This is a very good video

[@yennikarual]

a second gred glintstone video about online art critique has hit my recommended page

[@GredGlintstone]

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.

[@HateVG]

A very good video. I trust the title, no need for further explanation.

[@guybkt]

Agreed. 5.9/10

[@johnskelington]

This video is a masterpiece, but it's a shattered one.

[@loopine]

Oh damn I never saw the reviews for Alien Isolation and it is my favorite horror game of all time. Alien is possibly my favorite movie though so its a lot of fanservice, but it really does give me the most anxiety of any horror game. Gotta get my existential horror elsewhere though. Also, the robots will remember this psychological torture that you have committed and you will be among the first against the wall during the AI revolution.

[@GredGlintstone]

I, for one, welcome our new artificial overlords.

[@xiTzSethx]

Gred quickly becoming one of my favorite new content creators. How can this man keep putting out banger after banger video.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

The idea of objectivity in a review is an extension of the "facts don't care about your feelings" mindset where anything aside from absolute logic is wrong, which makes one incapable of understanding art.

[@GredGlintstone]

Yup. And feelings often don’t care about facts. We’re not always logical.

[@fishfriend1170]

"10/10 never watched it" -fish friend 2024

[@guyWSonicpicture]

That being said this video is OBJECTIVELY the best video on the internet, I give it a 10 popcorn buckets and 3 diet cokes out of 5 movie theaters

[@BBQcheese]

Omfg thank you! These absolute twats that run around the Internet saying things like objectively good or bad drive me crazy. It's like saying roundly square it just doesn't make sense. Good and bad are words that only have meaning relative to value which is subjective by definition and can never be anything else. The best you can do is find a reviewer who tends to have similar tastes to yourself and use their opinion to inform your own but objective reviews do not exist.

[@na8291]

maybe one day we can live in a post cinemasins/mauler world

[@BBQcheese]

​@@na8291 That would be nice but tbh I strongly believe that people such as Joseph Anderson are largely responsible for this type of thing as well...

[@Jables97]

Nope, you are objectively wrong. Now watch this 16-hour video by mauler in its entirety so you understand why you're wrong

[@Jables97]

But seriously, hopefully we move past the Anderson/Mauler era of game critique

[@chromegnj478]

This is clearly a very fantastic at least 9.2/10 video. Only the silliest of geese couldn't see the pure and awe inspiring quality. Screw you Gred Glintstone!! You very obviously and objectively are nitpicking and biased for your poor 9.0 score. I demand you change your score and video thumbnail to accommodate immediately! On a slightly more serious note, I really hope you're enjoying making these essay videos. I loved both the Silent Hill 2 and Video Game Critique videos you made and I am looking forward to more!

[@JoseViktor4099]

One of the hardest pill I have to swallow is that at the end of the day, opinions doesn't really have value, because everyone put their own value on subjective matter. Therefore being mad about other opinion is basically non-sensical. I spent about two whole years, almost weekly arguing with people on the internet because they didn't liked the game I did (Elden Ring), trying to convince why the reason they dislike something is because something that is fault to them, instead of accepting that I had fear of feeling invalidaded for these opinions. It was not until I Saw my past comments , and saw another one doing what I did, for other games, on a much bigger scale, that I started to question what I did. Being upset for other opinions and calling them out, not only makes you to loose an insane amount of time engaging into an argument, but makes you far less patient on real life. And it sounds quite stupid spelling out loud "Hey man, im mad because you dislike what I enjoy". Of course, the line on this trait is quite difuse, because if an opinion is based on misinformation or lack of it, fallacies and/or disregards, of course I think is valid to at least be puzzled about that opinion and explain why. Some will listen, other wont, but for the sake of your well being I just think the best is to rather try to change opinions, or simply stop there.

[@GredGlintstone]

Opinions do have value! They’re just not facts. Completely normal to get mad about other people’s opinions. I do often. I’ve made a couple videos about that. But can be a little futile when you’re not trying to change how someone feels but instead change how they felt.

[@BBQcheese]

I've been there but I guess for me personally is that I never really had an issue with people not liking what I like. I have an issue with people giving nonsensical reasons for it, spreading misinformation to justify their opinion. I feel totally the opposite, everyone's opinion has value... You don't need to lie to justify your opinion it's ok to just not like something. Worse yet are the people who insist that their opinion is a fact. That the game is objectively poorly made... Stuff like this drives me insane and I feel like poorly done criticism online is responsible for a lot of it.

