This Is Actually An Unfair Advantage In Sim Racing (I'm Using It!!)

[@rankisdumb214]

I noticed the coasting by the top players a while back. I still struggle to do it but maybe this will help. I just did 5 laps at Zand. While the temp was a tad high at 26-33c my time wasn't bad. Around 1:35 and started with 40 liters of fuel. It was interesting to see how much later I brake than James and how much earlier I get on the throttle vs coasting. We are only a few tens apart in the first 2 sectors but he's a good 1.5 seconds faster in the 3rd sector. I've always struggled with those two turns after the two mid speed turns! The hard right and left before the little str8 that leads to the chicane. James takes those two turns much faster then I do and goes much wider. This app will definitely be fun to explore. Seeing the difference in steering angle also helps as he's opening his steering well before I am due to getting better rotation

[@Derek_Lark]

Nice! I like how you identify the corner entry as an area that is costing you time and how you can improve. The track view and colour shadings are very welcome.

[@easybreeze1]

Comparing a front engine against a mid engine is a little silly as it's harder to rotate, James is using throttle, coasting and braking to distribute the weight around differently than you will in the 296 so it's not wise to copy completely his inputs. Also is the temp, weather and track condition the same? As others have said, track titan and popometer has this but i agree i like the birds eye view in real-time. Personally I wouldn't pay subscription for this though... it's a game at the end of the day, just watch track guides and practice, that's what makes it fun and rewarding.

[@A-Borat]

Very cool tool. Being able to visualize the data is super-helpful.

[@BrKnOblivion]

The only thing I see here is fancy graphics on an inferior detail level. If you want direct information on your driving, you tent to over turn at mid corner creating understeer when you get on the loud pedal you haven't gotten out of the steering enough and that's giving you the twitch causing you to lift and counter steer on corner exit. It's simple driving dynamics. End of the day having the data fancy or not won't fix your line or inputs any better.

[@MaxfromPine87]

also, comparing telemetry from different cars is a bit pointless, different cars will have different behaviours, coasting suits some cars more than others…so that doesn’t mean that is what you doing wrong Possibly even setup changes will affect telemetry 😅

[@tomjxn]

The game changer here is the comparison as you showed. This is great. I think it's also important to note that the coasting and braking does differ between cars given the weight transfer for mid/front engined cars, but either way it's still an awesome tool by the looks of it.

[@bigprenta4264]

this is good for simracing these kind of softwares, i know theres quite a few out there but its good because it makes it more accesible & easier for anyone starting on proper simulators and give new starters an idea what it takes to get close to top esports drivers. ultimately bring more interest into simracing. FYI kireth i think you need to sort out your steering ratio cause i think it looks out of sync 800 steering ratio for the ferrari 296 gt3 this will help improve laptime as well

[@daman3405]

The best I seen so far. Im going to try it right now . Thanks Mate

[@Ryzza5]

Copying 'alien' telemetry will of course require you to copy their car setup.

[@iRiskitall]

to an extent you are right. but the only variable there is driving style. Just because someone is fast in a set up doesnt mean the set up is a good one. Same way if someone is slow, doesnt mean set up is bad. set ups should be tailored to your style but you should also make sure your driving the car properly. (is the under/oversteer from your inputs/line/set up) figuring that out in return will improve your driving OVERALL

[@MaxfromPine87]

Track Titan does exactly that, has been doing for a while now

[@MR_GT78]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@Inside-wheel]

I explain how to use the natural deceleration on brands hatch and how crucial it is, James didn’t scrub as much speed under braking allowing him more comer speed and a later throttle! Looks like great software ,

[@Cloxxki]

On the map it would be helpful to see how much throttle there. Green line thickness or color intensity or a combination to get the most from it without smuding the other car's trace.

[@Kireth]

Nice idea!

[@Cloxxki]

@@Kireth Also think about something that indicates how you're working the tyres. I know it's different for one lap or a whole stint, but when driving against James I'd want to know how he's managing his tyres in each situation, and where my tyres are relatively hot or relatively cold to his. If he'd record a whole stint and we'd get to use the same setup and everything, it would be helpful to have his commentary on tyre management. What he's doing pre-emptively and reactively. A tyre feeling slippy or showing as heating up, what does he do, and does the telemetry show that it's working? During a who stint, ideally James' effort would reset all the time so we are the ideal "copying" distance. Ideally to be set to various following distances. Voice commands "follow closer"/"follow further". Can the software tell to brake 5 meters sooner than the previous lap and more powerfully for instance and then coast a lot? Every straight you could mentally prepare for the next turn or sequence.

[@danbeswick9737]

thank you!

[@Kireth]

No problem!

