This is a well rounded Start Location with INSANE potential - Civ 6 Babylon

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[@PhantomNull13]

I can't, for the life of me, understand how people could think Babylon is broken. This is just so utterly balanced.

[@darthgizmo56]

lol

[@cccgq]

Lol

[@KiwiandhisKite]

lol

[@2gtomkins]

It's dead easy with Babylon to unlock stuff from the far future, but you still have to pay those crushingly high future prices to actually get any of this stuff you unlock. There is a video out there of a play-through in which crossbowmen were unlocked on turn 23, but the player, not making any obvious avoidable mistakes, did not produce his first crossbowmen until turn 72, despite being at war -- actually because he was tied up in an early war and was forced to spam cheaper units to keep his head above water. He didn't have the luxury of waiting for higher priced crossbowmen to be produced. It takes a bit of skill to bring home in a timely manner all the marvelous things you can unlock early as Babylon, and I am eager to see how Potato brings off his particular plan. One thing he's got going for him here is that he hasn't been dragged into an early war.

[@PhantomNull13]

@@2gtomkins As a Babylon main, I 100% agree. With a crossbow rush, you generally want to focus gold so you can upgrade archers instead of producing them from scratch, but even that can be a problem if you don't get currency and commercial hubs up soon enough due to the archers having an inherent cost. The advantage that potato has is that the build path he's going (mining->apprenticeship->industrialization->flight) will actually help alleviate the production issues slightly, as apprenticeship and industrialization both add production to mines, so he isn't quite as hampered by the low production. The builder spam also means he should be able to improve every possible mine, adding to overall production. As long as there's at least two cities with a few hills nearby, combined with coal/iron and industrial zones, he should be able to manage industrial era production relatively easily.

[@bochaozhao1449]

I just played Babylon today. I took the tall approach over your wide approach. I basically rushed industrial zone, then oracle, Pingala with the culture and double GPP promotion, 2nd city with industrial zone and workshop. In doing so, I got the first great engineer that give wonder production and got a super early Ruhr valley. I then went on a killing spree with bombard and musketman. Man it feels good when everything is going your way in a game.

[@Benjmensch]

i love playing tall. i think scottish robert is one of the best civs to play tall

[@nehemiasgroppi4397]

Plane rush with Babylon is just dumb strong

[@weirdobeardos8471]

He he Babylon go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@wallacegrommet5817]

Gandhi: Wh.. what are you doing with those troops Hammurabi: It's just for a science boost

[@rocker3375]

Gandhi: * Hates Hammurabi for his barbaric code of law* Hammurabi:* Goes to space while everyone is still using chariots

[@aidanwright3037]

"Five techs away from Biosphere" Civ 6 is a perfectly balanced game...

[@Lucas17031]

*Spiffing brit intensifies*

[@DanteLee88]

Can I just say, I’m loving this setup of watching a livestream or two of a playthrough for the background laughs and entertainment, then seeing it again edited and cleaned up to really ingest the lessons being taught. Thank you for everything Potato, finally playing on Immortal straight from Prince thanks to your videos.

[@Bubba-zu6yr]

Genius! Working backward is the key (that I would have never thought of). Once again, thank you sir.👍

[@EMETRL]

babylon is my absolute favorite civ in the game. In civ 5, I wasn't much of a beeline player but beelining was a playstyle that I always wanted to have. Babylon allows me to have that playstyle

[@RageDG391]

I was trying the same strategy the other day and got flight at ~110 turn, got bombers at 125 turn, and basically killed everyone before 160 turn. Had a smooth transition between bombard rush to bomber rush

[@AeonQuasar]

22:35 You unique unit count as a scout resulting in a friendly meeting. If you meet them with a warrior you don't get the boost.

[@the_hate_inside1085]

I thought the plan was to get +1 builders in the capital, and then use them to shop out settlers with Magnus. Next second you are using your builders to shop out builders instead.

[@Nukacola38]

Love going back to watch the old series. They do hold up well - this was also such a pivotal strategies for me to learn (biosphere tourism) to get several cultural victories

[@cylee4735]

A very fun build for Babylon is to rush Ruhr to unlock Flight and gigabusted mines. Build 3 mines and one more city to unlock industrial zone. Then build another workshop for industrialisation. Then build a factory and Ruhr. From there, you can either build anything in one turn or start building plane units

[@markfarmer7534]

Sometimes, I think it's better not to settle on a hill tile, as having a city center on the tile removes your ability to build a mine on it. Sure, you get 1 extra production early, but you lose out on 2 production, once 3 mines are built, and even more later on.