[@JoseViktor4099]

@@BBQcheese Well, when someone claims that their opinion is objective, they are not at Risk to have disagreeiments, they are at Risk to be proven wrong. And once you are proven wrong, people starts to take you less seriously. I could also make us mad because It gives an illusion of knowledge. I seriously doubt that 90% of the ones claiming "this is poorly designed" genuely have any idea what Game design even is.

[@BBQcheese]

​@@JoseViktor4099 That's a really good point my friend

[@nickziegler1904]

"Water is wet whether or not we interpret it as such" funny thing about that...

[@GredGlintstone]

Fuuuuck. I had no idea this was a controversial topic. You learn something new everyday. I picked the most obviously objective thing I could think of and.. it’s not. I’ll see if I can edit it out tomorrow or I’ll leave it in as further proof that I’m a big dum dum. I dunno.

[@nickziegler1904]

@GredGlintstone in all fairness it's "controversial" on the level of questions like "is a hot dog a sandwich?"

[@JoseViktor4099]

Saying something completely objective is quite hard Indeed. The only thing I could say that is mostly objective is science, and that could have a lot of traits considering the concept of "theory" and "hipothesis". At least as far as I know, I would agree that 2 + 2 = 4 on natural numbers xD

[@BBQcheese]

​@@JoseViktor4099 I think of it this way, would X still be the case if conscious creatures did not exist? Light speed is still a constant whether or not anyone is around to measure it. It's objective regardless whether or not the numbers we assign to the measurement are themselves arbitrary. The electromagnetic spectrum objectively exists regardless whether or not we can prove that the portion of it we call blue is perceived the same by everyone. It also still exists even if no one is there to perceive it at all. Asking is dark souls still a good/bad have if no one were around to play it... The question doesn't even really make sense.

[@GredGlintstone]

7.5. Too much water :(

[@s-nooze]

My objective review of this video is that it is a video. Thank you.

[@Noremedy634]

As a Sonic fan, I didn't realize "objectively bad games" like Sonic 06 were bad until I started to use the internet more and more

[@EnderGraff1]

Right? Like going to blockbuster and randomly renting some ps2 game and having fun with it. If you had a smartphone and looked up reviews before you probably would’ve just skipped it. I feel like this mentality continues with “meta builds” in games where instead of experimenting with the mechanics, you look up the strats the community are using best. It’s some good and bad depending on how you interact with it.

[@PKDeviluke25]

I remember the original NIER got absolutely low review scores and had I listened to them i wouldn't have played one of the greatest games i have ever played in my life. NIER changed my belief of what video games can achieve by mixing narrative and gameplay and blending game genres.

[@straight-up479]

Being a fan of Rain World has been a fantastic exercise in all the points you make in this video. I learned really quickly that I shouldn’t put much weight on professional reviews and ratings, but I also had to learn that when people didn’t enjoy it, there’s nothing I could say or do to make them enjoy it the way I did. It broke my little heart because that game meant so much to me (and still does) but I needed to let that go cause I just couldn’t make someone feel the way I felt or experience my journey through the game.

[@shade0636]

"Quality judgements of art are subjective" sounds like such a given, yet in online discussions people generally don't behave as if it's true at all.

[@toddlucas]

another gredington glintstonious video has dropped how stupendous!

[@BillgeBro]

Can someone please leave a timestamp on when he gives a number on how good this video is? 13:00 Also the balls of this man

[@Eldaino999]

Your self awareness is literally the most refreshing thing. No one even comes close. I feel like a lot of Star Wars ‘fans’ would do well to watch this video. Watching that cycle repeat itself has been fascinating. EDIT: I made this comment about 3/4’s of the way through and then guy dropped the last Jedi in there. Brilliant. My own brothers were staunchly anti sequel trilogy and after engaging with those films in a more genuine way, they got value out of them and admitted they were being massively influenced by tons of videos online on why ‘the last Jedi is objectively bad’. Criticism does have influence over others and it’s so important to like..think for yourself. Who knows what you’re missing out on.

[@GredGlintstone]

I'm not really a Star Wars fanboy but I kinda liked The Last Jedi. Definitely my fave of the sequel trilogy and its not even close.