[@danbeswick9737]

@@Kireth yeah i signed straight up that driving line feature looks amazing

[@shawndixon4536]

Does this run in the background and get reviewed after, or does it run concurrent on anither monitor while racing? I ask because I eliminated my 4th monitor for a VR headset, but I have been looking into getting an inexpensive mini monitor for dashboards (or for something like this, if need be).

[@MrKram56]

Awesome tool but the price is way too high. LMU season pass cost */-50€ a year and the entry level tool is double that. Just doesn't make sense to me.

[@RACEMAKECOM]

The open beta is free right now, and even when we move to version 1.0, the basic features will always remain free. Plus, we’re planning to offer much more than just motion telemetry.

[@alexkayracing]

Does this work with any sim? Le Mans Ultimate specifically

[@Freddy_Merckx]

Isn‘t Popometer doing the same already?

[@jaysysumakaRatMaster3]

In all fairness if you've done so much already at this circuit and you're setting a 1.26 then telemetry isn't going to help. You need more practice, there's so much wrong with these first 2 laps you don't need telemetry to tell you why you're so slow.

[@lowfastracing]

Just like the guys who don't practice, just buy some paid setups, and they think that will help. :D

[@Mohawk_Racing]

But is it not useful to know the areas to work on when practicing? I find it does, sometimes I'm only losing out in one area of a track but without a comparison, I can struggle to identify where the time is lost. Rings true irl too, I run motec and the data is great for analysing and working out where to make improvements

[@Leron_T]

Good to see you leave the chase cam behind

[@WolfteamFreakable]

This reminds me a lot of what popometer has to offer since a few years

[@PaulGSimGolfandRacing]

How is this any different from other apps out there already such as Track Titan ? I’m not seeing much of a difference tbh

[@darklightning2k]

I think you should state this is only for ACC as it stands!

[@Kireth]

Yep currently only ACC!

[@PatricAguirre]

I’m guessing this is useless for us console peasants?

[@RACEMAKECOM]

Hey, consoles are one of the next steps :)

[@PatricAguirre]

@@RACEMAKECOM this is great news for us … definitely looking forward to this

[@luizfmartins4182]

​@@RACEMAKECOMdude, you made my day now 😊

[@mich5528]

…console peasants… I’ld like to think that us PC devotes will become or even are inclusive towards console players. With all these cross play games now, we allready play together. And consoles are in fact on the same hardware now, i believe AMD chips, a console is basically a very efficient game PC, at an unbeatable price…

[@LEmir_de_Passy]

I miss the console days when everyone was simple and worked.

[@Cit9y]

Is this just for PC? I hope racers make their data available on YT if it’s only PC.

[@RACEMAKECOM]

Hey, the open beta is currently available only for PC, but we are planning to support consoles in the future. After that, the last (and definitely longest) step will be real cars!

[@Cit9y]

@@RACEMAKECOM excellent news that your planning on supporting consoles 👍

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

Sweet another free “for now” telemetry setup, just enough to get us hooked im sure, too bad I’m color blind.

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re currently in open beta, which is completely free, and even when we move to version 1.0, there will always be a basic version available for free.

[@zackkragel]

This is only useful if you know how to change what you’re doing. For someone new this is not “free speed” this is stress and added bs making it not fun for them.

[@playzone8749]

Hi there is it possible that my fanatec steering wheel won't work in the future please?

[@pequeno77]

Compatible only with ACC?

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re starting with ACC, but more simulators are coming soon! :)

[@cheeseburger3209]

Does it work with GT7?

[@laurentespert1205]

Does it work with Le Mans Ultimate or just with ACC ?

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re starting with ACC, but more simulators are coming soon! :)

[@edrickreyes-melendez4215]

Is this just for ACC?

[@alexanderredhead6847]

I also want to know this

[@edrickreyes-melendez4215]

@@alexanderredhead6847 I read their recent patch notes and it says ACC only for now with plans to add other sims later

[@RACEMAKECOM]

Yes, we’re starting with ACC, and other simulators will be added later. However, right now, we’re still fine-tuning the open beta.

[@m1northreat]

So much for using it. I don’t tend to play acc. Let me know when it supports iracing

[@JayKBra]

This reminds me of when Larry David got caught stealing golf lessons… 😂😂😂

[@derodge]

This is ridiculous!! I had no idea that these fast drivers did any coasting. I assume they were either on the throttle or on the break at all times.

[@RACEMAKECOM]

Yes, in modern circuit cars, you can often coast. However, this can be different for cars with a drivetrain other than rear-wheel drive.