[@thomaswiegele9802]

Restarted playing CIV 6 with the Anthology steam sales. Got myself lost watching some of your videos (older and newer). And wanted to mention how better your videos became over a 1-2 year period. The teaching part was always there but the editing and entertainment commentary greatly improved. On a side note, you really had terrible luck with those barbs 😂

[@craigcarey9789]

What a fun way to start. I have not played Babylon before, and now they will be my next game.

[@edwardcollins8102]

"I only have to build 2 industrial zones and A workshop." Unless you get James Watt (with Babylon's ability of the first time you construct an unique district, you don't even need Mausoleum of Halicarnassus).

[@jhonhenderson5745]

I was sick and as soon as I saw his plan I frogot about the sickness and went into a trance with how broken this is!

[@MrSpeakerCone]

Just played my first game as Babylon and it's such a breath of fresh air after hundreds of hours of play. Really gets me thinking and strategising differently. In my game I spawned right near a natural wonder, so I rushed a religion and chose religious settlements and all of the culture upgrades, which gave me some really good synergy with Magnus locust strats. It didn't even occur to me that I could rush late-game wonders this way though!

[@sachinpatel5447]

I enjoy teacher potato. 'Alright class who know why I need a holy site in this game?' 😂😂

[@JohnnoBogan]

And here was me thinking he was going to drop into some George Michael reference!

[@TheGeneralDisarray]

As a newbie deity player, I recently did this. Built some cities, got the three archers to get xbows. Used the xbows to defend against the three civs that dog piled me. Got early industrial zones, then the ruhr valley, killed a neighbour. Could have gone for domination but remembered this series, went straight for biosphere, wind and solar farms, and spammed mh way to a tourism victory somewhere in the 1300s. Was so much fun!

[@zedantXiang]

How broken is BABYLON? turn one you're 5 techs away from byosphere.

[@nathanhyatt5869]

This is probably the run that’s my favorite to try! Just started playing deity so still not perfectly executing as good as I know I can. It’s really strong accompanied with the owls of Minerva. Generating the culture needed through commercial hubs plus stacking as many policy slots as possible with Minerva plus wonders like Big Ben and the forbidden city is my favorite way to play this. Locust mode a must though!

[@nikitashaitan9984]

Omg tried this strategy and had my first sub150 victory with it. I built Valley at turn 90 and my only struggle was to get enough great people to built Biosphere in a new found city. And i actually failed to build that cause i won 1 turn before completing it

[@lizhutchinson6978]

Ooh this sounds like a brain exercise playing Hammurabi. Maybe it would make me better at boosting my techs and remembering all the boosts outside of the main ones. It would be really crazy in tech shuffle mode

[@TheJupiter786]

Just realised I play every Civ "Locust". That explains why I love playing England, Rome, Spain, Ethiopia, Portugal, the Dutch, etc.

[@PheonixHunter]

I had a similar game to this, but I rushed battleships om an archipelago map and killed everyone

[@higharchbishopofteatasting6217]

Hell yeah I love these videos so much. And Babylon is one of my fav civs to watch.

[@callumjc1994]

As somebody who was breaking up the livestream VOD into bitesize pieces, goddammit Pots. How dare you identify winning content

[@Paper_Sunset]

21:16 sounded like my college professor talking to the class about math. Lol

[@SkyenNovaA]

Yay, another video with Babylon

[@Und3adLuKaNg]

Elsuncips here, great video potato! Your vid’s have helped BIG TIME

[@DrHeinzDoofenshmirtz]

Yeah finally, a new series!

[@TeamWolfmountain]

The entire civ is insane this guy is absolutely bonkers and no fun against you

[@kildeer1897]

This is truly one of the civilizations of all time

[@gamermario777]

Hello Potato, thanks to your awesome videos I just managed to win my first deity game as Babylon. Subscribed :) Hope you will play babylon again sometime.

[@Kholdaimon]

I did this and had the Ruhr Valley on turn 110 (on the difficulty one above Deity, Emperor?). I was building solar farms and wind farms before others had coal power plants... It was kinda silly really... :D

[@2gtomkins]

I must have slipped into one of Hammurabi's time warps, because I could swear that this same video was up a week or two ago. I didn't watch past the first few minutes, so maybe I missed the explanation, but the part I watched matched my memory of the week-ago video exactly. Maybe I have the ability to see into the future. I'm going to stop watching this site and start watching sites where I might see sports games a week or two early that I can make big bucks betting on.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

it was a livestream

[@2gtomkins]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey Thanks. I suspected that there was a rational explanation. I don't generally look at livestreams, and only did so in this case because it was Babylon.