[@xaph3024]

objectively this is a good video yes

[@s4bugs]

A very good video, 1 cherry soda out of 2

[@vincentninja68]

Almost skipped this one but then I realized this is a Gred Glintstone video and therefore its probably really good. Your videos are becoming an event, I set aside time for these now.

[@QuantumTelephone]

Gred Glintstone and The Elephant Graveyard. These are really the only two channels I need on KZbin. Everything else is just filler on this damn website

[@GredGlintstone]

Dude.. Love The Elephant Graveyard. Happy to be mentioned in the same breath.

[@EnderGraff1]

Same, they’re so top notch.

[@bobbit_the_hobbit]

11:43 OH MY GOD RIGHT IN THE CHILDHOOD 🤩🤩🤩 The OG zoombinis lives rent free in my head to this day. My ringtone is the opening theme 😂

[@PatrickRollcow-ej5gz]

Great video, only one real issue - I think you can actually argue someone out of their likes and dislikes, and I think you make the argument perfectly for that in your video. People change, and they get influenced by experiences, age, knowledge, and, of course, people. I've quite literally had someone argue with my analysis of a film I loved, only to see that their analysis fit the text better than my own, and realise the plot was far less intelligent and more underwhelming than I thought, then growing to dislike the film on repeat watches. That person argued me out of my feelings on that film, because they showed me a different way of looking at it that, upon discussion, I felt was a more accurate way of seeing the film in question. Now, I could also have thought his analysis was nonsense bs and walked away mind unchanged thinking this guy was an arrogant prick for trying to impose his opinion on me, but I think it would be unfair of me to assume that because someone's argument didn't change my feelings on a piece of art that means their argument was in bad faith or "just trying to be right" for challenging my tastes. Aside from that nitpick, awesome vid and totally agreed with the overall premise that being a bellend to people for not experiencing the world exactly as you do is stupid, and assuming everyone does see the world in some unified way is equally stupid.

[@BadHatNZ]

I'm sure you meant it to be tongue-in-cheek but chatgpt isn't really a "non-human" point of view, if anything it's just another aggregator of human opinion. anyway, great stuff, very good video 👍

[@GredGlintstone]

Absolutely. Definitely not a reliable non-human perspective. But the only one I had access to help me out with an objective review. We make do with what we have.

[@iamjustkiwi]

First video of yours I've ever come across and it hit the nail on the head of one of my greatest frustrations as someone who watches a lot of reviews of things. Earned a sub for sure!

[@GredGlintstone]

Welcome aboard!

[@Alis_Games]

An objective critic is a strange creature. Sort of Shroedinger's Cat, I presume. He is totally objective and valid when you agree with his perspective and the final score. Otherwise, he's not a critic and his opinion doesn't matter. He basically ceases to exist for you if you don't like his score in your brand new favorite game. This is a sad but also hilarious truth about every single human perspective on everything that involves opinions. Oh, and you're absolutely right - this is incredible video, real masterpiece, 10/10

[@Zythryl]