[@jernejsim]

ACC physics feature

[@darklightning2k]

Literally every beginner video ive watched says that if you coast youre losing time. You should be either braking, including trail braking, or on the accelerator. Time to unlearn bad habits!

[@dubby_ow]

healthy amount of understeer is fast also, dont need throttle nor brakes if you have enough rotation and youre already on the limit of grip, it's usually when all 4 wheel slide at once (neutral steering), so you just make small corrections for balance to stay at the optimum slip angle

[@TheDoK666]

Didn't record any drives...

[@LEmir_de_Passy]

Great product but the app doesn't even say which games are supported

[@Kireth]

I think it's ACC right now with more in the pipeline

[@2Sloo]

@@Kireth Do you know if AC is supported?

[@MBimmer]

Free limited time beta but then 100 $ a year.

[@kieranjames9679]

Can this be used in iracing?

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re starting with ACC, but more simulators are coming soon! :)

[@kieranjames9679]

@RACEMAKECOM I'll look forward to trying this out once it releases for iracing, appreciate you letting me and others know

[@kevwburke]

is this ACC ONLY ?

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re starting with ACC, but more simulators are coming soon! :)

[@andyphillips3]

its only for ACC atm doesn't work with iracing .

[@RACEMAKECOM]

We’re starting with ACC, but more simulators are coming soon! :)

[@DJeb86]

James baldwin is fast ?! 😅

[@Kireth]

The fastest!

[@Alterman_Racing]

I dont see whats new in this app? It doas the same ore even less then other telemetry apps. And comparing two different cars makes no sense at all. I can see it as a helpful tool for team mates to compare to each other, but to compare myself to anyone else on different setup or even car makes my slower, because im Not on track practicing.

[@MR_GT78]

This works for most of us that are part of GT7 and ACC communities. A lot of my SIR racing friends will play ACC.

[@DRT_simracing]

iRacing? :(

[@Andybarney555]

With sim racing... you can analyse all you like... either have way that sim needs be driven to be fast or you dont... either know all hacks and can drive with em in that sim be it extreme camber. Faster steering etc.. in acc alot hacks. You can put hours in to muscle memory that and have the skills then great. I drive like its real. And im still top 50 in acc on xbox. Non of this helps. Learn to drive

[@Jojo44_Racing]

Ahhhh no! I hate stuff like this! This is like cheating in my eyes! Driving needs to be natural! The fast guys don’t actually think about stuff like this while driving! It’s mostly feeling!

[@emteehed]

none of the telemetry data gathering and analysis matters if you actively choose not to adjust the way you drive. as displayed in your previous video you and one other against a 'Pro'. In that video it's plain as day you use too much steering angle to rotate the car compared to the 'Pro' and he still gets the car rotated and through the turns faster. if you don't take action to change your driving... then what's the point of this video... sure... you're using the software as stated in the title of the video, BUT it's definitely not to make yourself faster in the sim... you're still under the delusion the steering wheel 'rotates' the car. you turn the steering wheel too much and understeer through turns scrubbing tires. the steering wheel rotates the tires. The tires DEFLECT the forward kinetic energy of the car. it's the KINETIC ENERGY of the vehicle that rotates the car. NOT YOU NOR THE STEERING WHEEL. if you park the car and turn the steering wheel the car does not rotate. you're borrowing kinetic energy from forward motion and applying it to yaw rotation. which is why driving straight is faster than slaloming...

[@PhpGtr]

I couldn't possibly think of a worse possible take on this video. "...what's the point of this video" Dude, just make your own channel. The point of this video is not for him to flex how much faster he is making himself. The point of this video is to tell us about this app. That's it. Move on bro.

[@A-Borat]

So anyway, I started blasting...

[@derodge]

​@@PhpGtr yeah that dude completely missed the point with the whole video.

[@emteehed]

@@PhpGtr you do realize i did mention this is also partly in series with his other video... the app is useless if he doesn't actually do something about his driving... the same problem he was having driving against the 'Pro' as well as his 3rd party. Previous video and now this video and he has all the evidence from both videos AND STILL doesn't want to adjust his driving problems.... so whats the point?

[@Jojo44_Racing]

You said it perfectly!

[@averageenjoyer1930]

Beehta 😂

[@Cobra206]

No fun, no adventure, no joy. Just chase the result. No sense.

[@PhpGtr]

You're right. The only way to drive sims is to turn off all HUD and even all timing devices. No fun in improving - "chasing the result", after all. Jeez.

[@A-Borat]

@@PhpGtr Trying to drive faster than your previous lap?? Madness!!!! The only way to play is to do donuts at the starting line and there is no debate about that.

[@RACEMAKECOM]

⁠@@A-Borat We can visualize donuts and also drifts pretty nicely too! 😄