[@morgananderson2246]

Love the intro fam

[@pbbdmedia]

As yessss. Potato rips off a strong start. Like & Subscribe. Keep the addiction monetized.

[@strikingdummy8001]

When potato pronounced the name of the unique unit my brain froze for one second. “That’s not a unique unit it’s not in the unique unit tier list”

[@phil9156]

challenge for potato mcwhiskey: play as a religious babylon but you play as the blob where you only go after city-states and free cities??

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

I love babylon it's my number one followed by gaul and Gran colombia

[@arcamean785]

When I first got civ 6 before any expansions I ran into TONES of barbs on every game and it really put me off for a long time.

[@C4Vendetta]

Nice vid! Btw i think ur clipping ur mic

[@Morbis]

The audio was clippy at the start, it should get better a little bit in.

[@pronymus806]

Amazing video keep it up👍

[@ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian]

Is it possible to mine Coal and Oil in the Ancient era with this civ? Build 3 mines, build 2 workshops, make a water mill, make a lumber mill, and build two shipyards. That seems like a lot but you might be able to at least get coal by the classical era.

[@deveus1]

Am I hallucinating? Did I already watch this?

[@michaelmcdaniel4351]

literally same. i came here looking for this comment, and was so surprised no one else was saying anything.

[@michaelmcdaniel4351]

i THINK he streamed this on youtube, and this must be the video that came from it. we must have watched the stream, lol.

[@deveus1]

@@michaelmcdaniel4351 yeah MAYBE that's what it is. Gosh, I can't remember watching this on stream, but it's been a long week lol

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

it was a livestream, this is the edited video

[@deveus1]

​@@PotatoMcWhiskey oh man this is so embarrassing. I swear it was a long week.

[@rycolligan]

Does Babylon's science yield penalty apply to pillage yields? Because that seems like a really good way to compensate for their yield nerf while still playing the eureka game.

[@tiduswalker]

It does not! I've been playing Babylon exclusively since they came out, and i think wukong is one of the better heroes for Babylon because of that. To catch up on techs that don't have an easy boost prereq, you can manually research and pillage for the science with wukong.

[@rycolligan]

@@tiduswalker Thanks for the info!

[@gunzakimbo]

Another thing that makes them so broken is on top of all the stuff you said AND you can just auto generate 10 pop cities just with fresh water and their Palgum! Babylon and Gaul are disgusting just cause your normal game plan leads to like 50 production cities like 100 turns into the game!

[@maestroclassico5801]

I played as Babylon.....My God....EVERY Eureka Boost IS research. Right after Archery...field 3 Archers then Bam you get MACHINERY you can immediately upgrade them to Crossbowmen. I need to study the tech tree like Potato here has.

[@lilacrimosa]

"This is too many barbs" I run into shit like this times three in almost all my games.. the camps will just spit out like 6 units back to back, spearmen, horse archers, horsemen, and god forbid they're coastal and have like 3 galleys and 2 quadriremes coming at me. Always found it a little surprising how most of your games the barb camps weren't such a threat. I've spent like 100 turns before just trying to defend from and clear out barb camps.

[@Saxxybeast]

I feel so dumb not realizing that aqueducts provide adjacency for industrial zones. I ignore them basically every game because I'm like "I'm already on a river/coast, I don't need fresh water" lol

[@Saxxybeast]

@@blaubeer8039 I've been playing with gathering storm and all of the frontier pass content. Just never read enough of the tool tip I guess

[@skipperxiv9401]

"An unfun number of barbs" So a nonzero number.

[@aliquewilliams3080]

Thank you for not placing your face in the mini-map. It is extremely odd that you thought the mini-map was not important.

[@suhmajstor]

I can't for the life of me think of a better nickname than Potato McWhiskey. Only thing that sounds better than that is Batman.

[@LAZERAK47V2]