Thank you Gred, for articulating these things in not just a concise way, but in a fun way as well. I hate that robot. Your choice of timing, for the clips that show its terrible fake face, was hilarious, and spot-on. A good match for chatgpt. I can think of a simple “counter-point” to the idea that critics can’t really speak for objectivity in art for art’s sake. Imagine the simple instance of a jump you have to make to cross a gap in a platforming game. Just some jump in Mario or whatever where you have to get to another platform over a bottomless pit. So, in most games, obstacles or no, the jump is do-able. It can be done. Imagine, now, an instance where the platforms of the jump were spaced wrong, but unintentionally, and without recognition of the mistake by the creator of the game. So, you play the game, it’s here and released, and you come across this jump that cannot be done. It just isn’t possible. By anyone. Now, for a “critic,” the difference between the do-able jump and the impossible one, is what is described when the critic deems the first jump “good”, and the second jump “bad.” It’s more like, they mean “healthy” (for the game, and for the player) and “not healthy”. The first game, with the mistake-less jump, is a good game, because it succeeds at being a game. The second one is a bad game, because it does not succeed at what it is meant to be as a simple platformer-comfortable, do-able, understandable, and so on. In this second game, with the bad jump, the creator of the game still tried to make a good platformer, but they made a mistake antithetical to every principle the rest of the platformer had built up and communicated. And the mistake cannot be conveyed as a mistake, until after the player interacts with it, and recognizes how it doesn’t line up. I feel like when a critic is trying to be who they are, when they try to achieve “objectivity” in their beliefs, they’re trying to point out what appears to be mistakes. Of course, this is a complex affair, because this leans into appraising the structure of the work-for the example of appraising a painting, as you bring up in the video, a thing like the “bad jump” is closer to pointing out that there’s some shoddily done brushwork, than pointing out failure in artistic merit or intent. It’s like saying, “I know what you were trying to do, but this choice you made here achieves the opposite.” Or something. It’s in these complicated weaves of intent and structure that these kind of critics are trying to operate in, and to appraise. Trying to identify similar things to a “bad jump” but in more complex and subtle things like intuitive telegraphs, dodge timings, what constitutes good v bad exploration in a world, and so on. Things that do have objective boundaries, structure, and traits. Maybe. I wouldn’t really know, this is just the first thing I thought of after viewing. I guess this idea I have of trying to appraise what’s healthy for a game’s vision, versus what isn’t, doesn’t have much to do here, because, yeah, what a critic feels is healthy and what isn’t, is subjective evaluation. But, if a critic comes across a bug, and there’s no way to know whether the bug is a bug or feature, and the critic only *feels* that the bug is a bug while every other player feels the bug is a feature, and then the developers find out about the bug and then fix it, because it wasn’t part of their intention, their bigger picture… then, the critic would have actually been right, objectively, while operating only on subjective feeling. But, then, this kind of thing can only happen in retrospect after the bug is recognized as an objective mistake. So. Maybe this just means critics seeking objectivity are just people who want to actually be bug testers. Mistake seekers. Under the guise, intentional or accidental, of art appraisal. That aside, I’m willing to bet, too, that some young people just can’t learn the difference before they have the ability to put their voices out there. They end up making subjective appraisals thinking they’re working in terms of objectivity, *because* they haven’t had anyone point out the difference, and that nothing had yet happened to them to suggest there are differences they aren’t aware of. You know? So, good thing this video exists, now. It’ll certainly help people. Good stuff Gred!

[@nickoliekeyov746]

I haven’t watched this yet but whenever I see 'This is a _____' in my head it’s immediately followed by 'All craftdwarfship is of the finest quality.'

[@wast01d]

your takes on art critique are so refreshing. a very good video indeed.

[@GoldieRinglets]

But am I beautiful?

[@GredGlintstone]

Always

[@KripsuPL]

Watching the chat GPT segment made me remember: "Do you know the definition of insanity?"... poor GPT, if we end up being slaughtered by machines I blame you! :D

[@sarahtonin3743]

Your perspective on this sort of thing is always so refreshing. I feel like the culture of the internet has devolved so much over the past few years, but who's to say if it really was better back in the day or if I was just younger and I'm yearning for old times? Either way, these days everything is all speed, no substance. Gotta get to the next take and the next pointless argument quickly, no time for nuance! It's a shame, because thoughtful discussion & disagreement about a piece of media has always been an experience I've really enjoyed when speaking with friends. This is a very good video.

[@timothyburger6715]

Another banger. On a scale of x to y it's definitely within the specified values.

[@enman009]

Glintstone rocked as hard as Brad Pitt at the end of Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. Banger of a video! The reason why I take music and book criticisms much more seriously than game criticisms is the fact that commentators often times articulate better the difference between the interpretation of the artpiece's intentions and their personal thoughts on the piece in question. This kinds of considerations feel almost nonexistent in game criticisms, where the most common practice is to say "X thing good, Y thing bad".

[@outkripper]

Dude I can’t wait for your channel to blow up. Your content is off the charts mate I’m looking forward to seeing you grow and get the recognition you deserve.

[@jasenmoment]

My recent favorite quote is "AI inadvertently proves the existence of the human soul, as it has shown me what art looks like without it." A lot of the art we love should not be judged objectively, as art is a subjective take on the world around you

[@AndrewCunninghamFan]

3:24 HELLO!!! IM A GIRL AND I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!! :3

[@RosieDax]

Hello fellow 7%

[@s4bugs]

Hello, i am the underminer from the incredibles

[@GredGlintstone]

Thanks! Pass on a good word to your fellow ladies!

