. I wouldn't mind AI generators to a thing lasting in our futures but it depends on how they are coded, which can change my stance on AI later.
@YanDude1
@YanDude1 3 ай бұрын
AI good haters goofy
@brandaid6558
@brandaid6558 3 ай бұрын
You don't even understand what ai does when it generates images. How it affects the art community. The laziness it exudes. Do research and you should come to a clear decision on these things
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