"This is too many barbs." Yeah, it's like their spawns are bugged or something and never got fixed, even after the Barbarian Clans mode. Don't get me wrong, I love this game, but they REALLY dropped the ball on barbs. Their player-prioritizing coding and bugged spawn rates makes playing with them incredibly annoying. Here's how it's supposed to work: For spawn rates, a barb camp is supposed to spawn a small raiding party, usually consisting of 3 units (two Melee/Cavalry and a Ranged) to attack the city they scouted. If they manage to loiter and pillage uncontested, they spawn siege units. HOWEVER: Barb camps will also naturally spawn new units the longer their camps are left alone. This is tied to them gaining confidence, allowing for more open maneuvers. After all, the lack of law enforcement promotes criminal behaviour. Meanwhile, attacking the Scout or Defender will increase the amount of time before they produce another unit, representing them being cowed by the fact that an active military force will take action against them. Barbarians are, at their heart, cowards. Preying on undefended and weak lands. But that coding is currently bugged. Instead, barb camps just accelerate when pressured. They have no Production queue like players do, often spawning units immediately. This can result in your Warrior sent to destroy the camp being surrounded by Barb warriors (or worse, Barb Horsemen/Horse Archers). This is also why Naval Barb camps are such a huge pain in the ass to deal with, 3 turns, 3 Quadriremes. Player prioritization is also problem, because it renders the Incite and Bribe mechanics totally worthless. Barbs will still NOT attack AI civs if they have sight on your empire, instead taking your money and raiding your lands. Bribing them keeps them out of your territory, but they'll still make every effort to pillage your Trade Routes and steal your civilian units. Finally, the kicker with player prioritization: Barbarians can and will mount raids on AI players, but the moment your territory is identified, they abandon their attacks (even if the AI frontier city was 1 turn away from being razed) and immediately make their way to your lands. This is MOST evident with the Recruit Partizans mission, which even happened in one of Potato's recent vids. An AI performed the mission against another AI and the barbs that spawned ran over to Potato's land and pillaged his stuff.

[@la7127]

Wouldn't double slinger be better that the unique unit ?

[@jamesdinius7769]

Slinger is slow and squishy. Think of the unique as a beefy scout.

[@trogdog1267]

@@jamesdinius7769 Beefy scouts who chase the cavalry instead of being chased.

[@thegreatarcanist890]

You want faith to buy the naturalist to get radio

[@davidmills1520]

5 mines and the 20% boost from Ruhr Valley combine for an INSANE 1 more production boost! (heh heh)

[@matthewmcneany]

I hear chopping, but I don't hear digging.

[@citrus1225]

That’s about how many barbs I get EVERY 20 MINUTES… part of the reason I barely play is cause I get a barbarian superpower hiding in the tundra EVERY GAME

[@SylkaChan]

What mod gives you the colored newspaper pictures? 📰🖼

[@RS-uz4zm]

Hello, which tools and software do you use to do this kind of videos ?

[@ComradeKaine]

I use Filmora and obs Studio

[@jefferymendenhall8297]

I thought this was posted a few weeks ago?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

this is the edited version for posterity

[@jefferymendenhall8297]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey After I watched a little, I realized that there was more detailed explanations :)

[@lolwhatidk]

hey alright thanks

[@jyutzler]

Babylon is so OP that I will only play them in quick speed. It's just stupid playing them in standard speed.

[@watsonsd1]

You need faith because you need someone to hold you, but you're waiting for something more?

[@mario3082]

Day 6 of asking Potato to play the Zulu

[@miro007ist]

do you ever lose a game of civ?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

sometimes

[@JosephLachh]

So basically if you want to be forced to learn the tech tree, choose Babylon.

[@alpal4245]

Am I the only one curious to wonder what potato would be like playing civ drunk?

[@felixshaw7859]

is it just me or the audio is very saturated in this video?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

probably

[@quixotic9482]

Alright welp I just bought Babylon

[@jonathang4963]

I am getting some serious dejvu, is this from the stream?

[@doublecrossedswine112]

that is a normal amount of barbs in my games

[@DrownedInExile]

Locust mode? Is this Civ 6, or Gears of War? :)

[@Joao.MC33]

Did he chopped a stone mine? Can you do that? I've been playing this game for years.. I didn't knew you could do that.

[@ComradeKaine]

you can “chop” any bonus resource, like stone, copper, crab

[@tejas7846]

How is this civ legal, how m i only just learning about it

[@noahpraver9521]

So cool

[@eliasrusaas1467]

Does anybody have an idea of how to fix a small UI?

[@daneslayton8143]

Is this the same civ game from your stream the other day

[@dominicdrummond4550]

can you show mod author next time you show the mod?

[@Morbis]

I'll try and remember to snap the mod author when I fling in mod screenshots in the future. It won't be in the next two episodes, but it's something I'll keep in mind.

[@zacharyoverstreet7371]

I get that many barbs every game

[@DeadSnail1204]

Too many barb's haha exactly how bad barb's are everything I go diety besides they usual are more advanced units aswell as so many

[@dannap8831]

damn this sped up is just hard to listen to. pls don't speed it up bro 🙏🙏🙏 im watching on 0.75 speed ha

[@yazidefirenze]

s p u d

[@ritenger87]

whats 9 plsu 10