[@grimreefer9324]

Ive always thought KZbin and the internet in general needed a real critique as to how people treat review scores. People will act like you just stepped on a puppy's head if you give some random classic or mainstream hit a 6 or 7 out of 10. Anyone who does that needs to unattach their identity and personality to the media they consume

[@cartergammage1540]

Do you think some criticisms are more or less subjective? I agree when judging art or media there is nothing objective, but I do feel like there is a scale to HOW subjective a certain criticism can be. For example criticising Melania's boss music because you didn't vibe with it vs praising elden ring having unlimited stamina outside of combat because it makes exploring the large open world much easier and less frustrating. My point is I think there is value in giving a review of a piece of media with the intent to give other people a better idea of whether it would be worth spending their money on it, and with that stated goal there is probably value in trying to be "objective". It feels like an impossible thing to do, being objective about something that's impossible to be objective about, but yet I still see value in the attempt.

[@GredGlintstone]

Good question and well put. I don’t believe in a scale but good critical thinking incorporates other perspectives in the formation of an opinion. That isn’t being more objective though. Not really. It’s just being aware of your own biases. It is having a more informed opinion. Not a factual analysis.

[@cartergammage1540]

@ Ya that makes sense. I guess it’s wrong to frame it on an “objective” scale. I just remember the feeble king elden ring dlc critique and one of my biggest problems was how it felt so personal and how so many criticisms wouldn’t be relevant to most players. I guess I think there’s a difference between how I feel about a game, and how I think most other people would feel about a game.

[@GredGlintstone]

Yeah in professional terms, it’s more helpful as a critic to frame your opinions with own perspective. Like I say with Fast and the Furious. If I didn’t mention that I’m not a car guy I might turn away someone that is by giving it a low score. That being said, there’s always going to be people who like what you don’t so you don’t want to get stuck playing both sides. There is a responsibility to have your audience in mind. But you still have to be honest about how you feel.

[@JehrkeFR]

The dig at 13:00 had me in stitches, but unfortunately I had a headache while watching this video which ruined my viewing experience. 7.5/10 It has a little something for everyone.

[@AvantHorizon]

This is a great video for people who identify as "gamer"

[@GredGlintstone]

Rise up.

[@SkittySol]

How does he keep on making HITS?! Honestly, after I found out that I much prefer having my own thoughts, often being insulted as being a hipster for not going with the flow of peoples majority opinion, but then the conversation steers from the object/media being discussed to a slapfight on whether it made me feel a certain way, which further derails into a slapfight. I think the problem is more than just some aggregate score as people refuse to acknowledge that the media they consume can be bad and still like it. Cringe culture and its consequences. I think Jeff the Killer is a better representation of old internet horror than ted the caver, not from some idea of quality, but rather how it instills the fear or makes one feel. Spec ops the line is a barometer, as is bioshock, on whether morals matter to you as a person. I think bioshock ultimately fails with its idea of morals being tied to a gameplay feature thus devaluing the choice. Spec ops the line forces you towards the invetiable and whilst being a brick to the face, it asks the exact same question just with different parameters. Though we live in an age, at least on the internet, of consumption, not quality, it's why people bemoan slop content yet continue to watch it. The ultimate failing isn't on one faultline its from a feeling: discomfort. No one wants to feel uncomfortable, no one wants to try something different. I read through Tom Clancys Jack Ryan series and you know what I thought? Book one was great, book 2 to 6 were terrible, but I continued to read those terrible books because I enjoy the way Clancy writes his scenes, I love disecting his choices and how he uses certain words and portrays characters. Though, that ultimately is... subjective, isn't it? Review score of 8.5/10 for this video ;)

[@VanEinzbern]

"You can't change how people felt at the moment of having an experience with a piece of art so there are no reason to debate them". Did not expect such a wild take after the Joseph Anderson video. Especially after saying that he didn't get the soulslike genre, which contradicts Joseph's own said "feelings".

[@GredGlintstone]

You’ve used quotation marks but I didn’t say that.

[@Seeker1998]

Great video! From my subjective interpretation this video was an objective masterpiece! I would love to watch you talk about Mauler and his style of criticism someday. I think you would bring a lot to the table.

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

"I love you, too, Greddy Baby," nearly got me to fall out of my chair. One of the things that I found interesting and really helpful back when I was becoming more involved with video games was when Game Informer magazine would do reviews for high profile games, they would typically have their Fighting Game or Racing Game person write the main review, and then someone else in the office who wasn't a big fan of that type of game would write a side-review. It was usually only a few sentences, but back when all I knew and played were jRPGs and Pokemon games it was nice to read what (at the time) felt like an 'unbiased' point of view, which more accurately should be called an 'outsider' point of view, because I know *now* that there's no such thing as unbiased. Some of those side-reviews got me to try games I ordinarily wouldn't have, even if some of them were busts. As a more modern example, I thoroughly enjoy watching Yahtzee Croshaw swear up and down about whatever new game is coming out, and it's fun to nod my head along and go "ah, yes, this game is trash" to get that nice dose of schadenfreude. But every now and then he'll cover a game closer to my sphere of enjoyment, and based almost exclusively on the things he says he hates about the game, I will know whether or not I will enjoy it. Plus, it's always good to make a few jokes about the things you like, if only to raise some self-awareness about it.

[@EnderGraff1]

A SUCCULENT CHINESE MEAL?! 6:14

[@dominickwilkins2492]

I always take reviews as reference not as gospel, because the last word on what I think of a movie or game is me and no one else

[@xemphanis6686]

Great video. I’ve thought about this a lot and there’s a couple things I think were missing. Video game reviews have long been based on film reviews, and I believe that is a mistake. The interactivity of games makes them much more difficult to analyze, especially as they’ve become more complex. When people watch a movie, they see the same movie. It may affect them differently, but it’s the same content. With video games, every experience is absolutely unique because we each play differently. There’s also a conversation to be had with how we discuss video games and produced art. Too frequently I don’t think we separate those things. To me, reviews and review scores are meant to rate a game as a product. Should I buy this thing? It’s not necessarily artistic criticism. I think that’s why so many people get upset by positive Call of Duty reviews, however, as a long time CoD player, it’s fun. Those games aren’t artful, but they successfully do what they’re meant to do as a product. It’s why I enjoy video essays when it comes to video game criticism. That allows someone to take a deeper dive into the content and look at it from an artistic perspective. Similarly to why movie reviews work better because there are established rules of that medium and what is considered good and bad when making a film. But again, great video.

[@dr.almimoni6856]

Glinstone, your channel is a gem, so please never stop making videos. I hope this comment helps with the algorithm

[@dragonfly4546]

This video would probably put Mauler in the hospital. Excellent work!

[@glisteninggames2981]

taught me something. thank you

[@joaquinflores2741]

As someone who isn't very fond of Ai, the chatgpt section was very creative and interesting, not objectively though, it's just my opinion

[@amilex5805]

Often times, when people asks the critics for objective reviews, i think what they mean is they want the critics to look factor in some other sides of the arguments, basically the critics should acknowledge some opposites opinions while still stating their assessments. But as we know now that critics couldnt give a shit about others opinions in their reviews, thats not what they are here for😂

[@KyletheScott]

One of my least favourite comments is "It's fine if you like this, but you have to agree that it's objectively bad". Come on guys, that doesn't even make any sense.

[@WealthyHomeless]

Ratatoskr made a video with a very similar point of view when he got push back on lords of the fallen review. Indeed this is a very good video that I clicked on.

[@Jables97]

Do you remember the name of the video? I'm a big fan of Rata and would be very interested in it

[@WealthyHomeless]

@@Jables97 seems like he removed the video for some reason which is strange as I thought that was a very good video. Now only reactions to the video exist, video name was "There are no Objective Reviews"

[@Jables97]

@WealthyHomeless Damn, well thanks for letting me know brother

[@Jables97]

@WealthyHomeless He also unfortunately took down 2 of his videos on video game difficulty which is unfortunate because I feel like they were the best videos on the topic

[@WealthyHomeless]

@@Jables97 he does stream on his second channel so I might ask him why he removed the video.

[@xvct2661]

Democracy manifest lol rip jack karlson

[@zachdanielsgaming]

12:30 "Critics claim to have an objective opinion - at least they say they are" is redundant. To "claim" and to "say" in this context means the same thing, but it sounds like you're trying to juxtapose those 2 things. Otherwise, a good video. Feels like a subject matter intended for teens and 20-somethings, though. Hopefully anyone over the age of 30 doesn't need to hear this!

[@AndrewThePoet]

This is indeed a very good video! :D

[@hollisblack]

“Huh. The title is ‘This is a Very Good Video’. Oh. It opens on Tim Heidecker and Neil Hamburger. Oh no. Am I being punished for calling the last video excellent? I should have followed my constant rule: Don’t be a KZbin commenter.” -Me, ten seconds in, before it became apparent that this is going to be about a very different thing.

[@thedarkderp2520]

"How many of you will click on an ign review" nope never happened never will happen

[@Mr.Starlight_gaming]

2:15 To be fair the ign dude was not playing it very well. He talked about the alien noticing you when he shouldn't have, while in the clip he shows, he has the tool on that reveals your location to it. Doesn't give the impression of somebody who knows much about the game that he is "professionally" reviewing.

[@duvetboa]

I hate KZbin. I spent 20 minutes typing up a positive and thoughtful comment and it just gets auto deleted with no notice and everything I had written is lost.

[@professorhuggins5418]

Another excellent one Greddy baby

[@ballaswave]

errrm ackshually this video sucks

[@Sinhesthysia]

3:28 "very pretentious" --proceeds to make a video that is more self reflective of not only your own channel, but yourself as a person, than any other channel I have ever seen.

[@SpikingDragon]

I definitely agree with you that there is no objectively good or objectively bad but I would like to add that you can be objective about artistic vision. Or objectively better or worse. Dark souls was intended to be a hard game, we know this from interviews. Its sequels were intended to be even harder. You might still disagree and found these games easy but there is obviously still an attempt to have the game be objectively harder even if they way Fromsoftware made it harder was a subjective take on difficulty you can still see that they tried to grow. That’s one of my big issues with always claiming subjectivity. Is my jar of piss a masterpiece? With subjectivity you can claim it is on the level of impact of starry night and I think that gives people the excuse to be lazy. Anyway sorry if that was a bit muddled I’m not great at sharing my thoughts like you are. Thanks for the video.

[@SpikingDragon]

Another quick thing you can make the argument that subjectively peppa pig is incredibly scary. That might be true for some people but you wouldn’t say that objectively. Objectively alien isolation is trying to be scary even if subjectively for some people it doesn’t work that well.

[@GredGlintstone]

Don’t sell yourself short! Your jar of piss may make someone out there very happy. Who knows 🤷‍♂️ I think you can say it is objectively a horror game but once we’re talking about If something is or isn’t scary then we’re not speaking factually.

[@videocrowsnest5251]

Feels like most of the lot who say they are giving objective opinions (an oxymoron) on something are just wanting to position themselves as the arbiters and authority figures of any given discussion. Aka - They want to be both the judge and the ones who write the rules of a conversation. And as the same crowd ofthen is intellectually dishonest about their real throughts, the recipe is just a buncha loud tire kickers taking over and pretending to be enlightened free thinking geniuses. The same reason (one who critiques is considered for some reason as a bit of an authority figure on something) is likely also why there is so much hostility towards professional critics. Because they get put in the same category as the tire kickers who usually build fanbased and have strong parasocial relationships to use in whichever way they want Vs For example some gaming journalist working a desk job. Ergo - it's seen as a stamp of power (over others) to get to rate something with a platform or for that review to be given a platform to stand on. Especially as for the tire kickers there is a lot of money on the line for rising above the rest as opposed to the employed critics who get paid a in comparison meager salary for their job. Yet it is competition never the less for getting to form their lucrative "opinion monopoly" with a custom rulebook. And none of this has a single thing to do with art itself. It's just art being used for alterior ends.. Or so it feels to me at least.

[@zabi_aka]

This is a uniquely objectively good video 👍👍👏

[@aenother]

I like the snappy clickbait title, it's a bit tongue-in-cheek but forms meaning by subject matter. I've thought about objective/subjective a good amount as well, mostly in a different space. If you're like me (I don't assume you are), I've spent some time on the internet getting into discussions that range from sentences to full-blown paragraphs upon paragraphs. So perhaps it's time or age but I've come to the conclusion that really-- it just doesn't fucking matter. The value I get from interpretation is more or less just perspective. The idea of objectivity can't be relative to an artistic medium because in my own haughty opinion-- art is human expression and there's no way to objectify that.

[@GredGlintstone]

Haha oh good. I’m definitely not someone that feels comfortable tooting my own horn. I cringed pretty hard recording that line in the video so I’m glad the gag is clear. I would never actually review my own work. That would be weird.

[@brendanmahon9428]

This might be your best video as your arguments are irrefutable

[@shades4385]

thanks fred flintstone for vido

[@ChrisParaschos]

i agree that art critique will never be as objective as the laws of physics and mathematics and it shouldn't be ,but i still when i hear a take like "Tears of the kingdom is $70 DLC to breath of the wild" i wonder for 1 minute if the person who makes this take is allien with intent to destroy humanity. Obviously i exaggerate but i don't take well opinions which disagree significantly with me about a x game especially if i played for a lot of hours the x game.

[@swan-cloud]

ratings get a bad rep for being considered "objective", but functionally, it's just a shorthand for my opinion, it's a tool for critics to use, simple as. it's fucked when a reviewer put the numbers at the end though, because what's the point of putting a shorthand after you already said everything you want to say?

[@doctorpebba]

be nice to chat gpt it's tryin :(

[@dfghdfggfdgfdDD]

You're in your 30's? I would have guessed you were 23 lol

[@WarrenValion]

I hate review scores. People can't even determine what each ranking of the score means. Some people say a 10/10 is a Masterpiece (and what does that even truly mean?), but other people say it means Perfect. So then, how can you summarize a review in a single numeric score? People love watching 'The Room', they find it very entertaining, but would they rate that movie highly because of that? And is giving that movie a high score from enjoyment accurate to the quality of the work or is giving it a low score accurate to the enjoyment that reviewer derived from the experience of viewing that work? The only real conclusion to make are that numbers are far too limiting a metric to accurately rate art. So in the end, you have to watch the whole review to understand the perspective of the reviewer regardless, making that number completely superfluous. Which is furthermore an issue when most people are interested in the number so immensely that they'll skip to the number or rating and not even watch the review. IGN gave the new Mario and Luigi a lower score than its contemporaries, with one of their biggest complaints being the performance, and everyone lost their minds despite most people viewing a game's poor performance as perfectly valid issue to criticize harshly. People wrote off Jedi Survivor for its performance issues despite fans claiming it was still a good game. --- Review scores, frankly, are too limiting to be anything of value besides their use in the game's marketing, and if people actually watched the reviews themselves, they would be more cognizant of what makes a review meaningful for themselves in the first place.

[@okinawa1312]

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[@MandosDestiny]

While the takes and such of the video are engaging and interesting in their analysis, the unfortunate overuse of resource-hungry, unsustainable Gen-AI in the second half for the sake of a rhetorical point is a disappointment. 5/10

[@rigel9228]

This reminds me of The second game critics video by Videogamedunkey where he talks about the gaming community and how inconsistent it is and how they only care about the number at the end of a ign video...

[@jg3875]

i dont know if "feat chat gpt" in your desc is a joke or not and i dont want to give you any of my watch time in the case that it is

[@PopeCharlesIV]

I haven't watch the video yet, but seeing "ChatGPT" in the description is an immediate turn-off. I admittedly do not know the context of that statement yet, but I would encourage you to not include any "AI" garbage in your videos. It's disappointing. Edit: please refrain from adding this sort of thing in the future. If you couldn't be bothered to write it, why should I be bothered to watch it?

[@GredGlintstone]

It's for a bit, definitely not something I would normally do or encourage. In fact, the whole point is to say how silly a non-human perspective in art criticism is. Hope you give it a shot and it doesn't put you off too much.

[@Eldaino999]

This is a great example of a subjectively bad review of a video you objectively didn’t watch.

[@PopeCharlesIV]

@@GredGlintstone I did give it a shot. Can't say I cared for it very much. Coming off of your videos on Silent Hill 2 and video game critique, both which I thought were excellently written and challenged me to think about my opinions on the matter, this was disappointing. Obviously I am not 100% of your audience. I'm not even 1% of your audience. If this is the sort of thing that you feel fits in your videos, then that is your prerogative. To me, this is not something I want to watch and certainly not something I expected from someone with a track record of quality writing.

[@GredGlintstone]

Sorry you feel that way then 🤷‍♂️ I think the reason I used it is clear and it definitely isn’t because I couldn’t be bothered to write.

[@beak3963]

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